Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sharing files from iPad to iPad
I'm glad others are thinking about these issues as well: http://stevenf.tumblr.com/post/359224392/i-need-to-talk-to-you-about-computers-ive-been This is a great representation of my thoughts so far. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48813 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sharing files from iPad to iPad
Thanks for that link Gilles. This opens up another issue though. The article states that files are stored with their applications. Delete an app and its files are deleted as well. Also, this seems to limit the ability to open a file from any other app than the one with which it's associated. Omnigraffle announced that they're porting their apps to the iPad. That's awesome news. But in their desktop versions, I can open an Omnioutliner file in Omnigraffle. With this new model, if files are associated with applications, if I created a file in Omnioutliner on my iPad, how would Omnigraffle access it? Or if you create a simple text document with one app, but then install another text editing app, would you be able to access the document from the first app? Seems like you'd have to push it to a shared folder on the network first. These are just unknowns to me. There may very well be a simple answer out there. But app to app sharing and iPad to iPad sharing are concepts that I think people will look for. I can only hope Apple considers this as well. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48813 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
While Apple may have shown the way for the music business to stay alive, look at the price we pay. We _have_ to use iTunes to watch any video we purchase through the iTunes Store. We put up with the DRM in iTunes. Apple denied Google their VOIP app due to duplication of functionality. Will that happen with other apps on the iPad? Will they allow another mail application? Will they allow another music application? The model that the iPhone OS uses has each application use its own database to access files it creates. How will we access a text file created with one app in another editor? Will we first have to sync it with cloud storage and access the file that way from the second app? Also keep in mind that Apple once supported OpenDocument. This seems like its antithesis. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Apple Content vs. the rest of the world (was iPad.
The larger issue at hand is the way the iPad handles files in general. It seems there's no way for files to be shared from app to app without the need to connect to a network file server. Your point is fine, but it wasn't the point I was making. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48844 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Sharing files from iPad to iPad
Does anyone know how you'd share a file created from the new iWork from one iPad to another person on their iPad? Or from any other app on one iPad to another person's iPad? Or, when using iWork, what happens when you save that file and open it later. Or how you'd grab a chart off of Numbers and drop it in Keynote. Does that just use the standard copy and paste? Any out there get their hands on one to play with it yet? I'm really curious how this works. Thanks, -Neil Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
The issue I have with this line of thinking is that Apple has already opened Pandora's Box on the iPad. With iWork, people will will create content and they'll want to share that content. How do you share anything from one iPad to another? Are we just going to fall back to a cloud sharing system? You might say that this isn't a problem on the iPhone, but the iPhone is a pure consumption device. It really isn't a problem. The form factor doesn't make anyone want to create anything on it other than text messages or emails. Now with this new form factor, I think people are going to want to create more and different kinds of content than just emails or Facebook updates. As soon as that happens, they'll want to share that with everyone. They'll want to use the iPad in a way that it's unclear how to do. Something's going to give. I just don't know what. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Sharing files from iPad to iPad
Thanks for that link. It answers some questions on the direction Apple's going to take. I guess the iPad to iPad connection simply won't exist. It seems like a missed opportunity to use Bonjour to see people around you and have your own mesh network. Maybe that'll come later. I can hope. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48813 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
One thing that haven't seen anyone here yet discuss is the larger picture of the OS and app economy. While I mused about this situation, Aaron Swartz has a good write up about it: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
Weird that my last post got munged somehow... In any case, I was pointing out a post by Aaron Swartz: http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/ipad and a post on Fast Company: http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/jamais-cascio/open-future/iworry With the iPhone OS being a closed system, this could be problematic in the sense that as a device that supposedly fills in the gap between the iPhone and the Mac, it doesn't really share many capabilities of a Mac. I think people are okay having a limited ability to install applications through iTunes on an iPhone due to its form factor. With this new form factor, it's much more a general computing device and expectations might be more like a Mac - being able to do things you'd expect on a Mac. I'm certain people will try to jailbreak the iPad to get around this limitation, but that's not an optimal solution. For the iPad to truly fit that space, Apple would have to give up some control, and I don't ever see that happening. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
Good points Luke, Steve. The other thing is that the iPad is not a stand-alone product. It's still an accessory to a Mac. With only 64GB of space, you'll fill that up quickly. You still need a Mac (or PC) for the iPad to sync with. To expound on Luke's question of how does it work with an iPhone, I don't think it does. This doesn't create a triangle of iPhone, Mac, iPad. It's now a V with the Mac at the vertex. I think it would be interesting if it ran OS X and also ran iPhone apps. Then it would create triangle. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
In looking at the product shots at the bottom of http://www.apple.com/ipad/design/, I'm really wondering about the interactions of using the keyboards in the both the dock and in the case - as folded into a laptop-like configuration with virtual keyboard. With the keyboard dock, or even a bluetooth keyboard, the act of typing will be great, but then think about when you want to select some text. Now you have to use the iPhone means of copy/paste. You take your hands off the keyboard and have to touch the screen. I haven't played with one yet, but that appears to be an awkward situation. When using a keyboard, I think most people would look to using a mouse for text selection. Maybe I'll be wrong and it's not as awkward as I'm thinking. The same goes for using it with the virtual keyboard. Copy/paste on the iPhone isn't so bad since you don't really move your hands a significant distance. But now, you'll have to move your hands several inches to perform this action. Just seems to be strange in this case. Hopefully I'll have an opportunity to play with one soon and see what this is like. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPad.
Other conversations that I've been having today revolve around whether or not this could be an introduction of slow design into the computing world. Best described here: http://www.good.is/post/hurry-up-and-wait/ Could be. I too see this as more of a book or newspaper replacement than a laptop or iphone replacement. The form factor leads you to interact with it differently than either of those two. We must now come up with the content that will make this device shine. Apple's given us their tabula rasa, so to speak, and it will only be as good as the content that best makes use of its technology. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=48704 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus
Nik, Yes, site structure should be clear and logical, but at what point in the URL is the URL no longer important to users? I'd really like to do a study to find out. But my guess is that if your navigation is clear and logical, users won't care what the site structure is. I'd say the only time a URL is important to the user is if someone has copied it and sent it them via email or IM. And in that case it's important in deciding if they want to click on it or not. Do they trust the URL or not. Going back to the REI example, does it matter that the URL for Camping Hiking is http://www.rei.com/category/451; and not rei.com/campingandhiking/? I don't think so. The navigation shows that Health and Safety is a subset of Camping Hiking, but there's no /campingandhiking/healthandsafety/. Decoupling the navigation from site structure allows you an amazing amount of freedom. Yes, sometimes it is a 1:1 to structure, but it doesn't have to be. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46723 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus
Why must navigation and structure be 1:1? They are separate, yet admittedly related concepts. Users don't care about structure. They care about finding the right content. Navigation is one of those ways they do that. Don't just think about the usability of the dropdowns but also their accessibility. How would the information of the dropdowns be accessed from a screen reader for example? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46723 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mega Drop-Down Navigation menus
If you're going to use a mega drop down, take advantage of it. Take rei.com for example. Look at the first dropdown for Camping Hiking. You can click on the main nav item and be taken to a landing page. It also has 4 internal structures, Gear, Gadgets Electronics, Camp Kitchen, Health Safety. There aren't any landing pages for these groupings, they're organizational structures to help shoppers locate equipment. There is no corresponding site structure for these groupings. Items listed in these groupings don't just lead to main section pages. There are deep links included in these groups. REI shows content based on what people are looking for, not on how they organize their content. That's what good navigation does. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=46723 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Latimes.com Redesign - No Link Colors
While we all can give our collective opinions on this redesign, what I'd like to know is if they did any testing on their design before it went live. Maybe they discovered that their users didn't have any issues with no colors or underlines on links. Maybe they didn't do any testing and will now be inundated with emails. Maybe someone has contacts there and can find out? From a design standpoint, I love the graphic of the inkblot at the bottom of the footer. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=44633 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] iPhone sketching tools
For both Christian and Suzanne (for your pencil sketching mode): http://www.tuaw.com/2009/06/10/sketch-an-iphone-app-ui-with-special-stencil/ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=42705 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] CSS Wizard tools
You can see what the team at http://wufoo.com/ has done to allow for customization of forms. I like their implementation. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=38507 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Strategic Interaction Design
Like most answers here and in other places, it depends. Is this strategy for a project or a business? It depends on who is responsible for strategy in both your company and at the client's. Is it just you, someone else or a team? What's the situation on the client's side? Is it the person responsible for the RFP or someone else? Is there a C-Level behind the scenes that needs to be considered? It depends upon the relationship between you (or your company) and the client. Have you been hired as a consultancy or an agency? Is the client looking to you for answers and ideas or are you only there for execution only? Could this client lead you on to other clients? It depends upon the nature of the project. Big project or small one? Could this lead to more work with this client? Could you have more influence in a later project? It depends on what the ultimate goal of the the project is. What is the desired outcome the clients want? What are the desires and needs of the users? What is the tone of the project? --- Just a few things that could be thought about when strategy is thrown about. Cheers. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=36819 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA iPhone users straw poll
I've been traveling a bit lately, so I've been: 1. Watching TV shows and movies 2. Maps 3. Browsing online -Neil . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=31985 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Adaptive Path's Aurora ... Discuss
I think the demo was fine. But what I'd like to question is the necessity of a browser in the first place. From all the tasks that were demonstrated, the browser was acting like the OS, except for all things online. Why not just get back to the real issues at hand and think about doing away with applications and look at the tasks a user wants to perform. Who cares if it's online or on the desktop? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=31824 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
