Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-20 Thread Wilfredo Aviles Jr / KP4ARN
Congratulation Jose for take your time for develope a new mode.

 If is Illegal I think is not, because is experimental and that is part of this 
hobby, so for other part the most other new digital mode start in experimental 
mode like ROS.

Jose not stop, go a head.

 
73' Wilfredo "Junior" Aviles / KP4ARN 

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From: Andy obrien 
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, February 20, 2010 3:21:35 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

  
Very impressive Jose, again...congratulat ions.


On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:25 AM, jose alberto nieto ros  
wrote:

  
>I made the experiment over AWGN and ROS is 2 dBs better than OLIVIA 32/1000.
>
>But we are comparing two modes at differents character rate. As you know ROS 
>is two times faster than OLIVIA 32/1000.
>
>You should compare ROS 16 with OLIVIA 8/1000.  Then the different is about 5-6 
>dBs for the same character rate.
>
>
>
>

De: Andy obrien 
>Para: digitalradio 
>Enviado: sáb,20 febrero, 2010 00:28
>Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS experiments
>
>
>  
>My "experiments" (many receptions and 2 transmissions) today with
>ROS 1 and ROS 16 shows that it is quite an effective mode.
>Congratulations Jose. Of particular interest to me were the several
>occasions where I decoded a signal that was not visible in the
>waterfall or audible to my ears. It will interesting to see if Tony
>K2MO gets a chance to put this through the Pathsim tests and compare
>it to Olivia. My "guess" is that it will be close to that of Olivia
>1000/32 , perhaps within 2-3 dB.
>
>I should also point out that I think the software is well designed and
>layed out. Over the years we have had many modes come and go. I
>suspect that in 2-3 years time, ROS will still be used.
>
>Andy K3UK
>
>




  

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Very impressive Jose, again...congratulations.

On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:25 AM, jose alberto nieto ros <
nietoro...@yahoo.es> wrote:

>
>
> I made the experiment over AWGN and ROS is 2 dBs better than OLIVIA
> 32/1000.
>
> But we are comparing two modes at differents character rate. As you know
> ROS is two times faster than OLIVIA 32/1000.
>
> You should compare ROS 16 with OLIVIA 8/1000.  Then the different is about
> 5-6 dBs for the same character rate.
>
>  --
> *De:* Andy obrien 
> *Para:* digitalradio 
> *Enviado:* sáb,20 febrero, 2010 00:28
> *Asunto:* [digitalradio] ROS experiments
>
>
>
> My "experiments" (many receptions and 2 transmissions) today with
> ROS 1 and ROS 16 shows that it is quite an effective mode.
> Congratulations Jose. Of particular interest to me were the several
> occasions where I decoded a signal that was not visible in the
> waterfall or audible to my ears. It will interesting to see if Tony
> K2MO gets a chance to put this through the Pathsim tests and compare
> it to Olivia. My "guess" is that it will be close to that of Olivia
> 1000/32 , perhaps within 2-3 dB.
>
> I should also point out that I think the software is well designed and
> layed out. Over the years we have had many modes come and go. I
> suspect that in 2-3 years time, ROS will still be used.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>  
>


Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
I made the experiment over AWGN and ROS is 2 dBs better than OLIVIA 32/1000.

But we are comparing two modes at differents character rate. As you know ROS is 
two times faster than OLIVIA 32/1000.

You should compare ROS 16 with OLIVIA 8/1000.  Then the different is about 5-6 
dBs for the same character rate.





De: Andy obrien 
Para: digitalradio 
Enviado: sáb,20 febrero, 2010 00:28
Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

  
My "experiments" (many receptions and 2 transmissions) today with
ROS 1 and ROS 16 shows that it is quite an effective mode.
Congratulations Jose. Of particular interest to me were the several
occasions where I decoded a signal that was not visible in the
waterfall or audible to my ears. It will interesting to see if Tony
K2MO gets a chance to put this through the Pathsim tests and compare
it to Olivia. My "guess" is that it will be close to that of Olivia
1000/32 , perhaps within 2-3 dB.

I should also point out that I think the software is well designed and
layed out. Over the years we have had many modes come and go. I
suspect that in 2-3 years time, ROS will still be used.

Andy K3UK




  

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread Tony


> It will interesting to see if Tony K2MO gets a chance to put this through the 
> Pathsim tests and compare it to Olivia. My "guess" is 
> that it will be close to that of Olivia. Andy K3UK

Andy,

I'd be more than happy to run ROS through the path simulator if I could get the 
program running with Vista :  ) Can't get past the run-time error.  

Tony -K2MO


[digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
My "experiments"  (many receptions and 2 transmissions)  today with
ROS 1 and ROS 16 shows that it is quite an effective mode.
Congratulations Jose.   Of particular interest to me  were the several
occasions where I decoded a signal that was not visible in the
waterfall or audible to my ears.  It will interesting to see if Tony
K2MO gets a chance to put this through the Pathsim tests and compare
it to Olivia.  My "guess" is that it will be close to that of Olivia
1000/32 , perhaps within 2-3 dB.

I should also point out that I think the software is well designed and
layed out.  Over the years we have had many modes come and go.  I
suspect that in 2-3 years time, ROS will still be used.

Andy K3UK