Re: [IxDA Discuss] Complementary skillsets?

2009-08-22 Thread Francis Norton
Thank you Adrian - I've been assuming I'll get an opportunity to do
some IxD at work, but if I can't work out how to get it as a result
of me completing this course with an adequate grade then I seriously
need a Plan B. And, as you point out, I should be pushing ahead with
some IxD project or another regardless.

Of course this doesn't necessarily preclude pursuing my other
interests, and it's interesting that the executable prototypes and
narrative options seem to be mentioned most, on and off the list.

I almost didn't mention narrative, so I'm learning something
unexpected here. Thanks, everyone.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye-Tracker software/hardware recommendations

2009-08-22 Thread guy
I need to brush up on my 'dealing with phobics' skills. A lot of the
positions against eye tracking are unreasonable. There is a clear
correlation between what people look at and what they comprehend. Why
would anybody deny it? I've never been very good at reading things
I've not looked at!

At the last eye tracking conference in Frankfurt we discussed the
issues with what poor research was doing to the reputation of the eye
tracking industry. I didn't realise that Mr Spool had played a part
in that over the last 15 years. 

   


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye-Tracker software/hardware recommendations

2009-08-22 Thread Christian Crumlish
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 7:28 PM, g...@simpleusability.com wrote:

 I need to brush up on my 'dealing with phobics' skills. A lot of the
 positions against eye tracking are unreasonable. There is a clear
 correlation between what people look at and what they comprehend.


A 1:1 correlation? What sort of correlation? I'm not sure I've heard anyone
on this thread deny that comprehension is related to seeing which is related
to gazing, but the devil is in the details, no?



 Why
 would anybody deny it? I've never been very good at reading things
 I've not looked at!


This sounds like a straw-man argument to me.


At the last eye tracking conference in Frankfurt we discussed the
 issues with what poor research was doing to the reputation of the eye
 tracking industry. I didn't realise that Mr Spool had played a part
 in that over the last 15 years.


I'm sort of amazed there are eyetracking conferences and an eyetracking
industry. Is there a cardsorting industry?
-x-

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye-Tracker software/hardware recommendations

2009-08-22 Thread Jared Spool


On Aug 22, 2009, at 2:28 AM, g...@simpleusability.com wrote:


There is a clear
correlation between what people look at and what they comprehend.


No. No there isn't. If there's a correlation, it's definitive unclear.

Please, clear it up for all of us.


At the last eye tracking conference in Frankfurt we discussed the
issues with what poor research was doing to the reputation of the eye
tracking industry.


Produce the good research Guy. I'd love to see it.

Jared


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye-Tracker software/hardware recommendations

2009-08-22 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel


On Aug 21, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Nick Gould wrote:
Seems that, given your professional impermeability relating to this  
issue, you could just leave well enough alone; give your opinion  
when asked but otherwise respect the right of others to run their  
businesses as they see fit. Anyway...


Nick, I don't have a problem with someone running their business as  
they see fit as long as it doesn't impact the field I work in. And  
herein lies the crux of the problem with your statement.


You see, as a designer and UX professional, I'm part consultant and  
part educator to my clients and this field. As a consultant, my role  
is to provide services to my client that have a measurable impact on  
their business. As an educator, my duty is to educate them ethically  
about what our field provides.


Why is honesty, integrity, and ethics so hard to come by? Perhaps the  
shiny color of that gold coin is more inviting that the value of doing  
real and meaningful work.


I take pride in my field, my work, the service this field can provide  
to the world, what we can contribute, and the legacy we can leave  
behind. This is why I personally take issue with things like this.  
Eyetracking doesn't really provide any value other than to show some  
fancy visualization heat maps on screen. That's all it does.


Yeah, it's impressive to see those heat maps. I love looking at them.  
But that's the only true value—visual aesthetics. It doesn't really  
tell you anything about why anyone does anything. Making that  
inference is a HUGE unsubstantiated leap. The claims I typically see  
made through ET in my view are unethical and unsupportable.


Instead of trying to find a solution that ET solves, which to date and  
in 15 years in this field, I've not seen one, we should be focusing  
our efforts on existing research methods, or developing new ones, that  
actually do provide value, provide quality data, and from which we can  
make reliable inferences with integrity.


When I've pressed ET advocates on the reliability of the data they  
produce and the reliability of the inferences they're making based  
solely on ET data, they buckle like a house of cards. Call a spade a  
spade. It's about as scientifically valid as snake oil.



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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Eye-Tracker software/hardware recommendations

2009-08-22 Thread Todd Zaki Warfel


On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Guy wrote:

At the last eye tracking conference in Frankfurt we discussed the  
issues with what poor research was doing to the reputation of the  
eye tracking industry.


Perhaps you should've been discussing the harm that eye tracking does  
to real research.


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designers, Build your iPhone Apps with Corona

2009-08-22 Thread Jim Drew


On Aug 21, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Brandon E. B. Ward wrote:


@Maurice re:

You had me up until I came to the form.
Way too long and way too much *required information.
Too bad.

Really? So you'd be willing to learn a new language (Lua), API,  
methodology etc., but if a form has a few too many fields for your  
liking, you bail on the whole shebang?


On the surface, yes this seems odd.  But there are two mindsets  
involved here: there's the I want to explore, find something new  
mindset which will rise to the challenge of the new language, etc.,  
and there's the what's the hook, what will it cost me mindset which  
balks at the upfront overhead and the concerns about privacy and such.


The latter is a stopper mindset, and those will slam on the brakes  
with more power than the explore one will press on the gas.




I'm curious, because if there are a ton of users like you, whom when  
presented w/ the keys to the kingdom as it were would nay-say it and  
give up because a form had 5 too many fields in it, then I'm just...  
wow. I don't know what to say. To me, that's like meeting someone  
for the first time, and after a few minutes saying Excuse me, I'm  
sorry, but you just talk a little too much - I don't have time for  
people like you. Goodbye. and walking away. It's like Moses and the  
serpent. Look and live! Yet they would not look, because the form  
was too long.


Completing the sale has always been one of the big challenges.  The  
more reasons or opportunities you give people to bow out, the more  
will.  If you're getting feedback that a sign-up form is onerous,  
don't get defensive (because that will prove to people that they were  
*right* to opt-out).  Look at why people are saying such stuff and how  
to make it better.


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