Re: [IxDA Discuss] Type ahead vs. auto fill

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

Is there a real difference between the 2 examples? In example 1 Google uses
a list with all keywords/sentences Google knows. Example 2 uses a smaller
list, but both of them are still lists. Google doesn't make words up
on-the-fly.

Auto-fill is what Julia says it is. Maybe you mean autocomplete?

But there is a difference in how you present the "Typing
ahead"-functionality:
  -  You can do it with a dropdownlistbox as in the browser searchbox (you
first have to perform an action (with your mouse) and then you can press
enter)
  -  You can do it with an auto complete (inline, you can click enter the
minute it matches your desired destination) as with what the Safari
addressbar does


Grtz Jeroen


On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Sarah Weise  wrote:

> Typically, auto fill is when you type into a open-ended search box
> (google, for example) and it automatically guesses what you want to
> say as you type.
>
> Type ahead works slightly differently.  Go to Endless.com, Click on
> "Womens", then start typing a brand into the "Brand" area in the
> left navigation to narrow your results.  This feature automatically
> pulls up the items from the pre-set list of brands that match what
> you are typing.  It's not actually filling in your words for you.
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The role of detailed footers

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

A year ago I worked on a big website here in the Netherlands. It had a menu
at the top, but the exact same one at the bottom. It was used rather well,
because its' users really used the whole page. It's not exactly the same as
the footer sitemap, but is a large navigational component.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Michael Kay  wrote:

> I have noticed a trend in websites using big detailed footers that contain
> site maps, but a lot more, like a mini-homepage. Look at the bottom of these
> two pages for example:
> http://www.americanidol.com/
> http://seekingalpha.com/article/131737-five-ways-this-bubble-may-end
>
> I understand this has something to do with SEO, but there may be more to
> it. Have others in this community investigated this novel UI on a usability
> or wayfinding basis? My first assumption is that they are mostly ignored by
> users, and not so useful down there, but I'm wondering if there's anyone who
> can shed more light on the subject.
>
>  .   .   .   michael kay
>  .   .   .   buenos aires / http://www.peep.org
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] To use a colon or not to use a colon after field labels

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

@Oleh

but also the actual data stands out more. Because often the data *is* the
> label.


I agree. With addresses and such you often don't need the labels.

Apple uses this in their Addressbook on the MAC and iPhone, but in Edit-mode
the inputfields themselves contain the labels. So in a different scenario
you may need to include labels that you previously didn't show.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Confirmation Dialog Boxes

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

Confirmation questions themselves have the problem of not really being read.
Meaning people click Yes / OK / Delete etc... and then ask themselves what
they just clicked. It becomes an automatism. I personally like the undo
option after I performed an action, like Gmail does, more. That way it's
less obtrusive. The "Save"-scenario is a little different offcourse, you can
do multiple (preemptive) things, but I can't say because I don't know what
your application does.

But I do agree with you that you should label buttons with the task they
perform / explicitly state the call to action.


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Nonie  wrote:

> I'm in the process of creating the "Delete" and "Save"
> confirmations for a web app.  In most cases, I prefer to label
> buttons according to the action being performed. But in this case, in
> order to answer the question being posed, it seems as though I should
> be using "Yes" and "No" buttons.
>
> DELETE: "Are you sure you want to permanently delete your
> selection?"
> - [Yes] = delete and return to page
> - [No] = skip deletion and return to page
>
> SAVE: "You are navigating away from the page. Would you like to save
> your changes before proceeding?"
> - [Yes] = save changes and proceed to selected page
> - [No] = won't save changes and proceed to selected page
> - [Cancel] = won't save changes and return to original page
>
> Would it make sense to replace "Yes" with "Delete" and "Save"
> respectively so that the user knows exactly what action will occur,
> even though it's not correctly answering the question?
>
> Does anyone know of any reference/s discussing proper verbiage for
> dialog boxes?
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Thinking about an "abuser" and not only a "user"

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

@Angel: what you did wasn't intentional, so good interaction design should
have 'warned' you in some way. From a Service Design point of view such
"excessive-usage"-fees should be forbidden :-)

Designing around unintentional misusage isn't the same as fighting
intentional abuse. The first can be prevented with interaction and
industrial design. The second is a lot tougher, but Interaction Design could
help there too, mostly in protecting a potential victim. On banking sites
(in the Netherlands) you have always have to input a random number when you
want to send a payment. The random number makes it harder to misuse the
system, how well it works depends on interaction, but unfortunately such
security systems must be used.



On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Angel Marquez wrote:

> Would this account for abuse:
> http://mypfblog.blogspot.com/2007/05/excess-activity-fee-at-wamu.html
>
> This was about a month ago and the web UI allowed me to deplete my account
> of over 75.00 of fees in one sitting with absolutely no destructive
> confirmation screen.
>
> The excessive fee was enforced right about when wamu was going under.
> 
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Usability of accordions

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

I don't agree with William. You shouldn't use stuff purely because it
exists, but it certainly can help increase legibility and sometimes you
simply have "a lot of crap" on your page.

@Jeff: On FAQ 
pagesan
accordion can be great because you can see all the questions, and if
you
want an answer, just click the bar and it's right beneath it. You could
think again about the auto-closing part, because it could change the height
at which the q&a pair begins and that makes it less usable.


 Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 3:19 AM, William Brall  wrote:

> I hate the design idiom. The instrument is underused, though.
>
> Accordions are jazz. They are superfluous. They are a symptom of a
> cancer that should be cut out.
>
> The cause is senseless page bloat.
>
> Focus on tracking, prediction, and reduction. And you'll see that
> the need for accordions goes away.
>
> In other words. If you are considering them, you have too much crap
> on that page.
>
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Date display formats in tables

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

>
> The table columns are sortable, so they can sort by dates. In most
> cases they will be comparing days & months. Comparing dates in
> multiple years is rarer.

Then I wouldn't begin with the year.

What I would use is a fixed width font, because padding alone isn't enough
to make it more scannable as shown below:

Nov 19 , 2010
Dec 31, 2008
Jan 01, 2009
Nov 19 , 2010
Dec 31, 2008

Jan 01 , 2009
Feb 02 , 2010
Mar 23 , 2009
Apr 11 , 2009
May 28 , 2008

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Date display formats in tables

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

Hi Rachel,

can users sort the data and which elements of the dates are the most
important? Are they comparing days, months or years, because those could be
determining issues in the design.


Best regards, Jeroen.

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Cuil

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

I tried Cuil for a search on *"nailed by nikita" + grindhouse* (*)

I didn't get a result until there was nothing more left than
*grindhouse*which is a little bit disappointing.

I think the concept's ok and I like the interface, which is very minimal,
but the results and the way to search is not quite there yet ;-)



* A colleague of mine mentioned that a friend of his made the fake movie
trailer that won Quentin Tarantino's Grindhouse DVD contest)

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] "home" links

[Jeroen Elstgeest]

>
> "Reset" notwithstanding, for many sites, the content on the home page
> is introductory, and the navigation is universal. Thus, if you're on
> an inner page, and you want to go somewhere else, there's really no
> reason to go home to do it. There are plenty of exceptions of course
> (a newspaper site comes to mind). And plenty of people go to google
> and type "amazon.com" into the search bar even though "there's no
> reason to do it".
>

Like Joseph said: "If "Aunt Tilly" is a significant user type, or actual
persona, then by all means include home in the main navigation."

I find your remark a little degrading to 'the user'. Not all of them are
internetsavvy people like us and some of them need a "reset" kind of
function. The users on our site for example type "google.com" in our Google
enhanced internet searchbox (Google logo included).

Jeroen Elstgeest

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