[tdf-discuss] IBM is alive ;)
Interesting news on this site http://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/ibm-docs-google-docs-like-office-suite-with-advance-share-options/ - add this to the 3.0.1 release of IBM Lotus Symphony (which in a 0.0.1 release manages to change it's spreadsheet from the traditional 65K lines to 1Million lines... Take that Mozilla! :) ) - add this to the current Google monopolistic attitude (they always behaved this way, to be honest): either you accept the whole package (Search, Docs, Google+) and we can search and have access to it all WITH your permission or you can go elsewhere. And we might see IBM getting some good reputation from the desktop users... Now for the elitist part typical of IBM: you can't subscribe to the service with a personal (gmail at least) account :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3715436.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 13:40, Pedro wrote: Interesting news on this site http://www.addictivetips.com/internet-tips/ibm-docs-google-docs-like-office-suite-with-advance-share-options/ IBM has never been involved in TDF, and has been openly bashing TDF and LibreOffice on personal blogs of IBM employees and AOOoI mailing lists. Sorry, but IBM is off topic here. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibOCon proposals
Hi Andreas, *, On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Andreas Mantke ma...@gmx.de wrote: Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2012, 14:08:58 schrieb Jesús Corrius: On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: (...) I am open for discussion, of course, but I wonder that you seem to have a different opinion now, since the BoD has voted on this during the last call. ;-) I am just open to discussions ;) But I was just talking to this particular case, we need to define this for the future. If this is talking about the future, I wonder, why you jump into this thread. Got out of the bed with the wrong foot first? We had a public discussion and decision of the BoD already. If there are no unknown facts or new arguments, we should not discuss and decide again (and again). I admit that I didn't follow the meeting, did not read the minutes, but what Jesús did propose would make a nice compromise, wouldn't it (not suggesting that it should be used for this year's voting, but to consider for the next round) (...) A possible solution would be: 1. Invite all the TDF members to vote by default. 2. If you are not a member of the TDF but you also want to vote, send a message to someone (Florian maybe? :P) and you will be invited. Point 2 would be a nice job ;-( Maybe we will also hear some complaints, if someone missed to send a mail in time. ?? I absolutely don't get your point. You are saying that writing a mail is too much work, and that not writing a mail to be invited is a problem? Those non-TDF-members are not allowed to vote now, so how is opening a door for them too much of a problem? But maybe I completely misunderstood and you're talking about the opposite side, the group of people that are needed to process those manual requests (i.e. create a voting token and send out the corresponding link) I think we should invite every contributor to apply for a membership status and then he / she could vote for the venue of the conferences 2013 and later. It would be good to increase our member base. But a rather bad reason. If you register just to be able to vote, then your commitment to the project is questionable, and thus the entire membership status is questioned. (remember that becoming a member requires past contributions (in whatever form) and the moral commitment to continue contributing in a similar fashion). I want to vote for the location of the next conference is not enough in my opinion. (But don't get me wrong, sending messages to known contributors who did not yet apply for membership is of course fine, but not if the reason behind is otherwise you won't be able to vote for the LO-conference) ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
italovignoli wrote IBM has never been involved in TDF, and has been openly bashing TDF and LibreOffice on personal blogs of IBM employees and AOOoI mailing lists. Sorry, but IBM is off topic here. I am well aware of all that (IMO some IBM employees bashing TDF on their blogs and on public mailing lists and forums, does not make it a corporate decision ;) ). Yet, this is also about a competitor product based on the same (original) source code. The migration to the Cloud seems quite interesting and fit for a general discussion list ;) Especially because a cloud version or cloud connected version of LibreOffice is in TDF's plans? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3715573.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 15:33, Pedro wrote: italovignoli wrote IBM has never been involved in TDF, and has been openly bashing TDF and LibreOffice on personal blogs of IBM employees and AOOoI mailing lists. Sorry, but IBM is off topic here. I am well aware of all that (IMO some IBM employees bashing TDF on their blogs and on public mailing lists and forums, does not make it a corporate decision ;) ). Yet, this is also about a competitor product based on the same (original) source code. The migration to the Cloud seems quite interesting and fit for a general discussion list ;) Its actually quite funny I was thinking of offering something in the cloud with a web based version of LO to my clients where they would rent a virtual private server for the office and login or use the web version to do their work respectivley. Especially because a cloud version or cloud connected version of LibreOffice is in TDF's plans? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3715573.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Question/Request for Zaragoza team: more travel details please (how to get to Zaragoza)
Hi *, I was approached with a plea to bring up the travel topic to the list, so straight to the point: * It would be nice if Zaragoza's team could elaborate more on how to get to Zaragoza (by plane) It should not be a huge problem, given that it already held some international conferences, but nevertheless there are a couple of pitfalls: the usual find me a cheap flight to XY portals and other travel-planning portals cannot be used, as ryanair is not included in those portals (probably because of their you have to pay a extra fee for stuff that is included with other airlines policy), and it doesn't use the main airports, but the lesser frequented ones, thus you always have to commute from $big_airport/$train_station to $ryanair_airport. That complicates things quite a bit. (and it doesn't help that you cannot see a schedule on ryanair's website, and it appears that all flights are not available - there are available seats in march, but when you go to the future, all you get is the not available icon. (Oct/Nov is out of the schedule already, so no hits at all, probably also making people believe there is no connection)... After being contacted, I also tried to find a way from Munich to Zaragoza, so let me describe the problems by example. Feel free to stop reading here, or jump to the next ## Tried the various portals as outlined above, for example swoodoo, expedia and a couple of others - none of them could find a connection from Munich to Zaragoza, and not even from Paris to Zaragoza (I knew from the proposal that ryanair serves this route (again not Paris CDG, but Beauvais, 80-90km outside Paris) Thus no direct way, and even if there was a route from MUC to Paris, I would have to commute between airports, so went to ryanair website and looked for flights - problem see above. No schedule (or I'm too dumb to find it), and the booking system to check for flights basically is useless, as unless you look in the next months, you won't get any results. (and it uses captcha, that you have to keep filling out after X requests). On the plus side, the flights really are quite cheap, even if you add the additional fees for your luggage and not paying with ryanair's own payment-card/system. (You can get it starting at about 60 € (with one piece of luggage with max. 15kg)). So next step - get to Paris - that's an easy one and surprisingly cheap as well - Deutsche Bahn has Europa Spezial tickets that cost 39€ from Munich to Paris (with TGV a little more than 6 hours) - but you can book that 92 days in advance only and availability is limited... On the plus side, that connection runs multiple times a day... So I need to connect the two - I know French English, so that was no real problem for me, but it took quite some time nevertheless, as the private shuttle services did a good job with google... Unless you're traveling in a large group, you pay more than 100€ one way. (if you start looking for info at the correct places, you'll have that info much quicker of course). Here only the short version: * Beauvais airport has a shuttle service to the city, but not to any of the other airports, and not to any of the main stations, but to a rather random metro station (at least to me it is random to me - Porte Maillot) it's 15€ per trip, about 90 minutes but depending on traffic conditions) * Porte Maillot and Gare de l'est requires changing trains once (at Palais Royal/Louvre) and metro is cheap (1,70€ per trip, around 30 minutes) So in theory I got a connection, but it took quite a while to figure it out... # so essence of the above: * you won't find ryanair flights in the common travel portals/meta search sites. * Ryanair doesn't serve the main airports, but uses smaller ones, so you almost certainly have to commute from airport to airport or from train station to airport. Example: Paris → Zaragoza: It is from Beauvais airport (BVA), 80/90km north of Paris There is a bus-shuttle between Porte Maillot (a Metro station) the airport, organized by the airport (15€ per trip, around 90 minutes) shuttle This info probably should be enough to get the idea, and probably is enough to help out the person who contacted me - but maybe you could line it out/point to the info from previous conferences. ciao Christian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
I do hope that LibreOffice On Line becomes a reality! It would be the only (to my knowledge) Free own-server based office suite! There is one of which I am aware, having used it at a previous employer: Zimbra Docs. It is not widely documented or discussed online, for reasons I don't know. Here's a brief review, though: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
Jonathan Aquilina wrote I am planning on offering something like that to my clients all they would be paying for is the virtual private server. Online is where everything is going. Pedro have you tried compiling LO from source Michael Meeks told me how to do it and its quite simple to get it compiling for the web at least from what i have been told, will soon find out if that is true. Compiling from source is beyond my skills :) But I'm available to do some testing of your virtual private server ;) However I hope that LO server based is a suite installed on a local server and running on the browser as Google docs does. This would allow to have a centrally updated stable office suite instead of having to install in each PC... If it is done in a similar manner to Google Docs and IBM Docs, the documents can be shared and even edited simultaneously by several users within an intranet. Am I daydreaming? :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3715880.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 18:37, Pedro wrote: Jonathan Aquilina wrote I am planning on offering something like that to my clients all they would be paying for is the virtual private server. Online is where everything is going. Pedro have you tried compiling LO from source Michael Meeks told me how to do it and its quite simple to get it compiling for the web at least from what i have been told, will soon find out if that is true. Compiling from source is beyond my skills :) But I'm available to do some testing of your virtual private server ;) However I hope that LO server based is a suite installed on a local server and running on the browser as Google docs does. This would allow to have a centrally updated stable office suite instead of having to install in each PC... If it is done in a similar manner to Google Docs and IBM Docs, the documents can be shared and even edited simultaneously by several users within an intranet. Am I daydreaming? :) No your not. I want to make what your saying a reality, At the moment I have vmware esxi which is major beurocratic BS to be able to resell services. I will probably end up going with an open source virtualization soultion like xen with lvm. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 17:26, Benjamin Horst wrote: I do hope that LibreOffice On Line becomes a reality! It would be the only (to my knowledge) Free own-server based office suite! There is one of which I am aware, having used it at a previous employer: Zimbra Docs. It is not widely documented or discussed online, for reasons I don't know. Here's a brief review, though: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. Ben Ben zimbra is proprietary as well now owned by vmware. With my luck on trying to start using vmware for virtualization as a start up business they have put me off using their products. Would be nice to develop a mail client to add to the LO suite. There appears to be an open source version of Zimbra still: http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html Whether it has the same feature set, I'm not sure. As mentioned, the documentation on Zimbra Docs is sparse! -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 19:50, Benjamin Horst wrote: On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 17:26, Benjamin Horst wrote: I do hope that LibreOffice On Line becomes a reality! It would be the only (to my knowledge) Free own-server based office suite! There is one of which I am aware, having used it at a previous employer: Zimbra Docs. It is not widely documented or discussed online, for reasons I don't know. Here's a brief review, though: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. Ben Ben zimbra is proprietary as well now owned by vmware. With my luck on trying to start using vmware for virtualization as a start up business they have put me off using their products. Would be nice to develop a mail client to add to the LO suite. There appears to be an open source version of Zimbra still: http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html Whether it has the same feature set, I'm not sure. As mentioned, the documentation on Zimbra Docs is sparse! -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com I dont know about that, but they have the free zimbra desktop mail client which i have tried and am not impressed with. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 19:50, Benjamin Horst wrote: On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 17:26, Benjamin Horst wrote: I do hope that LibreOffice On Line becomes a reality! It would be the only (to my knowledge) Free own-server based office suite! There is one of which I am aware, having used it at a previous employer: Zimbra Docs. It is not widely documented or discussed online, for reasons I don't know. Here's a brief review, though: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. Ben Ben zimbra is proprietary as well now owned by vmware. With my luck on trying to start using vmware for virtualization as a start up business they have put me off using their products. Would be nice to develop a mail client to add to the LO suite. There appears to be an open source version of Zimbra still: http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html Whether it has the same feature set, I'm not sure. As mentioned, the documentation on Zimbra Docs is sparse! -Ben I dont know about that, but they have the free zimbra desktop mail client which i have tried and am not impressed with. That client is a different story, and I didn't like it either, but you can use any email client you want with the email server. Regardless, it's the browser-based word processor, spreadsheet and slideshow creation tools within the Zimbra self-hosted server application that we're talking about here. If you haven't looked at them, I suggest you do. To my knowledge, they are the closest thing on the internet to a self-hosted, open source equivalent to Google Docs. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 20:04, Benjamin Horst wrote: On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 19:50, Benjamin Horst wrote: On Feb 4, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: On 04/02/2012 17:26, Benjamin Horst wrote: I do hope that LibreOffice On Line becomes a reality! It would be the only (to my knowledge) Free own-server based office suite! There is one of which I am aware, having used it at a previous employer: Zimbra Docs. It is not widely documented or discussed online, for reasons I don't know. Here's a brief review, though: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. Ben Ben zimbra is proprietary as well now owned by vmware. With my luck on trying to start using vmware for virtualization as a start up business they have put me off using their products. Would be nice to develop a mail client to add to the LO suite. There appears to be an open source version of Zimbra still: http://www.zimbra.com/products/zimbra-open-source.html Whether it has the same feature set, I'm not sure. As mentioned, the documentation on Zimbra Docs is sparse! -Ben I dont know about that, but they have the free zimbra desktop mail client which i have tried and am not impressed with. That client is a different story, and I didn't like it either, but you can use any email client you want with the email server. Regardless, it's the browser-based word processor, spreadsheet and slideshow creation tools within the Zimbra self-hosted server application that we're talking about here. If you haven't looked at them, I suggest you do. To my knowledge, they are the closest thing on the internet to a self-hosted, open source equivalent to Google Docs. -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com Ben i just had a major botched issue with vmware in regards to using esxi to resell services using this virtualization platform. I am apprehensive to try again with them cuz the company is so full of beurocracy it makes it hard for a small business such as mine to buy into their products. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
Hi Benjamin, all Benjamin Horst wrote http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. This is not even similar to Google Docs or IBM Docs. Zimbra Docs is a a WYSIWYG tool for creating, sharing, and publishing documents online - and note that this includes spreadsheets as well as word processing documents. I couldn't find a lot about word processing but what I did find looked more like a Rich Text editor. The spreadsheet is really a 6 columns by 10 lines Table. Naming that a spreadsheet is a little overkill... http://blogs.zdnet.com/images/Zimbra_documents.png In addition the Open Source version is a limited version of the paid one (I really feel cheated with this trick...) I guess this is not what I was referring to ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3716030.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On 04/02/2012 20:18, Pedro wrote: Hi Benjamin, all Benjamin Horst wrote http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. This is not even similar to Google Docs or IBM Docs. Zimbra Docs is a a WYSIWYG tool for creating, sharing, and publishing documents online - and note that this includes spreadsheets as well as word processing documents. I couldn't find a lot about word processing but what I did find looked more like a Rich Text editor. The spreadsheet is really a 6 columns by 10 lines Table. Naming that a spreadsheet is a little overkill... http://blogs.zdnet.com/images/Zimbra_documents.png In addition the Open Source version is a limited version of the paid one (I really feel cheated with this trick...) I guess this is not what I was referring to ;) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3716030.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. Pedro I would take a web based version of LO over zimbra google docs or office anyday :D -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Java
Hi therebeen testing 3.5.0 since beta...now RC3... I have also been testing Java 7 (now update 2). After each installation, LibreOffice doesn't like to play nice with Java 7 (which is working fine otherwise, both LibreOffice and Java), saying that the installation is defective and it won't use it. I do NOT have a parallel installation of Java 6, which has always worked well with LibreOffice... Has anyone else seen this? Is this a bug or is it just not ready for Java 7 (most users are still using Java 6) Note: This is in Windows and I have not tested this in Linux yet. Bob Boehm -- Operating System: openSUSE Linux 12.1 64 bit Linux Kernel: 3.1.9-1.4 compiled Jan 27th, 2012 File System: ext4 Desktop Environment: KDE 4.7.2 E-Mail Client: Thunderbird 10.0 Web Browser: Firefox 10.0 Office: LibreOffice 3.4.5 Video: nVidia 8600M GT 290.10 Driver ClamAV 0.97.3 for UNIX -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
On Feb 4, 2012, at 2:18 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Benjamin, all Benjamin Horst wrote http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/features/managing-docs-with-zimbra/ It worked pretty well in my usage, I'd use it again. This is not even similar to Google Docs or IBM Docs. Zimbra Docs is a a WYSIWYG tool for creating, sharing, and publishing documents online - and note that this includes spreadsheets as well as word processing documents. Yes, it is much closer to Google Docs than you think. I couldn't find a lot about word processing but what I did find looked more like a Rich Text editor. The spreadsheet is really a 6 columns by 10 lines Table. Naming that a spreadsheet is a little overkill... http://blogs.zdnet.com/images/Zimbra_documents.png This screenshot showing 6x10 cells does not mean that's all the app can do. I recall using it for much more than that. In addition the Open Source version is a limited version of the paid one (I really feel cheated with this trick...) It's an annoying trick when companies do this. I don't know if Zimbra reduces the feature set, or if they just don't offer support for the open source version. If you are serious about evaluating existing competitors in this space and want to carry out real due diligence, you need to download and install the Zimbra open source version to experiment with it. The installation I used was set up by our IT team, and I don't know how they configured it, what add-ons they may have installed, whether we were using the open source or closed source versions, etc. I'll be happy to help you. Do you have a server or VM that we could use to test? -Ben Benjamin Horst bho...@mac.com 646-464-2314 (Eastern) www.solidoffice.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: IBM is alive ;)
Hi Benjamin Benjamin Horst wrote If you are serious about evaluating existing competitors in this space and want to carry out real due diligence, you need to download and install the Zimbra open source version to experiment with it. The installation I used was set up by our IT team, and I don't know how they configured it, what add-ons they may have installed, whether we were using the open source or closed source versions, etc. I'll be happy to help you. Do you have a server or VM that we could use to test? Thank you for your offer. But Zimbra is not what I'm looking for. And I really won't test a product just to find out that the feature that I need Is available on the paid Professional version. I sincerely prefer to test a Trial version which has all features but a limited time than a limited version. I guess I'll keep waiting for LOWE :) Kind regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/IBM-is-alive-tp3715436p3716220.html Sent from the Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
