Re: New web newsreader - requesting participation

2011-02-03 Thread Kagamin
Trass3r Wrote:

  That one has horrible bugs. You'll click on a topic, then try to read
  a reply, and it shoots you to some random topic 4+ years ago. Happens
  all the time. I only use it to post to NG since using Gmail directly
  doesn't show up my own posts (this is a known gmail bug).
 
 Didn't occur to me so far.

After the cookie timeout it resets newsgroup to digitalmars.D keeping post ids 
which are group-specific. As .D has much more posts than other groups, getting 
a post with small id from it results in a very old post.


Re: New web newsreader - requesting participation

2011-02-03 Thread Eric Poggel

On 1/31/2011 5:28 PM, Walter Bright wrote:

Adam Ruppe wrote:

In the other newsgroup, I've been talking about a little
web news program I've been writing as a spinoff of the
potential new homepage idea.


That is great news. I've been wanting to do one for years! I haven't
looked much at yours yet, but here's my ideas anyway :-)

1. Can use web interface or nntp interface
2. web interface looks sort of like reddit, i.e. all posts on a thread
3. users can post anonymously
4. web interfaces supports logins - logged in users can vote up or down
on posts
5. web interface can mark posts as read or unread - fixing my beef with
reddit that there's no reasonable way to scan a thread for new posts
6. an easy way for moderators to delete spam
7. runs on 64 bit FreeBSD (what the Digital Mars server runs on), yes, I
know that means I have to get 64 bit dmd on FreeBSD working!


I can contribute the code that generates the D archive pages from the
news postings.


I hate to mention this in light of Adam's work, but Reddit is open 
source--why not run our own deployment of it for D?  It seems that these 
changes would require minimal changes to the code base, except for nntp 
access.  But I guess I don't understand the benefits of it over a 
web-based solution.


Re: New web newsreader - requesting participation

2011-02-03 Thread Adam Ruppe
Eric Poggel wrote:
 I hate to mention this in light of Adam's work, but Reddit is open
 source--why not run our own deployment of it for D?

I *really* dislike tree style interfaces. I find them incredibly
hard to navigate.

Of course, I'm fairly unlikely to use the web interface much
anyway (whether mine or someone else - I prefer my mail client
most the time), but still, it would be nice if it didn't suck.

Anyway, I did a little more work on my thing this morning:

http://arsdnet.net/d-web-site/nntp/thread-index?newsgroup=digitalmars.D

There's now [Tree] and [Linear] links on the right to view the
whole thread at once.


Any ideas on how to improve that? I copied a few basic elements
of reddit style sites, but I'm thinking that view works best
for very short messages.


Re: New web newsreader - requesting participation

2011-02-03 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad
On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:16:58 +, Adam Ruppe wrote:

 Eric Poggel wrote:
 I hate to mention this in light of Adam's work, but Reddit is open
 source--why not run our own deployment of it for D?
 
 I *really* dislike tree style interfaces. I find them incredibly hard to
 navigate.
 
 Of course, I'm fairly unlikely to use the web interface much anyway
 (whether mine or someone else - I prefer my mail client most the time),
 but still, it would be nice if it didn't suck.
 
 Anyway, I did a little more work on my thing this morning:
 
 http://arsdnet.net/d-web-site/nntp/thread-index?newsgroup=digitalmars.D
 
 There's now [Tree] and [Linear] links on the right to view the whole
 thread at once.
 
 
 Any ideas on how to improve that? I copied a few basic elements of
 reddit style sites, but I'm thinking that view works best for very short
 messages.

I agree.  Subject, author and date should be shown in a tree view, but 
you should never display more than one message body at a time.  The 
average message on this forum is far too long for that.

-Lars


Re: New web newsreader - requesting participation

2011-02-03 Thread Daniel Gibson
Am 03.02.2011 22:00, schrieb Lars T. Kyllingstad:
 On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 17:16:58 +, Adam Ruppe wrote:
 
 Eric Poggel wrote:
 I hate to mention this in light of Adam's work, but Reddit is open
 source--why not run our own deployment of it for D?

 I *really* dislike tree style interfaces. I find them incredibly hard to
 navigate.

 Of course, I'm fairly unlikely to use the web interface much anyway
 (whether mine or someone else - I prefer my mail client most the time),
 but still, it would be nice if it didn't suck.

 Anyway, I did a little more work on my thing this morning:

 http://arsdnet.net/d-web-site/nntp/thread-index?newsgroup=digitalmars.D

 There's now [Tree] and [Linear] links on the right to view the whole
 thread at once.


 Any ideas on how to improve that? I copied a few basic elements of
 reddit style sites, but I'm thinking that view works best for very short
 messages.
 
 I agree.  Subject, author and date should be shown in a tree view, but 
 you should never display more than one message body at a time.  The 
 average message on this forum is far too long for that.
 
 -Lars

I find it annoying to open each message in a thread manually.
I prefer a fully expanded thread with all bodies (or maybe partially expended by
subthreads or something when it's too big). This makes reading longer threads
much easier.
I haven't found a non-web-based news/mail client that does this yet, but going
to the next message with 'n' in Thunderbird certainly is less painful than
clicking the next message I want to read on a website.

Cheers,
- Daniel


Re: Phobos 2.051 CHM Help File

2011-02-03 Thread Joel Christensen

On 03-Feb-11 5:00 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote:

On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 05:48:07 +0200, Joel Christensen joel...@gmail.com
wrote:


I just get Navigation to the webpage was canceled what ever I've
click on in the left window.


http://thecybershadow.net/d/docs/#troubleshooting



Thanks Vladimir, got it working. The first thing I tried didn't work, 
but your links instructions did. :-)