Re: [board-discuss] dialling in via Google Hangouts
Il 15/05/2013 15:56, Florian Effenberger ha scritto: Hear you in an hour, Might be a couple of minute late, but I will join for sure. -- Italo Vignoli - italo.vign...@gmail.com mob +39.348.5653829 - VoIP 5316...@messagenet.it skype italovignoli - gtalk italo.vign...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] BoD minutes from 2013-04-17
Hello, attached are the board meeting minutes from the BoD phone meeting on April 17th. This message is to be archived by the BoD and its deputies. Florian Minutes 2013-04-17 The Document Foundation Board of Directors Meeting Call Minutes Date: Wednesday, April the 17th, 2013 Location: Phone Conference Room Session chair: Florian Effenberger (Chairman of the Board) Keeper of the minutes: Thorsten Behrens (Board of Directors) In the call: Thorsten Behrens, Florian Effenberger, Caolan McNamara, and Italo Vignoli. Representations: Jesus Corrius (representing Olivier Hallot), Björn Michaelsen (representing Charles H. Schulz), and Andreas Mantke (representing Michael Meeks). Chairman of the Board is in the call. One of the Chairman or Deputy is required to be present or represented for having a quorate call. The Board of Directors at time of the call consists of 7 seat holders without deputies. In order to be quorate, the call needs to have 1/2 of the Board of Directors members, which gives 4. A total of 7 Board of Directors members or their representatives are attending the call. The board waives all formal statutory requirements, or requirements in the foundations articles, or other requirements regarding form and invitation, time limits, and for the topics discussed in this meeting. The call is quorate. From now on, a quorum can be reached with a simple majority of 4 votes. The meeting commences at 15:05 UTC. 1. Formal approval of the annual report and the financial report - see http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/msg03163.html Request: approve annual report and annual financial report, authorize Florian and Thorsten to sign letter of representation towards tax advise, and order tax advise to hand in report to tax office. Also authorize Florian and Thorsten to send in annual report to foundation authorities on behalf of the board. Florian explains the annual report needs to outline how we met our objectives in 2012, and that it must give an overview of our activities. Thorsten likewise explains the financial report must accurately report all accounting-relevant numbers towards the tax office. - Florian asks to have the following vote and further discussions private, the call continues in the private conference room - Result of vote: consensus approval (7 out of 7) Decision: The request has been accepted. 2. Conference 2013 website Discussion: Italo will provide Andreas with content. 3. Creating administrative access point to the board for project internal requests Discussion: advertise i...@documentfoundation.org for private and board-discuss@documentfoundation.org for public inquiries. For interactive help on administrative things, ask on the #tdf-infra irc channel AI: Thorsten to add corresponding line to BoD / QA meetings wiki page. 4. New download page, and further website improvements Discussion: roll out new donation page to all NL projects, then if technically feasible implement it inside SilverStripe itself. 5. Travel budgets Discussion: Suggestion to account for travel approval via normal Berlin budgets, if possible refund via SPI. Once the SPI payment clears, free the Berlin budget again. This leverages the lightweight budget approval process, and conservatively backstops travel with Berlin capital. End of agenda, no additions. Attending at the end of the meeting: Thorsten Behrens, Florian Effenberger, Caolan McNamara, Italo Vignoli, Jesus Corrius, Björn Michaelsen, and Andreas Mantke. The meeting adjournes at 16:04 UTC. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] missing board minutes
Hello, there are two sets of board minutes missing: - 2013-02-20 = Andreas - 2013-04-03 = Olivier I know Olivier is busy at the moment, but if both of you could send them in until the next call in two weeks, that'd be great. Thanks, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] dialling in via Google Hangouts
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 15:56 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: those of you who have issues with the phone line, here's another approach that seems to work fairly well - dialling in to the confcall via Google Hangouts: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Talkyoo#Connecting_from_your_computer That turned out really good :-) thanks for the tip ! It'd be nice to try to congregate as many as possible on-line with video in the hang-out and call into talkyo only for recording / land-line users I think (?). Thanks, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com , Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: board-discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Re: New Locale - Steps?
Le 14/05/13 12:48 PM, Joel Madero a écrit : Everything is explained on the wiki, from here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Language and then also navigating to the l10n category, there is more information. Of course, we'll welcome him on our l10n list. Thanks Sophie! Will pass it on to him. I was a bit surprised when I googled LibreOffice Locale Mailing Lists I didn't get any useful hits :-/ Best, Joel Once these steps have been taken care of, she/he can drop a message off on the website list and we will help with getting a website organized. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[tdf-discuss] Are there some plans to extend PDF/A export to new versions of that standard in addition to PDF/A-1?
Hi Everyone, are there some plans to extend PDF/A export to new versions of that standard other than and in addition to PDF/A-1? I mean PDF/A-2 and PDF/A-3 that are already ISO standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A Nice Google SoC activity? ;-) Have All a sunny day, Carlo -- ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] BoD minutes from 2013-04-17
Florian Effenberger wrote: AI: Thorsten to add corresponding line to BoD / QA meetings wiki page. This is done meanwhile. -- Thorsten signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
Traducción de texto o de páginas web I think it would be good to allow donations to certain feature of the program. If there is a particular functionality, the team could estimate cost as a budget with a code attached. If the donations do you put the code, once you reach the budget target the team could prioritize such development. It seems right?? Translated with Google, I know Spanish, I am willing to learn Esperanto, but impose English as the national language is any unfair. Escribe texto o la dirección de un sitio web, o bien, traduce un documento http://translate.google.com/?tr=fhl=es. Cancelar http://translate.google.com/?tr=thl=es Ejemplo del uso de : traducido automáticamente por Google El 15/05/13 17:04, Carlo Strata escribió: Hi Everyone, are there some plans to extend PDF/A export to new versions of that standard other than and in addition to PDF/A-1? I mean PDF/A-2 and PDF/A-3 that are already ISO standards: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A Nice Google SoC activity? ;-) Have All a sunny day, Carlo -- Usa el esperanto para acelerar el aprendizaje de idiomas, ganarás años como demuestran los estudios científicos realizados (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valor_proped%C3%A9utico_del_esperanto). Puede leer más sobre el idioma en http://personal.us.es/gmolleda/lingvoj.html, http://www.2-2.se/es/ y http://esperantofre.com/edu/iloj01h.htm#celo. El inglés, francés, alemán o chino mandarín son muy ineficientes para su aprendizaje como segundo idioma (mejor tercero) y fuente de grandes movimientos de divisas de países pobres hacia los más ricos. Igual que aprendes a escribir primero trazos y no directamente las letras, es mejor para el cerebro aprender primero una lengua regular y planificada. * Guillermo Molleda Jimena Departamento de Economía Financiera y Dirección de Operaciones Facultad de Turismo y Finanzas Universidad de Sevilla Avda. San Francisco Javier s/n 41018 Sevilla Tfno: 954 55 16 55 Fax: 954 55 75 70 E-mail: gmoll...@us.es http://personal.us.es/gmolleda * -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Spending money, via donations, geared to one feature and not the whole package can be a VERY bad marketing issue. I never liked it. If you donate money to one feature and it does not get added, or fixed, in your time line and not the developer's, it can be a mess. We do not know what can be fixed easily, or if something that looks simple will be a real hard add or fix. The simple things tend to be not so simple. We cannot even make a paper trail to show an agency [required by] that the donation towards a feature would even go to it. That would make a big legal mess. Paying a third party to fix things has been used by spammers for a long time. +1 to all that, but I think offering a payment and letting a developer opt in or out is fine. As long as user and developer understand LibreOffice has no part in the process. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
On 05/15/2013 02:03 PM, Joel Madero wrote: On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: Spending money, via donations, geared to one feature and not the whole package can be a VERY bad marketing issue. I never liked it. If you donate money to one feature and it does not get added, or fixed, in your time line and not the developer's, it can be a mess. We do not know what can be fixed easily, or if something that looks simple will be a real hard add or fix. The simple things tend to be not so simple. We cannot even make a paper trail to show an agency [required by] that the donation towards a feature would even go to it. That would make a big legal mess. Paying a third party to fix things has been used by spammers for a long time. +1 to all that, but I think offering a payment and letting a developer opt in or out is fine. As long as user and developer understand LibreOffice has no part in the process. Best, Joel Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need to account for that payment/donation and where it went to. That is the real problem with targeted donations and payments. There will be a mess in paperwork to deal with it. Opt in, opt out, What it was used for. Keeping track of all of who pays what, for what, can cost more than thepayment in paperwork and legal fees. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need to account for that payment/donation and where it went to. That is the real problem with targeted donations and payments. There will be a mess in paperwork to deal with it. Opt in, opt out, What it was used for. Keeping track of all of who pays what, for what, can cost more than thepayment in paperwork and legal fees. This has been discussed quite a bit on user list and brought up during ESC at some point and I thought the consensus was we'll just let them do what they want and not endorse, support, etc... any of that. I thought that kept us out of legal muddy waters. It'd be similar to me just going to a friend who is a programmer and saying dude, can I pay you $100 to fix this issue - a contract completely out of TDF's hands. Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
On 2013-05-16 07:45, Joel Madero wrote: Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need to account for that payment/donation and where it went to. That is the real problem with targeted donations and payments. There will be a mess in paperwork to deal with it. Opt in, opt out, What it was used for. Keeping track of all of who pays what, for what, can cost more than thepayment in paperwork and legal fees. This has been discussed quite a bit on user list and brought up during ESC at some point and I thought the consensus was we'll just let them do what they want and not endorse, support, etc... any of that. I thought that kept us out of legal muddy waters. It'd be similar to me just going to a friend who is a programmer and saying dude, can I pay you $100 to fix this issue - a contract completely out of TDF's hands. Best, Joel Would this paid for feature not then create a fork in the code, then are you committing to maintaining that branch until some time (may be never) that the branch feature is voted into the main code base. It seems a bit impractical when you have a continually evolving product to pay to add a feature unless you are assured it will be included in the main code base and maintained. Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Donations system: pay for a feature
On 05/15/2013 03:45 PM, Joel Madero wrote: Any payments and/or donations must be accounted for and if the person paying has any intent it to go to xyz, then by regulations we may need to account for that payment/donation and where it went to. That is the real problem with targeted donations and payments. There will be a mess in paperwork to deal with it. Opt in, opt out, What it was used for. Keeping track of all of who pays what, for what, can cost more than thepayment in paperwork and legal fees. This has been discussed quite a bit on user list and brought up during ESC at some point and I thought the consensus was we'll just let them do what they want and not endorse, support, etc... any of that. I thought that kept us out of legal muddy waters. It'd be similar to me just going to a friend who is a programmer and saying dude, can I pay you $100 to fix this issue - a contract completely out of TDF's hands. Best, Joel In other words, you (the user who wants the feature) offers a bounty to anyone willing to fix the bug for you. This does not involve LO directly, so they are in the clear. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
