[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-13 Thread Javier Albinarrate
Hi
This is just an update, although I lack time, I have been working on the 
webpage, so expect to see results within the next week.
73!

Javier LU8AJA

- Original Message - 
From: Javier Albinarrate jav...@albinarrate.com
Newsgroups: lnet.radio.digitalradio
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor


 Andy,

   Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, 
 and search.
   Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search 
 automatically.
   After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else 
 goes for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood 
 commands (which I already have worked with in the past), with that I could 
 cover quite a few rigs, however the idea would be, having the API 
 documented and online, to have somebody else write plugins for existing 
 program like MixW and HRD.
   If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue 
 to it, as always the problem is available time.
   Regards!
 Javier

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 Some good work Javier, many thanks.  Are you planning on making this
 idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency
 or one that would take information from their radio and logging
 software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ?

 Andy K3UK





 

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[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Javier Albinarrate
Hi,

This sounds interesting...
I setup a database, I made a few functional mockups, and some more glue could 
be added.
I would also provide JSON and XML connectors, to feed the info.
Perhaps we can move this into an alpha status... who knows..

http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/index.php
http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/register.php
http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/login.php

I'd like to have some more time before sending you these links, but it is 
late.. and time to go to bed..

73s!
Javier LU8AJA

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 Take at look at this fake web page http://www.obriensweb.com/whoiswhere.html
 
 I was thinking about the idea of a reverse DX cluster  or an
 expansion of the concepts behind hrdlog.net  .  A plce to see who is
 QRV and where they are on the bands. Not DX spots, just who is where.
I had some private emails with a few people about the varying ideas
 and one correspondent crystallized the thoughts by using the term who
 is where, now ?  It was further suggested that what  is needed to
 facilitate the concept is a very easy uncomplicated process that does
 not take a lots of resources or bandwidth.  An idea that is easily
 enabled in most common log book software after one configures that
 software to interface with your rig.  The idea would take the
 frequency/mode info that all moderns rigs send, and populate a webpage
 via use of TCP or  UDP, possibly in to a XML format.
 
 I created the fake webpage in the link above to start the idea
 rolling, an idea of what it may look like .  The page I put together
 is fairly crude, just something to start the idea cooking.
 
 This would be a idea that is free , no having to pay an annual fee
 like some logging programs already require.
 
 So, do we have any talent here that could take the idea and create it?
  Then we could host it (I would volunteer) and try to persuade popular
 logging/rig control software authors to support it by adding the
 ability to send the data strings from their software.
 
 Anyone take the idea further?
 
 Andy K3UK





Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Andy obrien
Some good work Javier, many thanks.  Are you planning on making this
idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency
or one that would take information from their radio and logging
software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ?

Andy K3UK

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Javier Albinarrate
jav...@albinarrate.com wrote:


 Hi,

 This sounds interesting...
 I setup a database, I made a few functional mockups, and some more glue
 could be added.
 I would also provide JSON and XML connectors, to feed the info.
 Perhaps we can move this into an alpha status... who knows..

 http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/index.php
 http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/register.php
 http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/login.php

 I'd like to have some more time before sending you these links, but it is
 late.. and time to go to bed..

 73s!
 Javier LU8AJA


Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Andy obrien

 A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to
 filter results could really make the Who is Now Where application a
 powerful - and POPULAR - resource.



 Bob - K3MQ



EXACTLY my  thoughts Bob, since I also use all DX LAB applications and
find Spotcollector to be amazing !

Andy K3UK


[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Bob
If I understand the concept correctly, this basically is self-spotting - 
which I believe to be a great idea. It certainly would not be allowed in 
contest scenarios, but for most users it would be a wonderful resource.

I now  use Dave's (AA6YQ) DXLab SpotCollector program for cluster management. 
It's an excellent program which allows you to view spots using almost any 
imaginable filter. You can see spots by band, counry, mode, callsign, state, 
LoTW, etc. - or any combination.

A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to filter 
results could really make the Who is Now Where application a powerful - and 
POPULAR - resource.


Instead of spotting someone else, you are just spotting yourself either 
manually or (preferably) your logging program polls your rig and does it for 
you.

Bob - K3MQ






[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Javier Albinarrate
Andy,

   Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, and 
search.
   Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search 
automatically.
   After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else goes 
for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood commands (which I 
already have worked with in the past), with that I could cover quite a few 
rigs, however the idea would be, having the API documented and online, to have 
somebody else write plugins for existing program like MixW and HRD.
   If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue to 
it, as always the problem is available time.
   Regards!
Javier

--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 Some good work Javier, many thanks.  Are you planning on making this
 idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency
 or one that would take information from their radio and logging
 software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ?
 
 Andy K3UK
 




Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Andy obrien
I have Kenwood , so I am happy to test it Javier,

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Javier Albinarrate
jav...@albinarrate.com wrote:


 Andy,

 Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, and
 search.
 Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search
 automatically.
 After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else goes
 for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood commands
 (which I already have worked with in the past), with that I could cover
 quite a few rigs, however the idea would be, having the API documented and
 online, to have somebody else write plugins for existing program like MixW
 and HRD.
 If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue to
 it, as always the problem is available time.
 Regards!
 Javier

 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:

 Some good work Javier, many thanks. Are you planning on making this
 idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency
 or one that would take information from their radio and logging
 software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ?

 Andy K3UK


 


RE: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor

2009-05-02 Thread Dave AA6YQ
If this gets off the ground, I will create a small application for DXLab
users that conveys your transceiver frequency (from Commander), your
operating mode (from WinWarbler if running, otherwise from Commander), and
your location (from DXView) to the WWN network. It would do this whenever
you make a change, e.g. QSY from 20m to 80m, or change operating modes from
RTTY to Olivia; this will minimize the load on whatever mechanism is
maintaining the data.

To start, I suggest a simple web-based UI that allows filtering by band,
operating mode, and location.

Someone should also take a hard look at WOTA and understand why it failed to
gain traction; there's no sense flying into the same mountain.

73,

   Dave, AA6YQ

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Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor





If I understand the concept correctly, this basically is self-spotting -
which I believe to be a great idea. It certainly would not be allowed in
contest scenarios, but for most users it would be a wonderful resource.

I now use Dave's (AA6YQ) DXLab SpotCollector program for cluster management.
It's an excellent program which allows you to view spots using almost any
imaginable filter. You can see spots by band, counry, mode, callsign, state,
LoTW, etc. - or any combination.

A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to
filter results could really make the Who is Now Where application a
powerful - and POPULAR - resource.

Instead of spotting someone else, you are just spotting yourself either
manually or (preferably) your logging program polls your rig and does it for
you.

Bob - K3MQ