Re: [board-discuss] Resignation from the Membership Committee
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Board Members, dear Foundation trustees, I hereby resign from The Documents Foundation's Membership Committee. I'm looking forward to see the first full elections of a Membership Committe as defined in our statues. Thanks to the current (past) members of the MC and also thanks to the Board members for all the support. (Not to forget our trustees, for the contributions to LibreOffice). best regards, André Schnabel -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQDFPAAAoJED/K41EyZ3hDz6UH/RlLdCcXnMMHX+lvxhajeh4v nYUcQzHx64/a0sEWwASP4NcxAyfKa35q204K6Li0irSOyqzmCIPzwR8WpABZHsjL B9PR8zdZKgbmcRSmBuCVpTwLmp/bQKwu68oxhlmNWdl6sZVITo3tEeKOqRW9FDkK XP9dFUorwbih8zkOJ7Dd8JPbCby4tYYPswR3vAzQ+hDLrUdBujX09XM7yg2SRq6D icxbGhRROm2uBasMigghWAx3WzRcQ3+zZpDiwJCfrzsRyJb80JYP+Xps4m9z/JLQ LnQ2oC2LkcSjDa5EAdqWXavm1AKgh0y2GWUeTQF9PP1jXK4JDM2PA/1lo1k5ERg= =Dz67 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] New members
Hi all, back from the end of the year vacations, the MC started to process membership applications. So our new members are: - Fa Conti ( user support and contributing to user documentation in Brazil) - Rui Ogawa (contributions to brazilain magazine and proting LibreOffice in sozial networks) - Raul Pacheco da Silva (contributions to brazilian user documentation and magazine) - Lionel Elie Mamane (several code contributions, e.g. for PostgreSQL driver, build system enhancements and other fixes) - Ivan Timofeev (several code contibutions, e.g. print dialog enhancements) - Olav Dahlum (maintaining Norwegian localization and website) - Peter Foley (fixes and enhancements for the build system / gbuild) A warm welcome to all of them from my side Kind regards André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] New members
Hi all, The Membership commitee started again to process membership applications. So our new members are: (already approved on 2011-10-31) - Kevin Hunter (cotinous code contribution, promoting LibreOffice) - Tollef Fog Heen (our bugzilla SysAdmin) - Peter Szakal (active promotion of LibreOffice in Hungary, through PR and local events) (approved on 2011-11-14) - Jean-Yves ROYER (constant user support at mailing lists, one of the organizers of LibOCon Paris) - Loic Dachary (development of the Bug Submission Assistant) - Jesse Adelman (developer, e.g. add-modeline script) A warm welcome to all of them from my side Kind regards André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[board-discuss] New foundation web pages published
Hi, as noticed before, I published some new pages at the foundation website: http://www.documentfoundation.org/foundation/ Information is not final, as we still are in (but close to the end of) the process of establishing the legal foundation. If you have requests (or obligations) for further changes (besides fixing my usual typos :( ), please tell. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] New foundation web pages published
Hi, Am 16.11.2011 22:16, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: The page is broken in ie 9.0 win7 64bit. In FF and Chrome the page is ok. I'm ccing you to attach a screenshot. I have not the rights to change it for myself. Well - I see the problem in your screenshot, but the page displays fine for me using IE9, win7 64bit (so the same as for you). No idea, what needs to be fixed. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [board-discuss] New foundation web pages published
Hi, Am 16.11.2011 21:17, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi, André Schnabel wrote on 2011-11-16 21:12: I'd rather put these information only after the rules are legally safe (means when the statutes have been accepted by the authorities). I know, the current content of the pages is just a compromise. another proposal: How about adding the e-mail addresses of the seat holders? Might that make sense? For what reason? (And in case you name one, why had'nt this be a reason within the last year?) To get in touch with the TDF? - we have a contacts page, listing the mailing lists and dedicated spokespeople To get in touch with the BoD members? - altough the BoD is representing the Foundation, that does not mean that contct information must be available in public - you can just go to the mailinglist and pick the adresses there (some bod members even list full contact details in their signature) So I would not make that a requirement - but if some members want to add contact details .. why not. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to board-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Preparing elections for the membership committee
Hi, Am 30.10.2011 17:09, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud: Maybe we can do with the current MC as 'initially designated' for the first 6 month of the foundation and organize a MC election then, since it would be a good idea to have BoD election and MC election somewhat separated to avoid 'oversight'/'membership' issues. Seems reasonable to me - as long as there is a substitude for Thorsten and all of the other MC members agree to be on duty for another 6 months. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Associations around TDF
Hi Sophie, Am 26.10.2011 16:50, schrieb Sophie Gautier: Who would like to work with me on drawing the guidelines for the 3rd type in a first time, then on the 2nd type. I can help with type 3 .. but I'd be happy to see other people helping (you know, it gets quite boring when a founding member of TDF and FrODeV - two entities who currently have a very close relationship - tries to write some guidelines for exactly these relationship ;) ) what would also be very helpfull woult be a list of interested NGOs should I satrt a list at the wiki? regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [steering-discuss] Optional local NGO donation links on download and extension pages
Hi, Am 19.10.2011 19:24, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: this proposal is now recorded as approved by the SC at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions So - all we need is someone to implement this :) Is there someone at the website team able to take care about this? So the requirement is to have the actual donation form on the download page directly? No - I would not do that (at least not for local NGOs). If we would do, we would end up with a quite a complex form - and we would need to make sure that the donation details are correct for each and every NGO. What we need is a way to link to donations from the download site. The generic information (which should be at every download page, no matter of the locale) would be http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/donate/ plus info about SPI (Sophie should be able to provide the details, I think). From my understanding, you want the automatically generated download-page to also add links (or full paypal forms? please specify/provide what shall be added to the html at best :-)) + additionall approved, language specific organizations, is that right? I would go for links plus a short introduction of the NGO. For FrODev I'd put something like: Freies Office Deutschland e.V. ist ein gemeinnütziger Verein, der die Arbeit an LibreOffice und anderen freien Office-Projekten finanziell, durch Bereitstellung von Infrastruktur und Informationsmaterial sowie durch aktive Mitarbeit unterstützt. Spendenmöglichkeiten finden Sie unter http://www.frodev.org/spenden regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Proposal: Optional local NGO donation links on download and extension pages
Hi Thorsten, * Am 22.09.2011 10:28, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: ... A local, native-lang NGO, that is in good standing with TDF, and fulfills the following prerequisites * has at least three NGO members, that are accepted TDF members at the same time * is an non-profit organisation * has, in the past year, organised or participated in at least one local or native-lang event, that was promoting or helping LibreOffice can ask for having their donation details listed on the native lang download and extension pages, below the generic TDF one. Multiple NGOs per native-lang category can apply, and are listed in order of application. Listed NGOs are reviewed after one year. Currently I count 4 SC member voting +1 plus one deputy voting +1. Although this meets the criteria for a quorum I'd suggest that more SC members express their support for the proposal I know that almost all of us support it, but this needs to be documented ;). Note that I did not count Thorsten as supporting vote, as there is no clear indication although he sent in the proposal. Thanks and regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] SC call on 15th
Am 07.10.2011 14:50, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, following our usual schedule, the next SC call would be on Saturday, 15th. However, since most of us are still in Paris there, and will meet in person, I propose we adjourn that call, so the next SC call will be on Wednesday, 19th. +1 André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] donation button on German download page
Hi Drew, Am 20.09.2011 19:53, schrieb drew: (lot's of usefull comment :) ) To be clear though - in general I do not think having direct donation requests on LibreOffice pages for external organizations is wise, though I do think TDF/LibreOffice pages should include links to external organization websites where appropriate ( and IMO should be fairly liberal in defining appropriate ) after all I think, we (means you an me, not speaking for others here) have quite the same ideas on the matter. So thanks for clarification. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] MC meeting minutes 2011-09-19
Hi, minutes from today's MC meeting are at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-09-19 Please review. In short: - status and next steps for elections - no applications processed (due to application freeze during BoD elections) best regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] decision on screenshots
Hi Tom, Am 08.08.2011 15:43, schrieb Tom Davies: The fact that one person is ignorant of the risk (or chooses to ignore it) does not mean the rest of the Steering Committee are. Indeed, there was a meeting that came up with the rough draft of the 2 paragraphs prepared by Florian. There is still no mention of where the responsibility would lay if the perceived risk did happen but as the meeting wrote it, the potential threat should be avoided by using GnuLinux if easily possible. this was briefly mentioned during the call: the publisher of the screenshots would be at risk. So initially the risk at the indiviual who contributes the screenshot (and therefore publishes it at the wiki, a documentation collaboration site or anywhere else). If TDF makes the document an official TDF documentation (means TDF is the visible publisher) the risk is at TDF as well. With GnuLinux screen-shots there is NO risk. Oh, who did say that ? :) E.g. no Gnu/Linux software license gives you permission to take a screenshot and redistribute this under a CC license. Of course, there would be hardly any FLOSS developer claiming that you should not do so. There was a suggestion earlier in the discussion that if TDF did get clobbered by MS for using screen-shots on their OSes then it could 1. Let MS target individuals that produced the screen-shots or 2. TDF could counter-sue the individuals themselves The post also suggested that TDF should reject any documentation that was produced using non-Windows screen-shots. Oh - imho TDF should be there to protect individuals (who actually contribute to TDF projects), not to sue them. In the MS vs TomTom case. TomTom were forced to pay substantial damages to MS for saving data. The TomTom devices used what 'everyone' uses for saving data. The hardware was their own, the systems were their own but they used Fat32, or Fat16 file-systems for saving their own data onto their own devices. This is a completely different story, as parts of FAT are patent protected and MS is getting patent license fees from almost all implementors (so yes, even for your digicam you likey pay to MS). But .. this is getting far off-topic. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials
Hi, in our latest SC-Call we discussed the issue about taking and publishing Screenshots on windows. As we had no quorum in the call, I'd ask every SC member / deputy to vote on the statement we agreed in the call. The statement is: It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible. Meeting minutes are at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-07-13 regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Using (Windows) Screnshots in TDF materials
So .. casting my vote Am 18.07.2011 19:22, schrieb André Schnabel: The statement is: It is noted that several members of the SC acknowledge the existence of a legal risk to display screenshots of LibreOffice on Windows, but the risk is deemed low, therefore, while screenshots on GNU/Linux should be the default ones, screenshots on Windows are also possible. +1 André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Call for SC-vote: Changes in the Membership Committee
Hi, this topic has already been discussed here at the list and briefly in our last SC call. But there is no formal decision yet. To keep the MC operational during the next weeks, I proposed some changes (approve all current deputies as full members, MC will take decisions consensus with a needed quorum of 2/3rd). My proposal to add David Emmerich Jourdain did not get consensus (while the other two items seemd to have this) - so I'd skipp this part for now. Please also note, that this changes would be temporary, as we will have to re-elect the MC soon after BoD-elections. So I'd ask each SC member / deputy to vote on following two items: 1. approve all current deputies of the MC as full MC members. (so the MC will have 5 members in total - Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André Schnabel, Thorsten Behrens, Cor Nouws ) 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a needed quorum of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members). Thanks and regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Re: screen-shots Documentation Team
Hi David, Am 13.07.2011 17:34, schrieb David Nelson: I noted your change to the agenda item: (Italo: I do not like the way this item for discussion has been worded, according to what has been discussed in the mailing list) I was invited to add an agenda item for discussion, and this is the subject that I'm hoping that the SC will clarify, which arises from multiple past discussions about Windows screenshots. Given the claimed legal sensitivity of the issue, and the claimed legal liability arising from use of Windows screenshots, I feel it is indeed a valid matter to put before the SC for some official guidance/decisions. I fully agree with Italo here. The discussion here at the list (and even you comment right now) is focused on the legal implications and what the SC would think of it. Your wording for the agenda item is much broader and requests a general decision on the screenshots independent from possible legal implications. For agenda item 2: a very basic rule for questions to the SC should be that the question should be crystal clear and not be changed half a day before the SC's decision. At the moment I don't even know anymore what the actual question is. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] MC meeting minutes
Hi, minutes from today's MC meeting are online at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-07-13 Unfortunately we missed two applications that have been in review already (completely my fault, leading the meeting). We need to take care about this in the next meeting. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Wiki page with SC decisions
Hi, as suggested at the last SC meeting I started a wiki page listing our decisions. I started this at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/BoD_Decisions if no one objects to the general form, I'd link this page from the SC and bylaws bages in the wiki. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Request for changes of Membership Committee
Dear SC members, as today's MC meeting had to be postponed again we (Sophie and me) like to suggest following changes for the MC: 1. approve all current deputies of the MC plus David Emmerich Jourdain (who volunteered as deputiy but has not yet been approved) as full MC members. (so the MC will have 6 members in total - curent deputies and David of courrse need to agree on this ) 2. approve that the MC should decide on applications in consensus with a needed qurom of 2/3rd (means currently 4 members). Reviewing membership applications is (imho) one of the key tasks for our community - so the current situation is quite unfortunate. Sophie and me agreed, that we should not take a decision if only two members are in a meeting. Thanks and regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Meeting Minutes online
Hi, minutes from yesterday's meeting are online http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Steering_Committee_Meetings#Meeting_minutes please read and review. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] next SC call
Hi, not sure if I can make it (likely not in time - maybe not at all). maybe Leif can join as my deputy? regards, André Am 26.06.2011 20:56, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hi, this is just a short reminder that the next SC call is this Wednesday, June 29th, at 1600 UTC The SC call thereafter will be on Saturday, July 9th, at 1400 UTC Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] MC-meeting minutes 2011-06-16
Hi, meeting minutes are at the wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee_Meetings#Minutes_2011-06-16 (Cor, Fridrich - please edit the wiki, if I forgot something important.) I'll inform the approved members (and rejected applicants) within the next few hours and update the website after that. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Membership Committee wiki page updated
Hi, I just updated the infos at the MC wiki page (improve the generic agenda, so that it is showing, what we discuss; link to the minutes page; add mailing list name for how to contact the MC). And in addition to that: I feel sorry to say, that yesterday's meeting had to be adjourned. I hope, we find a new timeslot within the next days, as some people are really wayiting for their application to be processed. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] FYI: Apache Incubator is now voting
Hi, Am 11.06.2011 16:24, schrieb Norbert Thiebaud: And if it wasn't for all that I would still suggest that bylaws should codify the 'minimum' required to maintain a functioning Foundation in case of discord... It should not be an attempt to codify _everything_ we do. +1 .. if we did otherwise, we would not be able to survive in an always changing world. Such 'tradition' (like the non-biding vote at Apache for example), is a matter of collective culture, something that evolve organically by tacit consensus... over time. You may have noticed that there is no 'biding -'1 in the current vote so far (unless I missed one) I currently count 2. But am no expert for Apache procedures either. André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] proposed bylaws changes
Hi, +1 for all of the proposed changes. regards, André Am 09.06.2011 10:17, schrieb Florian Effenberger: Hello, as we are moving forward with legally setting up the foundation, and translate/adapt the bylaws into German, we noticed that some tweaks and simplifications are required - in general we feel the shorter these documents are, the better it is for understanding. Proposed change #1: --- We should replace the words moral commitment (which are rather off-putting to many with a stark view of their integrity and morals) with something softer: from: Every membership applicant must have been active for at least three (3) months, and should make a moral commitment to at least six (6) months activity (not counting the first three (3) months of fulfillment of qualification). to: Every membership applicant must have been active for at least three (3) months, and should make a best effort commitment to continuing their activity for a further six (6) months. Which I hope captures the spirit, without invoking things that cannot be predicted. Proposed change #2: --- Then a separate set of changes cleanups around the Advisory Board: * The /Donor/ definition is not referenced outside of the /Sponsor/ definition, and so should be collapsed into there. * The /Sponsor/ definition is referenced in a redundant, non-normative way by the Members/Contributors definition and should be removed. from: The Community's Members are people who contribute their time, efforts and skills independently (individual persons contributing on either a paid or unpaid basis), or who may work for Sponsors (refer to definition of Sponsors). to: The Community's Members are individuals who contribute their time, efforts and skills whether on a paid or voluntary basis. Proposed change #3: --- * Remove the Sponsors section. This is now only referred to in the Advisory Board definition and sections, and as such can be expanded there. * Expand the Advisory Board definition. from: The Advisory Board represents the Foundation's Sponsors. Each Sponsor is entitled to appoint one representative. For more information, see Advisory Board under Governance. to: The Advisory Board provides a forum for organisations that provide a substantial minimum level of financial, or other support as determined by the BoD to meet with the BoD and provide advice. For more information, see Advisory Board under Governance. Proposed change #4: --- * Re-work the Advisory Board section: from: The Advisory Board [AB] is staffed by Sponsors' representatives (refer to definition of Sponsors). Each Sponsor can have no more than one representative on the Advisory Board. Each Sponsor's representative is appointed for a term of one (1) year, but can be re-appointed for a further year in office at the end of each term. The AB's primary function is to represent The Document Foundation's Sponsors, and to provide the Board of Directors with advice, guidance and proposals. to: The Advisory Board [AB] is staffed, at the BoD's discretion by organisations that havemade a substantial contribution to The Document Foundation. Each organisation appointing a single representative to the Advisory Board based on a yearly fee to be determined by the BoD. The AB's primary function is to represent these organisations by providing the BoD with advice, guidance and proposals. Thoughts? Florian -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
Hi Jim, Am 08.06.2011 18:25, schrieb Jim Jagielski: It's possible, sure, but if the ASF were to do this, then I would expect that they/we would spent quite a bit of time determining the best place for it... Not saying that it's not TDF, but who knows... Not a slam against TDF at all, just an honest statement that we don't know where it would go. I see no problem in that statement, as it is just what you say: honest. But a mail before you wrote: ... There are people who see TDF's resistance to working with the ASF ... I do not see, that this resistance really exists for two reasons: 1st It is up to the individuals to bring a project forward, so the TDF as abstract entity would do very abstract work only. If you have a look at the recent discussions, you may notice that many TDF members already gave a lot of input and helped Apache to make a good decision. I personally would consider this as working together (at least as a first step). 2nd I hope I'm allowed to be as honest as you are. I don't feel that ASF is the best place for the OOo trademark and source code. But I still consider Apache as a good place - so imho we are at a quite even level (unless you want to tell that TDF would be a really bad place for the OOo assets ;) ). regards, André (PS.: same rule here as at the Apache lists: I'm speaking as individual - not as TDF) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal
Hi, I almost forgot about that, as it is not a summit but may be the earliest date for a meeting. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/DE/QAWochenende2011 So if some of you live rather close to Essen/Germany you may join us there. It would be helpfull to understand / speak German, as it is a meeting of the German community members. We used to have this as annual meeting with focus on QA and localization for some years now. But it is always a nice event to get to know each other, have barbecue, pizza and beer (or whatever you like ;) ) If you like to join, please notify Jacqueline and prefferable disc...@de.libreoffice.org. There are still some places left to stay overnight (but please be aware the we only have double rooms). regards, André PS.: -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] RE: Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice
Hi, Am 04.06.2011 18:41, schrieb Ian Lynch: On 4 June 2011 17:29, Gianluca Turconipub...@letturefantastiche.comwrote: Is it sure there will be a *product*? I think IBM need it for symphony so on those grounds alone I'd say there will be code licensed so that it can be used in that product as a minimum. Let me rephrase to: Will there be a product named OpenOffice.org? I cannot answer, but as Gianluca mentioned Apache is more about a project, not a product. And considering the OOo dependencies to copyleft components, it will be quite a lot of work to get something that can be called product and behaves like OpenOffice.org. It is obvious that there will be a product called Symphony .. but OpenOffice.org? regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Vendor string usage in third-party package of LibreOffice
Hi, Am 12.05.2011 15:29, schrieb Francois Tigeot: ... So in your case, there might be confusion what the origin of the sofware is - you are the vendor, but you are not TDF. I'm starting to realize the vendor term should be defined: I'm only writing packaging scripts, and many third-parties could use them to provide finished binary packages. The origin of the software, is clearly TDF: the source code is used as-is, without any modification. There may be some small platform-specific patches in the future but that's all. It's likely for me to fail giving a good vendor definition in English. Let's have a look at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_%28supply_chain%29 'Vendor' generally applies only to the immediate vendor, or the organization that is paid for the goods, rather than to the original manufacturer or the organization performing the service if it is different from the immediate supplier. In this context you may see TDF as the original manufacturer (of the source code) while you are the immediate supplier (of the final package containing your modifications). Therefore: It is absolutely ok to use the LibreOffice trademark, but it is questionable to use The Document Foundation trademark. Should I only use LibreOffice ? The wording on the about box would give this : This product was created by LibreOffice, based on OpenOffice.org, which is Copyright 2000, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. Which will be a bit weird... Why not use something like NetBSD pkgsrc Team - this is more or less what the Linux distributions do. They use LibreOffice but a different vendor string, which proudly states that they did invest some effort to bring the packages to their users. Not really: pkgsrc is a framework to manage and build packages. LibreOffice is build in the same way as a regular developer would do it and the end result is a binary package, like a .deb or .rpm What I've been doing so far is: - make a list of the source code distribution files, as well as where to get them - add checksums for these files - define the dependencies needed to build and/or run LO (zip, cups, libxslt, etc...) - define the packages it may conflict with such as staroffice - specify some configuration options (disable opengl, use system libraries, etc...) - tell pkgsrc to launch the build with autogen.sh and gmake In a way, it's a machine readable specification of the build instructions available on the developers web page. Ok, this is beyond my expertise. If it was possible to include all what is neede in our build environment, so that anybody (any member of TDF) could do exactly what you do - I'd agree, you use The Document Foundation vendor string. This would of likely mean some work (integrating your modifications upstream, testing it, maybe making it generic ...). But by doing all this you would qualify as TDF member - and this would be agin for me be an indication to use The Document Foundation vendor string. Anyway - at this point I'd like to see the input of other SC-members who have a better understanding what happens technically. regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Suggested blog about MC work and philosophy
Hi Cor, Am 23.04.2011 23:57, schrieb Cor Nouws: the next part is more about the process /merits on which members are accepted. Is it that you want to say that on the one hand not each contribution is a ground for membership and on the other hand the MC will look to all possible contributions when deciding on an application? Hmm .. not exactly. It is more my point, that we have a list of contributions that establish merit. But there are possibly more ways to contribute (we cannot even name yet) and the MC will consider those ways as well. Any better words for that? And this can be done in various ways. Our bylaws list some ways to contribute, but this list is not totally fixed. The Membership Committee will also value other ways to contribute (we envision that there are many other ways that we even did not think of yet). So - everyone is welcome to contribute and the official membership is our way to acknowledge these contributions. Regards, Cor -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[steering-discuss] Draft for membership process announcement
Hi, overdue, but we are now able to start really soon. To kick of the membership process I wrote some brief message (hope it's well enough to be a start). please review and comment. @Florian / Christian: I guess, the form is already accessible for eveyone but not yet linked from the TDF website? Can you coordinat, that this will be linked, when we send the annuncement? thanks and regards, André To be sent to annou...@documentfoundation.org libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org l...@libreoffice.org webs...@libreoffice.org documentat...@libreoffice.org market...@libreoffice.org des...@libreoffice.org + blogged at the official TDF blog Subject: The Document Foundation is open for members With the last months the community around LibreOffice and the Document Foundation worked hard to establish policies, processes, infrastructure and all the things you need to deliver a high quality software. One of our basic principles is that we will acknowledge this merit and allow all the contributors to become official members of our community. All members will have the right to run for a seat in the Foundation's board of directors, elect the board and drive the future of our projects. From now on all of you can apply for membership via our webform [1] . The membership committee is eager to receive your applications. Please help us to process your request quickly. Read and follow the form's introduction carefully, provide a good description of your contributions and list at least two contacts who can confirm your contributions. The TDF Membership Committee, Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André Schnabel, Cor Nouws Links: application form: http://www.documentfoundation.org/application-for-tdf-community-membership/ community bylaws: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws more about the Membership Committee: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] Draft for membership process announcement
Hi, ok, I'll send it to the lists in ~1hr ... can someone please post it to the TDF blog (or send me quick instructions how to post there - I somehow lost it). regards, André Am 18.04.2011 19:13, schrieb André Schnabel: To be sent to annou...@documentfoundation.org libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org l...@libreoffice.org webs...@libreoffice.org documentat...@libreoffice.org market...@libreoffice.org des...@libreoffice.org + blogged at the official TDF blog Subject: The Document Foundation is open for members With the last months the community around LibreOffice and the Document Foundation worked hard to establish policies, processes, infrastructure and all the things you need to deliver a high quality software. One of our basic principles is that we will acknowledge this merit and allow all the contributors to become official members of our community. All members will have the right to run for a seat in the Foundation's board of directors, elect the board and drive the future of our projects. From now on all of you can apply for membership via our webform [1] . The membership committee is eager to receive your applications. Please help us to process your request quickly. Read and follow the form's introduction carefully, provide a good description of your contributions and list at least two contacts who can confirm your contributions. The TDF Membership Committee, Sophie Gautier, Fridrich Strba, André Schnabel, Cor Nouws Links: application form: http://www.documentfoundation.org/application-for-tdf-community-membership/ community bylaws: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/CommunityBylaws more about the Membership Committee: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Membership_Committee -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [steering-discuss] libreoffice.org e-mail accounts
Hi, Am 14.01.2011 09:11, schrieb Florian Effenberger: However, as we had lots of irritating issues with @openoffice.org e-mail addresses, I would like to avoid these mistakes. Well, the real problem at OOo with such adresses was, that anybody could register at the website and then could use an @ooo mail address. So *anybody* could claim to have some connection to OOo. It's evident that @documentfoundation.org accounts are only for those who work for/with TDF and are eligible to represent them in certain aspects, like the SC or administrators. For LibreOffice, I'm a bit hesitant to hand out @libreoffice.org, as this may seem like people are acting on behalf of TDF, causing liability issues. Maybe I'm too touchy, so I'm happy for comments, which is why I am writing this mail. :-) I don't see, that we will run into the same troubles as OOo. We have a defined membership process, people can only become members, if they did some work to further our projects and will continue to do so. So becoming a TDF member is a privilege, that needs to be earned. Why should we not show, that we welcome our members by giving a libreoffice.org mail address? Besides the already mentioned fact, that longer domain names are ugly, I'd like to keep it stupid simple: - TDF representatives (SC, ESC, BoD, MC ...) get documentfoundation.org mail aliasses - approved members get libreoffice.org mail aliasses regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to steering-discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/steering-discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] Discussing basic QA processes
Hi, I just realized, that Thorsten initiated a quite similar discussion at the developer list today: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2010-November/002441.html so it might be good to join this discussion. regards, André Am 11.11.2010 19:31, schrieb André Schnabel: Hi, Am 11.11.2010 18:34, schrieb Rainer Bielefeld: I can take the same role as I used to do at OOo. So if anybody is willing to help with this (establishing and later work within these processes). we might build a small team and then discuss the issue. May be we open some Task-Issues at FreeDesktop Bugzilla how to improve the system? I am pretty sure that that will work if interested people (with permissions for (FreeDesktop Bugzilla) will watch that Issues. I will think about this issue and Initiate such Bugzilla improvement process during following weekend. This would be great. I'm away at saturday and available from Sunday late afternoon on I'd guess, but I hope, I can help somehow as well. I know, that Sophie and thorsten might be interested in this topic as well (and I really hope, others would join). thanks and regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LibO document format: strict ODF or extended ODF?
Hi, Am 31.10.2010 11:40, schrieb Gianluca Turconi: my question is rather simple: will LibO use in the future versions (post 3.3) a ODF strict format or an extended one? We are going to do the same as OOo did. Default would be ODF 1.2 extendend (to allow e.g. comments in Impress, additional slide transitions, more border styles ...) but ODF 1.2 (strict) by be enabled in the Options dialogue. Extendend features will the either be not available or converted to match de strict standard. At the same time people here will work with ODF to make those extended features part of the next ODF standard (an befor this can happen, you need an implementation of the new features anyway ;) ). Regards, André -- Unsubscribe instructions: Email to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines: http://netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] How to define Membership within TDF?
Hi, Am 19.10.2010 20:10, schrieb Marc Paré: Hierarchy: We need to talk about Hirachy for sure but ... The Document Foundation is the umbrella group where all projects answer to it. Presently, under this umbrella, there is only 1 project: LibreOffice. There is however, the potential for further project development that could be added later under TDF umbrella. The LibreOffice project is a project under the TDF umbrella and will provide 2-3 representatives (either by meritocracy or community vote) who sit on the SC in an advisory capacity. This clearly defines the membership of the LibO project. this just moves the problem from defining a TDF-member to the problem of defining a LibO-project-member. regards, André -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] Meeting minutes at the wiki
Hi, Am 18.10.2010 19:13, schrieb Marc Paré: as the planet is actually in place - you suggest to blog the minutes in parallel? .. well .. I think, we can do this. Are you thinking of posting to different sites? No minutes should stay at the wiki, but we can announce the availabity through several ressources. I would prefer if the minutes were posted only on one site. People will get used to going to that particular site. I also would prefer to see it on the planet. It just seems like the most logical place. Yes - sounds logical. But I feel we would need some kind of secretary post all this stuff and keep people informed (I know, Michael Meeks will hate me for this :) ). Anyway - I'll look, if we can/should have a Steering Committee blog for all SC members (would be confusing, if SC-minutes are posted at different blogs, even if they are all visible at the palanet - imho). André -- E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org for instructions on how to unsubscribe List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] Steering Committee Info at the wiki
Hi, Am 13.10.2010 17:31, schrieb Benjamin Horst: I have found that you can hack most any tool to work, more or less, but you'll be more efficient and effective if you plan it out better first! :) Oh - u fully agree on this, but .. When trying to attract new community members, any little impediment can affect their willingness to join and participate. And regular, tiny frustrations can sometimes tire out even the most stalwart contributors. Frustration often comes from being faced with to many restrictions. ;) So - we need somehow both. Regards, André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] [SC] Steering Committee Info at the wiki
Hi, Am 13.10.2010 18:32, schrieb Peter Tholstrup: As I'm brand new here (merit-score = zero :), I apologize if the following is either misunderstood or not relevant: The way I see it, formally approved documents are static, and once approved should not be edited by anybody - Steering Committee members or not. Correct. Therefore I do not think it is appropriate from a governance perspective to have direct and potentially ambiguous 'copies' of formal documents as wiki pages. Could it be worth considering that significant formal documents like the manifesto would have their own wiki pages with a backround/brief description, maybe even extracts, and then a link to the 'real' document in a non-editable format (pdf or whatever will make it most easily accessible)? This is what actually happened - we have the manifesto as pdf at our website. In fact formal approved documents should go to the tdf website, not to the wiki. For today it was just easier for me to access the wiki. Another wiki page could then be a Steering Committee 'log' page, which gives a quick overview of the continuous work of the committee with links to more in-depth wiki pages as well as formal documents... Absolutely agree (but formal documents should not stay forever at the wiki and rather be moved to the website). This was just the first start. We need to have minutes, some backround info on SC ... at the wiki. regards, André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Question on Libo apps names
Hi, Am 10.10.2010 09:51, schrieb Valter Mura: Hi All, maybe it is a stupid question or someone already raised it. Will the names of the single apps inside LibreOffice be the same? Why should we change the names? No -there are currently no plans to do so. André -- To unsubscribe, e-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] QA Infrastructure
Hi Thorsten, * Am 07.10.2010 10:25, schrieb Thorsten Behrens: I'd prefer if we do the 3.3 release in a somewhat lightweight fashion, and add tools as we go (and decide that we need them) - I know that the OpenOffice.org QA project has things like QATrack, QUASTe, and TCM - but I wonder which of those pass the test of we really need it, and it's worth the effort to duplicate it/set it up. What do you think? I think, we are quite good prepared for the start. What is missing are some tools to collect if someone did test something at all. We might use Wiki or mailinglist for this. For all the tools (I'd say, we need something like TCM, QUASTE to collect automated tests results and maybe QATrack), we should make sure that we keep them simple so that many people are able to work with the tools (there are many low hanging fruits for testers we should not make it complicated). That said - tehre is unfortunately nothing ready to use afaik. André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [tdf-discuss] [WEB] interim structuring - a proposal
Hi, Am 03.10.2010 00:21, schrieb Dr. Bernhard Dippold: There are some threads about bugs here on the list, and as long as there is no bugzilla enabled with an easy frontend, I think we'll see more of them here. Oh, Bugzilla *is* enabled: https://bugs.freedesktop.org Product: LibreOffice André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] [Legalese] Foundation or Group?
Hi Drew, Doug, Am 02.10.2010 06:32, schrieb Drew Jensen: Agreed - and to put it simply, then let's start the process of starting such an organization. You are welcome, and I think, there is real need for an organization in US. But (just advice from someone who is co-founder of two such organizations) - find the people to support your idea first. So look for community, talk with the people, get an idea how all of you want the ngo to be established and then simply do ;) André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
Re: [tdf-discuss] User participation - bugtracking
Hi, Am 02.10.2010 22:07, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier: I heavily support this idea. I also saw different bugtracking systems. None of them can serve users, because all are developer tools to manage bugs and enhancement requests in a effective way. Thus each of them has to represent the complexity of that task. There always will be needed human filtering to avoid messed up bugtracking systems and developers. No problem with an enthusiastic Community ;o)). So I read this correctly and you volunteer as bug-filter? :) regards, André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
[tdf-discuss] Looking for OHLO-manager
Hi, Cédric did kindly set up LibreOffice enlistments at ohloh yesterday: https://www.ohloh.net/p/libreoffice Curretly I registered as manager just to block other people from taking it over. But I'd be happy if someone would join me as manger who has more insight on the repositories. btw: I'd be happy for registered users and contributors telling who they are as well ;) regards, André -- To unsubscribe, send an empty e-mail to discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org All messages you send to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted. List archives are available at http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/
