Re: [tdf-discuss] Substitute for Micorsoft Access

2012-11-08 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 08.11.2012 07:33, schrieb Jonathan Aquilina:

 Base is the equivalent and is already part of Libre Office

In order to avoid wrong expectations:
Base is NOT a substitute for  Microsoft Access. It is not meant as a
substitute for Microsoft Access and nobody seriously claims it to be.

You may be able to access Data from within a MDB-File with
LibreOffice Base. But you are not able to use an application with
forms and macros within an MDB-File with LibreOffice Base. You may
be able to rudimentarily reproduce such an application in
LibreOffice Base, though.

Cheers,
Stefan

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Substitute for Micorsoft Access

2012-11-08 Thread lordmax tdf

Il 08/11/2012 07:33, Jonathan Aquilina ha scritto:

Base is the equivalent and is already part of Libre Office

On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:04 PM, David Boles dgbo...@gmail.com wrote:


Is there a FOSS, or shareware, equivalent for Microsoft Access that
would work with LibreOffice?



Obviously base alredy part of libreoffice but also Kexy it's a good 
product and simplest but powerfull SQLite (it's a rdbm Db on single 
file, really usefull for simple and portable project but powerfull if 
you know PL/Sql)





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[tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Randolph D.
Dear all,
after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more
members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
browser would be a good codebasis for that:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
recommendations for the steps to plan?
Regards Randolph

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Claudio Delpino
I'm a common and simple user, no more, no less, so perhaps there's a
part of the picture i'm missing, but there are some questions that
arise:

- What would be the befenit of adding a browser to the current office suite ?

- What different features would keep you from reinventing the wheel /
allow you to do a better job than other communities that are
dedicated to mantaining and creating a browser ?

- Is this really the best place to put dev effort at the moment for
libreoffice ?

My implicit response is that I don't like the idea, and I think the
community will react negatively to it.

To me, it is a bit far fetched.

Regards
Claudio

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear all,
 after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more
 members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
 We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
 the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
 reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
 browser would be a good codebasis for that:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
 Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
 the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
 open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
 recommendations for the steps to plan?
 Regards Randolph

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 10:04:10PM +0100, Randolph D. wrote:
 Dear all,
 after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more
 members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
 We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
 the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
 reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
 browser would be a good codebasis for that:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
 Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
 the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
 open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
 recommendations for the steps to plan?
 Regards Randolph
 
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Talk nicely to one of the other projects making small browsers? Netsurf / Midori
might also be interested and are small codebase and lightweight.

AndyC

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Tim Schofield
I can see the point behind working with one or more of the open source
browsers to better integrate libreoffice with the browser. I can even see
the point of offering that browser as part of the download, but I am not
convinced that writing yet another open source browser is a good idea. It
seems a waste of developer resources and it would be unlikely that enough
good developers could be attracted to do the work in order to compete with
the established projects.

I use coffee every day in the office but I don't expect libreoffice to
supply me with it :-)

Just my 2p for what its worth I am not a libreoffice developer.

Thanks
Tim


On 8 November 2012 21:04, Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more
 members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
 We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
 the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
 reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
 browser would be a good codebasis for that:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
 Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
 the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
 open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
 recommendations for the steps to plan?
 Regards Randolph

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread MiguelAngel

El 08/11/12 22:39, Tim Schofield escribió:

I can see the point behind working with one or more of the open source
browsers to better integrate libreoffice with the browser. I can even see
the point of offering that browser as part of the download, but I am not
convinced that writing yet another open source browser is a good idea. It
seems a waste of developer resources and it would be unlikely that enough
good developers could be attracted to do the work in order to compete with
the established projects.

I use coffee every day in the office but I don't expect libreoffice to
supply me with it :-)

Just my 2p for what its worth I am not a libreoffice developer.

Thanks
Tim


On 8 November 2012 21:04, Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com wrote:


Dear all,
after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include more
members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
browser would be a good codebasis for that:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
recommendations for the steps to plan?
Regards Randolph

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Why not use something like the chromium browser ( aka chrome) that is open
source. Why would the wheel need to be reinvented?

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi wrote:

 No.

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Adding the browser to Libreoffice

2012-11-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Yifan web based support is already in the works. Michael Meeks is
conducting that work, but its not ready for use yet.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Yi Fan Jiang yfji...@suse.com wrote:

 Hi Randolph,

 Unfortunately my first response is NO.

 The development might be for fun, but I didn't see a persuasive
 reason of why we need one browser in a office suite. IMHO, in that case
 we seem not to improve foreseeable usability, functionality or
 productivity
 to the suite, will we?

 Instead, in an other way, I'd rather to put such an effort in improving
 Libreoffice by put it into a browser, while obviously it is another thing
 to
 discuss.

 Best wishes,
 Yifan

  Randolph D. rdohm...@gmail.com 11/09/12 5:05 AM 
 Dear all,
 after some talks with some board members, the request rised to include
 more members and developers in the idea of adding a browser to Libreoffice.
 We know this needs time and work, but would not be impossible to add it to
 the installer and create a place to be for it, and see, how the community
 reacts to it and requests more interaction. This security orientated webkit
 browser would be a good codebasis for that:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/dooble/
 Any pro or cons from anyone? No person in the office works today without
 the internet, the consequence is, an office suite needs or could provide an
 open source browser. Anyone interested to test or join the idea or
 recommendations for the steps to plan?
 Regards Randolph


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