Re: [digitalradio] Re: MultiPSK newest version
Thank you Juergen and Happy New Year. Maybe. Thank you for the explanation. Take care 73 Omar YK1AO - Original Message - From: dl8le To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:16 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: MultiPSK newest version Hello Omar, as far as I know the latest version of Multipsk is 4.6. Could it be that you have mixed this with the new DXKeeper 6.0x? 73, HNY Juergen, DL8LE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "o." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Group and Happy New Year; > > I have MultiPSK Ver. 6 but lately I have noted in the group talk about Ver.6 * > > Can anybody confirm please? > > 73 > > de > > Omar YK1AO >
[digitalradio] 6000 Users of ALE Channel ZERO in 2007
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[digitalradio] Re: Text message passed ok via VBdigi texas to KH6 land
> We did this between Illinois and Texas, and between North Carolina and > Texas > so we did not have the benefit of NVIS. This probably increased our > retries. > > Can we control the size of transmitted units? Or does the program reduce > unit > size in difficult conditions? > > Thanks for a great package. We will be trying it out on VHF as well. > > Howard K5HB Howard, in Flarq, go to configure and look at the values in the right-hand column. More specifically, the Exponent is a 2^N factor which delineates the size of the text data block that is transmitted in a data frame. 2^5 is 32 and should be satisfactory for most s/n conditions. If you are experiencing many repeats you can lower the Exponent value. If the path between rx and tx stations is very good you could increase its value. Since I have concentrated on testing on VHF (two meters) where there is little QSB to contend with, I use the default values will great success. It may take some experimenting on HF to find the optimum values for the items in the rightmost column. In my QSO with Russ, he sent a one-line message and that required no repeats, probably because the fading was over a long period compared to the message and when it started and stopped. I'd be interested in hearing what values you find are usually best on fading HF paths. The degree and frequency of the fading will probably depend upon the time of day. A major point is that the message always gets though without any errors, even if it takes a little longer than it would with optimum settings. You must have been working at the threshold of readability, since PSK125 did not do as well as PSK63. PSK63 has a 3 dB S/N advantage over PSK125, but is half the speed. Anyway, great test of the NBEMS! Thanks! 73, Skip Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS available for beta testing
Steinar Aanesland wrote: > Hi Andy, > > 7072 is not best the freq in my part of the world . Heavy QRM from SSB. > But I will try copy you > of course ;) > > 73 de LA5VNA Steinar > OK, I've got NBEMS running, and decoding signals on 20M, and I've run FLARQ and the file folders appear to be OK. So, what can I do now? Does anyone in Europe want to have a play at swapping files etc.? I don't think I'll be dedicating a permanent station for this system, but it looks as if it might be interesting to have a play with. Dave (G0DJA)
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS
Dave, Do not try to type at the same time you are linked with another station, because flarq is going to be sending keystrokes to VBdigi, often at the same time as you try to type. As you point out, NBEMS is a messaging system, not a chat system. It is also primarily for 2m emergency messaging, or NVIS on HF, where there is little QSB to contend with. The best way to play with it is to first establish contact without using Flarq. Then one of you presses the beacon button and takes it from there, only sending a stored email, stored text message, or picture and don't type until the progress bar on Flarq has progressed from white to green to full green and then white again. 73, Skip KH6TY > Oh dear, fist trial with NBEMS was not a happy one, for me, I'm afraid... > > Appart from not knowing my way round the program, which is not the fault > of the program of course, I also had terrible trouble with it missing > keystrokes. > > Either it gave lowercase where I wanted uppercase, or it missed space > bar keystrokes and it even missed several letters if I did not slowly > and deliberately hit the keys as I transmitted. > > Appologies to the LY2 station who tried to work me on 20M today, if he's > logged onto this reflector, I accidentally clicked on the Beacon and he > responded and it went downhill from there. > > I guess it's not meant to be a chat mode system, but I'll be warry of > how I play with it from now on! I'm using Windows 2000 pro on a 1.9GHZ > AMD Sempron with a fair amount of RAM, if that helps debugging what was > going wrong. > > Dave (G0DJA) >
[digitalradio] NBEMS
Oh dear, fist trial with NBEMS was not a happy one, for me, I'm afraid... Appart from not knowing my way round the program, which is not the fault of the program of course, I also had terrible trouble with it missing keystrokes. Either it gave lowercase where I wanted uppercase, or it missed space bar keystrokes and it even missed several letters if I did not slowly and deliberately hit the keys as I transmitted. Appologies to the LY2 station who tried to work me on 20M today, if he's logged onto this reflector, I accidentally clicked on the Beacon and he responded and it went downhill from there. I guess it's not meant to be a chat mode system, but I'll be warry of how I play with it from now on! I'm using Windows 2000 pro on a 1.9GHZ AMD Sempron with a fair amount of RAM, if that helps debugging what was going wrong. Dave (G0DJA)
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS
kh6ty wrote: > Dave, > > Do not try to type at the same time you are linked with another station, > because flarq is going to be sending keystrokes to VBdigi, often at the same > time as you try to type. As you point out, NBEMS is a messaging system, not > a chat system. It is also primarily for 2m emergency messaging, or NVIS on > HF, where there is little QSB to contend with. > > The best way to play with it is to first establish contact without using > Flarq. Then one of you presses the beacon button and takes it from there, > only sending a stored email, stored text message, or picture and don't type > until the progress bar on Flarq has progressed from white to green to full > green and then white again. > > 73, Skip > KH6TY > I did unkey the beacon button, but I guess that putting the other persons callsign in the 'Callsign' box enables FLARQ? QSB is a major problem, of course, with the bands the way they are. And I'm guessing that the fading you get on bands like 23cm are going to make it difficult to use those bands as well? I guess there might be some interest for JOTA. Other than the age old 'Radio verses non-Radio' communications I'm thinking this may not get a great following in the UK/Europe. But, I could be wrong. I'll certainly do some more reading before touching the TX button again! Dave (G0DJA)
[digitalradio] NBEMS help snapshot
http://w1hkj.com/FlarqHelpFiles/flarq.html 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
[digitalradio] 160m
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[digitalradio] NBEMS problem
I went ahead today and lashed up a temporary set up so I can key up my old Kenwood TS-440SAT from my sound card. I don't have separate PTT COM serial port keying (only CI-V rig control not supported by this software) and so can not use my ICOM 756 Pro 2 for now. The 440 seems to test fine with Multipsk but oddly, when I run the vbdigi program, I can key the rig via VOX operation and send out what seems like a reasonably good signal, but I can not detect anything on the waterfall. It just remains blank no matter what. I must be doing something wrong. Suggestions? 73, Rick, KV9U
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode properly into text? Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi? Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer? First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the transceiver. Skip KH6TY - Original Message - From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem >I went ahead today and lashed up a temporary set up so I can key up my > old Kenwood TS-440SAT from my sound card. I don't have separate PTT COM > serial port keying (only CI-V rig control not supported by this > software) and so can not use my ICOM 756 Pro 2 for now. > > The 440 seems to test fine with Multipsk but oddly, when I run the > vbdigi program, I can key the rig via VOX operation and send out what > seems like a reasonably good signal, but I can not detect anything on > the waterfall. It just remains blank no matter what. I must be doing > something wrong. Suggestions? > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
Hi Skip, I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive and no random printing to the screen from noise either. Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no rig control to CI-V). Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth and trying all sound card positions including Windows default. I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I usually use that card. The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal when monitoring on the other rig. Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine with Multipsk for both RX and TX. Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug. 73, Rick, KV9U kh6ty wrote: > Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode > properly into text? > > Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi? > > Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer? > > First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit > problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the > transceiver. > > Skip KH6TY > > >
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
OK, this makes more sense. Maybe we should work this out off the reflector and not bother everyone until we find an answer. Please email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first thing to do is run a cable from the earphone jack of the transceiver into the computer mic input and see if there is anything on the waterfall. I've never run into such a problem, so it must be easy to track down. I'll look for your email Skip - Original Message - From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem > Hi Skip, > > I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive > and no random printing to the screen from noise either. > Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no > rig control to CI-V). > > Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth > and trying all sound card positions including Windows default. > > I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and > an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I > usually use that card. > > The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just > keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the > vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and > the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal > when monitoring on the other rig. > > Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the > pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could > not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken > connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine > with Multipsk for both RX and TX. > > Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK > RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for > many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out > from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug. > > 73, > > Rick, KV9U > > > > kh6ty wrote: >> Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode >> properly into text? >> >> Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi? >> >> Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer? >> >> First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit >> problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the >> transceiver. >> >> Skip KH6TY >> >> >> > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 11:29 AM
Re: [digitalradio] 6000 Users of ALE Channel ZERO in 2007
On Thursday 03 January 2008 06:43:34 am Mark Thompson wrote: > 6000 Users of ALE Channel ZERO in 2007 > > The ALE Channel ZERO website went on the air in August 2007, with reception > reporting of ham radio ALE activity worldwide and a chat room for ALE > operators. > > Bonnie Crystal, VR2/KQ6XA reports that since then > http://hflink.net/qso has had 5971 unique visitors, Unique visits is an uncorrelated figure. How many of those were the same person using a DSL or Modem. You get a new IP address every time you hook up. How many of them were looking for beer and found ale? It'd be more useful to know how many distinct users logged in.
Re: [digitalradio] 6000 Users of ALE Channel ZERO in 2007
At 09:43 PM 1/3/2008, you wrote: 6000 Users of ALE Channel ZERO in 2007 The ALE Channel ZERO website went on the air in August 2007, with reception reporting of ham radio ALE activity worldwide and a chat room for ALE operators. Its sure would be good to have a page like Channel Zero...setup for Pactor & Packet ;-) 73s Jack VK4JRC
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
It makes sense to me. If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the soundcard settings you want to use. I have the same setting as you, I have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card. The "default" Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to rig audio cables connected to the internal card. So, in DVdigi, I set mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall. Andy K3UK On Jan 3, 2008 6:19 PM, kh6ty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > OK, this makes more sense. > > Maybe we should work this out off the reflector and not bother everyone > until we find an answer. > > Please email me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The first thing to do is run a cable from the earphone jack of the > transceiver into the computer mic input and see if there is anything on the > waterfall. > > I've never run into such a problem, so it must be easy to track down. > > I'll look for your email > > Skip > > > - Original Message - > From: "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 6:10 PM > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem > > > Hi Skip, > > > > I have not been able to display anything on the waterfall for receive > > and no random printing to the screen from noise either. > > Same thing with both rigs on receive (I can't TX with the Pro 2 since no > > rig control to CI-V). > > > > Both sound cards were tried for both programs, switching back and forth > > and trying all sound card positions including Windows default. > > > > I have the built in Realtek Sound Card in this emachines computer, and > > an add on Creative Soundblaster Live! which is more accurate and I > > usually use that card. > > > > The receive and transmit work fine with Multipsk (no rig control, just > > keying the VOX) on either card for TX and RX decoding, but with the > > vbdigi there is TX via toggling the Tune button or the T/R button and > > the rig seems to transmit quite well and I think with a clean signal > > when monitoring on the other rig. > > > > Having done this kind of set up for many years and knowing of the > > pitfalls, I have not had a case where you could transmit OK but could > > not display anything on the waterfall unless there was a broken > > connection someplace. That does not seem possible since it works fine > > with Multipsk for both RX and TX. > > > > Just to clarify, I am using VOX to key the Kenwood TS-440 via the AFSK > > RCA jacks after I re-discovered (have not used this for digital for > > many, many years) that it can not be driven adequately via the Line out > > from the sound card when using the 13 pin DIN plug. > > > > 73, > > > > Rick, KV9U > > > > > > > > kh6ty wrote: > >> Rick, do you receive PSK31 signals on the waterfall, and do they decode > >> properly into text? > >> > >> Does the 756 Pro 2 do the same with VBdigi? > >> > >> Do you have more than one soundcard/sound system in the computer? > >> > >> First we must establish that receive works and then address the transmit > >> problem. You can always use VOX for PTT if you use the mic input of the > >> transceiver. > >> > >> Skip KH6TY > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1207 - Release Date: 1/2/2008 > 11:29 AM > > -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
[digitalradio] Re: DigitalRadio sked page 2.0-RC1
looks good Joe, seems a bit faster also. Yes a few minor Bugs... Hey can you make it so the first Screen that comes up is the Login Screen? Ahh maybe not such a good Idea... if someone just wan't to see ... without posting. Anyway cool rewrite Thanks Steve
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
Hi Andy, We have been trying to isolate the problem, but no luck as yet. I do of course use SC #2 since my SB Live! card is the secondary card. (Naturally, I tried all kinds of other combinations too just in case, but no luck there). Other programs, including Digipan, and even programs I have not been able to transmit in the past, work quite nicely with VOX keying of the TS-440, including Chip64. When you loaded your software, did you get a warning that a file was newer on your computer and that it recommended you keep the file? In my case it was one of the system32 files: MSCOMCTL.OCX. 73, Rick, KV9U Andrew O'Brien wrote: > It makes sense to me. > > If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the > soundcard settings you want to use. I have the same setting as you, I > have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card. > The "default" Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to > rig audio cables connected to the internal card. So, in DVdigi, I set > mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall. > > Andy K3UK > >
[digitalradio] Pactor & Packet Spot Page now up.
Hi all Pactor & Packet people, Sholto, KE7HPV has been kind enough to put up a spot page for Pactor & Packet operators. See http://www.projectsandparts.com/pactor/ Hope this will stir up some interest Thanks Sholto :-) 73s Jack VK4JRC
[digitalradio] NBEMS testing
Looking forward to trying the software. Have it installed using sylpheed software rather than Microsoft outlook express. The way this sets up, it would be a simple matter to move messages from the internet to the outbox using flarq is pass the traffic Hope that I can find Sholto or Terry (or ?)on in the AM . Will be listening on 10137.0 1000hz Man , with Sylpheed, Flarq, and vbdigi, I feel like I have fallen into a linux rabbit-hole hi hi John VE5MU
[digitalradio] Re: NBEMS testing
Hi John, If you want to set up a sked this weekend let me know. I use Winmail to genrate NBEMS data mostly because I hate Outlook :) Also, to be fair, FLARQ seemed to prefer the Winmail format to any Outlook file I could generate. Maybe outlook express does better but not willing to chance it. And feel comfort in that vbdigi is a Windows app. So far I am very impressed with NBEMS's performance..especially considering it was not meant for non-NVIS HF pathsfor non-NVIS HF paths you might consider lowering the FLARQ "exponent" parameter to 2 or 3it shortens frame length and makes for less re-tries. 73, Bill N9DSJ --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looking forward to trying the software. Have it installed using sylpheed > software rather than Microsoft outlook express. > > > > The way this sets up, it would be a simple matter to move messages from the > internet to the outbox using flarq is pass the traffic > > Hope that I can find Sholto or Terry (or ?)on in the AM . Will be listening > on 10137.0 1000hz > > > > Man , with Sylpheed, Flarq, and vbdigi, I feel like I have fallen into a > linux rabbit-hole hi hi > > > > John > > VE5MU >
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
Rick wrote: > When you loaded your software, did you get a warning that a file was > newer on your computer and that it recommended you keep the file? In my > case it was one of the system32 files: MSCOMCTL.OCX. > > Yes, that is a known issue. You should have kept the newer file. Dave (G0DJA)
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS problem
Andrew O'Brien wrote: > It makes sense to me. > > If you have TWO soundcards set in your PC, you need to tell VBdigi the > soundcard settings you want to use. I have the same setting as you, I > have an internal motherboard based souncard and a Creative PCI card. > The "default" Windows souncard is the PCI car BUT I have all the PC to > rig audio cables connected to the internal card. So, in DVdigi, I set > mine to SC 2 and all came alive in the waterfall. > When you have set the card, go into Control Panel and then Sounds and Multimedia Properties. Select the soundcard you want to use and make sure the correct Line In is selected under the Audio tab by clicking on Recording Device and select the appropriate soundcard. You may find that, if you want to use Line In which is the prefered option, that microphone is selected, or vice versa. Dave (G0DJA)
[digitalradio] JT65A - gotaway
If only I didn't have to sleep! Found a load of the following CQ calls on 80M, from leaving WSJT running overnight... 034600 3 -16 1.6 100 3 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 034700 0 -15 3.3 -471 3 034800 5 -15 1.6 100 3 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 034900 0 -15 8.1 -471 3 035000 3 -17 1.7 100 3 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 035100 0 -16 5.4 108 3 035200 4 -16 1.6 100 3 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 035300 0 -16 -1.9 -471 3 035400 5 -16 1.8 100 1 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 035500 0 -15 6.7 108 3 035600 2 -18 1.9 100 1 * CQ KD5JGA EM161 0 Oh well. Dave (G0DJA)
