Re: [digitalradio] RS ID use ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

My article must have scared them away.


  - Original Message - 
  From: F.R. Ashley 
  To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [digitalradio] RS ID use ?


No, I haven't. Haven't heard any RSID's for the past 2 days actually.

  73 Buddy WB4M

  - Original Message - 
  From: "obrienaj" 
  To: 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:56 PM
  Subject: [digitalradio] RS ID use ?

  > Anyone notice an increase in the use of RS ID since the QST article last 
  > week?
  >
  > Andy K3UK
  >
  > 


  

[digitalradio] Inexpensive digital mode interfaces with LINUX ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Does anyone know if there are inexpensive digital mdoe interfaces that work 
under Linux, have a usb conenctor, and provide  CAT rig control ?   I have a 
good inertface but it supports Windows only.  For some upcoming projects I 
would like to have one that works under Linux.  I was looking at the Donner 
digital interfaces but it is not clear if they require software that works with 
Windows or they are multi-platform

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Mail/File Tranfers on HF: Some Reflections on Winmor, PSKMAIL, FIdigi, and ALE.

[Andrew O'Brien]

While my primary interest in digital mode amateur radio is the keyboard QSO, I 
have spent the past few weeks extensively testing WINMOR, PSKMAIL, ALE, FLdigi 
with Wrap and FLARQ.   All of these applications have essentially the ability 
to send files and messages via digital mode and with error correction. I am 
quite interested in HF initiated messages, a system whereby the ham does not 
need Internet access to initiate a message.   WINMOR , as part of RMS Express,  
allows only peer to peer messaging at the moment but as it develops will add 
mailboxes that shift messages to the Internet where desired.   However, WINMOR 
has a long way to go in its development and ,as it presently stands , is not 
particularly effective.  Lots of promise for the future though.  ALE , both the 
"standard" version and ALE 400 , are always quite useful but their mail 
interfaces seem to  need simplifying.  

After a few weeks of testing, Fldigi seems to have emerged as the application 
with the most "ecomm" message transfer interest.  There are many  groups of 
hams that are using FLdigi in emergency drills and sending mail or file 
transfers.  Much has been written already about FLARQ but the recent addition 
(almost seamlessly)  of WRAP files to FLdigi really is a significant 
development for those wishing to easily send messages that are error free.  I 
still stand by Skip Teller's statement a couple of hears ago, that emergency 
communication will work best when hams are using "emcomm" applications that are 
the same applications they use for regular on-air activities.  FLdigi with wrap 
files , and a few other bells and whistles,  achieves this perfectly. 

I'm greedy and "want it all".  Some applications allow mailbox  type functions 
and some allow ham-to-ham direct connects, not all allow provide for both.  
With Fldigi  ( and Multipsk in ALE400 )  you can easily send files ham-to-ham 
with error correction,  In FL-digi you can easily do this with a large variety 
of digital modes, whichever one suits the conditions.  However, what about mail 
transfers ?  You can do that with Fldigi via the email client in FLARQ but I 
think my tests with PSKMAIL have established that the perfect fit for HF mail 
transfers is PSKMAIL.  PSKMAIl is not ham-to-ham (use Fldigi for that) but 
PSKMAIL does allow you to send and retrieve email without Internet access.  
Essentially, PSKMAIL is an "add-on" to FLDIGI, it uses fldigi as the "engine" 
for many of  digital modes FLDIGI supplies.  PSKMAIL may eventually need a new 
name because you do not  necessarily need to use PSK as the digital mode, Thor, 
MFSK, and DominoEx are also used.

So in the digital ham's world.. on a daily basis the ham might use fldigi (or 
others like DM780 or Multipsk) for ragchew keyboard QSOs.  They can now use 
FLdigi for the transfer of any files with error free capability , and with 
PSKMAIL added on they can connect to a server and pick-up or send email 
without the Internet.  I hope to test PSKMAIL more in the next few weeks, my 
thanks to all those that are providing HF "servers" for us to access.  
Hopefully we can add a few more in North America soon. The standard at the 
moment for PSKMAIl transfers appears to be the higher speed PSK modes (e.g. 
PSK250)  .  That will provide fast transfers but also will need a good signal , 
thus a network of stations rather than relying on long-hop DX connections will 
improve things.  Long-hop DX can be done , one PSKMAIL Server operator said he 
had a person in a boat off the coast of Africa use his 30M station in the USA 
to pick up mail, but a good server network will make things easier.  While 30M 
seems a good choice for national and International PSKMAIL operations, I am 
also now beginning to thing amateur radio emergency groups my also want to 
explore 6 meters for some regional applications. 

Just a few reflections,   73 de Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] QRV RFSM-8000 tonight

[Andrew O'Brien]

I did not transmit afterall, I need to do more research in to the legalities 
for USA hams.

Andy K3UK
 

  

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE-400 - Keyboard mode / ALE

[Andrew O'Brien]

>Another unique aspect of ALE-400 is it's bilateral operation. Since both 
>stations can type at the same time, text from each station passes 
>back-and-forth ever few seconds allowing the conversation to change 
>directions quickly if need be. The bilateral wpm rate is 85 wpm >or 42wpm 
>each way; the standard is 60 wpm unilateral.
>Tony -K2MO


That is a good point and one I am not sure many people are aware of.  Much 
better than  taking turns.

Andy K3UK 

[digitalradio] Re: PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.

[Andrew O'Brien]

>.  The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test
> today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm.  I
> was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail.
>


I sent an email to myself while the Internet was down at home, this
was a test message dropped in to the Internet via 30M PSKMAIL transfer
and WB5CON's station.   It worked


- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009
Subject: Test while Internet down


> PSKmail message from aobrien2 stny.rr.com
> Test from Andy

I received the above in my Outlook in-box later , when the Internet at
home was up and working again.

Russell, your station responds to em like I am "connected" and I am
not.  Thus when your server is asking me to update the record, I can't
because I am not connected.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] PSKMAIL: A Different Kettle of Fish.

[Andrew O'Brien]

After a few weeks of WINMOR testing, where I exchanged brief emails
directly with a number of hams, PSKMAIL is going to take some getting
used to.  Thanks to Rein I got the programs set-up and have had good
PSK250 paths during the day time to WB5CON.  So, when I checked in to
the WB5CON mail server and asked for my mail, I thought I would maybe
get a  brief email from Rein or some ham that uses PSKMAIL.  I was
surprised when my first email QUICKLY (compared  to WINMOR) started to
scroll in on 30M...

Your msg: 8032
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:45:44 -0700
From: "Verizon Wireless" 
Subject: Meet a Few Representatives from Customer Service

snip...

I forgot that PSKMAIL is a full email service, you can get ALL your
email via PSKMAIL, all your email that goes to the reply address you
specify in PSKMAIL set-up.  The PSKMAIL Gods must have arranged a test
today because my home internet service is down due to a wind storm.  I
was able to use PSKMAIL via ham radio to check my mail.

Using PSK250, I am not always able to make  a "connect" to a server
despite moderate signals, but it does appears to be more robust than
current versions of WINMOR.  I'll play around some more.


Andy K3UK

-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: PSK Reporter and PSK250 reports ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Philip, I will assume that FL-digi transmits the correct ADIF string
to you for PSK250.  It may simply be that the people using PSKMAIL via
PSK250 are not reporting your PSK Reporter.  It will be nice to see it get
used more often so that PSKMAIL Servers propagation can be quickly viewed
and a user decide which server to access for their mail.  I am currently
monitoring a server frequency, using PSK250, and have FLDIGI reporting to
PSK REPORTER.  I will check to see if the stations I have heard today are
reported to PSK Reporter.

Andy K3UK


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:01 AM, philipjsg wrote:

>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Andrew O'Brien"  wrote:
> >
> > I do not see PSK250 among the list of "modes" that one can select in
> > PSK Reporter . Does anyone know if it can be done ? It would be
> > useful to spot PSKMAIL server propagation, especially since FLdigi can
> > be configured to send to PSK Reporter.
>
> You can send any mode you like, but please use the ADIF mode strings. The
> drop down list is dynamically generated from all the modes that have been
> received over the last 24 hours. [At least that is what is supposed to
> happen. If it doesn't, then I'd treat it as a bug.]
>

Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL Server

[Andrew O'Brien]

OK, so far not hearing you.



On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
> No its on 7076 on ur dial.
>
> Russell
> 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving
> door!
> 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong
> enough to take everything you have.
> - Thomas Jefferson
>

Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail Server

[Andrew O'Brien]

GREAT!

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Russell Blair wrote:

>
>
> I'm going to move my PSKmail server to 7087 Mhz on your dial.
>
> Russell NC5O
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> door!
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKMAIL "does NOT need a BBS"

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks.  I will play around some more with using the servers.

Andy K3UK

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:
> Correct for the jpskmail client, it is possible on the old Linux client 
> (version 1.1).
> I built peer-to-peer operation into the client  on request of the NBEMS guys, 
> but they lost interest in pskmail so I stopped putting effort into that.
> You will see that TTY is greyed out in the Mode menu.
>
> THOR22 is a perfect mode for keyboard-to-keyboard operation, you don't 
> normally need ARQ for that.
> If there is a lot of interest from users I might also build TTY and p-to-p 
> file transfer  into the java client. Most ops use
> jpskmail for messaging, email, web access and HF APRS messaging and 
> downloading WX charts while mobile.
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R

[digitalradio] PSK Reporter and PSK250 reports ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

I do not see PSK250 among the list of "modes" that one can select in
PSK Reporter .  Does anyone know if it can be done ?  It would be
useful to spot PSKMAIL server propagation, especially since FLdigi can
be configured to send to PSK Reporter.

-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ANNOUNCE: PocketDigi 1.0.12 released

[Andrew O'Brien]

When I load it on my PC (Windows) the waterfall does not have anything in
it, not even static.  When I press transmit, the PSK tones are heard via USB
speakers that are NOT the default soundcard.  Not a big deal Vojtech, I will
eventually solve the issue.  Anyone used PocketDigi on a Blackberry ?

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Vojtech  wrote:

>
>
> > How do I select a sound card? Using it on my PC, I am not receiving any
> signals in the waterfall , probably because I have not selected a sound
> source.
>
> Hi Andy.
>
> PocketDigi uses the default sound card. There is no selection.
>
> The UI is spartan as it was designed for the Pocket PC platform. The "big"
> windows version was written mostly as a testbed for the Pocket PC version.
> It is much easier to develop on the PC first and then just recompile for the
> Pocket PC. On the other side, the application is tiny and very CPU and
> memory efficient. It will provide basic communication means with most
> digital modes on most Windows boxes. It will run pretty well even on the
> first Pentium ~150MHz laptops.
>
> 73, Vojtech OK1IAK
>

Re: [digitalradio] jPSKMAIL " update record"

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Rein.  I did have the email setting in there and pressed the
"update server " , perhaps WB5CON did not receive it.  I will try
again today with some European servers this morning.

Andy K3UK


>
> In the edit->preferences->email settings menu you can enter the data for your 
> mail account. For pop (mail download) the
> server needs pop server, userid and password. For outgoing mail the smtp 
> server needs your reply address.
> Update by connecting the server and hitting the 'update server' button. The 
> server will reply with
> 'updated record for CALL'. Data record sent to the server is not readable.
> If the record is valid next connect the server will not ask again for your 
> record. It checks the validity of the
> pop data by performing a 'new mail' check on connect. If that fails (e.g. if 
> you did not enable pop on your gmail accont)
> it will nag you again next time.
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>

Re: [digitalradio] Propagation

[Andrew O'Brien]

and (to add to John's point) I am being heard with a $15 home brewed antenna
on 20M, it does not take much to be heard with these digital modes.  I am
also regularly heard in Europe each morning via JT65A.  In the mornings, I
do as John is suggesting, ride the grayline.  My best visual view of grey
line propagation was in the old days of HF APRS when I set a receiving and
map on 30M.  All day I was receiving joust 200-500 miles and then , all of a
sudden, 1700-3000 miles...just for an hour or so,  It may be one thing to
test prop with weak signal modes like JT65A  but realistically ALE400 and
modes like  Olivia and THOR take a little more signal for useful rag-chews.
It would be interesting to play around with maps and things in Multipsk and
see if we can plot grey line activity and signal levels.

Andy K3UK

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 12:33 AM, John Bradley  wrote:

>
>
>  I’ve been thinking, which is always a dangerous occupation
>
>
>
> Consistently I am able to work K2MO in Long Island,NY. by consistently I
> mean daily. This is a 2600km path, open all afternnon
>
>
>
> I regularly hear K6dww also a 2300km path and also CO2JA, Jose which is a
> 3700km path.  whenever Any K3UK comes up, I can hear him as well.
>
>
>
> All this is on 20M between 12PM noon CDT and about 6PM …. start of Grey
> line. It would be interesting to see who can copy whom on 14106.
>
>
>
> With Tony’s help I have mastered RSID so my station will respond to either
> ALE400 or 141A readily. Give it a shot or give a listen see who is out there
>
>
>
> John
>
> VE5MU
>

[digitalradio] PSKMAIL tests tonight ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Anyone want to test jPSKMAIl tonight?  I will be reading helps files
(heavens forbid!) since it seems I need to do a few things more, from
WB5CON today I received..
"Hi K3UK, pse update your record".  Off to find out how to do this.
Also looking for some non-server tests.

-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Active PSKMAIL ? Frequency

[Andrew O'Brien]

I'm confused about the correct frequency for WB5CON, the PSKMAIL web site says.


Which PSKmailservers can I use?
(Center Frequencies : Display -1kHz all USB, example 10148Khz = 10147KHz!)

but the old mail below says " VFO + 1000 Hz if your
> sweet spot is 1000 Hz."

Assuming a 'sweet spot" of 1000 Hz. will I find WB5CON on 10147 on my
dial or 10148 ?



Andy K3UK

On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Rein Couperus  wrote:
> Makes a lot of sense Hal...
>
> You find the frequency/mode  table at:
> http://pskmail.wikispaces.com/PSKmailservers
>
> All frequencies in that table are center frequencies, i.e. VFO + 1000 Hz if 
> your
> sweet spot is 1000 Hz.
>
> Here is an excerpt, the sacanning frequencies are at the bottom (minutes 
> 0...4):
>  PI4TUE       NETHERLANDS 00:00 - 00:00 10.148,25 0,4          psk250
>  SM0RWO       SWEDEN      00:00 - 00:00 Scanning  1,3,4        psk250
>  VE7SUN       CANADA      00:00 - 00:00 10.148.25 3            psk250
>  WB5CON       USA         00:00 - 00:00 Scanning  0,1,2        psk250
>  IS0GRB-3     ITALY       00:00 - 00:00 10.148,25 0-4          psk250
>  KD5WDQ       USA         00:00 - 00:00 10.148    3            psk250
>  KD4QCL       USA         00:00 - 00:00 Scanning  3,4          psk250
>  DK4XI-0      GERMANY     00:00 - 00:00 10148,0   0            psk250
>  DK4XI-2      GERMANY     00:00 - 00:00 14.078,0  0            psk250
>  DK4XI-3      GERMANY     00:00 - 00:00 10.147.70 0            psk250
>  DK4XI-4     GERMANY     00:00 - 00:00 7038.0    0            psk250
>  DK4XI-8     GERMANY     00:00 - 00:00 3588.0    0            psk250
> SM0RWO 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 14078.00 3588.00
> PI4TUE 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.75
> IS0GRB-3 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25 10148.25
> VK2ETA 3625.00 7033.00 7234.00 10124.00 144750.00
> WB5CON 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00
> KD4QCL 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00 10148.00
>
> The best cahnce of hearing a server is on the top of the hour (minutes 0 ... 
> 4).
>
> 73,
>
> Rein PA0R
>
> PS If you can always contact the sysops via the mailing list. to make a sked.
>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: "Hal" 
>> Gesendet: 19.09.08 01:02:53
>> An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>> Betreff: Re: [digitalradio] Active PSKMAIL ?
>
>
>>
>> Collecting and learning all I can about PSKMail, I find some loose ends
>> at this point and was wondering if this is the proper site:
>>
>> Viewing pskmailers.php I see the suppressed carrier frequency missing
>> from some entries.. Can I presume that, in my case, 10.148 USB is
>> proper? I see no reference to the audio offset frequency and if "psk250"
>> is BPSK250 or QPSK250??
>>
>> I monitored 10.148.000 for a few hours around 1700Z and heard/saw some
>> short bursts but got no valid decoding, using FLDigi3.02/Slackware12.1..
>>
>> I have the Puppy4 CD working but thought I had better try the above
>> first.. The rig receives and decodes BPSK31 fine on both 30M and 20M
>> that I've tried so far.. Hope this makes sense.. HI..
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>> --
>>
>>         Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCH    UNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3
>> .
>>
>> 
>>
>> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
>> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>>
>> 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m
>>
>> Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI.
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> http://pa0r.blogspirit.com
>
> 
>
> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>
> 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m
>
> Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI.
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Using TS2000, D700A and Sky Command for digital modes ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

But Danny, why do that is you don't have to?

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 7:58 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS  wrote:

>
>
> Goodness,  how far away is the repeater?  I nonomally hit repeatrs at
> 60-100 miles away with the hand held antenna here in the shack, in the
> basement.  Putting a small verticle up on the roof, attached to the vent
> pipe usually works well.
>
>
>
> 
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thank you Dave.

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:39 AM, David  wrote:

>
>
> The next version of fldigi supports the RSID decoder as a background
> operation, allowing the current modem to continue operating both in receive
> and transmit.
>
> 73, Dave, W1HKJ
>
>
> 
>

Re: [digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode

[Andrew O'Brien]

It IS UNCHECKED but symptom persist.., no decode when RS ID box is checked.
Should I leave BOTH unchecked ?  I have had it working well in the past.



On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Andrew O'Brien wrote:

> Thanks, that makes sense now?
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> From the beginners' guide at w1hkj.com (Bold and underline added by me)
>>
>> 3.5.2. Other controls
>>
>

Re: [digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks, that makes sense now?

Andy



On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Dave  wrote:

>
>
> From the beginners' guide at w1hkj.com (Bold and underline added by me)
>
> 3.5.2. Other controlsRSID
> This button turns on the receive RSID (automatic mode detection and tuning)
> feature. *When in use, the button turns yellow and no text reception is
> possible until a signal is identified, or the feature is turned off again*.
> If you plan to use the RSID feature on receive, you must leave the *Start
> New Modem at Sweet Spot* item in the menu Configure->Defaults->Misc tab
> unchecked.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
> hfradio...@gmail.com
>
> Real radio bounces off the sky
>
>
>
> On 4 Oct, at 3:03 PM, Andrew O'Brien wrote:
>
>
>
> While checking in to a regional NBEMS net today using both Multipsk
> and FLDIGI, I noticed FLDIGI in 8/500 Olivia would NOT decode at all
> if the RS ID box in the upper right-hand corner of FLDIGI was
> checked. It decoded fine when unchecked.
>
> --
> Andy K3UK
>
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] RS ID with FLDIGI stops decode

[Andrew O'Brien]

While checking in to a regional NBEMS net today using both Multipsk
and FLDIGI, I noticed FLDIGI in 8/500 Olivia would NOT decode at all
if the RS ID  box in the upper right-hand corner of FLDIGI was
checked.  It decoded fine when unchecked.



-- 
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Twitter in jPSKMAIL?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks per, now I understand.  Cool!

Andy K3UK


On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:04 AM, Per  wrote:

>
>
> Yes.
> It used to be connected to your twitter account through the messagedance
> service. You could send updates and get your incoming tweets.
> But, you had to have a messagedance account enabled. In the new version we
> will instead just curl the updates and bypass the need for a messagedance
> account.
>

Re: [digitalradio] Why so much interest in WINMOR?

[Andrew O'Brien]

I think, not sure, that a majority of WINMOR testers are NOT experienced
digital mode operators.  By that I mean they may be RTTY or PSK31 operators
but mostly come from the packet/pactor world.  I am thus guessing that many
are not familiar with other  ARQ modes.  This is based, in part,  on several
comments that I have seen from beta testers of WINMOR.  Several have been
"turned on to ALE 400 " by ALE junkies like VE5MU and K2MO.

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds

[Andrew O'Brien]

I will be attempting to set up Email via ALE400 tonight.  Andy K3UK

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, John Bradley  wrote:

>
>
>  tried just now (2200UTC) nothing yet. Ve5EOC and VE5MU both listening
>
>
>
> John
>
> VE5MU
>
>
>
> *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Tony
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2009 3:41 PM
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] ALE-400 Skeds
>
>
>
>
>
> All,
>
>
>
> I'll be QRV ALE-400 in the evenings on 20 meters. My station will not be
> left unattended so please see Andy's sked page for activity. Skeds welcome
> via email @ d...@otponline.net
>
>
>
> QRG - 14106.0 USB DIAL
>
>
>
> Testing - ALE-400 sounding / connects / chat mode QSO / mail transfers.
>
>
>
> Sked Page - http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
>
>
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>   
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI

[Andrew O'Brien]

Skip, there is no TS2000 XML file for RIGCAT.  I'll play around some more.
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI

[Andrew O'Brien]

HAMLIB

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM, kh6ty  wrote:

>
>
> Andy are you using fldigi for rig control?
>
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: What's up with FLDIGI

[Andrew O'Brien]

I just did this again but it then wants me to configure all over again.  I
configured all over again, after 10 seconds (or less) of working and
displaying rig frequency, FLDIGI closes.

Andy K3UK

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:58 AM, kh6ty  wrote:

>
>
> Without fldigi running, you can also just search for fldigi.files, delete
> fldigi_def.xml and fldigi.prefs, and then run fldigi, but I guess you have
> already done that since it is now working. Anytime you reinstall fldigi it
> is best to delete fldigi_def.xml and fldigi.prefs before running the new
> version.
>
> 73 Skip KH6TY
>
>
> obrienaj wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Skip, all is well now.
> Andy
>
>
> --
> *Skip KH6TY*
> http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net
>  
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Winmor Path Simulaitons

[Andrew O'Brien]

I wonder the same thing.  I heard a long PACTOR exchange near 7080 last
night when you were linked to someone via WINMOR.  I was wondering how they
were doing compered to you..  In fact I even thought of getting out an old
TNC that has Pactor 1 on it to give it a try, but thought of wiring up 13
and 8 pin DIN connectors put me off.



Andy K3UK




On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:17 AM, aa777888athotmaildotcom <
aa777...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com , Tony
>  wrote:
> >
> >
>
> I would be interested to know what those who have a lot of high-end packet
> experience (not me) like Pactor 3 think of Winmor. Sadly I bet anyone with a
> high-end packet TNC probably won't bother :-)
>
> k*b*l*0*0*q
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Winmor Path Simulaitons

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Tony.  Your caveats aside, a mode that performs about the same as
PSK63 for a connect but then appears to have worse performance during
message transfers is not very promising.  Hopefully they can get to around
MFSK16 performance as things are tweaked.

Andy K3UK


On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:58 AM, Tony  wrote:

>
>
> All,
>
> For what it's worth, I ran Winmor "connect request" signals through Moe
> Wheatley's path simulator. These tests are usually pretty good indicators of
> how digital modes perform and compare over a real HF channel.
>
> That said, the results of these tests may not reflect Winmors real
> potential so take them with a grain of salt. Running the path simulator on
> the same PC as I did with a mode that's sensitive to sound card
> performance and CPU usage is probably not the best for optimum results.
>
> I haven't figured out a way to test Winmor other than the "connect request"
> PSK mode so these tests are at best, a glimpse of what to expect
> when connecting with other stations under a variety of conditions; sound
> card issues aside.
>
> I should point out that some of these HF path simulations are severe with
> enough signal distortion to make one slow to a snails pace, even on CW!
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference(A dissent)

[Andrew O'Brien]

but why can't W1AW listen first and NOT xmit if busy?

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Bill V WA7NWP  wrote:

>
>
> > Maybe I haven't been paying attention, but what is it that
> > makes 3580 a sacred gathering place for PSK? Why isn't it
> > 070 like it is on some other bands? Why can't we just QSY
> > to get away from W1AW?
>
> Many home brew low power rigs, psk included, use the standard and very
> cheap 3.579 TV color burst crystal.
>
> 73
> Bill
>
> 
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Anyone for WINMOR/FLARQ/ALE tests this weekend ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Well my HD just crashed this morning, so hopefully I'll get a spare working
so I can partcipate.  Otherwise it'll be just FLARQ from Linux boot disc.
Third HD crash in the past 4 months, getting annoying.

Andy K3UK

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:00 AM, rich3x  wrote:

>
>
> Yes, count me in: but I'll be using ALE400.
> "callsign
> band
> grid" ..sounds like a thinly veiled contest! Let's have at it. And I
> suppose you are collecting and compiling the results?
>
> de Rich/N2JR
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
> "obrienaj"  wrote:
> >
> > I think it would be fun to try a test of simple message exchanges on
> 40,30, 20 meters this weekend to compare WINMOR, FLARQ and ALE (standard and
> 400) .
> >
> > It be be useful to have a group of us that can connect and try a message
> in all four formats .
> >
> > I would propose the message simply be
> >
> > Mr. Watson--come here--I want to see you.
> > Callsign
> > band
> > grid locator.
> >
> > Anyone willing to try ?
> >
> > Software needed: RMS EXPRESS, FLDIGI, Multipsk (or PC-ALE for standard
> ALE).
> >
> > Recommend no more than 100 watts .
> >
> > Andy K3UK
> >
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] What's up with FLDIGI

[Andrew O'Brien]

With lots of WINMOR testing taking place, I decided to load up FLDIGI
today and  compare its ARQ capabilities.  However, my recent fresh
download and install of FLDIGI crashes within 10 seconds of booting.

EventType : BEX P1 : fldigi.exe P2 : 0.0.0.0 P3 : 4a6cce2a
P4 : mswsock.dll P5 : 5.1.2600.5625 P6 : 485bed11 P7 : 2c61
P8 : c409 P9 : 

I saw some mention of FLdigi errors a few weeks ago but did not pay a
lot of attention.  I had previously had FLdogi working fine on my old
PC.



-- 
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: An open letter: W1AW and 80m psk31 interference

[Andrew O'Brien]

I have found it frustrating when I am on that freq and THEN they start up.
I wish they would simply QSY when the freq appears busy.

Andy K3UK



On 9/22/09, frankk2ncc  wrote:
>
>
>
> That sounds like a very reasonable request. Well written and good job!
>
> f, k2ncc
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Come Here Watson

[Andrew O'Brien]

Message ID: NDTTDN5FRWGW
Date: 2009/09/19 13:11
From: KI4MTB
To: K3UK
Source: KI4MTB
Subject: //WL2K Test

Test from KI4MTB

-- 


Yeah, my first HF message from RMS Express via WINMOR .
7080

Thanks KI4MTB!

** Disconnected at 2009/09/19 13:15:39
[Session Stats:]   Duration: 4.61 min
   Bandwidth: 500Mode Shifts:   0
   Decode Attempts:   17
   Weak R-S Decodes :  17Weak R-S Sums:  0
   Strong R-S Decodes: 0 Strong R-S Sums:0
   Bytes Sent :   246Bytes Received:249
   Thuput(bytes/min): 107

Now 17 decode attempts to exchange about 500 bytes over 5 minutes
with a S5 signal is nothing to write home about, but I'll take it for
a start.


Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] K3UK Sked Pages for coordinating WINMOR beta testing

[Andrew O'Brien]

Ian, simply a visual cue that indicates the person in smaller letters has
not posted in at least the last 10 minutes and may not be at their keyboard.

Andy K3UK

On 9/19/09, Ian Wade G3NRW  wrote:
>
>
>
> From: Andrew O'Brien >
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> On your digital sked page, in the "Users on Now" section, what is the
> significance of some callsigns being in small characters and some in
> large?
>
> --
> 73
> Ian, G3NRW
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] K3UK Sked Pages for coordinating WINMOR beta testing

[Andrew O'Brien]

FYI, the digitalradio section of the K3UK Sked Pages has been busy
with up to 10 connected stations trying WINMOR..  The sked page may be
useful to those trying WINMOR "QSOs" over the weekend.  Conenct via

http://www.obriensweb.com/sked and choose the digitalradio tab.

Suggested calling frequencies: For WINMOR testing suggested dial
frequencies 3587 , 7080,10136, 14112, 18107 ,

-- 
Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] WINMOR FINALLY IN BETA

[Andrew O'Brien]

Forwarded from WINMOR group

de Rick Muething, KN6KB


WINMOR enthusiasts,

OK the install file is on the yahoo WINMOR group site as well as the
instructions and goals for the beta program. I'm sure there are still subtle
bugs (maybe some not so subtle!) but we have done some extensive
over-the-air testing with the previous 32 alpha versions. The help file is
included in the install and while it may not win any literary prizes it is
pretty complete and accurate. During the next few weeks there will likely be
many updates (Your program should auto update if you are connected to the
internet and haven't blocked all the WINMOR ports). Let's focus on the
basics now and not get bogged down in creeping features.

Good luck to you beta testers. Remember I don't do this full time (though
it seems like time and a half this last month!) but I will try and get back
to answer your questions. I hope someone can suggest some frequencies to
try for our initial over the air tests.

My station KN6KB is on 18107 USB dial (18108.5 Center frequency) set up for
500 Hz WINMOR. (but the band has been dead the last several days!)

Thank you for your patience and a special thanks to Vic W5SMM for his
programming efforts and RF testing help and to Tad WA1FQO and Neil VE1YZ for
the tireless help during over the air alpha testing.

Let's roll,

73,

Rick Muething, KN6KB
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] 20M RS ID mode hunt, outcome

[Andrew O'Brien]

Phil, I am hearing u in THOR, loud and clear but cannot reply due to FLdigi
not working

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Phil Williams  wrote:

>
>
> Andrew...very nice work.
>
> philw de ka1gmn
>
> 2009/9/17 Andrew O'Brien 
>
>
>>
>> VFO 14072.73 , 3kHZ filter/waterfall. Vertical ground plane antenna
>> Location FN02hk (Western NY state)
>> RS ID "continuous"
>>
>> 17/9/2009
>>
>> 20:08:03 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3682 Hz
>> 19:25:37 UTC MFSK8 2266 Hz
>> 19:23:48 UTC OLIVIA-8-500 2266 Hz
>> 19:09:35 UTC MFSK8 2255 Hz
>> 19:05:08 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250 2255 Hz
>> 19:03:14 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2255 Hz
>> 19:00:54 UTC RTTYM-4-250 2261 Hz
>> 18:59:19 UTC RTTYM-8-125 2261 Hz
>> 18:56:30 UTC FELD HELL 2261 Hz
>> 16:50:09 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3499 Hz
>> 16:39:55 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3509 Hz
>> 16:36:05 UTC MFSK16 3509 Hz
>> 16:34:48 UTC MFSK16 3499 Hz
>> 16:24:45 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 2686 Hz
>> 16:16:49 UTC MFSK16 2998 Hz
>> 14:15:22 UTC FELD HELL 1604 Hz
>> 14:06:24 UTC FELD HELL 1609 Hz
>> 14:05:05 UTC FELD HELL 1222 Hz
>>
>> --
>> Andy
>>
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] 20M RS ID mode hunt, outcome

[Andrew O'Brien]

VFO 14072.73 , 3kHZ filter/waterfall.  Vertical ground plane  antenna
Location FN02hk (Western NY state)
RS ID "continuous"

17/9/2009

20:08:03 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3682 Hz
19:25:37 UTC MFSK8 2266 Hz
19:23:48 UTC OLIVIA-8-500  2266 Hz
19:09:35 UTC MFSK8 2255 Hz
19:05:08 UTC CONTESTIA-4-250   2255 Hz
19:03:14 UTC RTTYM-4-250   2255 Hz
19:00:54 UTC RTTYM-4-250   2261 Hz
18:59:19 UTC RTTYM-8-125   2261 Hz
18:56:30 UTC FELD HELL 2261 Hz
16:50:09 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3499 Hz
16:39:55 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 3509 Hz
16:36:05 UTC MFSK163509 Hz
16:34:48 UTC MFSK163499 Hz
16:24:45 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 2686 Hz
16:16:49 UTC MFSK162998 Hz
14:15:22 UTC FELD HELL 1604 Hz
14:06:24 UTC FELD HELL 1609 Hz
14:05:05 UTC FELD HELL 1222 Hz


-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Anybody On Tonight?

[Andrew O'Brien]

3582



On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:42 PM, r_lwesterfield <
r_lwesterfi...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>
>  Where is everybody hanging out?
>
>
>
> Rick – KH2DF/W5
>
> 
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] QRV ALE-400 14074.0 - SKEDS PSE!

[Andrew O'Brien]

ALso QRV 14074, new version.

On 9/12/09, Tony  wrote:
>
>
>
> All,
>
> Patrick released a new ALE-400 test version that uses RSID to resynchronize
> after a certain number (3) of retries. This feature should work well to
> correct out-of-sync problems that happen on occasion when signals are weak.
>
> I worked W2KI/M from his motor home in Colorado today and it seems there
> may be a bug; I'd appreciate a sked tonight on 20 meters (14074.0) so we can
> let Patrick know if the latest release is working ok.
>
> I'm QRV as of 2345z on 14074.0 USB. I'll be there all evening.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] 30M RS-ID pings

[Andrew O'Brien]

30M RS-ID pings heard on 30M from 2230 to 0240 UTC.   Seven different
modes ,  Chip64 lives!

Andy K3UK

02:41:30 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1453 Hz
02:31:46 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1458 Hz
02:11:23 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  1254 Hz
02:10:54 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  1238 Hz
02:10:31 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  1345 Hz
02:10:02 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  1248 Hz
02:09:32 UTC CONTESTIA-16-500  1275 Hz
00:49:58 UTC BPSK311475 Hz
00:49:11 UTC BPSK311491 Hz
00:48:22 UTC BPSK31931 Hz
00:48:17 UTC BPSK311507 Hz
00:47:20 UTC BPSK311501 Hz
00:45:48 UTC BPSK311507 Hz
00:08:36 UTC BPSK311528 Hz
23:49:57 UTC BPSK631491 Hz
23:46:29 UTC BPSK311103 Hz
23:42:07 UTC BPSK31619 Hz
23:27:25 UTC CHIP-64   1846 Hz
23:25:17 UTC PSK220F   1846 Hz
23:23:01 UTC BPSK63446 Hz
22:35:32 UTC OLIVIA-16-500 1717 Hz
22:33:05 UTC BPSK63974 Hz
22:31:59 UTC BPSK125   1415 Hz


-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: SDR-Radio.com

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Ed, I will have to take another look at their web page, looks
interesting.

Andy K3UK

On 9/7/09, ed_hekman  wrote:
>
>
>
> Andy,
>
> I built a Softrock RXTX V6.3 earlier this year. It does take some reading
> to understand what is offered and what is required/available for each kit.
> It is not really a business - the guys design the radios and offer the kits
> for little more than the cost of the parts. I think it is mostly the work of
> Tony Parks, KB9YIG. Limited runs are made of each kit depending on the
> interest.
>
> Briefly here is what is "available":
> - Softrock Lite II - single band receiver
> - IF Special Softrock Lite - IF panadapter kit - You specify the IF
> frequency of your radio.
> - Softrock V9.0 Lite - All band receiver with plugin front end filters for
> each band. Also includes an Si570 digital VFO that can be controlled through
> a USB port or 1 of 16 preprogrammed frequencies can be selected with 4 dip
> switches. There is also an electronically switched BPF filter board and a
> 6M/2M converter kit available for this receiver.
> - Softrock RXTX V6.3 transceiver - All band transceiver with 4 sets of
> plugin BPF modules/PAs to cover all bands from 160 to 10 meters. Output
> power is less than 1 watt. This includes the Si570 digital VFO with 16
> preprogrammed frequencies. A USB to I2C converter is available to control
> the Si570 VFO through a USB port. Other people offer stand-alone controllers
> for the Si570. I bought the one from Kees, K5BCQ (
> http://www.qsl.net/k5bcq/Kits/Kits.html). There was a motherboard (MoBo
> 3.6) for it that held the PA and all the BPF modules and had electronic
> switching but that is no longer available. The next version, MoBo 4.3, will
> be available later this year. Others offer PAs to boost the power up to 5
> watts, 20 - 40 watts or even 100 watts.
>
> Software that I am aware of includes:
> - Rocky 3.6 - Transceiver with PSK capability - single line text display,
> no macros or logging but it is the easiest to set up. I made several PSK
> QSOs with Rocky.
> - SDRadio - receive only
> - WinRad - receive only
> - KGKSDR - transceiver - I couldn't get this to work.
> - PowerSDR from Flex-Radio - The most powerful and complex to set up.
> - MultiPSK - It has an SDR front-end. This can do all the MultiPSK digital
> modes with an SDR radio.
>
> I hope this helps relieve a little of the confusion.
>
> Ed
> WB6YTE
>

[digitalradio] Talking JT65A via Multipsk

[Andrew O'Brien]

Just a reminder, with Multipsk and in JT65 modes, try clicking on the
VOCALIZATION button.  With that pressed (and your speakers on)  when
your software decodes

14:447  -09  1 +0244  CQ VA6SZ DO33  D=2757 Km (1713 mil.) Az=308°

The CQ VA6SZ  DO33 part will be spoken aloud ...  you can be in the
next room and find out who is calling.

My shack is quite active today. Multipsk just announced  VA6SZ calling
and Joe DX in Spotcollector is letting me know via voice announcement
Malta is on 17M RTTY.

-- 
Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Fwd: [dxlab] DXKeeper 8.1.6 enhancement for LOTW and some digital modes

[Andrew O'Brien]

FYI

-- Forwarded message --
From: aa6yq 
Date: Sep 6, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [dxlab] DXKeeper 8.1.6 is available
To: dx...@yahoogroups.com



This release

- when synchronizing QSOs or QSLs with LotW, QSOs reported by LotW whose
Mode is DATA are considered to match a logged QSO whose mode "counts" as
RTTY for ARRL awards (tnx to Bob WU9Q)

- updates the AwardInfo.htm, index.htm, Log.htm, LogCompletedMain.htm,
LogNewCapture.htm, LogNewMain.htm, ModifyLog.htm, Progress.htm, QSL.htm,
Scripts.htm, and ViewEditLog.htm documentation files

If your are uploading digital mode QSOs to LotW where the digital mode is
not yet supported by LotW (e.g. JT65A), configure TQSL to "map" these
unsupported digital modes to DATA. The above enhancement allows DXKeeper to
locate these QSOs in your log when directed to synchronize with LotW;
previously, DXKeeper would report such QSOs as not matching any logged QSO
because of the change in mode introduced by TQSL.

DXKeeper 8.1.6 is available via the DXLab Launcher and via



73,

Dave, AA6YQ

 


-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] SDR-Radio.com

[Andrew O'Brien]

So, I have to get me one of them SDR radios.  Just what is the deal with
Softrock, are they for purchase commonly?  The web page is awfully
confusing, makes it looks like they are not fully in business.  Genesis
SDR's look promising but still very early in their deveopment at the
moment..  FLEX ,  too many Euros for my budget.

Andy K3UK

On 9/6/09, Simon (HB9DRV)  wrote:
>
>
>
> SDR-RADIO.com is a SDR console - connect a SDR radio such as the SoftRock
> receiver and you can receive 160m to 10m, at least 100kHz bandwidth at a
> time.
>
> Not just a receiver - it will decode CW (similar to CW skimmer), monitor
> for
> RSID / CALLID, do lots of other great things (tm) which are still t.b.a.
> Once I get it available you'll see what I mean.
>
> Later it will support TX using SDR as well.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrew O'Brien" >
>
> > Since this integrates with DM780, what does the software actually "do"
> > ? I assume that HRD and DM780 do all the work, so is it essentially
> > just a 10 kHZ waterfall?
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] SDR-Radio.com

[Andrew O'Brien]

Since this integrates with DM780, what does the software actually "do"
?  I assume that HRD and DM780 do all the work, so is it essentially
just a 10 kHZ waterfall?

Andy K3UK

On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Simon (HB9DRV) wrote:
>
>
> Hi Andy,
>
> I'm getting on with my SDR console: http://sdr-radio.com - this console can
> monitor an entire band for RSID :)
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "obrienaj" 
>
>> Today I am simply scanning 14070, 14073, 14076, and 14107.5 in 5 second
>> intervals (all VFO frequencies) . I am in no particular mode, but DO
>> have RS ID detect active. If I hear your RS ID within 3 kHz of where I am
>> scanning, I will receive an audible alert. Try calling CQ with RS ID
>> enabled at the beginning of your CQ and see if I hear you while scanning.
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC

[Andrew O'Brien]

I ran such a cluster for a few years , before I opened the "sked
page".  I was running WinCluster.  I do have the bandwidth to run a
cluster again but want to avoid the cost of some of the better cluster
software.  It would need to be a digital cluster that does not
propagate spots to other clusters.   Either that or have something
like Hamspots' present cluster/pskreporter page configurable via
Telnet to Spotcollector.  That way, digital mode enthusiasts could
take full advantage of Spotcollector's filters and collect from
Hamspots PLUS the general DX Cluster world

Andy K3UK


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:30 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS wrote:
>
>
> That me be true, but I have seen several  stateside MFSK and many PSK spots
> on the clusters.  The next thought is a "digital cluster" which could be
> used with spot collector?  Those that then wanted "any" digital modes/states
> or otherwise, could load that one up and see the spots, and they would not
> particular leak out to other clusters.  I simply do not have room on the
> screen for even more windows.
>
>
>
>  Danny Douglas
> N7DC
> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>
> All 2 years or more (except Novice)
> Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
> I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
> those who do.
>
> Moderator
> DXandTALK
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
> dxandt...@yahoogroups.com
>
> Moderator
> Digital_modes
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
>
> Danny Douglas
> N7DC
> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>
> All 2 years or more (except Novice)
> Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
> I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
> those who do.
>
> Moderator
> DXandTALK
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
> dxandt...@yahoogroups.com
>
> Moderator
> Digital_modes
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Andrew O'Brien
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 7:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
>
>
> Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted. I have always
> assumed, perhaps wrongly, that "serious DXers" and cluster owners
> frown on something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really
> "DX". Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode
> , I would not spot you on a real DX cluster. If you were ET2US I
> would spot you, not N7DC. If we all started spotting routine
> callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector
> would indeed be the best tool.
>
> Andy
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where is "there" Tony?  HI.
>> And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using
>> SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not
>> like they just disappear on this end.  Looks like the special digital
>> modes
>> simply are not being passed thru the network.
>>
>> Danny Douglas
>> N7DC
>> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
>> SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>>
>> All 2 years or more (except Novice)
>> Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
>> I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
>> those who do.
>>
>> Moderator
>> DXandTALK
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
>> dxandt...@yahoogroups.com
>>
>> Moderator
>> Digital_modes
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Tony
>> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
>>
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>>> What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this
>>> group,
>>> why I am not seeing > ANY of them on the spot network?  I would gladly
>>> give
>>> some of them a listen, if they showed up
>>> Danny Douglas N7DC
>>
>> That's a good question...
>>
>> I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some
>> over
>> the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less
>> than
>> stellar.
>>
>> I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's
>> permission)
>> for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience
>> is
>> much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared
>> toward digital.
>>
>> Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it
>> sees
>> little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we
>> have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>>
>> I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours.
>>
>> Tony -K2MO
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Andy
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC

[Andrew O'Brien]

Danny, I think they are not being posted/spotted.  I have always
assumed, perhaps wrongly, that  "serious DXers" and cluster owners
frown on  something like K3UK spotting N7DC because you are not really
"DX".  Thus even though you might be using an interesting digital mode
, I would not spot you on a real DX cluster.  If you were ET2US I
would spot you, not N7DC.  If we all started spotting routine
callsigns and their digital modes on a regular cluster, Spotcollector
would indeed be the best tool.

Andy


On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:16 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS wrote:
>
>
> Where is "there" Tony?  HI.
> And I have, on average, 3 sites gathering spots here, and using
> SpotCollector which has almost every mode known to man, listed, so its not
> like they just disappear on this end.  Looks like the special digital modes
> simply are not being passed thru the network.
>
> Danny Douglas
> N7DC
> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>
> All 2 years or more (except Novice)
> Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
> I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
> those who do.
>
> Moderator
> DXandTALK
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
> dxandt...@yahoogroups.com
>
> Moderator
> Digital_modes
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Tony
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400 N7DC
>
>
> Danny,
>
>> What I dont understand, with all the reported contacts here on this group,
>> why I am not seeing > ANY of them on the spot network?  I would gladly give
>> some of them a listen, if they showed up
>> Danny Douglas N7DC
>
> That's a good question...
>
> I've noticed 'exotic mode' cluster spots on occasion and I've sent some over
> the years with Mixw's DX Cluster feature. The response is usually less than
> stellar.
>
> I use this reflector on occasion to spot QRV notes (with Andy's permission)
> for the purpose of testing less familiar modes like ALE-400. The audience is
> much smaller than the clusters, but it's members are of course, geared
> toward digital.
>
> Andy's sked page is perfect for digital mode skeds / QRV posts, but it sees
> little use. I can't figure out why that is with the number of members we
> have. http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>
> I'm there now at 2250z if you'd like to sked. I'll be on for a few hours.
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
> 



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] New "sked request" feature on Sked Page

[Andrew O'Brien]

After a little brain storming between myself, Joe N8FQ, and Laurie
VK3AMA, I have added a "sked request" feature to the K3UK Sked Page at
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked. The "digitalradio" sked page can
be accessed by clicking on the digitalradio tab/link.  The Sked
Request link is fairly self-explanatory, try it if you want to test
some digital modes.

Thanks to Joe NF8Q for his creative coding

Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Just back from holiday, which version do I need for PSK-packet?  I am
running 4.15 and do not see it.

Andy K3UK

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:46 AM,  wrote:
>
>
> MultiPSK... and its Packet but using BPSK63/250 instead of 300b FSK
> Trip - KT4WO
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Phil Williams
> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] PSK-PACKET anyone?
> What app are you running for this mode?
>
> philw de ka1gmn kn
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:57 PM,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone up for some PSK-PACKET?? 63b
>>
>> on 10.141.5 1650hz
>> 21:00 Easttime
>>
>> Trip - KT4WO
>>
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Digital sked page: New ideas ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Hi Sholto, I am just back from holiday and saw your post.  Your
question has been one that has been on my mind recently, I am not sure
what can be done to add interest.  The SKCC and LOTW sked pages are
often very busy but the interest in the sked page for digital mode
skeds seems to be dwindling.  I saw no increase when the hamspots page
was down for a month.  I thought the nice new design and link to
PSKreporter at hamspots would bring lots of users to hamspots and make
my sked page even less used, however Hamspots can go many hours
without a spot too (except PSkreporter ).  I think it may be time for
something new to spice things up but I am not sure what that is for
the digital mode enthusiasts.  Joe and I have added as many
interesting features to the sked page as we can think off.  I still
think some form of integration of PSKreporter might be useful although
I am not sure how to add that...yet.  Something like the
auto-reporting module you wrote for Multispk and your old spotting
page might be useful too.  Ideally, some easy form of  "my rig is
tuned to" would be of help but perhaps one that is not dependent on a
particular piece of software, something that reports your frequency
and mode "live" to a webpage regardless of whether you are using
Multipsk, DM780, Winwarbler, FLdigi, or other applications.
Reporting what you hear would also be interesting if it could be
filtered to prevent endless reports of the same station in a mundane
mode.  Spotcollector still appears, to me, to be the most useful spot
related system.  I'm not sure what would be best, creating something
that could take data filtered FROM Spotcollector and automatically
posted to a "sked page" for digital modes, or creating a system where
data is SENT  to a digital mode only cluster that would interface with
Spotcollector and end users could customize as they wish.  Perhaps we
can get a few comments .

Andy K3UK

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Sholto Fisher wrote:
>
>
> Just wondered why there are so few spots on Andy's sked page recently?
>
> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
>
> also I am QRV on 14074 with RS-ID and CALL ID monitoring.
>
> 73 Sholto
> K7TMG
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] WINMOR

[Andrew O'Brien]

WINMOR is still several months from initial release.  WINLINK is easy
and you do not need HF to use it, your can use it without Pactor via
VHF (Packet) or via the Internet abd the Telnet client.

Andy K3UK

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Tim N9PUZ wrote:
>
>
> I do not think an actual price has been mentioned but I recall the
> idea is just for the development team to partially fund some needed
> test equipment for future projects. An example mentioned a while back
> was "under $50" but I do not recall if that was from someone on the
> development team or not.
>
> With all they provide free of charge I expect that if it is not free
> it will be affordable for anyone who needs it. Consider that WINMOR is
> a sound card mode. Since you don't have to buy even a 1200 baud style
> TNC, that would make WINMOR worth at least the $75 you might pay for
> the least expensive TNC kit you can buy.
>
> Tim, N9PUZ
>
> Russell Blair wrote:
>>
>> Warren, It's my understanding that WINMOR is not going to be free
>> software, that going to cost something. ? do you know what the price
>> goig to be.?
>>
>> Russell
>
> 



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] A Word About Hamspots

[Andrew O'Brien]

Digital mode enthusiasts will be familiar with this group's "sked page" at 
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ and also the PSK Reporter pages.  Recently the 
Hamspots page has been revamped,   check it at http://www.hamspots.net .  These 
pages always seem much less used that I would like but the Hamspots page lately 
seems quite active, especially the  30M page http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Google's memory ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Please excuse the non-ham question.  I just started using a new PC this 
weekend.  Tonight I needed to add the Contest Caledar to my bookmarks, so 
Googled "Contest Calendar".  I then saw...

WA7BNM Contest Calendar Main Page
 - 7 visits - Aug 8

Since this is a new PC with a fresh Windows XP install, how does Google and/or 
Firefox know when I previously visited the Contest Calendar?  Cookies 
transferable?

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

An update on this issue...  I have successfully installed an OLD HD with
Windows XP in to a new PC as a primary drive.

I did not intend to do this, after lightning zapped two PCs lately, I bought
a cheap Dell via Ebay!  You get what you pay for because within a few hours
the new Ebay PC's Hard Drive stopped working (just after I installed all the
ham software!  ).

So, just out of interest, I took the kaput HD out and installed an old HD of
the same brand.  It booted up but asked for a valid product key.  I called
Microsoft for assistance and they ask for a series of numbers generated by
Windows after I input the XP key from my OLD PC.  Yes, despite no use for 2
years I still had the case of my old Emachines PC, the same PC whose HD and
OS I was now using in a Dell. The Microsoft rep used the numbers I gave him
to generate a NEW key.  I used the new key and then was able to re-install
Windows XP from a HD partition.  I then updated to SP3, also need to
validate again but the key from the back of the old PC worked.  I'm still
updating as I type but so far so good.

So now my $46 Dell boots up as an Emachine !  I am not sure exactly what I
did but it looks like the answer to my original question is that you CAN
install a old HD and OS in to a different PC provided you use the product
key from your old machine.

Here's hoping that no more HD die or PC get zapped for a while, I'm getting
tired of installing software repeatedly.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: More on RS ID ... the pleasure of

[Andrew O'Brien]

-
> 
> I am going to work now, but have decided to leave DM780 active and my
> rig on 20M just to see what modes DM780 detects while I am out.  The 3
> Khz spread my rig limits me to gets to be a little sad when compared
> to a SDR bandwidth, maybe I'll play around with Commander and see if I
> can scan different 3 kHz sections a few minutes at a time.
> 
> -- 
> Andy
>

Yes, using Commander, I set the dwell time for scanning to just 3 seconds.  I 
am scanning four 3Khz segments over 12 seconds.  I may miss a few RS IDs but it 
should be interesting.

[digitalradio] More on RS ID ... the pleasure of

[Andrew O'Brien]

 I know several have written about RS ID now that it is fully
implemented in Multipsk, DM780, Pocketdigi, and Fldigi.  I have been
off the air for a few weeks , today I installed software on my new PC
(DX Lab Suite, Multipsk,  HRD/DM780 and FLdigi always go on a new PC
first! )  I booted up DM780 to take a look since I am a little behind
in the latest developments for DM780, I heard NO signals on the band
but within the first minute I saw  " RSID:THOR 16 f=2Ø4ØHz "  I
clicked to allow the RS ID and saw

"CQ CQ de VE9NC VE9NC
CQ CQ de VE9NC VE9NC"

I am going to work now, but have decided to leave DM780 active and my
rig on 20M just to see what modes DM780 detects while I am out.  The 3
Khz spread my rig limits me to gets to be a little sad when compared
to a SDR bandwidth, maybe I'll play around with Commander and see if I
can scan different 3 kHz sections a few minutes at a time.

-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Re: Digial Meteors

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Tony  wrote:
>
> All,
> 
> The Perseids meteor shower is at it's peak. Good opportunity to get your 
> feet wet on VHF meter meteor scatter.
> 
> See http://www.pingjockey.net/cgi-bin/pingtalk / 
> ttp://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/
> 
> Tony -K2MO
>


Agreed.  My new PC arrived today and I hope to get everything installed so I 
can try some 6M MS tonight. I have been without digital modes for 2 weeks!

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Olivia/MT63 setting/ was Soliciting suggestions

[Andrew O'Brien]

Howard,


Before you buy MixW, did you try Multipsk?  It may be able to do what
your group wants while awaiting Fldigi fixes.

Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Soliciting suggestions- ALE is the answer

[Andrew O'Brien]

While awaiting Winmor, the only real alternatives are NBEMS/FLARQ,
ALE,  or PSKMAIL.  ALE is, in my opinion, the best conceptually.  It
is "free" and  does not need any fancy modems.  It does require a
network of stations world-wide and a fairly hefty (good SNR)  signal
to make a "link".  There is a basic network that exists, triple the
size of it, and it would really do well.  Maintaining a "listen before
transmitting" ethic would help with some current objections to the
"unattended soundings" aspects of ALE.  Switching from standard ALE to
ALE 400 would probably be best in the long run.

Both NBEMS and PSKMAIL would also work, same thing though.  They need
a network of active stations, if they had this, they would work well.



Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV/Easypal

[Andrew O'Brien]

Yes Bob,  Easypal is "cool" all a round.  I still think it is under
used for non-picture use, great for message handling.

Andy K3UK

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:22 PM, AD5VJ  Bob wrote:
>

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 12:46 PM, AD5VJ  Bob wrote:
>
>
> Hi Garrett
>
> Thanks very much for the information, I am a sponge right now so all
> information is good Hi Hi
>
> I didn't realize it but when I went to bed last night I left the rig on
> 14.233 because I was listening for DX.
>
> I have 5 call signs in the log and just rx a really cool pic of a cockpit in
> an airplane of some kind.
>
> This is just too cool for words (guess we'll have to use pictures).
>
> Bob AD5VJ

Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV

[Andrew O'Brien]

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:33 AM, AD5VJ  Bob wrote:
>
>
> Sure good deal where is that page please?
>
> Bob AD5VJ
>



http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/

[digitalradio] New MFJ PIC TNC

[Andrew O'Brien]

FYI, MFJ will  be releasing a  PIC based TNC . Not sure when they will
announce,  but the deal was signed last week.


-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] New to SSTV

[Andrew O'Brien]

Bob.  It has been a couple of years since I have used it but will be
glad to try a sked.  You can also tune to 14233 and usually find
signals to decode.We can use the digitalradio sked page to
coordinate things if needed.
Andy K3UK

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 2:17 AM, AD5VJ  Bob wrote:
>
>
> I just downloaded and installed EasyPal and after a few hours have the code
> for PTT figured out and have it working from what I can
> tell on my dummy load.
>
> Is there anyone on the group that would meet me on a frequency so I could
> test it out over the air tonight?
>
> Bob AD5VJ
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Amazing, many thanks.
Andy

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:26 PM, boeing52au wrote:
>
>
> Also try http://www.marinetraffic.com
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK

[Andrew O'Brien]

Perhaps http://www.kostis.net/charsets/iso8859.5.htm

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Patrick Lindecker wrote:
>
>
> Simon,
>
> I don't know exactly, but the ISO8859-5 is for Cyrillic.
>
> 73
> Patrick
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK
>
>> Patrick,
>>
>> What table - this is what we need to know.
>>
>> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Patrick Lindecker" 
>>>
>>> Note for information: there is no special to do except be able to
>>> code/decode all characters between CHR(128) and CHR(255).
>>> If the users work with the same table all is OK. This apply to Russian
>>> and
>>> all the languages using specific ANSI tables.
>>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at
>> http://www.obriensweb.com/sked
>>
>> Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk
>> Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Software defined receivers, versus transceivers, for digital modes ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

The Softrock radios make me a little nervouse because their
availability seems sporadic and their website makes you wonder if they
are still a full busines.   Is the V9  mentioned in this thread a
multiband?  Ideally hams would be beter off with one SDR that covers
80-10 rather thans several for each band.  Also,I would like to avoid
kits.



On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Simon (HB9DRV) wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bill V WA7NWP" 
>>
>> For a starter, how about a 10 KHz version of the QPSKx25 mode...
>>
>
> Well - this assumes you have a SDR transmitter of course, but the SDR
> SoftRock is cheap and more than good enough. With a simple 10 watt amp
> you'll have everything needed...
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
> www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
>
> 



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Software defined receivers, versus transceivers, for digital modes ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

I note that Flexradio is introducing a QRP SDR transceiver later this
year for under US$700 , it will be general coverage and support all HF
bands.  I'm mainly interested in SDR for the ability to monitor a
whole band for digital signals and it occurred to me to that perhaps a
receiver, as opposed to a transceiver, might be useful.  Then, switch
to my other rigs for transmit.  It may be a step "backwards" to the
days of "separates" , anyone tried this?  Are there any multiband SDR
receivers with all the usual amateur radio bells and whistles?

-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Russian PSK

[Andrew O'Brien]

Ian, this old message (below) seems to imply that Multipsk will do it.

Andy K3UK

"Hello Simon,

Cyrillic characters pertains to a specific ANSI table (for 128 to 255) which is
installed in Russian, Ukrainians...computers (ASCII being common to all
tables).

You have nothing to do except let all the characters for 128 to 255 free (not
used as I did in the first versions of Multipsk).

If so you will pass all languages except ideograms writings (as Japonese) which
need a specific handling of a aspecial editotr (IDE) which is complex to manage
(i.e I fail to do it simple).

I don't know for semitic languages where you have to type from right to left.
TKS if some Ham using this writing could tell us how they manage this and if
they success with digital programs editors."

73
Patrick


On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Ian Wade G3NRW wrote:
>
>
> I am interested in carrying out QSOs with Russian stations in Russian.
> Is there any PSK program that supports Cyrillic character set (screen
> and keyboard)?
>
> --
> 73
> Ian, G3NRW
>
> 



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Fwd: EPC Russia DX Contest - 2009

[Andrew O'Brien]

Amateurs all over the world !
Welcome to participate in the EPC RUSSIA DX Contest-2009 !
1st EPC RUSSIA DX CONTEST - 22 aug 03:00 UTC ~ 23 aug 03:00 UTC -
modes BPSK63 and QPSK63.
RULES: 
http://eu.srars.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=131&Itemid=96

FILES for MixW: http://www.digitalrus.ru/Files/StatsEPCRU.zip
Unzip the contents of StatsEPCRU.zip to your MixW / Plugins directory.

ADJUSTING MIXW FOR EPC RUSSIA DX CONTEST:
http://www.epc-ru.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=199&Itemid=113

We hope to see you at EPCRUDXC-2009!
Best wishes! 73!!!

-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] HamSpots.net back online

[Andrew O'Brien]

-- Forwarded message --
From: Laurie, VK3AMA 
Date: Aug 1, 2009 6:16 AM
Subject: [30MDG] HamSpots.net back online
To: 30...@yahoogroups.com



Hello everyone,

Sorry for the extended downtime of HamSpots.net

It is now back online.

Some things to note.

-- New simpler URLs for band/mode/group pages and rss feeds for each.
-- The 30M page URL is http://www.HamSpots.net/30/
-- The 30M RSS feed (of local spots) URL is
http://www.HamSpots.net/rss/30/
-- Spots are "Local" and don't go to the live "Cluster".
-- Cluster spots are filtered for the appropriate Band/mode display.
-- Auto lookup and display of Club membership numbers in both Local and
Cluster displays.
-- Club membership numbers are also included in the RSS feed of Local spots.
-- You only need to "Sign In' if you want to post spots and messages.
-- Guest mode allows you to view spots without the need to "Sign In".
-- Your login Name & Callsign are remembered between browser sessions
(if you have cookies enabled).

I have tested the page layouts extensively in several modern standards
compliant browsers (Firefox, Safari, etc) as well as older versions of
Internet Explorer (which usually breaks page layouts). If you experience
broken pages/layouts, please let me know.

73 de Laurie, VK3AMA




-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] digital mode emcomm simulated drills

[Andrew O'Brien]

There appears to be a large group of hams in this group that have an
interest in digital modes for emergency communication .  I wonder if we
might want to have a quarterly drill of some time where we "activate" and
use NBEMS.,ALE, PSK MAIL. possibly WINMOR (when available)?  Does anyone
have any ideas on how we might organize this ?  I am aware than local ARES
groups in the USA might do something, but I am interested in so periodic
international drill .  Ideas ?
-- 
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] re: www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Steve, good to see.

Andy K3UK



On 7/31/09, shajducek  wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hello Andy and All,
>
> The replacement for Charles old open web site for PC-ALE is now up and
> running as of today at:
>
> www.n2ckh.com/PC_ALE_FORUM
>
> I am still quite busy and have not re-enabled live e-mails from this forum
> due to its heavy message load. So for those that are not members of the
> HFlink forum, questions on PC-ALE for me via this forum will not get a fast
> response, instead I would recommend sending them direct.
>
> /s/ Steve, N2CKH
>
> 
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Mic to speaker method of digital xmision

[Andrew O'Brien]

While awaiting  arrival of a new shack PC (SLOW ebay dealer) I have resorted
to using my laptop to receive digital modes and have even made a qso or two
my holding the rig's mic to the laptop speaker!I am not able to hook-up
the laptop to my digital interface.  When using microphone to speaker and
manually PTTing, what would the best technique be for a cleaner signal ?
Low speaker volume and mic closer to speaker?  Louder volume and mic a
couple of inches away from speaker ?
-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, David  wrote:
>
> Hi All...have tried to see if Shipplotter will run on Linux under Wine
> have got the GUI up and it seems as if may be working ok.
> havent got the hardware to fully try it out.
> 
> 73 David VK4BDJ
> 
>

Thanks to all for the tips.  What hardware is needed David ?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Any public domain software that can decode it ?

On 7/29/09, aa777888athotmaildotcom  wrote:
>
>
>
> They are not "normal" FM transmissions. AIS uses an emission designator of
> 16K0FD. More specifically, a 9.6kbps GMSK FM modulation using HDLC packet
> protocols.
>
> Almost everything you need to know is right here:
>
> http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/enav/ais/default.htm
>
> Scott
>
> --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com ,
> "Andrew O'Brien"  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Dave, is it via some sort of data burst?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, nf2g  wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > All emissions on those channels are FM.
> > >
> > > 73 de Dave, NF2G
> > >
> > > __._,
> > >
> >
>
> 
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] CQ Hawaii

[Andrew O'Brien]

I need a LOTW verified QSO with a station in Hawaii via any valid digital mode 
.  This is all I need to accomplished the ARRL LOTW Triple Play award.  Any 
Hawaii stations on this list ?

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Dave, is it via some sort of data burst?

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, nf2g  wrote:

>
>
> All emissions on those channels are FM.
>
> 73 de Dave, NF2G
>
>  __._,
>

[digitalradio] Universal Shipborne Automatic Identification System (AIS) ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Does anyone know what mode is used to transmit AIS information on VHF
maritime channels ?

-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] 9 years ago today : Digital groups merging

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew J. O'Brien"  wrote:
>
> As was discussed a few weeks ago, the egroup RADIODATADECODING , is merging
> it's subscribers with the DIGITALRADIO reflector run by Andy O'Brien KB2EOQ
> at www.egroups.com/group/digitalradio  .  Digitalradio has 165 active
> subscribers and subscription invitations have been sent to the 50
> radiodatadecoding members that did not already belong to digitalradio.
> Thanks to Andrew Nicholson for a great job with radiodatadecoding and for
> his suggestion that his group join Digitalradio.
> 
> Assuming that many of the fifty join digitalradio , we will then have over
> 200 active members making it one of the most active reflectors for the
> digital ham or SWL.  Digitalradio has many of the authors of current
> software amongst it's membership al supports conversation about ALL digital
> modes and all related software applications.  A files section also contains
> many of the free digital radio software products .
> http://www.egroups.com/files/digitalradio/
> 
> Welcome to our new members
> 
> 73 de Andy KB2EOQ
>

[digitalradio] Addonics converter: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Dave, they must be popular... they are out of stock of the $59.00
model I am interested in.

Andy K3UK

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Dave AA6YQ  wrote:

>
>
>
>
> Addonics makes a product that lets you convert any IDE drive into an
> external USB drive. Access via USB is significantly slower than native IDE
> access, but you can connect to any PC with a USB interface; perhaps they
> have a USB 2.0 version by now:
>
> http://www.addonics.com/products/io/
>
> While converters like these are somewhat slow, they allow you to connect
> a drive up to a running PC -- eliminating the need to power it down, open
> its chassis, and make the IDE or SATA connection -- which can be difficult
> in a smaller chassis stuffed with cables.
>
>

[digitalradio] " Hop, skip and jump away ... powerful, ALE implementation that would outperform MIL-STD-188-141A " ?

[Andrew O'Brien]

Regarding this message below, from the RS-ID thread, can someone elaborate
?   What " lightweight ALE implementation ?

Andy K3UK



"You know what's really exciting? We are a hop, skip and jump away from a
powerful, lightweight ALE implementation that would probably outperform
MIL-STD-188-141A by a large margin.

Right now the code scans an entire 3KHz bandwidth for RSID (or more with
SDR). When you add in the future, planned SELCAL feature the only things
missing after that are scanning and an automated response.

It also appears possible that the software would be capable of automatically
choosing an empty spot on the waterfall to make the call. This would allow
all calls to occur simultaneously and therefore I would suggest time
synchronized scanning a la JT65 or WSPR in order to improve probability of
intercept without long or repetitive RSID transmissions. Say 4 second dwell
per band to allow a +/-1 second guard band on the timing (given a 2 second
RSID transmission length). The occasional collision would be worth the
simplicity and reliability."
-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] RS-ID QST item

[Andrew O'Brien]

Since my computer got zapped, I lost the item about RS-ID that I wrote for
Steve Ford at QST.  The deadline for November QST is August 1 2009, so will
re-write today.



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks for the additional detail Dick.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:00 PM, W6CCD  wrote:

>
>
> Surge protection is not the same as using a UPS, which will also contain
> surge protection.  With a UPS your equipment is never connected to the power
> lines per se.  You are always running off the battery driven inverter, which
> is being charged by the A/C mains.
>
> Hard drives used in computers manufactured within the last several years
> use the cable select position for the jumper(s).  With cable select you can
> use the drive in any position without further changes to the jumpers.
>
> I use a program called Acronis True Image.  I have an external hard drive
> that automatically creates an image of the drives on the computer every
> night.  If I have a hard drive crash, all I have to do is replace the drive
> and put the image(s) on the new drive(s).  My data is never more than 24
> hours old.  Usually much less.  Data protection doesn't have to be
> difficult.
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks  for all the feedback.  I did/do have surge protection in line and am
surprised that other equipment plugged in same circuits were not at all
impacted.  I'd be tempted to switch to Linux for my ham computers if I could
get my Microham Microkeyer to work fully under Linux but last I checked, it
was not possible.  I'd miss DX Lab applications too.

In the future I think I will explore external storage devices and the device
that Dave Bernstein mentioned.  If I have more zapped computers I would like
to avoid researching jumper settings (which seem surprisingly without
industry standardization) on hard drives . Also the issue such as hard drive
belts, housing, railings, etc.  While not really that difficult to handle ,
these things contribute the the overall "hassle" of switching hard drives.

>From a ham radio station readiness perspective, and an overall goal of
simplicity, I'd like to see the ability to have the computers independent of
storage devices .  A  PC gets fried, plug the external storage device in to
a back-up computer and away you go !

Cue mentions of Fldigi/NBEMS puppyy discs  :>)

Andy K3UK.



On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:51 AM, dennisbauer65 wrote:

>
>
> Hi all don't really understand why the trouble, all i use is a external
> hard disk container which plugs into usb port and i can use a vista hard
> drive or xp hard drive into xp home i have added new hard drives to
> different motherboards all my old hard drives i still have still work, and
> also the vista home premium will all plug into this xp op sys and i can read
> any files or swap them across, i use fldigi Domino,we have a net on 3530 7pm
> Brisbane east coast time most nights, also have MixW reg through Jim Jaffer,
> in the States, using digital more and more its great thanking you all Dennis
> Bauer.
>
>  
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

Thanks Rick.  Kinda like buying a  car and it  being rendered inoperative if
I installed a new engine.


On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Rick Ellison  wrote:

>
>
>  My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply take a hard drive
> from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a Windows license
> disc  for the new PC.  Is this correct?
>
>
>
> Unless you install it in a computer that has the exact same hardware
> (Motherboard, Video,  Ect.) yes this is true. 9 out of 10 times the system
> will crash because you are trying to load drivers for hardware that is not
> present….
>
>
>
> 73 Rick N2AMG
>
>
>
> *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Andrew O'Brien
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:38 PM
> *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !
>
>
>
>
>
> After years or running PC's without issues, I have had 4 go bad in 12
> months.  Two this week, 4 days apart via thunderstorms .  One went today
> just an hour after I had fully reinstalled ham equipment on a new PC that
> arrived yesterday.  The new one survived, I had unplugged it at the sound of
> thunder.  I powered off the older one but forgot to remove the power cord,
> it got zapped.  I put in a spare power supply that i had, that lasted  5
> minutes and gave up the ghost.  Maybe something else was weakened by the
> original zap and caused the second power supply to burn out.
>
> Anyway, my main issue is the frustrating fact that I have data on hard
> drives that seems ridiculously complex to retrieve when using
> Windows based PCs. My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply
> take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a
> Windows license disc  for the new PC.  Is this correct?  In the past I have
> taken old drives and installed them in different PC's as slave drives.
> However this causes one to have to re-install many programs because they
> were originally installed to the registry on a C-drive.
>
> So what do I do with 5 hard drives laying around the shack ?  In particular
> one two-drive system with 160 gigs of useful data on it (both have  Windows
> OS on them since both are from different original PC systems!) .  It would
> be nice to install in to a PC without having to get a HD with an OS on it.
> --
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

yes, I thought of that Skip.  I am looking for a copy of my working Puppy,
cleaned the shack last week and have misplaced it.  I should point out that
I am close to having almost everything I need ,expect OS, backed up on teh
web and accessible when I need to start over.  I  have my log backed up and
I email it to myself as an attachment via Gmail,  then use products like
DXLab, HRD, Fldigib that can easily be reinstalled for free, and my Multipsk
license is also backup via the Internet.  Today's zapped computer however
contains 20 gigs of paid for Itunes stuff.  Luckily a nifty program call
copytrans allows me to retrieve back to Itunes from the Ipod.



On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:47 PM, kh6ty  wrote:

>
>
> Andy,
>
> Try running a NBEMS Puppy Linux CD live. You can access all the data and
> windows partitions with Puppy from the Puppy Desktop.
>
> 73, Skip KH6TY
>
>
> Andrew O'Brien wrote:
> >
> >
> > After years or running PC's without issues, I have had 4 go bad in 12
> > months. Two this week, 4 days apart via thunderstorms . One went
> > today just an hour after I had fully reinstalled ham equipment on a
> > new PC that arrived yesterday. The new one survived, I had unplugged
> > it at the sound of thunder. I powered off the older one but forgot to
> > remove the power cord, it got zapped. I put in a spare power supply
> > that i had, that lasted 5 minutes and gave up the ghost. Maybe
> > something else was weakened by the original zap and caused the second
> > power supply to burn out.
> >
> > Anyway, my main issue is the frustrating fact that I have data on hard
> > drives that seems ridiculously complex to retrieve when using
> > Windows based PCs. My local computer store tells me that one cannot
> > simply take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even
> > if you have a Windows license disc for the new PC. Is this correct?
> > In the past I have taken old drives and installed them in different
> > PC's as slave drives. However this causes one to have to re-install
> > many programs because they were originally installed to the registry
> > on a C-drive.
> >
> > So what do I do with 5 hard drives laying around the shack ? In
> > particular one two-drive system with 160 gigs of useful data on it
> > (both have Windows OS on them since both are from different original
> > PC systems!) . It would be nice to install in to a PC without having
> > to get a HD with an OS on it.
> > --
> > Andy
> >
> >
>
> --
> *Skip KH6TY*
> http://KH6TY.home.comcast.net
>  
>



-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Zapped PCs, data recovery, and Windows !

[Andrew O'Brien]

After years or running PC's without issues, I have had 4 go bad in 12
months.  Two this week, 4 days apart via thunderstorms .  One went today
just an hour after I had fully reinstalled ham equipment on a new PC that
arrived yesterday.  The new one survived, I had unplugged it at the sound of
thunder.  I powered off the older one but forgot to remove the power cord,
it got zapped.  I put in a spare power supply that i had, that lasted  5
minutes and gave up the ghost.  Maybe something else was weakened by the
original zap and caused the second power supply to burn out.

Anyway, my main issue is the frustrating fact that I have data on hard
drives that seems ridiculously complex to retrieve when using
Windows based PCs. My local computer store tells me that one cannot simply
take a hard drive from a old Pc and place it in a new PC even if you have a
Windows license disc  for the new PC.  Is this correct?  In the past I have
taken old drives and installed them in different PC's as slave drives.
However this causes one to have to re-install many programs because they
were originally installed to the registry on a C-drive.

So what do I do with 5 hard drives laying around the shack ?  In particular
one two-drive system with 160 gigs of useful data on it (both have  Windows
OS on them since both are from different original PC systems!) .  It would
be nice to install in to a PC without having to get a HD with an OS on it.
-- 
Andy

[digitalradio] Fldigi Linux CD

[Andrew O'Brien]

Can someone point me to a free ISO burner and also a current link for a ISO 
file so that I can burn a new bootable Linus FL-digi?  Thanks 

[digitalradio] Fwd: DXP38

[Andrew O'Brien]

Anyone know how to help Mahazir ?


-- Forwarded message --
From: 
Date: Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:40 AM
Subject: DXP38
To: andrewob...@gmail.com


Hello,

I am Mahazir from Malaysia. My department needs MODEM DXP38. Unfortunately
that item is obsalete. So I am trying to find out all over the world where
can get that MODEM.

Thank for your advertising. Just want to confirm about that modem. Is it in
your stock? Quantity do you have and how much it coast?

Thank very much.

Best Regards
Mahazir
9M1Mt



-- 
Andy

Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan

[Andrew O'Brien]

Good point!

Andy


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Cortland Richmond wrote:

>
>
> I do hope digital users avoid interfering with the North American 40 meter
> QRP CW frequency on 7040.
>
>
>
> Cortland
> KA5S.
>
>

Re: [digitalradio] New 40m Band Plan

[Andrew O'Brien]

I did not know that,  but have noticed less Europeans at 7035,

Andy K3UK


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Andrew  wrote:

>
>
> Has anyone noticed that the band plan for 40m has been changed. I for one
> had not seen it. It has changed the frequency for digi modes from the 7035
> area up to 7040 to 7047.
>
> I still hear most stations around 7035
>
> Link is below
>
> Andy
> LY/ES2DY
>

Re: [digitalradio] More RSID - PLEASE!/ Revised Suggested Calling QRGs?

[Andrew O'Brien]

I have noticed the same increase Tony, nice to see.  I wonder if we should
redefine suggested calling  frequencies for the non-PSK31/RTTY CQ and keep
people away from JT65A frequencies and ALE frequencies .  Seems to me that
the complicated suggestions for Olivia QSOs are no longer needed.  ?

How about dial frequencies of 14073, 21073, 28123, 3583, 7038, 10143 all USB
?  Vary the center frequency according to the mode selected , qsy if
frequency is busy. I am sure someone will point out the potential conflicts.


 I am deliberately suggesting frequencies CLOSE to the PSK31 areas so that
those using PSK31 might hear the signals within their passband, and also so
those using the frequencies to call CQ in more exotic modes can also monitor
PSK31 (I often have two applications open when monitoring active digital
mode portions of a band.)

Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital modes and old husband's tales

[Andrew O'Brien]

Ed.  this is very useful information , thanks for sharing it.  I will check
that section written by Patrick

Andy




>  
>



-- 
Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Double Entries on Waterfall

[Andrew O'Brien]

>
> Let me try again, Sheesh !  Can you actually decode text from the same
> station on two different parts of the waterfall?  How far apart on your
> waterfall are these "doubles" ?
>



>
>
> >
> > How do you know they are doubles?
> >
>
> I don't, that's why I was asking the question. Sheesh!
>
> - Ralph (AJ4GR)
>

[digitalradio] Digital modes and old husband's tales

[Andrew O'Brien]

The replies to Ralph's question about audio levels appear to be sound advice
and certainly in keeping with what has been advised since sound card digital
modes burst upon the scene.  I wonder how accurate it is though?I have
seen a few serious hams argue that "no ALC" is not really the case, that
some ALC can be OK.  I have also seen mention that the no ALC issue applies
to some modes (like PSK) but not to others like (JT65A).  I also wonder
about the half-power advice that some advise.  With my homebrewed interface,
I could never get much above 40 watts before some ALC began to show.  When I
switched to a commerical interface with good isolation (Microkeyer by
Microham) I can almost always get 100 watts output without any ALC action.
I have not received any negative reports about my signal .  If I run 100
watts SSB for phone contacts, why would I not want to do the same for
digital modes assuming the signal was "clean" ?  .  Yes, I would agree I
should not run 100 watts if communication was possible with less power,  but
I don't think a brief  PSK CQ at 100 watts is going to do much more harm to
my finals than a 3 minute ragchew at 50 watts, phone .  Right ?

Comments ?



-- 
Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] Re: Double Entries on Waterfall

[Andrew O'Brien]

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "Ralph Lambert"  wrote:
>
> Why do I sometimes see double entries for the same call sign in the
> waterfall.  Is this some one working split?  It seems like it is a
> duplex issue or am I way off the boat on this one?
> 
> 73, Ralph (AJ4GR)
>

How do you know they are doubles? You can expect to see doubles if using 
multiple decode options like those listed as "stations heard" in Winwarbler or 
in the "panoramic" view in Multipsk.  In regular decode for BPSK31 you can also 
see a "harmonic" every 1000 Hz if a station is transmitting with a badly over 
driven  signal.  You may simply be seeing other close by signals, or possibly 
mistaking the two parallel vertical lines normally seen in BPSK31.

Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] QST submission on RS-ID

[Andrew O'Brien]

I'll draft something this weekend and send to Steve for his review.  I may 
contact Patrick, Simon, Skip or Dave  for some technical details if I need to.  
I worked with Steve on a couple of items for his column in the past (I think 
the last one was guide to JT65A on HF) . Steve sometimes likes good pictures, 
so I'll try to create a couple for him.

Andy K3UK