Re: [digitalradio] HF PBBS Mail - ECOMM Alternative?
> Thanks for the reminder Tony. Andy Andy, it's been a long time since I've used packet! > How do we know who our home BBS is? I assume > we still use that in the address line ? I found a 2 meter full-service PBBS station by checking local repeater websites. The stations I've come across on Network 105 are using Kam Plus TNCs with their internal mailbox. Need to investigate further. Tony -K2MO Original Message - From: "Andy obrien" To: Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] HF PBBS Mail - ECOMM Alternative? > Thanks for the reminder Tony. How do we know who our home BBS is? I > assume > we still use that in the address line ? > > Andy K3UK > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Tony wrote: > >> >> >> All, >> >> I've noticed there isn't much HF PBBS / Mailbox traffic these days >> despite >> there being quite a few dedicated stations on the air. The are several in >> use on the 105 Net frequency (14105.5 LSB) running KamPlus TNCs that >> accept >> mail. I think it's worthwhile to keep this in ones "bag of tricks" when >> it >> comes to emergency communications or general messaging as an alternative >> to >> other methods. >> >> We all know that 300 baud Packet is not the most robust mode in the >> toolbox, but it does fall into the same category as other fast modes >> (PSK250) that are geared toward high-speed messaging; they all require >> good >> signals and work well under stable conditions. The fact that there are >> many >> stations on the air makes it easier to find one with acceptable signals >> to >> run 300 baud Packet (see list of heard stations by AJ0O-1 below) >> >> I've been testing the past two weeks with, KC6OAR-1, W0TX-1 and AJ0O-1 to >> name a few and the results have been very good. Multipsk and Mixw are >> easy to use and Winpack (yes it's still available) works well with the >> AGW >> sound card engine. John, VE5MU and I have been messaging back-and-forth >> the last week or two - it works quite well. >> >> Just a thought... >> >> Tony -K2MO >> >> >> >> 1:Fm K2MO To AJ0O-1 [15:58:56] >> *** CONNECTED With Station AJ0O-1 >> [KAM-XL-1.0-HM$] >> 96872 BYTES AVAILABLE IN 26 BLOCKS >> THERE ARE 7 MESSAGES NUMBERED 1-12 >> ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help > >> J >> KB0MPY/1*25-OCT-09 1923Z >> VA3HRA/1*25-OCT-09 1923Z >> CO7GG-15/1 25-OCT-09 1927Z >> RZWBOX/1 25-OCT-09 1930Z >> NN4NC/1* 25-OCT-09 1935Z >> KQ4TG/1 25-OCT-09 1943Z >> KC6OAR-1/1 25-OCT-09 1945Z >> AB4KR/1 25-OCT-09 1948Z >> VE3PZ/1* 25-OCT-09 1951Z >> AB4KR-7/125-OCT-09 1951Z >> VE1JOT/1 25-OCT-09 1952Z >> NN4NC-5/125-OCT-09 1952Z >> KC6OAR-7/1 25-OCT-09 1952Z >> KC6OAR/1 25-OCT-09 1954Z >> K9VSO/1* 25-OCT-09 1955Z >> W0TX/1* 25-OCT-09 1956Z >> VE1AMA/1 25-OCT-09 1956Z >> CO2IZ/1 25-OCT-09 1957Z >> NN4NC-7/125-OCT-09 1959Z >> VE1AMA-7/1 25-OCT-09 1959Z >> WA6RZW/1*25-OCT-09 1959Z >> K2MO/1 25-OCT-09 1959Z >> ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help > >> >> >> >
Re: [digitalradio] Puppy mail config (pskmailrc.pl)
Well Andy I put an (F) in the scanners saved the txt and it stills load the wrong info. It acts as if the is loading from a different file, and renamed the freqs.txt to freqs-1.txt and and retyped a new freqs.txt and it still load the wrong info .. Well it bed time for me will working on this on Monday. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 8:24:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Puppy mail config (pskmailrc.pl) Change the 'S' to 'F' in your file . Then your freqs.txt file to 10147000,10147000, 10147000, 10147000, 10147000 Make sure you are saving the edited file to the correct folder, the one that it loads from. You should be on 10147 if you want same frequencies as other 30M servers. http://pskmail. wikispaces. com/scanning is where the detailed info is. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Russell Blair wrote: >I cant got the program to stop scanning and changing modes, In 'pskmailrc.pl' >in the (scanner = " ") I was hoping that leaving it blank it would not scan. >However that did not work. When I start the server it switches to 1.146.00, >now in the in the qrg folder (freqs.txt) is <10146000,10146000, 10146000, >10146000, 10146000> The mode is > But when the server is started is shows <10146000,10146000, 10146000, >10146000, 10146700> no type o, the mode is shown as PSK250,PSK250, Thor22 . >After the server is started it will switch bands. So need some help. >I dont want it to switch band or modes. ! > >Russell1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving >door! >2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough >to take everything you have. >- Thomas Jefferson > >" IN GOD WE TRUST " > >Russell Blair (NC5O) >Skype-Russell. Blair >Hell Field #300 >DRCC #55 >30m Dig-group #693 > >
Re: [digitalradio] Puppy mail config (pskmailrc.pl)
Change the 'S' to 'F' in your file . Then your freqs.txt file to 10147000,10147000,10147000,10147000,10147000 Make sure you are saving the edited file to the correct folder, the one that it loads from. You should be on 10147 if you want same frequencies as other 30M servers. http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/scanning is where the detailed info is. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Russell Blair wrote: > > > I cant got the program to stop scanning and changing modes, In ' > pskmailrc.pl' in the (scanner = " ") I was hoping that leaving it blank it > would not scan. However that did not work. When I start the server it > switches to 1.146.00, now in the in the qrg folder (freqs.txt) is > <10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000> The mode is > > But when the server is started is shows > <10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000,10146700> no type o, the mode is shown > as After the server is started it will switch bands. So need some help. > I dont want it to switch band or modes. ! > > Russell1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a > revolving door! > 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > enough to take everything you have. > - Thomas Jefferson > > " IN GOD WE TRUST " > > Russell Blair (NC5O) > Skype-Russell.Blair > Hell Field #300 > DRCC #55 > 30m Dig-group #693 > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FLdigi and MT63
Are the receiving stations able to actually hear your signal or see it on their waterfall? I just want to make sure your are actually sending audio over the air. If you are actually sending tones (e.g. the rig goes in to transmit when you press TX and their is RF showing on your power meter) then you need to match the receiving station's parameters . You need to either use MT63 500, MT63 1000 or MT63 2000. That will need to be the same as the receiving station. Your other options are probably set by your MARS net. Different MARS services use slightly different parameters, but usually they use 1000 Hz MT63. You can set these up in flidigi by going to CONFIGURE them MISC then MODEM then MT63. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Raymond Lunsford wrote: > > > When I xmt using tectronics signalink the info in does not come out > correct at the recieving end.I need to find out how to fill in the > blocks on FLDIGI. > > > On 10/25/09, Andy obrien > > wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raymond Lunsford > > > > > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n > >> Mars but no good so far.K4YDI > >> > > > > > > > > What is not working for you? Other than configuring your PC and rig > > to talk with each other via Fldigi, operating MT63 is just a matter of > > getting the MT63 parameters the same as your MARS net. My the way, > > quite a lot of MT63 on 20M today. > > > > Oh, the soundcard calibration is more critical with MT63, so you may > > want to run a calibration routine. If it is off by a lot, you will > > have trouble decoding signals. Let me know if you want to try an > > on-air test. > > > > >
[digitalradio] Puppy mail config (pskmailrc.pl)
I cant got the program to stop scanning and changing modes, In 'pskmailrc.pl' in the (scanner = " ") I was hoping that leaving it blank it would not scan. However that did not work. When I start the server it switches to 1.146.00, now in the in the qrg folder (freqs.txt) is <10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000> The mode is But when the server is started is shows <10146000,10146000,10146000,10146000,10146700> no type o, the mode is shown as
Re: [digitalradio] FLdigi and MT63
Maybe if I could be taked through some of the set up it might help.But I'll have to see how I get along. On 10/25/09, Raymond Lunsford wrote: > When I xmt using tectronics signalink the info in does not come out > correct at the recieving end.I need to find out how to fill in the > blocks on FLDIGI. > > On 10/25/09, Andy obrien wrote: >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raymond Lunsford >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n >>> Mars but no good so far.K4YDI >>> >> >> >> >> What is not working for you? Other than configuring your PC and rig >> to talk with each other via Fldigi, operating MT63 is just a matter of >> getting the MT63 parameters the same as your MARS net. My the way, >> quite a lot of MT63 on 20M today. >> >> Oh, the soundcard calibration is more critical with MT63, so you may >> want to run a calibration routine. If it is off by a lot, you will >> have trouble decoding signals. Let me know if you want to try an >> on-air test. >> >> >> >> Andy K3UK >> >> >> >> >> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at >> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked >> >> Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or >> Multipsk >> Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >
Re: [digitalradio] FLdigi and MT63
How do I run configuring run?I'm dumb with this but I'm having fun. On 10/25/09, Andy obrien wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raymond Lunsford > wrote: >> >> >> >> Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n >> Mars but no good so far.K4YDI >> > > > > What is not working for you? Other than configuring your PC and rig > to talk with each other via Fldigi, operating MT63 is just a matter of > getting the MT63 parameters the same as your MARS net. My the way, > quite a lot of MT63 on 20M today. > > Oh, the soundcard calibration is more critical with MT63, so you may > want to run a calibration routine. If it is off by a lot, you will > have trouble decoding signals. Let me know if you want to try an > on-air test. > > > > Andy K3UK > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] FLdigi and MT63
When I xmt using tectronics signalink the info in does not come out correct at the recieving end.I need to find out how to fill in the blocks on FLDIGI. On 10/25/09, Andy obrien wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raymond Lunsford > wrote: >> >> >> >> Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n >> Mars but no good so far.K4YDI >> > > > > What is not working for you? Other than configuring your PC and rig > to talk with each other via Fldigi, operating MT63 is just a matter of > getting the MT63 parameters the same as your MARS net. My the way, > quite a lot of MT63 on 20M today. > > Oh, the soundcard calibration is more critical with MT63, so you may > want to run a calibration routine. If it is off by a lot, you will > have trouble decoding signals. Let me know if you want to try an > on-air test. > > > > Andy K3UK > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
[digitalradio] FLdigi and MT63
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Raymond Lunsford wrote: > > > > Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n > Mars but no good so far.K4YDI > What is not working for you? Other than configuring your PC and rig to talk with each other via Fldigi, operating MT63 is just a matter of getting the MT63 parameters the same as your MARS net. My the way, quite a lot of MT63 on 20M today. Oh, the soundcard calibration is more critical with MT63, so you may want to run a calibration routine. If it is off by a lot, you will have trouble decoding signals. Let me know if you want to try an on-air test. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Do you know much about FLDIGI?I am trying to use it with MTR-63 0n Mars but no good so far.K4YDI On 10/25/09, ke4nu_7 wrote: > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I > see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. > Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any > help..Alan > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Speaking of packet BBS', don't forget ALE
Yes it does. The software indicates an ability to listen and wait for a clear frequency but it does not always work. Same for several other applications that periodically beacon their identification. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Charles Brabham wrote: > > > Doesn't PC ALE end up transmitting without listening? If so, it would not > be suitable for BBS use. We have to stick with the PART97 regs and good > operating procedure pretty closely. > > 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Speaking of packet BBS', don't forget ALE
Doesn't PC ALE end up transmitting without listening? If so, it would not be suitable for BBS use. We have to stick with the PART97 regs and good operating procedure pretty closely. 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:21 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Speaking of packet BBS', don't forget ALE Since Tony reminded us of the packet BBS world, I feel obliged to mention ALE again. yes, I know it is "old hat" but it is still spectacular in many ways. Today I had PC-ALE scanning 8 bands in 16 seconds when I heard my station respond to someone. A station in Arizona had called up a net, I guess I was on the list of net stations because he found me and I called him back automatically. We then had a nice chat on 20M. Charles Brain should get two awards... one for the most simple piece of software and one for the most complicated piece of software. PC-ALE is both simple and complex but one amazing achievement. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Thanks Andy. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 4:04:53 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what? Russell, .pskmail/pskmailrc.pl is the file that you can edit . This file can contain you callsign, lat/lontitude and SMTP server if you do not want to enter in each time you boot the software. Itis also where you can set some scan parameters. look for the line with SCANNER in it and change 'F' to an 'S' if you want to scan modes and not frequencies. There is also another file freqs.txt that you can edit and add different modes if you want to. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Russell Blair wrote: >Andy, Got up and running but I need to change some setting, what folder do I >change the scanning to no scan. and what other files do I need to edit. > >Russell > 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! >2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough >to take everything you have. >- Thomas Jefferson > > >" IN GOD WE TRUST " > > >Russell Blair (NC5O) >Skype-Russell. Blair >Hell Field #300 >DRCC #55 >30m Dig-group #693 > > > > > From: obrienaj >To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com >Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 2:01:19 PM >Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what? > > > > >Great news Alan. > >Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass some >items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can connect to >the internet. So, first thing would be to try and configure you PC to detect >wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at that screen at >the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on the CONNECT ICON >on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you need more help. > >Start FLdigi > >Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type > >'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter > >Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your STMP >address that you use (if you use outlook express look in accounts/properties >/servers for the SMTP address > >After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 mode. > >If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to actually >change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. We'll do that >later. > >I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more then, if >you need a test. > >Andy K3UK > >--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "ke4nu_7" wrote: >> >> I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I >> see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. >> Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any >> help..Alan >> > > >
[digitalradio] Speaking of packet BBS', don't forget ALE
Since Tony reminded us of the packet BBS world, I feel obliged to mention ALE again. yes, I know it is "old hat" but it is still spectacular in many ways. Today I had PC-ALE scanning 8 bands in 16 seconds when I heard my station respond to someone. A station in Arizona had called up a net, I guess I was on the list of net stations because he found me and I called him back automatically. We then had a nice chat on 20M. Charles Brain should get two awards... one for the most simple piece of software and one for the most complicated piece of software. PC-ALE is both simple and complex but one amazing achievement. Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
I tried but no path between us Alan. Last night K7EK had a good 30M path to me from Washington, so perhaps later tonight we will be able to test your server On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 3:31 PM, ke4nu_7 wrote: > > > Thanks for the info, I doubt if anyone would be able to hear me here in > western montana on 10 mhz but its something to try..I'll give it a shot and > see...73, Alan > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , > "obrienaj" wrote: > > > > > > Great news Alan. > > > > Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass > some items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can > connect to the internet. So, first thing would be to try and configure you > PC to detect wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at > that screen at the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on > the CONNECT ICON on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you > need more help. > > > > > > Start FLdigi > > > > > > Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type > > > > 'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter > > > > Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your > STMP address that you use (if you use outlook express look in > accounts/properties/servers for the SMTP address > > > > After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 > mode. > > > > If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to > actually change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. > We'll do that later. > > > > I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more > then, if you need a test. > > > > Andy K3UK > > > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , > "ke4nu_7" wrote: > > > > > > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my > laptop. I see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of > this. Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any > help..Alan > > > > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Russell, .pskmail/pskmailrc.pl is the file that you can edit . This file can contain you callsign, lat/lontitude and SMTP server if you do not want to enter in each time you boot the software. Itis also where you can set some scan parameters. look for the line with SCANNER in it and change 'F' to an 'S' if you want to scan modes and not frequencies. There is also another file freqs.txt that you can edit and add different modes if you want to. Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Russell Blair wrote: > > > Andy, Got up and running but I need to change some setting, what folder do > I change the scanning to no scan. and what other files do I need to edit. > > Russell > > 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving > door! > 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > enough to take everything you have. > - Thomas Jefferson > > > " IN GOD WE TRUST " > > > Russell Blair (NC5O) > Skype-Russell.Blair > Hell Field #300 > DRCC #55 > 30m Dig-group #693 > > > -- > *From:* obrienaj > *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sun, October 25, 2009 2:01:19 PM > *Subject:* [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what? > > > > > Great news Alan. > > Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass some > items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can connect > to the internet. So, first thing would be to try and configure you PC to > detect wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at that > screen at the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on the > CONNECT ICON on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you > need more help. > > Start FLdigi > > Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type > > 'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter > > Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your STMP > address that you use (if you use outlook express look in accounts/properties > /servers for the SMTP address > > After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 > mode. > > If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to > actually change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. > We'll do that later. > > I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more then, > if you need a test. > > Andy K3UK > > --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com , > "ke4nu_7" wrote: > > > > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. > I see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. > Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any > help..Alan > > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] HF PBBS Mail - ECOMM Alternative?
Thanks for the reminder Tony. How do we know who our home BBS is? I assume we still use that in the address line ? Andy K3UK On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Tony wrote: > > > All, > > I've noticed there isn't much HF PBBS / Mailbox traffic these days despite > there being quite a few dedicated stations on the air. The are several in > use on the 105 Net frequency (14105.5 LSB) running KamPlus TNCs that accept > mail. I think it's worthwhile to keep this in ones "bag of tricks" when it > comes to emergency communications or general messaging as an alternative to > other methods. > > We all know that 300 baud Packet is not the most robust mode in the > toolbox, but it does fall into the same category as other fast modes > (PSK250) that are geared toward high-speed messaging; they all require good > signals and work well under stable conditions. The fact that there are many > stations on the air makes it easier to find one with acceptable signals to > run 300 baud Packet (see list of heard stations by AJ0O-1 below) > > I've been testing the past two weeks with, KC6OAR-1, W0TX-1 and AJ0O-1 to > name a few and the results have been very good. Multipsk and Mixw are > easy to use and Winpack (yes it's still available) works well with the AGW > sound card engine. John, VE5MU and I have been messaging back-and-forth > the last week or two - it works quite well. > > Just a thought... > > Tony -K2MO > > > > 1:Fm K2MO To AJ0O-1 [15:58:56] > *** CONNECTED With Station AJ0O-1 > [KAM-XL-1.0-HM$] > 96872 BYTES AVAILABLE IN 26 BLOCKS > THERE ARE 7 MESSAGES NUMBERED 1-12 > ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help > > J > KB0MPY/1*25-OCT-09 1923Z > VA3HRA/1*25-OCT-09 1923Z > CO7GG-15/1 25-OCT-09 1927Z > RZWBOX/1 25-OCT-09 1930Z > NN4NC/1* 25-OCT-09 1935Z > KQ4TG/1 25-OCT-09 1943Z > KC6OAR-1/1 25-OCT-09 1945Z > AB4KR/1 25-OCT-09 1948Z > VE3PZ/1* 25-OCT-09 1951Z > AB4KR-7/125-OCT-09 1951Z > VE1JOT/1 25-OCT-09 1952Z > NN4NC-5/125-OCT-09 1952Z > KC6OAR-7/1 25-OCT-09 1952Z > KC6OAR/1 25-OCT-09 1954Z > K9VSO/1* 25-OCT-09 1955Z > W0TX/1* 25-OCT-09 1956Z > VE1AMA/1 25-OCT-09 1956Z > CO2IZ/1 25-OCT-09 1957Z > NN4NC-7/125-OCT-09 1959Z > VE1AMA-7/1 25-OCT-09 1959Z > WA6RZW/1*25-OCT-09 1959Z > K2MO/1 25-OCT-09 1959Z > ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help > > > >
[digitalradio] HF PBBS Mail - ECOMM Alternative?
All, I've noticed there isn't much HF PBBS / Mailbox traffic these days despite there being quite a few dedicated stations on the air. The are several in use on the 105 Net frequency (14105.5 LSB) running KamPlus TNCs that accept mail. I think it's worthwhile to keep this in ones "bag of tricks" when it comes to emergency communications or general messaging as an alternative to other methods. We all know that 300 baud Packet is not the most robust mode in the toolbox, but it does fall into the same category as other fast modes (PSK250) that are geared toward high-speed messaging; they all require good signals and work well under stable conditions. The fact that there are many stations on the air makes it easier to find one with acceptable signals to run 300 baud Packet (see list of heard stations by AJ0O-1 below) I've been testing the past two weeks with, KC6OAR-1, W0TX-1 and AJ0O-1 to name a few and the results have been very good. Multipsk and Mixw are easy to use and Winpack (yes it's still available) works well with the AGW sound card engine. John, VE5MU and I have been messaging back-and-forth the last week or two - it works quite well. Just a thought... Tony -K2MO 1:Fm K2MO To AJ0O-1 [15:58:56]*** CONNECTED With Station AJ0O-1[KAM-XL-1.0-HM$]96872 BYTES AVAILABLE IN 26 BLOCKSTHERE ARE 7 MESSAGES NUMBERED 1-12ENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help >JKB0MPY/1*25-OCT-09 1923ZVA3HRA/1*25-OCT-09 1923ZCO7GG-15/1 25-OCT-09 1927ZRZWBOX/1 25-OCT-09 1930ZNN4NC/1* 25-OCT-09 1935ZKQ4TG/1 25-OCT-09 1943ZKC6OAR-1/1 25-OCT-09 1945ZAB4KR/1 25-OCT-09 1948ZVE3PZ/1* 25-OCT-09 1951ZAB4KR-7/125-OCT-09 1951ZVE1JOT/1 25-OCT-09 1952ZNN4NC-5/125-OCT-09 1952ZKC6OAR-7/1 25-OCT-09 1952ZKC6OAR/1 25-OCT-09 1954ZK9VSO/1* 25-OCT-09 1955ZW0TX/1* 25-OCT-09 1956ZVE1AMA/1 25-OCT-09 1956ZCO2IZ/1 25-OCT-09 1957ZNN4NC-7/125-OCT-09 1959ZVE1AMA-7/1 25-OCT-09 1959ZWA6RZW/1*25-OCT-09 1959ZK2MO/1 25-OCT-09 1959ZENTER COMMAND: B,J,K,L,R,S, or Help >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Andy, Got up and running but I need to change some setting, what folder do I change the scanning to no scan. and what other files do I need to edit. Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson " IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 From: obrienaj To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 2:01:19 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what? Great news Alan. Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass some items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can connect to the internet. So, first thing would be to try and configure you PC to detect wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at that screen at the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on the CONNECT ICON on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you need more help. Start FLdigi Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type 'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your STMP address that you use (if you use outlook express look in accounts/properties /servers for the SMTP address After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 mode. If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to actually change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. We'll do that later. I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more then, if you need a test. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, "ke4nu_7" wrote: > > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I > see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. Pardon > my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any help..Alan >
[digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Andy, I don't really know what i'm doing but its up and operational as far as I can tell. I did as you said...I have the rig sitting on 10.147 1000 offset...Information is all entered that it asked me. So what do I do now?...thanks, Alan
[digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Thanks for the info, I doubt if anyone would be able to hear me here in western montana on 10 mhz but its something to try..I'll give it a shot and see...73, Alan --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "obrienaj" wrote: > > > Great news Alan. > > Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass some > items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can connect > to the internet.So, first thing would be to try and configure you PC to > detect wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at that > screen at the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on the > CONNECT ICON on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you > need more help. > > > Start FLdigi > > > Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type > > 'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter > > Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your STMP > address that you use (if you use outlook express look in > accounts/properties/servers for the SMTP address > > After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 mode. > > If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to > actually change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. We'll > do that later. > > I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more then, > if you need a test. > > Andy K3UK > > --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "ke4nu_7" wrote: > > > > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I > > see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. > > Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any > > help..Alan > > >
[digitalradio] Re: Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
Great news Alan. Since PSKMAIL also is an APRS conduit , and uses the Internet to pass some items to APRS servers, it would be useful for you to see if you can connect to the internet.So, first thing would be to try and configure you PC to detect wither your ethernet port or your wireless port. I am not at that screen at the moment and cannot remember the steps, but try clicking on the CONNECT ICON on your puppy desktop and go from there. Let me know if you need more help. Start FLdigi Then to actually start the server, click on CONSOLE and then type 'pskmail_sever' (include the apostrophes ) then hit enter Answer the questions about your callsign, lontitude/latitude and your STMP address that you use (if you use outlook express look in accounts/properties/servers for the SMTP address After you enter those brief questions, the server will start in PSK250 mode. If you want to change the mode, change it via fldigi. If you want to actually change modes on a schedule there are a couple of others steps. We'll do that later. I am going out for an hour , be back about 2000 UTC. We can test more then, if you need a test. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "ke4nu_7" wrote: > > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I > see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. Pardon > my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any help..Alan >
Re: [digitalradio] Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
With Fldigi running, open up a Console and type pskmail_server then hit enter. -Josh KD7PAJ > I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I > see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. Pardon > my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any help..Alan
[digitalradio] Downloaded Puppy Pskmail Server Now what?
I downloaded and burned it to cd. I've brought up puppy o/s on my laptop. I see Fldigi and it works but what do I do to make a server out of this. Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what to do next? thanks for any help..Alan
[digitalradio] A week of PSKMAIl (with Fldigi)
I wanted to thank Rein for his hard work in developing a simple to use Puppy ISO for us non-Linux users to be able to try PSKMAIL server operations. I am quite impressed by the features that PSKMAIL has. I know that the concept is simple, but the addition of RSID and the multi mode nature of fldigi really make a difference for PSKMAIL. Yesterday, my server was monitoring the band in Thorr22 mode . I heard weak RSID on the band and noticed I had been switched to THOR8 by the reception of the RSID and then the person connected to my server. I am impressed that we have a email and APRS system that can be used on HF and we can change the mail server station's mode if necessary. I still have to do some experimenting to find that mode that will do error free ARQ type message exchanges in just "fair" conditions. I have had people connect and try Thorr22, 11, and 8. plus various BPSK , and also MFK16. We have all had those QSOs where a really weak signal still produces 100% copy while keyboarding. However I have yet to see that using ALE, WINMOR, FLARQ, or PSKMAIL. Under just fair conditions , using the aforementioned in ARQ/FEC states, it always seems difficult to get a message through when conditions are not optimum. MFSK16 did pretty well though, so perhaps I will play around more with that. While we know that PSKMAIL works well with modes like PSK250 and THOR22 when there is a good signal, my goal is to find a mode that can be switched to to get a message through during poor conditions, even if it is very slow due to repeated request to resend data . After a week of playing around, asking questions, and reading some instructions, I have learned there is a lot to PSKMAIL. Rein PA0R and Pär SM0RWO should be congratulated for their fine product . Dave W1HKJ , Stelios M0GLD and Leigh WA5ZNU should likewise be congratulated for their innovations in fldigi. In fact I will go as far as saying that if you want your station to be prepared for digital mode use in emergency situations, Fldigi is now THE software that each ham should have. The pskmail, flarq,and wrap file options with Fldigi give the "emcomm" ham all they need for either VHF or HF emergency work. That is indeed a bold statement but one that I feel I can verify. My view is that every station at a EOC or hospital should have a boot disc with FLdigi laying around, ready for use...just in case. In fact, on Monday I will place a copy in the RACES station at my local hospital. Andy k3uk
[digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list
> The "first list" (272 possibilities) permits to > have codings orthogonal (or almost orthogonal) in time and frequency, so not > to > mix two possible contiguous (in time or frequency) RS ID. orthogonal = "as much different as possible". For example, integrating sin(x)*cos(x) over 2pi interval will provide zero result, the sine and cosine functions are called to be orthogonal. With RSID you want to achieve, that you will not falsely decode one code as another one if shifted in time or frequency (or inverted by selecting wrong sideband). With low SNR and/or lot QRM/QRN there may be random "tones" detected, which may be falsely added to the real RSID diddle. Some of the RSID numbers were not used, because they look similar to the codes left in the table, when shifted in time or frequency. For example, binary code 111010 looks similar to 110101 after shifting one bit right. 111010 110101 73, Vojtech OK1IAK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Warren Moxley wrote: > > Patrick, > > I am not sure I know what you are saying. > Are you saying I need two list? > > Warren - K5WGM > > > --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Patrick Lindecker wrote: > > From: Patrick Lindecker > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID numbers + New official RS ID list > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 10:02 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Warren, > > >I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I made a list from you > code. > >Notice the gaps. > The "first list" (272 possibilities) permits to > have codings orthogonal (or almost orthogonal) in time and frequency, so not > to > mix two possible contiguous (in time or frequency) RS ID. > > 73 > Patrick > > - Original Message - > From: > Warren Moxley > > To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com > > Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:49 > PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: RSID > numbers + New official RS ID list > > > > > > Patrick, > > I wanted this info in a spreadsheet so I > made a list from you code. > Notice the > gaps. > = = = > 1 > BPSK31 > 2 BPSK63 > 3 QPSK63 > 4 > BPSK125 > 5 QPSK125 > > 7 PSKFEC31 > 8 > PSK10 > 9 MT63-500-LG > 10 MT63-500-ST > 11 > MT63-500-VST > 12 MT63-1000-LG > 13 > MT63-1000-ST > 14 MT63-1000-VST > 15 > MT63-2000-LG > > 17 MT63-2000-ST > 18 > MT63-2000-VST > 19 PSKAM10 > 20 PSKAM31 > 21 > PSKAM50 > 22 PSK63F > 23 PSK220F > 24 > CHIP-64 > 25 CHIP-128 > 26 CW > 27 > CCW-OOK-12 > 28 CCW-OOK-24 > 29 CCW-OOK-48 > 30 > CCW-FSK-12 > 31 CCW-FSK-24 > > 33 CCW-FSK-48 > 34 > PACTOR1-FEC > 35 PACKET-300 > 36 PACKET-1200 > 37 > ASCII-7 > 38 ASCII-8 > 39 RTTY-45 > 40 > RTTY-50 > 41 RTTY-75 > 42 AMTOR FEC > 43 > THROB-1 > 44 THROB-2 > 45 THROB-4 > 46 > THROBX-1 > 47 THROBX-2 > > 49 > CONTESTIA-8- 250 > 50 CONTESTIA-16- 500 > 51 > CONTESTIA-32- 1000 > 52 CONTESTIA-8- 500 > 53 > CONTESTIA-16- 1000 > 54 CONTESTIA-4- 500 > 55 > CONTESTIA-4- 250 > 56 VOICE > 57 MFSK16 > > > 60 > MFSK8 > 61 RTTYM-8-250 > 62 RTTYM-16-500 > 63 > RTTYM-32-1000 > > 65 RTTYM-8-500 > 66 > RTTYM-16-1000 > 67 RTTYM-4-500 > 68 > RTTYM-4-250 > 69 OLIVIA-8-250 > 70 > OLIVIA-16-500 > 71 OLIVIA-32-1000 > 72 > OLIVIA-8-500 > 73 OLIVIA-16-1000 > 74 > OLIVIA-4-500 > 75 OLIVIA-4-250 > 76 PAX > 77 > PAX2 > 78 DOMINOF > 79 FAX > > 81 > SSTV > > > 84 DOMINOEX-4 > 85 DOMINOEX-5 > 86 > DOMINOEX-8 > 87 DOMINOEX-11 > 88 > DOMINOEX-16 > > 90 DOMINOEX-22 > > 92 > DOMINOEX-4-FEC > 93 DOMINOEX-5-FEC > > > > 97 > DOMINOEX-8-FEC > 98 DOMINOEX-11- FEC > 99 > DOMINOEX-16- FEC > 101 DOMINOEX-22- FEC > > > > 104 FELD > HELL > 105 PSK HELL > 106 HELL 80 > 107 FM HELL-105 > 108 FM > HELL-245 > > 110 QPSK31 > > > 113 PACKET-110 > 114 > 141A > > 116 OLIVIA-8-1000 > 117 CONTESTIA-8- 1000 > > 119 > RTTYM-8-1000 > > > > 123 DTMF > > 125 ALE400 > 126 > BPSK250 > 127 QPSK250 > > > > 131 FDMDV > 132 JT65-A > > 134 > JT65-B > 135 JT65-C > 136 THOR-4 > 137 THOR-8 > 138 THOR-16 > 139 > THOR-5 > > > > 143 THOR-11 > > 145 THOR-22 > 146 > THROBX-4 > 147 MFSK32 > 148 MFSK11 > > > > 152 MFSK22 > 153 > CALL ID > 155 PACKET-PSK1200 > > 156 PACKET-PSK250 > > > 159 > PACKET-PSK63 > > > > 163 OLIVIA-8-125 > > > > > > 169 > CONTESTIA-8- 125 > 170 RTTYM-8-125 > > 172 110A-8N1 > 173 > BPSK500 > = = = = = > > 73, > Warren - K5WGM > > ---
Re: [digitalradio] PSK500 **Minimum SNR - Fast vrs. Slow PSK Modes**
Dave AF6AS wrote: >> If you go much above a 2 Khz bandwidth, you're going to start ruling out a >> lot of rigs that don't have the audio bandwidth to pass that wide of a >> signal. Made a mistake on the PSK625 bandwidth - it should have read 1.2K not 2K. I'm not a advocate of exceedingly wide modes on HF anyway Dave, unless their use is justified. > wonder how PSK 2000 would compare with esisting modes, such as > Olivia 32/2000 and MT63 at 2 Khz bandwidth. It's really an apples-to-oranges comparison since the other modes you mentioned have much lower minimum SNR thresholds than say PSK500 - they also have much slower throughput. Mode Minimum SNR WPM PSK500 (900Hz BW) +3db 560 (approximate) PSK250 (400Hz BW) -1db 280" MT63-2K-5db 200 MT63-1K-7db 100 Olivia 64-2K -13db 42 " Olivia16/500 -14db 24 " Contestia 16/500 -12db 46 " As the saying goes, there's no free lunch -- it seems that high-speed usually means less sensitivity and more power to make it work. Another issue is baud rate - I believe PSK500 runs 500 baud - well beyond the 300 baud HF limit. If you like Olivia 64/2K Dave, I'd give Contestia 500/16 a try. They are very close in sensitivity and over-all performance. Contestia 500-16 uses 1/4th the bandwidth and the wpm rate is slightly faster as well. Tony -K2MO
