[digitalradio] Re: Beacons

2008-01-13 Thread jgorman01
Part 97.3(a)(9) Beacon. An amateur station transmitting communications
for the purposes of observation of propagation and reception or other 
related experimental activities.

Tell me where the mention of receiver or transceiver is in this
rule?  It simply doesn't matter what the DESIGN of the equipment is
according to this rule.  The rule covers the PURPOSE of the
transmission, not the equipment that does the transmitting.  

Station id's without being involved in a two-way communications or in
setting one up are considered one-way transmissions.  CQ's are allowed
because they are defined as:

Part 97.111(b)(2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing 
two-way communications with other stations;

Talk about an activist lawyer and lawyer-wannabe.  You know what
judges tell lawyers that spout creative interpretation of law that
don't follow plain language, precedent, and legislative history?  Not
in my court!

Jim
WA0LYK



--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, expeditionradio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Andy K3UK wrote:
  So, what about Propnet ? 
  Would this not also apply to their beacons?
 
 Hi Andy,
 
 Beacons essentially are transmitters without receivers.
 
 Here's a good test to tell if a station is not beacon:
 Call the station, if it responds, it isn't a beacon. 
 If you can QSO with the station, it isn't a beacon. 
 If you can exchange data with it, it isn't a beacon.
 
 As I understand it, APRS stations and Propnet stations 
 are using transceivers and communicating with each 
 other in a net. Some of the data communications are 
 automatic, or they make scheduled transmissions, but 
 that doesn't make them beacons, it just makes them 
 automatically controlled data stations. Both APRS and 
 Propnet nets are operating in the HF automatic sub-bands.
 
 It is somewhat ridiculous to say that every repetitive 
 signal, such as a station ID, is considered a beacon... 
 that would include all contesters and participants 
 in pileups... among other things, the second time you 
 call CQ without an answer :)
 
 It is common for ham digital mode software to have an 
 Auto CQ function. It continues to call CQ on a repetitive
 basis until it gets a response. Many PSK31 operators 
 use this feature... 
  
 Bonnie KQ6XA





[digitalradio] Re: Beacons the IARU [Was: RTTY Hall of Shame]

2006-09-25 Thread kd4e
 I asked a while back about how many logging and contesting programs  
 have band plans in them.  Given that 14.100 is in the IARU Band Plan, we 
 should be encouraged to follow it.
 Leigh/WA5ZNU

Or, Hams in nations around the world may choose to
take a new look under new circumstances and request
that the IARU consider a change to the Band Plan.

I believe that the IARU Band Plan is subject to
reconsideration and change.

-- 

Thanks!  73,
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Beacons the IARU [Was: RTTY Hall of Shame]

2006-09-25 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
Good point! Just like the DX entities list, the band plan should be 
dynamic, location sensitive, and of course user-configurable.
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 1:08 pm, kd4e wrote:
  I asked a while back about how many logging and contesting programs
  have band plans in them.  Given that 14.100 is in the IARU Band Plan, 
 we
  should be encouraged to follow it.
  Leigh/WA5ZNU

 Or, Hams in nations around the world may choose to
 take a new look under new circumstances and request
 that the IARU consider a change to the Band Plan.

 I believe that the IARU Band Plan is subject to
 reconsideration and change.

 --

 Thanks!  73,
 doc, KD4E
 ... somewhere in FL
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