[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

2011-05-27 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

together with their Linux migration team (LiMux), we’re planning a 
LibreOffice Hackfest in the City of Munich, Germany. To determine the 
best date for it, let us know all your possible dates! Like last time, 
the Hackfest is open for newbies as well as for routined hackers. More 
details will follow soon, but first, we need the date. So, let’s vote!


The poll is at http://doodle.com/i7pw9wubvdhdyzm4

NOTE: The Hackfest will run from Friday evening to Sunday lunchtime. For 
the ease of voting, we have just mentioned the respective Saturday.


Let's hack!
Florian

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

2011-05-27 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi Marc,

Marc Paré wrote on 2011-05-27 15.31:

Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
there in person or can you participate remotely?


the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote connection 
involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place :)


Florian

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[tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-design] Templates, styles, outline and bullets/numbering

2011-05-27 Thread Octavio Alvarez

Hi, Steve!

On Sun, 22 May 2011 17:25:09 -0700, Steve Edmonds
steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:
The documentation at  
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/cgi_img_auth.php/6/6e/0103GS3-StylesAndTemplates.pdf  
doesn't explain how they work and possibly if I can gain a better  
understanding I can update the wiki with a view to distilling the  
information I garner into something simple for the bulk of average users.


Page 5 explains pretty much everything, I think.

Maybe it is clearer to say it this way: styles set defaults for a kind
of paragraph, so you can have all your titles look the same.

You apply the paragraph style Heading 1 to all your first-level
headings. You can redefine the Heading 1 with different attributes (like
bold and some top spacing) and you will see all of them being uniformly
updated. If you don't apply any kind of direct formatting, all will look
the same.

For paragraph attributes (indents, tabs, spacing...) the computed
attributes will be those applied by the paragraph style, overridden by
whatever direct paragraph formatting (indents, etc.) you apply.

For character attributes (bold, font size...) the computed attributes will
be those set by the paragraph style, overridden by those set by the
character style, and then overridden by whatever direct formatting.

Just consider the following: A style will inherit all undefined attributes
from its parent style (which, in turn, may inherit attributes from its own
parent style, up the way to Default).

These are the basics, but should get you started. If you know HTML/CSS,
styles are similar to classes.

As this ultimately may end up with design consequences, should the  
discussion be in one list or the other of both?


Design, I think. Other people have suggested some ideas. Some good, some
not so much.

To start with, what is the underlying construction of the document. It  
would seem that document features have styles associated. Do styles  
modify the document construction on application (or modification) of the  
style or do the styles work in layers like a filter.


No, it's not that complicated. Paragraph styles are just a collection of
formatting attributes (text flow attributes like keep with next are also
formatting attributes) that get defined with a name, and then, applied to
any paragraph.

Some functions may use styles, like, the Table of Contents field will use
Contents 1 to N, and hyperlinks will use the Hyperlink style.

I.e. a line of text entered initially in a default document has a  
certain indent.
If I adjust the slider on the ruler it changes the indent. If I apply a  
paragraph style it changes the indent. Does applying the style change  
the basic indent value or override the basic value. If the style is  
removed, does the indent revert to the basic value.


Two mistakes here.

First, there is no basic indent. If you do those steps in order, when
you change the paragraph style indent you will not see any different
because it is already overridden by whatever value you set by sliding the
ruler.

Second, styles don't get removed. You are ALWAYS using a style. People
who never apply styles will just be overriding the attributes from the
Default style all over the document.

If I apply a paragraph style and then a list style, do these  
subsequently override the indent. Are they hierarchical so no matter  
what later change I make to the paragraph style my override by the last  
applied list style maintains the indent.


I would say that those are not mixed, but I'm not sure about this. Try
it for yourself.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

2011-05-27 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Florian Effenberger wrote:
 Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
 there in person or can you participate remotely?
 
 the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote
 connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place
 :)
 
Quite - you can get hacking help on irc every day - but one key part
of a hackfest is the social component.

It would therefore be just cool to have those kind of events spread
across the globe. I believe we've hackers on every continent. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten

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[tdf-discuss] Question

2011-05-27 Thread Marius Popa
Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How can
I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages), and
when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks in
advance.

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: LibreOffice Hackfest in Munich

2011-05-27 Thread Robert Derman

Thorsten Behrens wrote:

Florian Effenberger wrote:
  

Thanks for announcing this. Maybe we should also know if you have to be
there in person or can you participate remotely?
  

the event is planned on-site. Maybe we can get some remote
connection involved, but primarily, it is for hacking at the place
:)



Quite - you can get hacking help on irc every day - but one key part
of a hackfest is the social component.

It would therefore be just cool to have those kind of events spread
across the globe. I believe we've hackers on every continent. :)

Cheers,

-- Thorsten
  
We certainly need something like this for North America, U.S.A. and 
Canada. 


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Re: [tdf-discuss] need new string in chart type dialog of line and XY chart for smoothing line with B-spline

2011-05-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 25/05/2011 Regina Henschel wrote:
 Steve Edmonds schrieb:
 Currently it is in English Data points order, that are 17 characters, 
 in German we have Ordnung für Stützpunkte, that are 23 characters, 
 Spanish has 28 characters and fills the dialog area completely.
 
  Interpolation Polynomial Degree
  Degree of Spline Polynomial
  Degree of Polynomial
 
 Degree of Polynomial
 Is that clear in content? Then it would be good. I have tried other 
 languages with Google. They have similar length.

In Italian, where we traditionally have very long strings as in French,
Degree of Polynomial would be Grado del polinomio (19); it would be
more informative to use Grado del polinomio interpolante (32) which
probably exceeds the maximum length; but I think Degree of
Polynomial (=Grado del polinomio) is clear enough in context.

Regards,
  Andrea.


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Question

2011-05-27 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 22:21 +0300, Marius Popa wrote:
 Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How can
 I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
 that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages), and
 when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
 mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks in
 advance.
 

You need to change the page size for each of the *page styles* used in
the document, and then recreate the PDF. Unfortunately, you cannot
change all the page styles at once; you have to change each page style
individually. 

--Jean


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[tdf-discuss] RC2 - no 3.4.0.x tag in help - about libreoffice

2011-05-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all,

installing LibO 3.4.0RC2 I noticed there is no tag describing the
release version.

So LibO 3.3.2 shows up:
LibreOffice 3.3.2 
OOO330m19 (Build:202)
tag libreoffice-3.3.2.2

LibO 3.4.0RC2 shows:
LibreOffice 3.4.0 
OOO340m1 (Build:12)

which makes it more hard for the support people to define the
environment while giving advice or hunting bugs.


deb packages on Kubuntu 7.10 32bit.


Gruß/regards
-- 
Friedrich
Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Question

2011-05-27 Thread Marius Popa
Probably, I should first convert the PDF to ODT and then remake the file and
convert it to PDF again. How to convert a PDF to an ODT file?

On 28 May 2011 00:12, Jean Hollis Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 22:21 +0300, Marius Popa wrote:
  Good evening! It is Marius Popa again, with a new question for you. How
 can
  I set a certain page size for a document that is already written? I mean
  that I wrote a long document (over 90 pages, but less than 100 pages),
 and
  when I completed it, I noticed that the pages had not the same size. I
  mention that I created the PDF/A from OpenOffice.org with NovaPDF. Thanks
 in
  advance.
 

 You need to change the page size for each of the *page styles* used in
 the document, and then recreate the PDF. Unfortunately, you cannot
 change all the page styles at once; you have to change each page style
 individually.

 --Jean


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