Re: [IxDA Discuss] Getting familiar witih Adobe AIR
*Holds hand up* Flex / AIR dev here. What's your actual requirements? AIR is much better suited to desktop style applications than web replacement applications. If you are looking to replace a current web portal site, Flex targeting the Flash Player runtime (rather than the AIR runtime), will probably be the more sensible choice. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of cristine baumgarten Sent: 03 December 2009 10:07 To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Getting familiar witih Adobe AIR I have about a week to figure out if Adobe AIR is a potential tool for a new web portal I'm developing. I'm hoping it is, I'm looking forward to using it. For those of you who are familiar with it, do you think the best way to get to know it is to set it up (I have no project funding yet but I could do this at home), to read some of the bibles or are there any good urls you know of? Being that I don't have a lot of time to figure it out and then sell it, I'm looking for a good overview type understanding but one with some depth. I've already looked at some of the books and the Adobe site but I'm still not sure if it's really going to work for us. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Techniques for multi-platform user experience
And sadly, this ability is probably going to get the BBC canned once the Tories come into power. News International has persuaded the Tories that this sort of experience is damaging to traditional media interests. /politics On topic, the BBC is the best example of this sort of joined up thinking across media. Their news portal (it's not really a site is it) works just as well alongside the iPlayer, and the red button support on Digital TV links into the same well of content. They excel at presenting the information they have in every format available. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Chris Collingridge Sent: 03 November 2009 07:42 To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Techniques for multi-platform user experience The organisation that leaps out at me in this regard - and one you're no doubt aware of if you're in London - is the BBC. Over the past few years the BBC have taken lots of steps to provide a joined up experience between TV, Radio, PC/standard web, and mobile - on a whole host of different levels. The iPlayer (on-demand TV) on both PC and on mobile is a great example of this - showing content from the TV and radio, promoted on both platforms, distinct (but still BBC-y) website and associated TV app, mobile-targetted app that takes into account screen resolution connection speed etc.. Indeed, if you had told me 5 years ago that I would actually watch a TV programme on my phone, I would have laughed you out of town. But now I do - if it happens to suit (even in my own house). They do still have some work to do (their website detects you're on a phone, but obviously not very reliably: I get a cut-down version of the site which I neither want nor need), and they clearly have resources that most people don't, but I think they're a great example . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=47086 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Contextual Apps
Anyone developing thoughts on Adobe's contextual apps direction? They are pushing the write once run anywhere philosophy for applications which can move seamlessly between Desktop to Mobile to TV. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/context_apps/ Is this really the future? I've yet to be convinced that I can design an application that will effectively work on a mobile device alongside a much larger screen display of a desktop (and does TV fit in between these, or off to the side?). The white paper is of particular interest in what it suggests. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/pdfs/afp_design_guidelines.pdf Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk blocked::http://www.inps.co.uk/ The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] DISCUSS: Electronic medical records: bad, ugly, and dangerous?
Required fields and poor UI design are certainly responsible for some of this, but the biggest culprit is simply having to input data into a machine rather than scribble on a piece of paper (or, in a pinch, a bedsheet, the clinician's arm, or the wall for later transcription.) You've actually hit upon the biggest problem with paper records, and one of the biggest reasons EHRs are useful (at a more abstracted level than the clinician). A scribble on a piece of paper, bedsheet or wall isn't a record. The piece of paper can be lost, the handwriting mis-interpreted (is that 30 or 50 mg? A pretty important question when dealing with prescribing!), and there is no effective record of who made what decision when (vital for finding out what went wrong when things do). I agree that a hard to use system takes clinicians away from their secondary task, dealing with patients face-to-face (I put their primary task as actually making them better), and nobody likes paper work, but this is the task for designers, creating a system that is not only accurate and safe, but also removes a lot of burden from the user. Transcription is useful when it comes to sending letters as these are frequently not time-essential tasks, it is not useful where a delay in getting data into the system may result in insufficient, or incorrect care being given. If I can be slightly snarky at the US system for a moment (and given the recent attacks on the NHS from the US, I feel I am justified), it feels like the system for care in the US is completely driven by money. Insurance costs, billing systems, etc seem to take pre-eminence over the actual care the patient receives. Until that sea shift is made, I cannot see EHR systems in the US being any more than advanced billing systems with some healthcare tagged on. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] FW: DISCUSS: Electronic medical records: bad, ugly, and dangerous?
I agree that EHRs are necessary for all the reasons you delineate, but they also represent a pretty big step backward in terms of doctor-patient interaction in the Emergency Dept. Totally accepted. My particular PoV is of that of a GP rather than the emergency dept, and I agree that they have differing needs. Reporting is less of an immediate need, and a well written and maintained paper record almost certainly outperforms electronic records in that setting. Other care settings however, the reverse is probably true, where reporting is more important, and correctly coded records are an important part of continuing care. Marrying up that dichotomy? I've not good a good answer. Give me a wodge of cash and a length of time and I'll do my best though ;) Edit : At some point I'll remember to hit reply all... Sorry Adam! Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] DISCUSS: Electronic medical records: bad, ugly, and dangerous?
Vested interest time (full disclosure, I'm a developer currently working on EHR's for the British NHS). Design is one of the biggest factors involved with writing systems for GPs and hospitals. Systems need to allow input and retrieval of data quickly, securely, and safely. The average GP in the UK has roughly 7.5 minutes with a patient, so the process of running through a session needs to be snappy above all things. Selecting and retrieving a patient (the correct patient), allowing access to their up-to-date demographic and clinical information, and then recording any data entry in a consistent coded fashion. UI design is driven by a collaboration between designers and GPs. Designers come up with the UI and GPs derive any clinical safety issues. The UK has a slight additional complication thanks the MS CUI (http://www.mscui.net/) project. It's am interesting space to work in, as there are three competing elements which at times have contradictory needs (the NHS, GPs, and patients themselves). Unfortunately only one of those elements are paying for the work. Now just to clear up some of the mis-conceptions in the article. EHRs are MORE secure than paper records. Yes they can be hacked, but paper records are stored in less than secure areas of surgery's (the drugs are better protected), usually meaning one broken window is all it takes. One of the huge benefits of EHRs are the ability to interop, collaborate, and report on a much wider basis. Without a huge effort, a surgery would be unable to determine how many patients they had in a particular age bracket suffering from a particular condition, they wouldn't be able to easily share this data (EHRs make out-of-hours service much safer for patients as they have fuller and more up-to-date information than the patient can usually supply), and they certainly couldn't be able to tailor wider initiatives to cater to the group (swine flu vaccinations to vulnerable groups anyone?) Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Setting up a UX conference in Lisbon - needadvice and ideas
On a personal note, I've combined Lisbon and a conference before, neuroscience conference as it happened, and it was fantastic. There was more than enough to keep my wife happy while I was at the conference (she's definitely the more cultured of the two of us), and the city itself is amazing! The only two things I'd offer from my experience is, don't walk anywhere: everything is uphill (both ways) and the cobbles are very slick making it a bit of a slide rather than saunter, and don't (for the love of $deity) drive: not unless you have nerves of steel, and know where your horn is! Only city I've been to that can have a full blown traffic jam with 4 cars, and communication is mainly done using car horns... at 3 AM... Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Netbooks lead the way on how we%u2019ll be usingour mobile phones in the near future
There is an interesting interaction problem here. If I carry different devices depending on what I'm doing on a given day, how do easily I tell the carrier which device I want to receive calls on? http://googlevoiceblog.blogspot.com/ Looks like Google is trying to sort that problem by being device independent. Depends on which app is on at the time I suppose. I know if I have my skype on at home and work simultaneously, both will ring when someone calls me, so presumably you could imagine the old multiple phones on a single line where all the phones in the house ring when the land line number is called. All your devices potentially ring, you just choose which one to pick up. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] City experience
That's a very intriguing set of questions there! No experience but my curiosity is piqued! How could you re-design a road (or pavement) from a UX perspective... Fantastic question for an interview! Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Rob Epstein Sent: 21 July 2009 11:29 To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] City experience Has anyone provided UX / usability services to a city or local council, regarding: - Road / sidewalk design and maintenance - Road signs - locations, standards, maintenance - Navigation signs - to local sites, main roads, points of interest - Traffic calming - Pedestrian crossings - Shared spaces - and in general, how to make cities more walkable, safe, and a great place to live. I'd like to hear your experiences, war stories, and how you convinced the city that they needed you (or did they get it from the start?) Thanks, Rob ___ Rob Epstein UX consultant Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] FW: Looking for data to refute crazy client
Having been a student... and more recently worked in a university, I know where what sounds like a crazy requirement is coming from. As far as the university department is concerned, the user doesn't exist at all, on their system until an admin user creates them (using the year / class roll). No email, no system access, nothing. Now, how do you get the generated email from the system to the student so they can log in and the change the generated password. You print out all the users and passwords and hand them out during the first lab. (Not a joke, this is exactly how Stirling University does it). Security is usually handled by showing of matric card to the supervisor to get the correct bit of paper. Anyone who knows undergrads is fully aware that this is the only system which can work with any degree of success... It goes against many principles, but is pragmatically sound. [Edit : And maybe one day I'll remember to hit reply all! Sorry Nils] Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk .org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location andlanguages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)
ONLY using IP is dangerous. Was the point I was (badly) making. No matter how many times I tell the internet that I'm not in France it still gives me French pages! /stupid user I agree that doing as much for the user as possible is the best technique, but it is important to realise the edge cases involved. Frequent travellers, corporate firewalls, immigrants less accustomed to their adopted tongue. The edge cases start mounting up. Company's sites do not exist in a vacuum. While they stand alone in their own right, they are part of a wider universe of sites a user may visit. Telling each one as you visit them that you aren't who they think you are is a frustrating experience. The way I would prefer to suggest, is for the site to use the language that the user has already set up on the machine they are using. It is set once, and then every site they visit uses that setting, making it much easier and nicer for the user. (Technically, Flash sites can use the Capability class to find the language of the machine the swf is running on. I cannot speak for HTML only sites.) Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Best practices for Country location and languages on Global Websites (was Language Picker)
A few questions... Should sites auto detect IP addresses and serve default settings according to country, language? I would say no, if only based on personal experience. Our corporate connection goes through our headquarters in France. Google in particular seems to be determined to direct me to the French version of all its pages, which is extremely annoying. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Command line vs. menu driven interface
Of course if you go too far you end up with this http://vimperator.org/trac/wiki/Vimperator Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Dante Murphy Sent: 24 March 2009 15:00 To: David Little; disc...@ixda.org Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Command line vs. menu driven interface Ubiquity is fabulous, and abundantly simple. All of the commands I use are denotative terms for the action I want to execute, like map or wikipedia. Sure, there are more complex commands, but the concept of a ubiquitous web CLI is simply brilliant. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] FW: New Ipod Shuffle
Anyone else think that removing controls from the actual device was a mistake? Just click the button and your music plays. Click twice to FFWD to the next track. Click again and stop the music. Is this not getting dangerously close to the click wheel Mac book that did the rounds on the onion a wee while ago? every possible function is only a few hundred clicks away! (or something like that) What if it is at a quiet bit of a song (bonus tracks frequently have 5+ mins of silence in them). Has it stopped? How do you know it's still playing? Is it one click, two? Did someone at Apple genuinely think the video was real? (edit : One day I'll remember to hit reply all rather than just reply... sorry Todd!) Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] FW: GUI guidelines
You might want to take a look at the MSCUI project http://www.mscui.net/ The guidelines they are producing are part of the British National Health Service's National Program for IT (yes, the capitals mean it is generally better known as NHS NPfIT) If I can have a little dig... It is very much UK based, so the intention is to improve Patient Care, rather than to improve Patient Billing as in US health care, so if you are aiming at a US market, it may not be for you. [Just realised I only sent this to Andreia, so sending it to the rest of the list for completeness ;) ] Gk. Hi, I work in a software company for health solutions. My team has about 20 members and my new big task is to write the guI guidelines. Can you help me with some references that could point me, at least a way to start? Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Right-Click Actions in Web Applications (Enterprise)
Well, we are creating the next version of a widely used piece of desktop software, so the users who will be migrating across to it will expect the same right click interactions they had in the desktop version. I do not think this is an isolated experience for people who are used to desktop applications, and I do not believe the method of delivery, via the browser, should change that experience. Gk. (At some point, I'll remember that hitting reply only sends it to the poster, not the whole list! Sorry Michael!) Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] FW: Drawbacks of using Flex for data processingapplication?
(Edit : This is a re-post as my original didn't pass moderation. Providing context is a crime it seems) Just to defend Flex for a moment (again another Flex developer here). 1. It is free, it is just the Adobe IDE that costs money. You can download the SDK for free and start working. 2. Flex is more like a traditional programming language, so while Javascript / HTML developers may struggle to get their heads round it (traditional web developers), hand it to a Java developer and they'll be banging the work out in no time. 3. You get a lot out of the box with Flex when it comes to both data handling and UI. Check out the iLog components and the Degrafa libraries for examples of excellent work. 4. When you say data processing, do you mean data visualisation? Flex is a client side technology, so your heavy lifting is best left on the server. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] FW: Drawbacks of using Flex for data processingapplication?
Would you provide some URLs if you don't mind? Also I'm curious when you rate something as 'excellent work' is that your response to the code of the library or to the interactions provided by the widgets? I ask because one of the things I'm looking for in my own application is more powerful UI widgets - e.g. fisheye menus, tables-within-tables, and other things that will let me compose more sophisticated interaction flows for my apps. When I say excellent work, I mean both. Degrafa is an excellent library (code wise) which lets you skin components (including data visualisation components) in a variety of manners, including CSS. Some examples http://flashspeaksactionscript.com/5-custom-charts-using-degrafa/ http://www.insideria.com/2008/04/degrafa-data-part-2-the-sparkl.html and the library itself http://www.degrafa.org/ iLog Elixir is a paid-for library of components which can both prove as inspiration for your own components or be a solution (if you can use paid-for in your application) http://www.ilog.com/products/ilogelixir/ Flex gives you a lot of flexibility (ha ha) out of the box, and the means to quickly put together the components you need. There is a thriving community, much of whom are cross overs from the Flash component days who produce and release components, so hunting for what you need may be an option. Lastly, if you are thinking about the future, keep your eye on Flash Catalyst for changing the face of how Design and Code come together. If Adobe can deliver on the initial promise, it will be something special. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact is.helpd...@inps.co.uk Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Google by default
My question is, does anyone know if there's a term for this kind of behaviour? Habit? Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Box Sent: 01 December 2008 17:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Google by default I'm sure we've all witnessed on how common it is for a user-experience to begin at Google these days, even when the user has a known destination/item. I do it myself. For instance, say I want to look up 'Brighton' on Wikipedia, I find the most efficient method of getting there to type 'wikipedia brighton' into my browser's in-built google search. This is all based on the assumption that this will be the first result (it normally is) and therefore the quickest way for me to achieve my goal. This is certainly borne-out in the research I'm doing at the moment. In some cases, this behaviour seems so habitual that users will take this route, even when it isn't the most efficient method of reaching their goal. My question is, does anyone know if there's a term for this kind of behaviour? As an aside, it's interesting how advertising is attempting to capitalise on this. This film poster (http://bit.ly/b1p5) encourages people to google 'Mother Lay-By' rather than displaying the film's URL. What's even better is that it doesn't work! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Flash Catalyst
We've been playing with it a fair bit since we got hold of it at Max, and the only issues we've had so far is not knowing which trick is required in illustrator in order to get the right output in Catalyst. Purely just the lack of a tutorial / training material. Initial reactions however are mixed (I know this is very very pre-release!), and we couldn't honestly make a judgement until the full application comes out. I'm still really interested to see how modal dialogs are going to be represented. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Stewart Sent: 18 November 2008 21:16 To: David Malouf; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Flash Catalyst Sorry it took me a day to chime in. We didn't try to slight the Windows folks at all, we just wanted to give people something to play with at MAX and the Mac build was further along than the Windows build. When we do a public beta, which should be early next year, we'll have both Mac and Windows. If you're interested in being on the prerelease, feel free to drop me a note - [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd love to hear what you're hoping to do with Flash Catalyst. =Ryan Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
My main issue with the idea of the TC being legally binding is the assumption that the person who used the system is the same person who agreed to the Terms and Conditions, or even that they agreed to the Terms and Conditions at all! Take the recent Flash Player click-jacking fix. If a website used click-jacking to get someone to click agree on a TC dialog they never see, are they still bound by it? Bigger picture again for a website, how can you actually legally prove that someone has ever agreed to your TCs? Without some piece of user identifiable information replacing the simple click action, this is impossible. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist
As other people have given examples of games, here's one that has gone the other way. Warhammer Online required you to scroll to the bottom of the TCs and accept them whenever logging into the game. They changed this so the scrolling was not required due to user feedback that it was both annoying and confusing. Not annoying enough to remove the TCs completely though ;) Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Howard Sent: 28 October 2008 13:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Terms and Conditions with a twist Go to any Kinkos and sign into one of their self-serve computers. Their terms and conditions make you scroll to the bottom of the textbox before activating the buttons. // jeff bmclaughlin wrote: However, I am still looking for samples. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=34863 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Cuil
Given the amount of traffic, thinking, and writing time this app has consumed, especially in the places that they were aiming for (the folks on this list for example), I think they've met everything they set out to do. Though the cynic in me says those aims were mainly the next rounds of investment. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Information Architect Runs for Office
Honestly, if non-US citizens were allowed to donate, I would. The verbal Rick-roll had me laughing so hard my workmates think I'm having some sort of fit. I'd also cry tears of joy if someone like this ran in the UK. *Hint hint* Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iRise sues Axure for patent infringement
At risk of becoming the voice of reason (something I'd never naturally be accused of), this discussion is becoming much more bitter with the sides becoming entrenched in their arguments. For the sake of the myself (I can't claim to talk for the rest of the list), who enjoys the light tone and high usefulness of this forum, I'd ask for this subject either to be taken off list, or dropped entirely. I respect the fact that everyone has an opinion, and that they may not always agree with other people, but this discussion has moved away from being useful and informative and is becoming about winning. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Flex? (was: What's exciting in Adobe Thermo?)
do people use Flex for real projects? I have yet to see any web app/site that really uses Flex for an RIA.. most apps still use (and will use IMHO) web standard technologies like html, css, javascript, etc... What are people suing Flex for? intranet apps? industrial? anything? and in that light, is the Flex integration with Thermo really that big a selling point? We are using Flex for a very large project. We are involved in the British NHS's National Program for IT, creating GP systems. We are looking at tens of thousand of users (all of whom are demanding and highly opinionated) From a design perspective it's proving an interesting challenge given that the NHS is still handing out guidance on everything from navigation to specific pieces of the interface, and wondering why everyone is late delivering! Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] a.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] web app messaging
Are there any patterns or good examples of feedback/error type messaging in a web app? Here's a breakdown of the specific issues: If you've got a particularly rich client you can try something along the lines of outlook's notification system (the little window at the bottom right of your screen that appears). Essentially a floating alert box. I've got the benefit of using Flex for this, I don't know how possible it would be in HTML. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Evil Datagrids! ( was RE: Fwd: Thoughts onAlanCooper's Keynote )
There's nothing wrong with data grids per se. Tufte himself recommends the use of data tables on numerous occasions. That's why we have one in Flex. Ok, thanks for the data initial data dump guys! I'll go away, have a read, have a think, and probably inadvertently necro post this topic once I have! Just to provide a little context to my question, we are working on a system for GPs surgeries, and GPs tend to be both totally conservative and not very tech savvy, so any shiney will have to be carefully considered. Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Evil Datagrids! ( was RE: Fwd: Thoughts on Alan Cooper's Keynote )
Datagrids are the evil demonic spawn of feable minds and people of small souls!!! As a part-time UI dev on a Datagrid (and form) heavy Flex app, what exactly is it you guys find so objectionable about Datagrids? What other means would you use to display a potentially massive amount of data in a summarised way? Not being funny, just looking to learn something from folks with way more experience than myself! Gk. Gregor Kiddie Senior Developer INPS Tel: 01382 564343 Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8 3QJ Registered Number: 1788577 Registered in the UK Visit our Internet Web site at www.inps.co.uk The information in this internet email is confidential and is intended solely for the addressee. Access, copying or re-use of information in it by anyone else is not authorised. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of INPS or any of its affiliates. If you are not the intended recipient please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
