Re: [Discuss] Trying to install Tor on Fedora

[Nancy Allison]

Thank you so much for this informative answer, Mike!

I foolhardily went ahead and did manage to run the installation file --
after John Abreau kindly helped me out and explained, among other things,
that Nautilus won't run an executable like the Tor starter file. When I
opened Gladiator or Warrior or Conquistador -- sorry, I don't have it in
front of me and Im forgetting the name -- another file manager, anyway --
and double-clicked the file, it RAN. Hallelujah! So now I have Tor!!!  For
a while, it kept wanting to download itself again but I hope that's over.
I'm kind of scared to reboot and see if it keeps doing that but tomorrow is
another day!

I will read over the rest of your email and definitely follow the PGP
steps, I want to understand that better.

Thank you again. Your helpfulness and John's and Rich's have been so
generous, I really appreciate it.

--Nancy



On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 4:09 PM Mike Small  wrote:

> Nancy Allison  writes:
>
> > Hi, all. I sent this reply to Rich but forgot to include the list.
> >
> > I am your Test Case par excellence: someone trying to use Fedora who is
> not
> > terribly technical. Can Linux be used by people for whom it is really a
> > challenge, even things that to technical people are obvious? Here is a
> > distillation of the later discussion with Rich.
>
> The Tor project may be interested in your feedback. Maybe once you get
> torbrowser going you could let them know where their instructions weren't
> clear. My impression is they want their stuff to be accessible to
> everyone, but it's not a huge project and they wouldn't have the money
> to check if their instructions are useful to as large a cross section of
> people as they would hope.
>
> Also, it's not easy on Linux to give this kind of direction since we all
> get to choose (as we should) what programs we'll use to access and run
> other programs, e.g. what desktop environment, whether we like nautilus,
> kde's file manager, or if we instead will run with something more spare
> like twm and use rox-filer as the file manager. Or maybe someone prefers
> to use a plan 9 text editor named acme, which makes a pretty decent file
> manager as well, or to use emacs's dired mode, or only to use the
> terminal to navigate. Point is, it's not possible to give the kind of
> step by step instruction with screen shots you'll see in those very fat
> books in the computer section and Barnes and Noble, because you can't
> know exactly what people are running. The fallback is often to give
> instructions one can run at a terminal program using the command
> line. That's all that can be assumed to be universally available.
>
> And Windows, in as much as it's simpler by foisting their mall
> kioskesque disaster of a UI on everyone, still manages not to be that
> great, in fact. Just the other day, on the laptop my employer makes
> me run a proprietary operating system on I had to do this:
>
>
> https://www.tenforums.com/browsers-email/101100-make-firefox-default-app-web-browser.html
>
> I suppose myself to be fairly technical, but I could not figure that out
> on my own. (Btw. for all the talk about Microsoft being Linux friendly
> with WSL or whatever, I noted in this configuration screen a message
> suggesting that by using firefox or anything other than MS's new browser
> as the default that I may not be doing what's best for my system. That
> would have provoked roars of disapproval back in the day. Maybe
> Microsoft hasn't gotten better. Maybe we've just gotten used to even
> worse treatement by the new 800 pound gorillas out there, the Apples and
> the Google/Samsung/Verizon/Android "who does this phone belong to
> anyway?" style environments.)
>
> >
> > I downloaded the Linux file from the Tor site and it opened
> automatically.
> > The next step I need to take is
>
> In case you want to do the verification step, I'll try to give
> instructions to use at a command prompt (run a program named terminal or
> xterm or gnome-terminal, whatever you can find along those lines in your
> menus). There may be a UI to do this, but I'm not familiar with what's
> out there like that. Once you've got a prompt up in such a terminal
> emulator program you can type the commands below:
>
> 1. change directories to where the tor software archive and the
> corresponding signature (.asc) was downloaded.
> e.g. ...
> cd Download
>
> 2. try running gpg to verify the file:
>
> $ gpg --verify tor-browser-linux64-8.0.8_en-US.tar.xz.asc
> tor-browser-linux64-8.0.8_en-US.tar.xz
> gpg: Signature made Fri 22 Mar 2019 07:47:17 PM EDT using RSA key ID
> D9FF06E2
> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
>
> 3. Since you probably also don't have the public key from the

Re: [Discuss] Trying to install Tor on Fedora

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all. I sent this reply to Rich but forgot to include the list.

I am your Test Case par excellence: someone trying to use Fedora who is not
terribly technical. Can Linux be used by people for whom it is really a
challenge, even things that to technical people are obvious? Here is a
distillation of the later discussion with Rich.

I downloaded the Linux file from the Tor site and it opened automatically.
The next step I need to take is

> > 4. Run the start-tor-browser script.

But I don't know how to do that. What is the file name of the script? There
is no file called "script." Once I know what file it is, do I need to do
something in the command window, like

>
> sudo run 

Re: [Discuss] Trying to install Tor on Fedora

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, Rich.

Thanks for these instructions.

I went to the tor site and downloaded the files associated with the penguin
cartoon. I assumed that was Linux. I now have a directory containing these
two files:


   - tor-browser-linux64-8.0.9_en-US -- Oh, this is a folder name.
   - tor-browser-linux64-8.0.9_en-US.tar.xz -- this is a file that looks
   like a box


I don't know how to verify the PGP and am skipping that step because I am
foolhardy.

I've opened the folder. It contains two items:


   - A folder called Browser
   - a file called start-tor-browser.desktop -- I doubleclicked this, and
   it is now in a text editor.


It is full of instructions that assume a greater level of technical
knowledge than I have.

Rich, what do I do now? Thanks very much.

--Nancy


On Tue, May 7, 2019 at 7:29 PM Rich Pieri  wrote:

> On Tue, 7 May 2019 18:47:59 -0400
> Nancy Allison  wrote:
>
> > What do I do to make this work? Thanks for all help.
>
> 1. Throw out anything that tells you to use anyone's package manager.
> I don't know whether or not they're lying and neither do you. If you're
> using Tor Browser then by definition the only organization that can be
> trusted is Tor Project.
>
> 2. Go to torproject.org and download the tar.xz file.
> 2a. Verify the GPG signature.
>
> 3. Unpack the tar.gz file.
>
> 4. Run the start-tor-browser script.
>
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[Discuss] Trying to install Tor on Fedora

[Nancy Allison]

I am trying to install Tor on my Fedora 29 machine.

I found a handy page (
https://www.hiroom2.com/2018/11/28/fedora-29-torbrowser-en/) that contains
two simple steps.

The first step (sudo dnf install -y torbrowser-launcher) gave every
appearance of succeeding. was:

The second step ($ torbrowser-launcher) produces this error message:

bash: $: command not found ...

What do I do to make this work? Thanks for all help.

--Nancy
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[Discuss] Who here makes house calls?

[Nancy Allison]

Seriously, I am so frustrated and disgusted I will not visit one more site
and follow one more set of incomprehensible suggestions.

I have previously gotten my Brother HL-L2320D and HP Envy 4502 to work with
Linux 16.04 and Fedora 28. I cannot get them to work with Fedora 29. NOTE:
I have never, ever had a painless outcome when updating a Linux distro.
Every single time, whether Ubunto or Fedora, something major has broken.

Currently,  both printers show up in the Printers utility for Fedora 29.
They show up in LibreOffice but neither will print. Neither shows when I
attempt to print a PDF. I have already tried various suggestions relating
to CUPS and the Brother driver. I need someone else's expertise to solve
this for me. I am sick of struggling with this stuff.

Seriously, who on this list can help with this and is willing to make a
house call (for pay, of course).

--Nancy
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[Discuss] playing "mvimg" .jpg files

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I have an android phone (Pixel 2). I sometimes inadvertently take a video
when I mean to take a photo, and so I have various video files. I would at
least like to view them, but when I load them into my fedora 29 laptop and
double-click on them, they do not run.

The filename format is MVIMG_alphanumeric.jpg.

How do I get then to run?

Thanks.

--Nancy
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Re: [Discuss] InstallFest: Repair broken laptop screen

[Nancy Allison]

Nope, Bill, I'd remember if it was you.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 12:39 PM Bill Ricker  wrote:

> if that was me, i would have said I'd read the HOW TO for doing that to
> one of my own Lenovo's and decided it wasn't worth it.
> (so probably not me.)
>
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 11:22 AM Nancy Allison 
> wrote:
>
>> At a previous InstallFest, someone was mentioned to me who knows how to
>> repair broken laptop screens. I can't find where I scribbled down his
>> name.
>> (Shoulda used Google Docs but used paper; when will I learn.)
>>
>> Does anyone know who that might be? Thanks.
>>
>> --Nancy
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[Discuss] InstallFest: Repair broken laptop screen

[Nancy Allison]

At a previous InstallFest, someone was mentioned to me who knows how to
repair broken laptop screens. I can't find where I scribbled down his name.
(Shoulda used Google Docs but used paper; when will I learn.)

Does anyone know who that might be? Thanks.

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Re: [Discuss] Fedora 28 Doesn't See External DVD Drive on USB Port

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, David.

Thank you very much for this information. Sorry it has taken me this long
to respond to it!

I ran the cat command and for once something I did in the Terminal window
worked immediately. Here is what it gave me:

#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Thu Jul 19 00:01:06 2018
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root /   ext4
defaults1 1
UUID=84fb2b0b-8657-4e21-ba3a-35a140c62cb1 /boot   ext4
defaults1 2
UUID=BC87-05C2  /boot/efi   vfat
umask=0077,shortname=winnt 0 2
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home /home   ext4
defaults1 2
/dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-swap swapswap
defaults0 0

Since I last wrote anything, I've successfully plugged in an ancient HP
Personal Media Drive, which showed up immediately. (Now if I could just
find a way to read the qic files on it ...) So Nautilus successfully
idenfied a new device (which the fstab file should show, right?)

Maybe the DVD drive is just a bum drive. It shows up in Windows, though ...

Thanks for the information you provided.

--Nancy



On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:51 PM David Kramer  wrote:

> I doubt the solution to that other person's problem is the same one you
> are having, but it's possible.  Let me explain it in more detail,
> because it actually has nothing to do with external DVD drives
> specifically, which is muddying the waters.
>
> These days, most storage devices emulate the old SCSI (Small Computer
> System Interface) standard at the API level. That is, the hardware is
> different, but the commands that an OS or BIOS would send to an old SCSI
> drive.  That's why the devices are named /dev/sda, dev/sdb, etc.  The
> devices are named in order as they are discovered, so the main drive is
> /dev/sda, and if you have a second disk it would be /dev/sdb.
>
> Partitions are named by appending the partition number to the device
> they are on.  The first partition on the first device is /dev/sda1, and
> the second partition would be /dev/sda2.
>
> Let's say you plug in a thumb drive after that.  That would be the third
> disk, so it would be /dev/sdc.   If you then plugged in your external
> DVD drive, it would probably be /dev/sdd.  That all works pretty well.
>
> Here's the problem: Let's say you have some configuration file, whatever
> it is, that refers to a disk, because you have a second hard drive in
> your computer.  let's call it /dev/sdb.  Now let's say you plug in your
> external DVD player and it comes up as /dev/sdc, and all is right with
> the world.
>
> BUT: If you remove that second drive from your computer and there is no
> longer a /dev/sdb, and you do not update that configuration file, then
> when you add your external DVD player, it will come up as /dev/sdb
> instead.  That configuration file is telling your computer that /dev/sdb
> is something else.  And there we have the problem.
>
> Now this file in particular, /etc/fstab (and you need to use sudo to
> edit it) tells the computer what each drive is for and how to mount it
> and to where.  It is a BAD file to have incorrect information in for
> that reason, and that is the problem described in your mail.  I doubt
> that's your problem, but if you send us the contents of that file, we
> may be able to confirm.
>
> Some good news: There IS a better way. Partitions can also be identified
> by user-specified labels, and that eliminates the whole
> who-got-connected-first problem. It also lets you set up rules, like
> automatically mounting THIS particular external USB device, but not this
> other one.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
> On 12/29/18 10:12 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Thank you, Dan.
> >
> > You've provided some details that I can follow, but I am not well enough
> > grounded to know how I would use them. (For example, I have no idea where
> > fstab lives or how I get to it.) If I can find someone to help me out
> > painstakingly, with a generous donation of their time and effort, I
> (they,
> > really) can undoubtedly fix the problem. I may wait until the next
> > InstallFest for help.
> >
> > But this leaves me wondering, can it really be that everyone using Fedora
> > 28 struggles along with this same problem that obviously affects plenty
> of
> > people? CDs and DVDs are not used as much as they once were, but they are
> > still in use. If you google "fedora 28 doesn't recognize external dvd
> > drive" you get people struggling with this back in 2010 and 2011. Is this
> > what Fedora is like -- everyone struggles with prob

Re: [Discuss] Fedora 28 Doesn't See External DVD Drive on USB Port

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, Charles!

Windows 10 sees it.

It is connected through a USB only, but I see a connector with a round pin
in it, so maybe it also has a power cord. I've been googling to see what
comes with it, but it is an odd product and information is scarce and I
can't tell if it originally shipped with a power cord. It's a few years
old.

Windows Device Manager identifies it as TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-L632H ATA Device.

If I can identify a separate power cord, would that make a difference?

Thanks!

--Nancy


On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:01 PM Anderson, Charles R  wrote:

> Ok, so the kernel is not seeing the USB device.  Does the drive and USB
> cable work on another computer?  Does it work on the same computer with a
> different OS?  Does the DVD drive have a separate power cord and are you
> plugging that in, or are you relying on USB to power the drive directly?
>
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 06:44:47PM -0500, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > Charles, Fedora 28 was installed fresh; Ubuntu had been on the system
> > previously.
> >
> > I ran the lsusb command first before connecting the DVD drive and again
> > after. The list of devices did not change.
> >
> > Here is the output of the two commands:
> >
> > [theauthor@new-host-2 ~]$ lsusb
> > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
> > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> > Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
> > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 13d3:5652 IMC Networks
> > Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
> > Bus 002 Device 006: ID 04f9:0062 Brother Industries, Ltd
> > Bus 002 Device 064: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
> > Bus 002 Device 063: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub
> > Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0409:0058 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
> > Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0424:2507 Standard Microsystems Corp. hub
> > Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
> > [theauthor@new-host-2 ~]$ dmesg | grep sd
> > [1.585719] ahci :00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo only pio
> slum
> > part deso sadm sds apst
> > [1.923206] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
> > [1.923302] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 1465149168 512-byte logical blocks: (750
> > GB/699 GiB)
> > [1.923341] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> > [1.923346] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> > [1.923462] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache:
> enabled,
> > doesn't support DPO or FUA
> > [2.035151]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
> > [2.035429] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
> > [   27.766377] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
> > Opts: (null)
> > [19434.731622] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
> > [19434.903269] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
> > [19435.577907] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:48 PM Anderson, Charles R 
> wrote:
> >
> > > No it certainly is not the case that everyone using Fedora 28 has
> > > problems with external drives.  Was your system upgraded to Fedora 28
> > > from an earlier Fedora version, or was it installed fresh?  I ask
> > > because I've never had these issues, but I always install fresh rather
> > > than do upgrades.
> > >
> > > /etc/fstab is a file that contains the listing of each filesystem on
> > > each device.  If you open a command line Terminal and type:
> > >
> > > cat /etc/fstab
> > >
> > > you can see what yours has in it.  However, I don't think this is
> > > related your problem--but we can return to this possibility later
> > > after checking a few things.
> > >
> > > The URL you posted refers to external hard disks or flash drives, not
> > > CD/DVD drives.  Modern Fedora systems do not have removable media
> > > devices listed in /etc/fstab.  Instead, they are mounted by udev
> > > automatically when the device is connected (and media is inserted).
> > > This is the udev configuration file that controls this process for
> > > CD/DVD drives:
> > >
> > > cat /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules
> > >
> > > But this is informational if you wanted to know how this stuff is
> > > supposed to work under the hood--you shouldn't need to edit anything
> > > there.
> > >
> > > After you plug in the USB, does the USB device show up in "lsusb"?
> > > Open a terminal and run these two commands:
> > >
> > > lsusb
> > >
> > >

Re: [Discuss] Fedora 28 Doesn't See External DVD Drive on USB Port

[Nancy Allison]

Hello, all.

Charles, Fedora 28 was installed fresh; Ubuntu had been on the system
previously.

I ran the lsusb command first before connecting the DVD drive and again
after. The list of devices did not change.

Here is the output of the two commands:

[theauthor@new-host-2 ~]$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 13d3:5652 IMC Networks
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:07dc Intel Corp.
Bus 002 Device 006: ID 04f9:0062 Brother Industries, Ltd
Bus 002 Device 064: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
Bus 002 Device 063: ID 1a40:0101 Terminus Technology Inc. Hub
Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0409:0058 NEC Corp. HighSpeed Hub
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0424:2507 Standard Microsystems Corp. hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[theauthor@new-host-2 ~]$ dmesg | grep sd
[1.585719] ahci :00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo only pio slum
part deso sadm sds apst
[1.923206] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
[1.923302] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 1465149168 512-byte logical blocks: (750
GB/699 GiB)
[1.923341] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
[1.923346] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
[1.923462] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled,
doesn't support DPO or FUA
[2.035151]  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
[2.035429] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk
[   27.766377] EXT4-fs (sda2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Opts: (null)
[19434.731622] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Synchronizing SCSI cache
[19434.903269] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk
[19435.577907] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk




On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 11:48 PM Anderson, Charles R  wrote:

> No it certainly is not the case that everyone using Fedora 28 has
> problems with external drives.  Was your system upgraded to Fedora 28
> from an earlier Fedora version, or was it installed fresh?  I ask
> because I've never had these issues, but I always install fresh rather
> than do upgrades.
>
> /etc/fstab is a file that contains the listing of each filesystem on
> each device.  If you open a command line Terminal and type:
>
> cat /etc/fstab
>
> you can see what yours has in it.  However, I don't think this is
> related your problem--but we can return to this possibility later
> after checking a few things.
>
> The URL you posted refers to external hard disks or flash drives, not
> CD/DVD drives.  Modern Fedora systems do not have removable media
> devices listed in /etc/fstab.  Instead, they are mounted by udev
> automatically when the device is connected (and media is inserted).
> This is the udev configuration file that controls this process for
> CD/DVD drives:
>
> cat /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/60-cdrom_id.rules
>
> But this is informational if you wanted to know how this stuff is
> supposed to work under the hood--you shouldn't need to edit anything
> there.
>
> After you plug in the USB, does the USB device show up in "lsusb"?
> Open a terminal and run these two commands:
>
> lsusb
>
> dmesg | grep sd
>
> and paste the output in an email reply.
>
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 10:12:22PM -0500, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Thank you, Dan.
> >
> > You've provided some details that I can follow, but I am not well enough
> > grounded to know how I would use them. (For example, I have no idea where
> > fstab lives or how I get to it.) If I can find someone to help me out
> > painstakingly, with a generous donation of their time and effort, I
> (they,
> > really) can undoubtedly fix the problem. I may wait until the next
> > InstallFest for help.
> >
> > But this leaves me wondering, can it really be that everyone using Fedora
> > 28 struggles along with this same problem that obviously affects plenty
> of
> > people? CDs and DVDs are not used as much as they once were, but they are
> > still in use. If you google "fedora 28 doesn't recognize external dvd
> > drive" you get people struggling with this back in 2010 and 2011. Is this
> > what Fedora is like -- everyone struggles with problems individually? And
> > you really have to have a lot of technical knowledge to deal with these
> > problems as they come up. Maybe Fedora is just too tecchie for me, but it
> > seems as if Ubuntu was, too, when I used it before Fedora. Maybe Red Hat
> is
> > easier for a non-technical person to handle?
> >
> > Just thinking out loud. Thanks for the additional info.
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 7:12 PM Dan Ritter  wrote:
> >
> > > Nancy Allison wrote:
> > > > Hi, all.
> > > >
> > > > When I plug in my extern

Re: [Discuss] Fedora 28 Doesn't See External DVD Drive on USB Port

[Nancy Allison]

Thank you, Dan.

You've provided some details that I can follow, but I am not well enough
grounded to know how I would use them. (For example, I have no idea where
fstab lives or how I get to it.) If I can find someone to help me out
painstakingly, with a generous donation of their time and effort, I (they,
really) can undoubtedly fix the problem. I may wait until the next
InstallFest for help.

But this leaves me wondering, can it really be that everyone using Fedora
28 struggles along with this same problem that obviously affects plenty of
people? CDs and DVDs are not used as much as they once were, but they are
still in use. If you google "fedora 28 doesn't recognize external dvd
drive" you get people struggling with this back in 2010 and 2011. Is this
what Fedora is like -- everyone struggles with problems individually? And
you really have to have a lot of technical knowledge to deal with these
problems as they come up. Maybe Fedora is just too tecchie for me, but it
seems as if Ubuntu was, too, when I used it before Fedora. Maybe Red Hat is
easier for a non-technical person to handle?

Just thinking out loud. Thanks for the additional info.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2018 at 7:12 PM Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > When I plug in my external disk drive into my Fedora 28 machine, it does
> > not show up in Nautilus.
> >
> > I go looking online, and, sure enough, this problem has occurred for
> plenty
> > of people for 5+ years over many releases of Fedora.
> >
> > I find a discussion in which someone evidently solved the problem. Here
> is
> > what the person reported:
> >
> > "NVM - found the cause. Old entry in fstab for a second swap not present
> on
> > sdb1 and first USB disks being assigned sdb. Cleaned that up and now all
> > drives plugging correctly.
> > Willtech ( Sep 23 '18 )"
> >
> > How do I apply this information? Where is fstab? When does a first swap
> > occur? When does a second swap occur? What does it mean to be assigned
> sdb?
>
> /etc/fstab consolidates mounting information.
>
> Each active line defines:
>
>  
>
> For example:
>
> /dev/scd0   /media/cdrom0   ISO9660 ro  1   1
>
> device/partition name, then where you want it mounted, then the
> type of filesystem.
>
> If you have a single disk called /dev/sda, for instance, you
> might see your external CD show up as /dev/sdb. If there's
> already a /dev/sdb listed in the file, that will conflict.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> -dsr-
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[Discuss] Fedora 28 Doesn't See External DVD Drive on USB Port

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

When I plug in my external disk drive into my Fedora 28 machine, it does
not show up in Nautilus.

I go looking online, and, sure enough, this problem has occurred for plenty
of people for 5+ years over many releases of Fedora.

I find a discussion in which someone evidently solved the problem. Here is
what the person reported:

"NVM - found the cause. Old entry in fstab for a second swap not present on
sdb1 and first USB disks being assigned sdb. Cleaned that up and now all
drives plugging correctly.
Willtech ( Sep 23 '18 )"

How do I apply this information? Where is fstab? When does a first swap
occur? When does a second swap occur? What does it mean to be assigned sdb?

Here is the URL to the entire discussion:

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/126908/fedora-28laptop-fails-to-mount-usb-disks/

All suggestions warmly welcomed. I sure would like to see that DVD drive
show up.

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[Discuss] Audacity has gone nuts

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Hi, all.

By any chance, does anyone on this list use Audacity? I used it to record
streaming content with no problem until it suddenly went nuts and provided
hugely distorted sound files, as if the volume had been turned up to 10. I
looked through the settings and even removed it and reinstalled it and
still got the same result.

I've looked in Audacity lists and found one question that was similar, but
I can't follow the discussion technically. I'm not that technical. Has
anyone on this list had a similar experience with Audacity? If so, how did
you solve the problem? Thanks.
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Re: [Discuss] Feedspot and other RSS Readers

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

Thank you for all the helpful comments. Liferea seems to be the right
solution for me! (I am nowhere near proficient enough in programming to use
some of the other options.)

Thank you, again.

--Nancy

On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:38 AM A. Richard Miller <
themill...@millermicro.com> wrote:

> Here is a little more info:
>
> Ubuntu recommends Liferea <https://lzone.de/liferea/>, which bills itself
> (in the Ubuntu Software Center) as THE web feed reader/news aggregator
> solution for Linux.
>
> However, Alternativeto.net agrees with Dan's comment, showing various
> Linux-friendly alternatives to Feedspot.
>
> I'll be interested in what works well for you.
>
> Cheers from
> --Dick Miller, Partner, MMS 
>Co-Leader, FOSS User Group at Natick Community-Senior Center
> <http://millermicro.com/FOSSUserGroupNatick.html> --
>
>
>
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>
> Sent from an awesome, inexpensive, no-lock-in, no-bloatware,
> virus-resistant, free-software, Linux <http://NatickFOSS.org/> PC - with
> Ubuntu <http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop> 18.10/Unity
> <https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-unity-desktop-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux>
> and draft Fotoxx <http://www.kornelix.net/fotoxx/fotoxx.html> 19.0.
>
>
> On 11/5/18 9:08 AM, Dan Ritter wrote:
>
> Nancy Allison:
>
> Hi, all.
>
> What do you use to aggregate the things you read? I've stumbled upon
> Feedspot, which costs $$, and I'm wondering if it is necesssary.
>
> Is this a Linux - vs- Windows- Vs- Apple issue, or am I confused and it
> doesn't matter what OS you use?
>
> If this question isn't really germane to BLU, just ignore!
>
>
> I have an instance of Tiny Tiny RSS running, which wants to run
> on a Linux server and can be accessed through a nice web front
> end or via clients.  https://tt-rss.org
>
> There are many others.
>
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[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

What do you use to aggregate the things you read? I've stumbled upon
Feedspot, which costs $$, and I'm wondering if it is necesssary.

Is this a Linux - vs- Windows- Vs- Apple issue, or am I confused and it
doesn't matter what OS you use?

If this question isn't really germane to BLU, just ignore!

Thanks!

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Re: [Discuss] Backing up the entire software installation

[Nancy Allison]

Thanks, everyone. All of this information is fantastic. I need to learn a
lot to put it into use, but I am an optimist ...

--Nancy

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 4:23 PM Rich Pieri  wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:12:00 -0500
> Derek Martin  wrote:
>
> > I don't sysadmin professionally anymore, but when I did, I also
> > preferred the same solutiion as Rich:  Don't back up OS and software,
> > do a fresh install.  And I still prefer that.  It's usually faster and
> > easier, and it also gives you a nice opportunity to update to more
> > recent versions of things, if you haven't been keeping up with
> > updates, or even update to a newer OS.
>
> While Debian itself is very easily upgraded to new major releases,
> Ubuntu isn't. Canonical have created tools to run in place upgrades. My
> experience with them is that if you're running a desktop environment
> then the target won't upgrade cleanly. Upgrades to console-only "server"
> installs are more likely to succeed.
>
> Red Hat have created tools to upgrade major releases (EL 6 to EL 7). My
> experience with them is that they are even less reliable than
> Canonical's, requiring the removal of all packages from third party and
> non-default yum repositories and the removal of those repositories. And
> maybe the upgrade will work and maybe it won't, and even if it does
> work you're still saddled with ext4 because that can't be converted in
> place to xfs.
>
> Avoid ext4 for anything important if at all possible.
>
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[Discuss] Backing up the entire software installation

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I have Fedora 28 and lots of programs installed. I use a backup for my
files, but I dread the day I have to start with a new computer and
reinstall all my programs.

Is it possible to create a copy of everything, my Fedora 28 operating
system, all the programs, all the nifty Firefox plug-ins, all my Favorites
-- everything? So if this hard drive died and I needed to get a new laptop,
I could copy over the entire contents of this computer without having to
recreate it?

If so, how would I do that?

If I can't do that, how can I at least generate some kind of list of
everything I have installed so I don't have to rack my brains trying to
remember everything I had on this box?

Thanks.

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Re: [Discuss] New BLU Wiki

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, Greg.

I'm used to Confluence, where I would find a Create button that would let
me create a new page. I don't see a control like that, but I do see an
opportunity to log in. Maybe then I would see the controls I can use? How
can I find out what my login is?

Thanks.

--Nancy

On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 9:17 AM Greg Rundlett (freephile) <
g...@freephile.com> wrote:

> (was Followup from InstallFest regarding typing of non-ASCII characters
> )
>
> In preparation for my BLU presentation next week about QualityBox, I turned
> this conversation into a wiki page in the new BLU Wiki at
> https://blu.qualitybox.us/wiki/Unicode Feel free to add/edit as you wish.
> I
> plan to use it as an example.  For anyone who really wants to play around
> in the new wiki, I suggest copying the page contents to your own user page,
> and / or making a 'Sandbox' page
> .
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg
>
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[Discuss] Jekyll Developer/Teacher Needed

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I am trying to develop a Jekyll website and am getting hung up. I  followed
a couple of youtube videos and downloaded all kinds of Ruby tools, but
still I"m getting error messages telling me that a gem is missing. When I
try to figure out what to do, I get still more error messages.

I can struggle forever, or I can pay someone who knows how to do it and who
is willing to teach me so I can handle it on my own from then on. So, I am
looking for someone to help me develop this blog page, and I am willing to
pay for it.

Would anyone on this group be interested, or would you know anyone who can
develop a blog with Jekyll? A Linked-In search turns up a lot of people who
know Jekyll, but they seem to have different job titles, not really website
developers. I really need some help! I want to run a blog and I don't want
to be dependent on the Wordpress monster. Been there, done that.

All suggestions gladly received.

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Re: [Discuss] International Keyboard for Fedora 28

[Nancy Allison]

Thanks, Jerry.

I have a beginning problem, which is that I don't know what "keymaps"
refers to, a graphic that will show me how the keyboard is laid out, or the
actual programming that will install the alternate keyboard layout in
Fedora so I can switch to it when I want to type accents.

While not knowing that, I went ahead,  opened a command window, and listed
the us keyboards and found one that looks useful: us-intl.

I then navigated to the keymaps directory ( /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/xkb),
searched for us-intl, and found it. It is a compressed file. When I
double-click it, Fedora wants to know where to put the files. I stopped at
this point because I have no idea what I'm doing.

Questions:

1. Do I want to extract the file?
2. If I do, once I extract it, what do I do with it?
3. Am I unzipping the actual keyboard layout, or some kind of explanatory
document, and the keyboard layout itself is somewhere else?

Thanks.

--Nancy

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 8:33 PM Jerry Feldman  wrote:

> localectl shows the current locale
>
>
> You can list the keymaps:
> sudo localectl list-keymaps
> You can see the different groupings:
> sudo localectl list-keymaps | grep us
> sudo localectl list-keymaps | grep fr
> I have not changed the layout for several years,
> The actual keymap files are in /usr/lib/kbd/keymaps/xkb
> sudo localectl set-keymap 
>
>
>
> On 9/8/18 11:18 AM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > I am accustomed to using the US-international keyboard on my Windows
> > systems. I'd like to use it in Fedora 28, too, so I don't have to learn
> > alternate keyboard layouts.
> >
> > It is not listed, at least not by the name I'm used to, in the
> > Settings/Region & Language list of keyboard layouts. There are about 35
> > French keyboard layouts to choose from and I don't know how to figure out
> > which one is closest to the US International keyboard. Does anyone know?
> >
> > (The French keyboard from France lays out the keys differently and I'm
> all
> > for an easy life and don't want to have to remember to switch the
> locations
> > of A and Q every time I type something, so I don't want to use it.)
> >
> > Has anyone else dealt with this question? What did you decide on? All
> > suggestions welcome.
> >
> > --Nancy
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[Nancy Allison]

Hello, all.

I am accustomed to using the US-international keyboard on my Windows
systems. I'd like to use it in Fedora 28, too, so I don't have to learn
alternate keyboard layouts.

It is not listed, at least not by the name I'm used to, in the
Settings/Region & Language list of keyboard layouts. There are about 35
French keyboard layouts to choose from and I don't know how to figure out
which one is closest to the US International keyboard. Does anyone know?

(The French keyboard from France lays out the keys differently and I'm all
for an easy life and don't want to have to remember to switch the locations
of A and Q every time I type something, so I don't want to use it.)

Has anyone else dealt with this question? What did you decide on? All
suggestions welcome.

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Re: [Discuss] Boston Linux and Unix Annual Summer BBQ XXIV reminder Saturday, August 25, 2018 2:00 PM

[Nancy Allison]

Hear, hear! Thank you for your hospitality!

--Nancy

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:38 PM Bill Ricker  wrote:

> I would like to thank  John and Shelley Chambers for their gracious
> hosting.
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Re: [Discuss] Installing a Font in Fedora 28

[Nancy Allison]

Thanks, Mike!

I added a .ttf file that is what I need.  Success!

Nancy

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:10 PM, Mike Lalumiere  wrote:

> Hi Nancy,
>
> It looks like there are several packages that include Greek fonts
> available to install via dnf.
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/s/greek%2520font
>
> Perhaps in a terminal run this to install some of those packages?
> sudo dnf install gdouros-aegean-fonts gfs-solomos-fonts gfs-jackson-fonts
>
> You can also use dnf to search the available packages:
> dnf search greek font
>
> -Mike
>
> On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 08:27:23PM -0400, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > I am new to Fedora (v. 28) and need to install a font. (I actually never
> > tried to add a font in Ubuntu, either, in the past.)
> >
> > I've looked at the Fedora Fonts directory, but I see a listing of icons
> > instead of font filenames. I don't know what kind of fonts Fedora uses.
> >
> > Once I know, would it be as simple as copying a new font into that
> > directory, in order to have the use of it? I need to use a Koine Greek
> > font. I searched for "Greek" and "Koine" in that font directory and found
> > nothing.
> >
> > Thanks for all suggestions.
> >
> > --Nancy
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Hello, all.

I am new to Fedora (v. 28) and need to install a font. (I actually never
tried to add a font in Ubuntu, either, in the past.)

I've looked at the Fedora Fonts directory, but I see a listing of icons
instead of font filenames. I don't know what kind of fonts Fedora uses.

Once I know, would it be as simple as copying a new font into that
directory, in order to have the use of it? I need to use a Koine Greek
font. I searched for "Greek" and "Koine" in that font directory and found
nothing.

Thanks for all suggestions.

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Re: [Discuss] Can't play Facebook videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

Chuck, this worked! Thank you very much!

--Nancy

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 9:25 AM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:

> They are enabled when you install them (except the -testing versions,
> but you shouldn't need those unless you want to become a tester for
> newly released updates).
>
> After you install the repos, you have to insatll packages FROM those
> repos.  Did you try this command which I posted before?
>
> sudo dnf --exclude='*debug* --exclude='*devel* install gstreamer1*
> audacious-plugin* mpg123\* xmp-plugin*
>
> You probably don't need all those packages, but it is a good start to see
> if it fixes your problem.
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 06:20:17PM -0400, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > I did install both free and unfree, I distinctly recall doing this. Is
> > there a separate step to enable them? I've rebooted several times but the
> > videos still do not play.
> >
> > I checked this Youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/html5), and H.264
> and
> > MSE and H.264 are not checked.
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > --Nancy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:
> >
> > > Youtube video works fine with Fedora 28 Firefox on my system.  I do
> > > have rpmfusion-free and rpmfusion-nonfree repos enabled, along with a
> > > bunch of packages--not sure which ones you need exactly.  After
> > > enabling the rpmfusion repos, I usually do this:
> > >
> > > >sudo dnf --exclude='*debug* --exclude='*devel* install gstreamer1*
> > > audacious-plugin* mpg123\* xmp-plugin*
> > >
> > > This is what I have:
> > >
> > > >rpm -qa gstreamer\* audacious-plugin\* mpg123\* xmp-plugin\* | sort
> > > audacious-plugin-fc-0.8.3.6-0.10.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-amidi-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-exotic-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-freeworld-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> > > audacious-plugins-jack-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-1.14.1-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-libav-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-extras-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-fluidsynth-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-wildmidi-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-bad-nonfree-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-base-tools-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-entrans-1.2.1-3.fc27.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-entrans-docs-1.2.1-3.fc27.noarch
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-fc-0.2-16.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-good-extras-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-good-gtk-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.14.1-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-rtsp-server-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> > > gstreamer1-vaapi-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> > > mpg123-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > mpg123-libs-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > mpg123-plugins-jack-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > mpg123-plugins-portaudio-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > mpg123-plugins-pulseaudio-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> > > xmp-plugin-audacious-4.0.0-0.19.20160922git637d1e0.fc28.x86_64
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 02:17:35PM -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> > > > You want both RPM fusion free and nonfree.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Nancy Allison <
> > > nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, Jerry.
> > > > >
> > > > > I did install it last night. I'll check into it again this evening.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Jerry Feldman <
> gaf.li...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You need to install RPM Fusion. The easiest way is:
> > > > >> https://rpmfusion.org/
> > > > >> This has a lot of good things that you need. Note in the li

Re: [Discuss] Can't play Facebook videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

I did install both free and unfree, I distinctly recall doing this. Is
there a separate step to enable them? I've rebooted several times but the
videos still do not play.

I checked this Youtube page (https://www.youtube.com/html5), and H.264 and
MSE and H.264 are not checked.


Thanks.

--Nancy


On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:04 PM, Chuck Anderson  wrote:

> Youtube video works fine with Fedora 28 Firefox on my system.  I do
> have rpmfusion-free and rpmfusion-nonfree repos enabled, along with a
> bunch of packages--not sure which ones you need exactly.  After
> enabling the rpmfusion repos, I usually do this:
>
> >sudo dnf --exclude='*debug* --exclude='*devel* install gstreamer1*
> audacious-plugin* mpg123\* xmp-plugin*
>
> This is what I have:
>
> >rpm -qa gstreamer\* audacious-plugin\* mpg123\* xmp-plugin\* | sort
> audacious-plugin-fc-0.8.3.6-0.10.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-amidi-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-exotic-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-freeworld-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-freeworld-aac-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-freeworld-ffaudio-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-freeworld-mms-3.9-5.fc28.x86_64
> audacious-plugins-jack-3.9-6.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-1.14.1-2.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-libav-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-extras-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-fluidsynth-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-free-wildmidi-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-freeworld-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-bad-nonfree-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-base-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-base-tools-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-entrans-1.2.1-3.fc27.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-entrans-docs-1.2.1-3.fc27.noarch
> gstreamer1-plugins-fc-0.2-16.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-good-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-good-extras-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-good-gtk-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-1.14.1-2.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-plugins-ugly-free-1.14.1-3.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-rtsp-server-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> gstreamer1-vaapi-1.14.1-1.fc28.x86_64
> mpg123-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> mpg123-libs-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> mpg123-plugins-jack-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> mpg123-plugins-portaudio-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> mpg123-plugins-pulseaudio-1.25.6-2.fc28.x86_64
> xmp-plugin-audacious-4.0.0-0.19.20160922git637d1e0.fc28.x86_64
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 02:17:35PM -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:
> > You want both RPM fusion free and nonfree.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Nancy Allison <
> nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi, Jerry.
> > >
> > > I did install it last night. I'll check into it again this evening.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Jerry Feldman 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> You need to install RPM Fusion. The easiest way is:
> > >> https://rpmfusion.org/
> > >> This has a lot of good things that you need. Note in the list belog,
> the
> > >> @ sign denotes what is installed.
> > >> [gaf@gaf ~]$ sudo dnf list | grep ffmpeg
> > >> compat-ffmpeg28.x86_642.8.15-1.fc28
> > >>  @rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg.x86_64 4.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> @rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg-libs.x86_644.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> @rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> compat-ffmpeg28.i686  2.8.15-1.fc28
> > >>  rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> compat-ffmpeg28-devel.i6862.8.15-1.fc28
> > >>  rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> compat-ffmpeg28-devel.x86_64  2.8.15-1.fc28
> > >>  rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg.i686   4.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg-devel.i686 4.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg-devel.x86_64   4.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpeg-libs.i686  4.0.2-1.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free-updates
> > >> ffmpegthumbnailer.i6862.2.0-5.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free
> > >> ffmpegthumbnailer.x86_64  2.2.0-5.fc28
> > >> rpmfusion-free
> > >> ffmpegthumbnailer-devel.i686  2.2.0-5.fc28

Re: [Discuss] Can't play videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, John and all.

Thanks for these suggestions. My goodness, what a messy situation. I'm
copying Jerry Feldman directly, because I know he uses Fedora and knows it
well. Jerry, is there any better way that John and I can both benefit from?

Thanks.

--Nancy

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:02 AM, John Abreau  wrote:

> I've had the same problem for several years. My workaround is to use a
> command-line tool to download the videos, then play them with mplayer.
>
> The command-line tool is called "youtube-dl". You can install it with
> dnf, but the version in dnf doesn't get updated very often, so I
> prefer to install it manually so I can easily fetch the latest update
> as needed.
>
> youtube-dl can dowload videos from a large number of sites, including
> youtube, facebook, and vimeo. I just tried it on a washington post
> page, and while it didn't work on the page directly, it worked when I
> viewed the page source and then used youtube-dl on the embedded video
> url, which was from abc.com.
>
> https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 9:23 PM, Nancy Allison
>  wrote:
> > Follow-up: I've followed steps 1 and 1 (that's how they're numbered) on
> > this page and installed RPM Fusion for Fedora 28. Then I rebooted. Still
> no
> > luckc playing videos in Facebook, Washington Post, or Vimeo (so far).
> > Suggestions gratefully received.
> >
> > https://rpmfusion.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Allison <
> nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> For what it's worth, I also can't play videos from the Washington Post
> >> site, so it's not just Facebook.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Nancy Allison <
> nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi, all.
> >>>
> >>> I have just switched to Fedora 28 from Ubuntu, and now Facebook videos
> do
> >>> not run in Firefox.
> >>>
> >>> I googled this issue and found a topic about it:
> >>>
> >>> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/120605/video-probl
> >>> ems-on-firefox-on-fedora-28/
> >>>
> >>> I entered the command suggested and got this result:
> >>>
> >>> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf groupupdate multimedia
> >>> [sudo] password for theauthor:
> >>> Last metadata expiration check: 2:28:43 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22
> >>> PM EDT.
> >>> 13Group 'Multimedia' is already installed.
> >>> No match for group package "gstreamer1-plugin-mpg123"
> >>> Dependencies resolved.
> >>> Nothing to do.
> >>> Complete!
> >>>
> >>> I then entered the second command as suggested:
> >>>
> >>> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf install compat-ffmpeg28
> >>> Last metadata expiration check: 2:30:13 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22
> >>> PM EDT.
> >>> No match for argument: compat-ffmpeg28
> >>> Error: Unable to find a match
> >>>
> >>> I don't know what to do next to fix this problem. All suggestions
> >>> gratefully received.
> >>>
> >>
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Re: [Discuss] Can't play videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

Follow-up: I've followed steps 1 and 1 (that's how they're numbered) on
this page and installed RPM Fusion for Fedora 28. Then I rebooted. Still no
luckc playing videos in Facebook, Washington Post, or Vimeo (so far).
Suggestions gratefully received.

https://rpmfusion.org/



On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 6:02 PM, Nancy Allison 
wrote:

> For what it's worth, I also can't play videos from the Washington Post
> site, so it's not just Facebook.
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Nancy Allison 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I have just switched to Fedora 28 from Ubuntu, and now Facebook videos do
>> not run in Firefox.
>>
>> I googled this issue and found a topic about it:
>>
>> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/120605/video-probl
>> ems-on-firefox-on-fedora-28/
>>
>> I entered the command suggested and got this result:
>>
>> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf groupupdate multimedia
>> [sudo] password for theauthor:
>> Last metadata expiration check: 2:28:43 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22
>> PM EDT.
>> 13Group 'Multimedia' is already installed.
>> No match for group package "gstreamer1-plugin-mpg123"
>> Dependencies resolved.
>> Nothing to do.
>> Complete!
>>
>> I then entered the second command as suggested:
>>
>> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf install compat-ffmpeg28
>> Last metadata expiration check: 2:30:13 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22
>> PM EDT.
>> No match for argument: compat-ffmpeg28
>> Error: Unable to find a match
>>
>> I don't know what to do next to fix this problem. All suggestions
>> gratefully received.
>>
>
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Re: [Discuss] Can't play Facebook videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

For what it's worth, I also can't play videos from the Washington Post
site, so it's not just Facebook.

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:48 PM, Nancy Allison 
wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> I have just switched to Fedora 28 from Ubuntu, and now Facebook videos do
> not run in Firefox.
>
> I googled this issue and found a topic about it:
>
> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/120605/video-
> problems-on-firefox-on-fedora-28/
>
> I entered the command suggested and got this result:
>
> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf groupupdate multimedia
> [sudo] password for theauthor:
> Last metadata expiration check: 2:28:43 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22 PM
> EDT.
> 13Group 'Multimedia' is already installed.
> No match for group package "gstreamer1-plugin-mpg123"
> Dependencies resolved.
> Nothing to do.
> Complete!
>
> I then entered the second command as suggested:
>
> [theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf install compat-ffmpeg28
> Last metadata expiration check: 2:30:13 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22 PM
> EDT.
> No match for argument: compat-ffmpeg28
> Error: Unable to find a match
>
> I don't know what to do next to fix this problem. All suggestions
> gratefully received.
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[Discuss] Can't play Facebook videos in Firefox

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I have just switched to Fedora 28 from Ubuntu, and now Facebook videos do
not run in Firefox.

I googled this issue and found a topic about it:

https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/120605/video-problems-on-firefox-on-fedora-28/

I entered the command suggested and got this result:

[theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf groupupdate multimedia
[sudo] password for theauthor:
Last metadata expiration check: 2:28:43 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22 PM
EDT.
13Group 'Multimedia' is already installed.
No match for group package "gstreamer1-plugin-mpg123"
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

I then entered the second command as suggested:

[theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo dnf install compat-ffmpeg28
Last metadata expiration check: 2:30:13 ago on Sun 22 Jul 2018 02:16:22 PM
EDT.
No match for argument: compat-ffmpeg28
Error: Unable to find a match

I don't know what to do next to fix this problem. All suggestions
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Re: [Discuss] Fedora and Recoll

[Nancy Allison]

Yay, it worked! Thank you, Jim! On to my next question, in a new thread.

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:30 PM, jbk  wrote:

> On 07/22/2018 04:08 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:
>
>> I'm continuing my question about installing (or finding) Recoll on my
>> Fedora installation. I mistakenly responded individually to Jim. He asked
>> me what version of Fedora I'm using. Does this indicate that I am using
>> version 28:
>>
>> uname -or
>>
>> 4.16.6-200.fc28.x86 64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Then, Jim suggested that I could use sudo with the line that he suggested:
>>
>> sudo #dnf install recoll-1.23.7
>>
>> Yes, you are using version 28.
>
> Try sudo dnf install recall-1.23.7
>
> The # symbol is symbolic for being the root user. It is not part of the
> command. My mistake.
>
> --
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Re: [Discuss] Fedora and Recoll

[Nancy Allison]

I'm continuing my question about installing (or finding) Recoll on my
Fedora installation. I mistakenly responded individually to Jim. He asked
me what version of Fedora I'm using. Does this indicate that I am using
version 28:

uname -or

4.16.6-200.fc28.x86 64 GNU/Linux

Then, Jim suggested that I could use sudo with the line that he suggested:

sudo #dnf install recoll-1.23.7

I entered that and got this:

[theauthor@new-host ~]$ sudo #dnf install recoll-1.23.7
usage: sudo -h | -K | -k | -V
usage: sudo -v [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-u user]
usage: sudo -l [-AknS] [-g group] [-h host] [-p prompt] [-U user] [-u user]
[command]
usage: sudo [-AbEHknPS] [-r role] [-t type] [-C num] [-g group] [-h host]
[-p
prompt] [-T timeout] [-u user] [VAR=value] [-i|-s] []
usage: sudo -e [-AknS] [-r role] [-t type] [-C num] [-g group] [-h host] [-p
prompt] [-T timeout] [-u user] file ...
[theauthor@new-host ~]$


When I then searched for Recoll, nothing showed up.

All suggestions gratefully received.


On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Nancy Allison 
wrote:

> Thanks, Jim.
>
> I'm a pretty basic user, so I took your statement to mean that I should
> open the command window and type in that line. I did that, and nothing
> seemed to happen. Is that what I should have done? Did I miss anything?
>
> --Nancy
>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 9:43 PM, jbk  wrote:
>
>> On 07/21/2018 09:20 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> I have just switched from Ubuntu to Fedora. In Ubuntu, I used Recoll. The
>>> Recoll web page says it is standard in Fedora, but when I search for it I
>>> can't find it. Is the Recoll page incorrect? Or is some other tool
>>> bundled
>>> with Fedora and I just need to learn what it is?
>>>
>>> I don't care if I use Recoll or something else, I just need a way to
>>> search
>>> my files.
>>>
>>> Suggestions gratefully received.
>>>
>>> --Nancy
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>>>
>>> I'm using Fedora 28.
>>
>> As root if I type: # dnf install recoll-1.23.7
>>
>> it comes up with this version of recoll and it's dependencies.
>>
>> Typing recoll by itself gets program not found.
>>
>> Jim
>>
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[Discuss] Fedora and Recoll

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I have just switched from Ubuntu to Fedora. In Ubuntu, I used Recoll. The
Recoll web page says it is standard in Fedora, but when I search for it I
can't find it. Is the Recoll page incorrect? Or is some other tool bundled
with Fedora and I just need to learn what it is?

I don't care if I use Recoll or something else, I just need a way to search
my files.

Suggestions gratefully received.

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Re: [Discuss] Jekyll users, experts, developers anywhere?

[Nancy Allison]

Thank you, Dan. This is really helpful. I didn't realize the level of
sophistication I would need; sounds like a hosting service may be the way
to go.

On Sat, Jun 2, 2018 at 7:47 AM, Dan Ritter  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:24:24PM -0400, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > I am investigating software for a new blog. I've used Wordpress before
> and
> > don't want to get bogged down in it again. I did some searches for open
> > source blogging software, and it looks as if Jekyll might be a clean,
> > simple alternative that meets my requirements. (However, I'm willing to
> > believe that another blogging tool might be better.)
> >
> > I am not the world's most technical person, so I'm looking for help. The
> > Jekyll Quick Start Guide begins with this sentence:
> >
> > "If you already have a full Ruby <https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/
> downloads/>
> > development environment with all headers and RubyGems
> > <https://rubygems.org/pages/download> installed (see Jekyll’s
> requirements
> > <https://jekyllrb.com/docs/installation/#requirements>), you can create
> a
> > new Jekyll site by doing the following:"
> >
> > This is Greek to me. No, I don't have a Ruby development environment and
> > have no idea how I'd get one.
> >
> > I'm looking for suggestions for user groups, forums, consultants, etc.,
> > etc. All suggestions gratefully received.
>
> You probably already know that Jekyll is one of a class of
> static website generators: it takes content written in Markdown,
> combines it with templates that show how each page is
> structured, and finally adds in CSS to control colors and
> margins and fonts and so forth.
>
> These have excellent performance and security characteristics,
> but require a fair investment in learning how to run and use
> them. In particular, Jekyll assumes that you are at least a
> beginner Ruby programmer.
>
> You'll need a server to run the software on. If you don't have
> one set up, you're going to need to learn how. The cheapest
> method is to rent a virtual machine from Linode or Digital Ocean
> or similar; the cheapest VM at $5/month will do just fine.
>
> Once you do that, you'll have a choice of operating system. For
> example, if you choose Debian, installing jekyll and all the
> dependencies is as simple as saying:
>
> sudo apt install jekyll
>
> and all the ruby bits that are necessary will be installed for
> you, and then jekyll will be installed as well. You'll be able
> to proceed from instructions on the Jekyll site.
>
> If this sounds too daunting, you might want to pay a company to
> run the software on your behalf. I don't know of anyone doing
> Jekyll hosting in specific, but you might want to look into
> Ghost, www.ghost.org, which supports its open-source development
> by selling hosting services. I think it's kind of expensive at
> $20 per month, but they really do everything for you except pick
> out images and write the blog.
>
> -dsr-
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[Nancy Allison]

Hello, all.

I am investigating software for a new blog. I've used Wordpress before and
don't want to get bogged down in it again. I did some searches for open
source blogging software, and it looks as if Jekyll might be a clean,
simple alternative that meets my requirements. (However, I'm willing to
believe that another blogging tool might be better.)

I am not the world's most technical person, so I'm looking for help. The
Jekyll Quick Start Guide begins with this sentence:

"If you already have a full Ruby 
development environment with all headers and RubyGems
 installed (see Jekyll’s requirements
), you can create a
new Jekyll site by doing the following:"

This is Greek to me. No, I don't have a Ruby development environment and
have no idea how I'd get one.

I'm looking for suggestions for user groups, forums, consultants, etc.,
etc. All suggestions gratefully received.

--Nancy
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Re: [Discuss] Tolerable plain text editor for iPad?

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, Eric.

Just for my edification, what does dark themed mean? Is it an aesthetic
thing or a technical one? Does it confer a particular advantage?

Thanks!

--Nancy

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Eric Chadbourne <
sillystr...@protonmail.com> wrote:

> Just stumbled across two vim clones.   Might work.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric Chadbourne
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 10:53 AM, Eric Chadbourne <
> sillystr...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Does one exist?
> >
> > The more minimalist the better.  Read, write, and save to local + common
> cloud provider.  Bonus points if dark themed.
> >
> > I’m trying different apps now.  Discovery is surprisingly difficult in
> the iTunes Store or what I desire doesn’t exist.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
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Re: [Discuss] LibreOffice and .docx files

[Nancy Allison]

Hello, all.

I painfully conclude that I must install Word on my Ubuntu 16.04 machine. I
need to be able to handle Word files consistently.

So I opened Synaptic Package Manager and searched for Microsoft Word. No
luck.

What do I do? How do I get it installed?

I know, it pains me! But I don't see a way around it. All suggestions
gratefully received!

--Nancy

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Bill Bogstad <bogs...@pobox.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Nancy Allison <nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, all.
> >
> > I appreciate the background information on why compatibility is not
> assured
> > or easy. I will upgrade to 5.4x when the time is right (when I have at
> > least one grizzled Linux veteran nearby to help out if the unexpected
> > occurs) ...
>
> Upgrading Libreoffice is very easy once you know the process.  Her e is a
> link
> which appears to have correct info:
>
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/how-to-install-
> libreoffice-5-4-on-ubuntu
>
> Reverting back is harder, but it certainly doable.  Just having a
> Linux person available
> by phone is probably all you would need.
>
> Bill Bogstad
>
> >
> > --Nancy
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Derek Martin <inva...@pizzashack.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 08:25:45PM -0500, Nancy Allison wrote:
> >> > Is there a Word-compatible open source program that truly does not
> trash
> >> > the formatting? Or is it simply not possible to pass documents back
> and
> >> > forth between Word and an open source program like LibreOffice or
> >> > OpenOffice? I used Open Office years ago, haven't used it recently, it
> >> used
> >> > to trash the files, too.
> >>
> >> The Open Office project still exists with different leadership (it's
> >> now an Apache project), and while my understanding is on the whole
> >> Libre Office's Word compaitibility is better, it may be possible that
> >> a recent version of Open Office handles your particular document
> >> better, depending on exactly what features it is using.  Could be
> >> worth a try.  As others said, also try upgrading your Libre Office
> >> version...
> >>
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Re: [Discuss] LibreOffice and .docx files

[Nancy Allison]

Thanks, all.

I appreciate the background information on why compatibility is not assured
or easy. I will upgrade to 5.4x when the time is right (when I have at
least one grizzled Linux veteran nearby to help out if the unexpected
occurs) ...

--Nancy

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Derek Martin <inva...@pizzashack.org>
wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 08:25:45PM -0500, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Is there a Word-compatible open source program that truly does not trash
> > the formatting? Or is it simply not possible to pass documents back and
> > forth between Word and an open source program like LibreOffice or
> > OpenOffice? I used Open Office years ago, haven't used it recently, it
> used
> > to trash the files, too.
>
> The Open Office project still exists with different leadership (it's
> now an Apache project), and while my understanding is on the whole
> Libre Office's Word compaitibility is better, it may be possible that
> a recent version of Open Office handles your particular document
> better, depending on exactly what features it is using.  Could be
> worth a try.  As others said, also try upgrading your Libre Office
> version...
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Re: [Discuss] LibreOffice and .docx files

[Nancy Allison]

Darn, I was afraid of that. Thanks.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 08:25:45PM -0500, Nancy Allison wrote:
> > Hello, all.
> >
> > I am using Ubuntu 16.04 and LibreOffice 5.1.6.2.
> >
> > I've been sent a .docx file with a fairly complex layout, and the layout
> is
> > trashed immediately upon opening in LibreOffice. I know from past
> > experience that docx files that I've modified in LibreOffice are, if
> > possible, even nastier when reopened in Word.
> >
> > Is there a Word-compatible open source program that truly does not trash
> > the formatting? Or is it simply not possible to pass documents back and
> > forth between Word and an open source program like LibreOffice or
> > OpenOffice? I used Open Office years ago, haven't used it recently, it
> used
> > to trash the files, too.
> >
> > All suggestions gratefully received.
>
> It's an arms race in which Microsoft gets to set the default, and not tell
> anyone what they're doing. Then they get to change it every so often -
> with the advent of Office 360, all the time.
>
> You would think that this poses problems of backwards compatibility with
> older copies of Word, and you would be correct. Sometimes Word can't
> open Word-generated files. There have been significant problems
> with Word for Windows vs Word for MacOS.
>
> Some years its better than others. But no, there's nothing better than
> LibreOffice at handling complex layouts that Word generated,
> except exactly the version of Word that produced it.
>
>
> -dsr-
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[Discuss] LibreOffice and .docx files

[Nancy Allison]

Hello, all.

I am using Ubuntu 16.04 and LibreOffice 5.1.6.2.

I've been sent a .docx file with a fairly complex layout, and the layout is
trashed immediately upon opening in LibreOffice. I know from past
experience that docx files that I've modified in LibreOffice are, if
possible, even nastier when reopened in Word.

Is there a Word-compatible open source program that truly does not trash
the formatting? Or is it simply not possible to pass documents back and
forth between Word and an open source program like LibreOffice or
OpenOffice? I used Open Office years ago, haven't used it recently, it used
to trash the files, too.

All suggestions gratefully received.

--Nancy
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Re: [Discuss] Recommended Calendar with Popup Reminders

[Nancy Allison]

Thanks, all. I will be checking these out.

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:04 AM, David Rosenstrauch <dar...@darose.net>
wrote:

> On 06/13/2017 09:51 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:
>
>> Hi, all.
>>
>> I have Ubuntu 16.04. I would like to maintain a calendar that produces
>> popup reminders the way Outlook does.
>>
>> I don't love the cloud and would rather have something that lives on my
>> laptop.
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> --Nancy
>>
>
> I've been using Kalarm for a few years (screenshot at
> http://darose.net/KalarmAlert.png).  Though that's probably more of an
> alarm system than a calendar.
>
> I think Mozilla Lightning might be able to do calendaring with alerts btw.
>
> HTH,
>
> DR
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[Nancy Allison]

Hi, all.

I have Ubuntu 16.04. I would like to maintain a calendar that produces
popup reminders the way Outlook does.

I don't love the cloud and would rather have something that lives on my
laptop.

Does anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Discuss] Ubuntu 16.04 Wifi Connection Disappeared

[Nancy Allison]

Tried it. Error message flashed : Disconnected -- you are now offline.

Clicked the windshield wiper triangle icon. Enable Networking is selected.
There is no option to enable wifi.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:23 PM, Joel A Savage <jlsav...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you stumbled across this yet?  I guess this behavior is well known.
> Try the nmtui command and variants see if that gets you any traction.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxActionShow/comments/4jqv67/ubuntu_1604_
> networkmanager_fixed/
>
> On Jan 3, 2017 9:04 PM, "Nancy Allison" <nancythewrit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at this webpage, which looked promising. Why does it want me
>> to
>> download a driver?
>>
>> http://smallbusiness.chron.com/disable-wireless-toshiba-sate
>> llite-52666.html
>>
>> The Fn-F8 key combo is not doing anything, unfortunately. Fn-F12 (which
>> looks like an oldfashioned glass thermometer with the bulb on top) turns
>> on
>> and off the Bluetooth icon.
>>
>> Dang.
>>
>> I wonder if I will have to wait until the next BLU installfest to get it
>> working. Computers are great when they work.
>>
>> What did I doo!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Gregory Boyce <gbo...@badbelly.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > A lot of laptops include a shut off for the wireless in the form of a
>> > function key or a physical switch.  It may be worth checking for that.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 8:35 PM Nancy Allison <nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, everyone. Thank you for your great replies! I hope this additional
>> >> detail is useful. (Yep, means problem not solved yet.)
>> >>
>> >> Greg:
>> >>
>> >> I followed your numbered steps, which were great, through #3. At #4, I
>> see
>> >> your screenshot. However, the list on the left contains only two items:
>> >>
>> >> Wired
>> >> Network proxy
>> >>
>> >> Airplane Mode is off, but there is no Wireless item on the right, and
>> no
>> >> wireless networks are listed.
>> >>
>> >> Greg and Mike: I opened the terminal window and entered this command:
>> >>
>> >> sudo service network-manager restart
>> >>
>> >> I put in my password.
>> >>
>> >> For a while, a handy Enable Wi-Fi option appeared in a menu at the top
>> of
>> >> the window. I clicked it! But still, it didn't discover my local wi-fi
>> >> network, so I thought, "I'll reboot, and when it loads up, it will
>> find my
>> >> Wi-Fi network, and all will be well."
>> >>
>> >> Alas, it was not to be. Instead, the Enable Wi-Fi option disappeared
>> once
>> >> again from the list, and of course my local network was not listed
>> among
>> >> the wi-fi networks.
>> >>
>> >> So, I was back to square one.
>> >>
>> >> Mike, I have a Toshiba Satellite. After a little googling about
>> >> identifying
>> >> my wireless card, I ran lspci in the terminal window, and I'm seeing:
>> >>
>> >> network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev cb)
>> >> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
>> RTL8111/8168/8411PCI
>> >> Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)
>> >>
>> >> Is this the information you were looking for? Ubuntu 14.nn on this
>> laptop
>> >> linked successfully to the Internet for quite a while. But maybe Ubuntu
>> >> 16.04 could have problems with the same networking card?
>> >>
>> >> As a last thought, I've rebooted numerous times, so even if I messed
>> up my
>> >> password a time or two, I don't think I could have messed it up every
>> >> time.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you all so much. If there's more information that would help, ask
>> >> away. If you can think of any next steps I should try, I'm all ears!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I have had problems with WIFI waking from SUSPEND with 16.04 with one
>> >> > laptop.
>> >> > (and with a prior version with another laptop! Both Lenovo T61's.)
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't know if that's your issue but mentioning it just in case.
>> >> >  (And i may try the suggested sudo restart on that one, thanks )
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Bill Ricker
>> >> > bill.n1...@gmail.com
>> >> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux
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Re: [Discuss] Ubuntu 16.04 Wifi Connection Disappeared

[Nancy Allison]

I'm looking at this webpage, which looked promising. Why does it want me to
download a driver?

http://smallbusiness.chron.com/disable-wireless-toshiba-satellite-52666.html

The Fn-F8 key combo is not doing anything, unfortunately. Fn-F12 (which
looks like an oldfashioned glass thermometer with the bulb on top) turns on
and off the Bluetooth icon.

Dang.

I wonder if I will have to wait until the next BLU installfest to get it
working. Computers are great when they work.

What did I doo!

On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 8:49 PM, Gregory Boyce <gbo...@badbelly.com> wrote:

> A lot of laptops include a shut off for the wireless in the form of a
> function key or a physical switch.  It may be worth checking for that.
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017, 8:35 PM Nancy Allison <nancythewrit...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone. Thank you for your great replies! I hope this additional
>> detail is useful. (Yep, means problem not solved yet.)
>>
>> Greg:
>>
>> I followed your numbered steps, which were great, through #3. At #4, I see
>> your screenshot. However, the list on the left contains only two items:
>>
>> Wired
>> Network proxy
>>
>> Airplane Mode is off, but there is no Wireless item on the right, and no
>> wireless networks are listed.
>>
>> Greg and Mike: I opened the terminal window and entered this command:
>>
>> sudo service network-manager restart
>>
>> I put in my password.
>>
>> For a while, a handy Enable Wi-Fi option appeared in a menu at the top of
>> the window. I clicked it! But still, it didn't discover my local wi-fi
>> network, so I thought, "I'll reboot, and when it loads up, it will find my
>> Wi-Fi network, and all will be well."
>>
>> Alas, it was not to be. Instead, the Enable Wi-Fi option disappeared once
>> again from the list, and of course my local network was not listed among
>> the wi-fi networks.
>>
>> So, I was back to square one.
>>
>> Mike, I have a Toshiba Satellite. After a little googling about
>> identifying
>> my wireless card, I ran lspci in the terminal window, and I'm seeing:
>>
>> network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev cb)
>> Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411PCI
>> Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)
>>
>> Is this the information you were looking for? Ubuntu 14.nn on this laptop
>> linked successfully to the Internet for quite a while. But maybe Ubuntu
>> 16.04 could have problems with the same networking card?
>>
>> As a last thought, I've rebooted numerous times, so even if I messed up my
>> password a time or two, I don't think I could have messed it up every
>> time.
>>
>> Thank you all so much. If there's more information that would help, ask
>> away. If you can think of any next steps I should try, I'm all ears!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Bill Ricker <bill.n1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I have had problems with WIFI waking from SUSPEND with 16.04 with one
>> > laptop.
>> > (and with a prior version with another laptop! Both Lenovo T61's.)
>> >
>> > Don't know if that's your issue but mentioning it just in case.
>> >  (And i may try the suggested sudo restart on that one, thanks )
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Bill Ricker
>> > bill.n1...@gmail.com
>> > https://www.linkedin.com/in/n1vux
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Re: [Discuss] Ubuntu 16.04 Wifi Connection Disappeared

[Nancy Allison]

Hi, everyone. Thank you for your great replies! I hope this additional
detail is useful. (Yep, means problem not solved yet.)

Greg:

I followed your numbered steps, which were great, through #3. At #4, I see
your screenshot. However, the list on the left contains only two items:

Wired
Network proxy

Airplane Mode is off, but there is no Wireless item on the right, and no
wireless networks are listed.

Greg and Mike: I opened the terminal window and entered this command:

sudo service network-manager restart

I put in my password.

For a while, a handy Enable Wi-Fi option appeared in a menu at the top of
the window. I clicked it! But still, it didn't discover my local wi-fi
network, so I thought, "I'll reboot, and when it loads up, it will find my
Wi-Fi network, and all will be well."

Alas, it was not to be. Instead, the Enable Wi-Fi option disappeared once
again from the list, and of course my local network was not listed among
the wi-fi networks.

So, I was back to square one.

Mike, I have a Toshiba Satellite. After a little googling about identifying
my wireless card, I ran lspci in the terminal window, and I'm seeing:

network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 (rev cb)
Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411PCI
Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)

Is this the information you were looking for? Ubuntu 14.nn on this laptop
linked successfully to the Internet for quite a while. But maybe Ubuntu
16.04 could have problems with the same networking card?

As a last thought, I've rebooted numerous times, so even if I messed up my
password a time or two, I don't think I could have messed it up every time.

Thank you all so much. If there's more information that would help, ask
away. If you can think of any next steps I should try, I'm all ears!



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> I have had problems with WIFI waking from SUSPEND with 16.04 with one
> laptop.
> (and with a prior version with another laptop! Both Lenovo T61's.)
>
> Don't know if that's your issue but mentioning it just in case.
>  (And i may try the suggested sudo restart on that one, thanks )
>
>
>
> Bill Ricker
> bill.n1...@gmail.com
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[Discuss] Ubuntu 16.04 Wifi Connection Disappeared

[Nancy Allison]

Preface:  I decided to use Ubuntu on my laptop as a way of thumbing my nose
at Microsoft and Apple. Most Linux people are pretty technically savvy. Me,
not so much.

Suddenly, my 16.04 installation doesn't connect to wifi. I am writing to
you on my Windows 7 machine, which does successfully connect to the
self-same wifi network.

In the Ubuntu interface, I tried  disabling my home wifi network, foolishly
thinking that Ubuntu 16.04 would successfully find it when I rebooted. No
dice.

I found a website with a long discussion of this Ubuntu 16.04 problem. I
would type all that stuff beginning with "sudo" if I knew where to type it,
and if I weren't afraid that I might misunderstand something, type
something wrong, and make the situation worse.

http://askubuntu.com/questions/762198/16-04-lts-wifi-connection-issues

I would be very grateful for suggestions about how to fix the problem.

--Nancy
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