Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 09:34:48 UTC, Russel Winder 
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

[…]
I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in
anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of 
argument
that was being used, or characterized certain actions 
negatively.

[…]

I beg to differ. I have the emails with you hurling personal 
abuse.


Your continuous, data free, but combative on others providing 
no data, hectoring is beginning to annoy people who are trying 
to be constructive within the D community. You have made your 
point, that you believe, and no one else here now gives a shit 
about.


I don't know who's going around deleting forum posts, which I'm 
against normally though in this case concede that our OT 
squabbling added nothing to this thread, but you missed this 
post, where he first started lying about what I wrote.


Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 16:56:17 UTC, Russel Winder 
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 09:45 +, Joakim via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:



[…]
Wtf are you talking about? I've never emailed you in my life. 
If you mean in this forum thread, quote what you think is 
"personal abuse," I see none.


We can get to that later, no need for now given your statement 
below.


I see, so you have nothing, as always.


[…]
I have not made my point, since most responding seem to think 
I'm trying to lessen in-person interaction, like even Walter 
above with his concert example, when that's the opposite of 
what I'm saying! I chalk that up to people like you, who lie 
about my not presenting any data when that's clearly linked in 
my first post, either because you don't know how to read or 
choose to lie anyway.


So we do not need any history of this thread to see that you 
have no compunction libelling people. Yes there is free speech, 
but there is also defamation via the written word which is a 
civil offence in UK law. This paragraph is almost certainly 
libellous. I am tempted to take legal advice from a UK libel 
solicitor of my acquaintance.


Wow, you've really gone off the deep end now. First you lie that 
I presented no data, then when called out, start claiming 
defamation and talk about bringing lawyers into it.


Good luck with that. :)

For someome who claims not to give a shit, you certainly keep 
replying a lot to me and lying about what I wrote.


You claimed you were going to stop engaging with me, email on 
this list 2018- 12-23T0808+00:00, but it seems you are failing 
to keep your promises.


I have stopped engaging with you on the thread topic, DConf, 
since then, but once you started lying about the tone and content 
of my posts, I've addressed that.


Re: DCD xmas edition

2018-12-26 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 21:48:25 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 21:31:52 UTC, WebFreak001 
wrote:

On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 13:24:30 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
By some chances some cool new feature were added latest week, 
justifying a new minor release [1]


[1] 
https://github.com/dlang-community/DCD/releases/tag/v0.10.0


really cool! Are the pre-compiled binaries getting added to it 
soon? I want to push this to code-d/serve-d before I release 
the next release.


They used to be automatically generated. I don't know what has 
happened this time.


it said "Skipping a deployment with the releases provider because 
this is not a tagged commit", maybe it's just missing a rebuild 
trigger because it was building before that was tagged as 
release. I'm gonna try to make it rebuild


Re: DCD xmas edition

2018-12-26 Thread Basile B. via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 21:31:52 UTC, WebFreak001 wrote:

On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 13:24:30 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
By some chances some cool new feature were added latest week, 
justifying a new minor release [1]


[1] https://github.com/dlang-community/DCD/releases/tag/v0.10.0


really cool! Are the pre-compiled binaries getting added to it 
soon? I want to push this to code-d/serve-d before I release 
the next release.


They used to be automatically generated. I don't know what has 
happened this time.


Re: DCD xmas edition

2018-12-26 Thread WebFreak001 via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 24 December 2018 at 13:24:30 UTC, Basile B. wrote:
By some chances some cool new feature were added latest week, 
justifying a new minor release [1]


[1] https://github.com/dlang-community/DCD/releases/tag/v0.10.0


really cool! Are the pre-compiled binaries getting added to it 
soon? I want to push this to code-d/serve-d before I release the 
next release.


Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 11:26:52 UTC, Guillaume Piolat 
wrote:
Went to bike there for 9 days (800km), to arrive the day before 
DConf.

Munich was a beautiful city but Switzerland was very graphic.
Friends jokingly said it was a D pilgrimage and it was, kind of 
:)


You could still have done that if the conference format was 
altered to increase in-person interaction!


Putting a face on people you've known from the internet is 
really surprising.


You would get MORE of that if the conference format was altered 
to increase in-person interaction.


Keep in mind that what I want to do is to tweak dconf, not to 
kill it. Change from 50 minute talk to 30 minute talk + 20 minute 
interaction, in at least some cases.


Or it might be fun to reconfigure a day: have all the day's 
speakers do 15 minute initial talks and pass out "learn more" 
links. Then we have a *two hour* lunch/mingling break which gives 
everyone a chance to digest the morning's information, look into 
the learn more stuff, form ad-hoc study groups, etc.


Then, after lunch, the speakers return for follow up stuff. Talk 
part 2, public Q, whatever, using the remaining 25 mins each of 
their time.



I'm open to a lot of ideas... I just want to spend more of the 
in-hours time doing in-person interaction.



My only regret was not sleeping at the hotel since you don't 
get as many occasions to meet people in a beer settings.


And again, a huge point I have been trying to make is we could 
get MORE of that if we tweaked the format!


Most everyone cites their favorite and most productive part of 
in-person meetings are actually the after hours stuff. (I hear 
this both from dconf and my day job - this is part of why it hits 
me so much, but the day job has been doing some tweaks this last 
year, to great success - I *know* these changes are for the 
better.)


So why not take some of the after-hours wins into the main event?

Going backwards to this:

The talks were honestly all interesting, probably being there 
puts you in the mood to really get into them.


Well, wouldn't it be fun to be able to talk about them or work 
with the ideas more in person?!


With my compromise proposals, you'd still get much of the same 
talk... just use a fraction of the remaining time to interact 
with everyone and their code directly.


Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 09:45 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> 
[…]
> Wtf are you talking about? I've never emailed you in my life. If 
> you mean in this forum thread, quote what you think is "personal 
> abuse," I see none.

We can get to that later, no need for now given your statement below.

[…]
> I have not made my point, since most responding seem to think I'm 
> trying to lessen in-person interaction, like even Walter above 
> with his concert example, when that's the opposite of what I'm 
> saying! I chalk that up to people like you, who lie about my not 
> presenting any data when that's clearly linked in my first post, 
> either because you don't know how to read or choose to lie anyway.

So we do not need any history of this thread to see that you have no
compunction libelling people. Yes there is free speech, but there is also
defamation via the written word which is a civil offence in UK law. This
paragraph is almost certainly libellous. I am tempted to take legal advice
from a UK libel solicitor of my acquaintance.

> For someome who claims not to give a shit, you certainly keep 
> replying a lot to me and lying about what I wrote.

You claimed you were going to stop engaging with me, email on this list 2018-
12-23T0808+00:00, but it seems you are failing to keep your promises.

-- 
Russel.
===
Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk



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Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread viniarck via Digitalmars-d-announce
Awesome! I look forward to DConf 2019. I'm planning my trip 
already.


Thanks you all who's working behind the scenes to make this 
happen. It's amazing.





Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 00:51:51 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe 
wrote:


The talks are either irrelevant, trivial, or vaporware 
(seriously, how much of the stuff described have never come to 
pass?), and there's really no benefit in spending several days 
of my life on that. Especially when I can watch it on youtube 
in half the time (thanks 2x speed playback)... or less (thanks 
skimming around to find the interesting nugget in the sea of 
boredom).




I think this is a bit uncharitable.

Last year I had an amazing time at Dconf.
Went to bike there for 9 days (800km), to arrive the day before 
DConf.

Munich was a beautiful city but Switzerland was very graphic.
Friends jokingly said it was a D pilgrimage and it was, kind of :)

The talks were honestly all interesting, probably being there 
puts you in the mood to really get into them. It's a shame not 
all of them were recorded. I remember those from Johnathan, 
Andrei and those talks on "open methods" more distinctly. Putting 
a face on people you've known from the internet is really 
surprising.


My only regret was not sleeping at the hotel since you don't get 
as many occasions to meet people in a beer settings.


I was more than happy to pay the full DConf price and expenses 
for a trip I will remember all my life.


Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 26 December 2018 at 09:34:48 UTC, Russel Winder 
wrote:
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via 
Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:

[…]
I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in
anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of 
argument
that was being used, or characterized certain actions 
negatively.

[…]

I beg to differ. I have the emails with you hurling personal 
abuse.


Wtf are you talking about? I've never emailed you in my life. If 
you mean in this forum thread, quote what you think is "personal 
abuse," I see none.


Your continuous, data free, but combative on others providing 
no data, hectoring is beginning to annoy people who are trying 
to be constructive within the D community. You have made your 
point, that you believe, and no one else here now gives a shit 
about.


I have not made my point, since most responding seem to think I'm 
trying to lessen in-person interaction, like even Walter above 
with his concert example, when that's the opposite of what I'm 
saying! I chalk that up to people like you, who lie about my not 
presenting any data when that's clearly linked in my first post, 
either because you don't know how to read or choose to lie anyway.


For someome who claims not to give a shit, you certainly keep 
replying a lot to me and lying about what I wrote.


Re: DConf 2019: Shepherd's Pie Edition

2018-12-26 Thread Russel Winder via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, 2018-12-26 at 05:07 +, Joakim via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote:
> […]
> I wrote. I have never called anyone any name or insult in 
> anything I wrote. I have used a pejorative for a type of argument 
> that was being used, or characterized certain actions negatively. 
[…]

I beg to differ. I have the emails with you hurling personal abuse.

Your continuous, data free, but combative on others providing no data,
hectoring is beginning to annoy people who are trying to be constructive
within the D community. You have made your point, that you believe, and no one
else here now gives a shit about.

-- 
Russel.
===
Dr Russel Winder  t: +44 20 7585 2200
41 Buckmaster Roadm: +44 7770 465 077
London SW11 1EN, UK   w: www.russel.org.uk



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