[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
Hi This is just an update, although I lack time, I have been working on the webpage, so expect to see results within the next week. 73! Javier LU8AJA - Original Message - From: Javier Albinarrate jav...@albinarrate.com Newsgroups: lnet.radio.digitalradio Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 1:26 PM Subject: Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor Andy, Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, and search. Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search automatically. After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else goes for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood commands (which I already have worked with in the past), with that I could cover quite a few rigs, however the idea would be, having the API documented and online, to have somebody else write plugins for existing program like MixW and HRD. If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue to it, as always the problem is available time. Regards! Javier --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Some good work Javier, many thanks. Are you planning on making this idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency or one that would take information from their radio and logging software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ? Andy K3UK Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
Hi, This sounds interesting... I setup a database, I made a few functional mockups, and some more glue could be added. I would also provide JSON and XML connectors, to feed the info. Perhaps we can move this into an alpha status... who knows.. http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/index.php http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/register.php http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/login.php I'd like to have some more time before sending you these links, but it is late.. and time to go to bed.. 73s! Javier LU8AJA --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Take at look at this fake web page http://www.obriensweb.com/whoiswhere.html I was thinking about the idea of a reverse DX cluster or an expansion of the concepts behind hrdlog.net . A plce to see who is QRV and where they are on the bands. Not DX spots, just who is where. I had some private emails with a few people about the varying ideas and one correspondent crystallized the thoughts by using the term who is where, now ? It was further suggested that what is needed to facilitate the concept is a very easy uncomplicated process that does not take a lots of resources or bandwidth. An idea that is easily enabled in most common log book software after one configures that software to interface with your rig. The idea would take the frequency/mode info that all moderns rigs send, and populate a webpage via use of TCP or UDP, possibly in to a XML format. I created the fake webpage in the link above to start the idea rolling, an idea of what it may look like . The page I put together is fairly crude, just something to start the idea cooking. This would be a idea that is free , no having to pay an annual fee like some logging programs already require. So, do we have any talent here that could take the idea and create it? Then we could host it (I would volunteer) and try to persuade popular logging/rig control software authors to support it by adding the ability to send the data strings from their software. Anyone take the idea further? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
Some good work Javier, many thanks. Are you planning on making this idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency or one that would take information from their radio and logging software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ? Andy K3UK On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:09 AM, Javier Albinarrate jav...@albinarrate.com wrote: Hi, This sounds interesting... I setup a database, I made a few functional mockups, and some more glue could be added. I would also provide JSON and XML connectors, to feed the info. Perhaps we can move this into an alpha status... who knows.. http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/index.php http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/register.php http://lnet.com.ar/wwn/login.php I'd like to have some more time before sending you these links, but it is late.. and time to go to bed.. 73s! Javier LU8AJA
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to filter results could really make the Who is Now Where application a powerful - and POPULAR - resource. Bob - K3MQ EXACTLY my thoughts Bob, since I also use all DX LAB applications and find Spotcollector to be amazing ! Andy K3UK
[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
If I understand the concept correctly, this basically is self-spotting - which I believe to be a great idea. It certainly would not be allowed in contest scenarios, but for most users it would be a wonderful resource. I now use Dave's (AA6YQ) DXLab SpotCollector program for cluster management. It's an excellent program which allows you to view spots using almost any imaginable filter. You can see spots by band, counry, mode, callsign, state, LoTW, etc. - or any combination. A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to filter results could really make the Who is Now Where application a powerful - and POPULAR - resource. Instead of spotting someone else, you are just spotting yourself either manually or (preferably) your logging program polls your rig and does it for you. Bob - K3MQ
[digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
Andy, Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, and search. Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search automatically. After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else goes for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood commands (which I already have worked with in the past), with that I could cover quite a few rigs, however the idea would be, having the API documented and online, to have somebody else write plugins for existing program like MixW and HRD. If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue to it, as always the problem is available time. Regards! Javier --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Some good work Javier, many thanks. Are you planning on making this idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency or one that would take information from their radio and logging software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
I have Kenwood , so I am happy to test it Javier, On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Javier Albinarrate jav...@albinarrate.com wrote: Andy, Actually both. The webpage would allow you to manually post your freq, and search. Also, an API using JSON or XML, would allow programs to post and search automatically. After all the webpage is working, with the connectors, if nobody else goes for the task, I might make a standalone program using Kenwood commands (which I already have worked with in the past), with that I could cover quite a few rigs, however the idea would be, having the API documented and online, to have somebody else write plugins for existing program like MixW and HRD. If my XYL doesn't kill me, I might stay tonigh adding the necessary glue to it, as always the problem is available time. Regards! Javier --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote: Some good work Javier, many thanks. Are you planning on making this idea one where people would manually login in and post their frequency or one that would take information from their radio and logging software and automatically send the information to your php scripts ? Andy K3UK
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor
If this gets off the ground, I will create a small application for DXLab users that conveys your transceiver frequency (from Commander), your operating mode (from WinWarbler if running, otherwise from Commander), and your location (from DXView) to the WWN network. It would do this whenever you make a change, e.g. QSY from 20m to 80m, or change operating modes from RTTY to Olivia; this will minimize the load on whatever mechanism is maintaining the data. To start, I suggest a simple web-based UI that allows filtering by band, operating mode, and location. Someone should also take a hard look at WOTA and understand why it failed to gain traction; there's no sense flying into the same mountain. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:53 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Who Is Where Now : Idea, needs inventor If I understand the concept correctly, this basically is self-spotting - which I believe to be a great idea. It certainly would not be allowed in contest scenarios, but for most users it would be a wonderful resource. I now use Dave's (AA6YQ) DXLab SpotCollector program for cluster management. It's an excellent program which allows you to view spots using almost any imaginable filter. You can see spots by band, counry, mode, callsign, state, LoTW, etc. - or any combination. A program or online page providing the capabilities of SpotColletor to filter results could really make the Who is Now Where application a powerful - and POPULAR - resource. Instead of spotting someone else, you are just spotting yourself either manually or (preferably) your logging program polls your rig and does it for you. Bob - K3MQ