Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Most often I use the UML State Transition Diagram for complex (non-linear) interaction. By selecting a tool, clicking on an object or dragging a bounding box, the user brings the application in a certain state. Each state has it's own options for interaction. Here an example of a diagram for 'editing objects in Visio'. http://www.ylab.nl/ref/interaction.htm#std Another one for 'ATM Usage' http://tinyurl.com/uml-std-atm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33428 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Non-linear and recursive? Sounds like a circle of pages/boxes with a central hub/access point. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33428 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Yes On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Benjamin Ho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Non-linear and recursive? Sounds like a circle of pages/boxes with a central hub/access point. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33428 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.128 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill | gtalk: wkevans4 twitter: semanticwill | skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Here is a question for you all. I am exploring ways of using task flow diagrams as a means of conveying, in an abstract manner, a recursive and interative user task flow that is not linear - meaning the user is presented with a screen/canvas where their are n number of dimensions/facets with attributes that a user can assign to some artifact(x) to generate a new custom artifact (y). How would you do it? As an example - how would you visually communicate the user interaction with the FaceYourManga flash application where you are building a custom avatar? -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.128 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill | gtalk: wkevans4 twitter: semanticwill | skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
I'd use a prototype. With a task flow, you'd need to illustrate a series of trees and loops. On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Will Evans wrote: How would you do it? Cheers! Todd Zaki Warfel President, Design Researcher Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully. -- Contact Info Voice: (215) 825-7423 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://toddwarfel.com Twitter:zakiwarfel -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Well, yeah (you are the prototype guy!) - but within the constraints of a diagram, i was wondering if anyone explored and abstract visual vocabulary for communicating recursive iteration. No prototyping allowed! :-) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'd use a prototype. With a task flow, you'd need to illustrate a series of trees and loops. On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Will Evans wrote: How would you do it? Cheers! Todd Zaki Warfel President, Design Researcher Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully. -- Contact Info Voice: (215) 825-7423 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://toddwarfel.com Twitter:zakiwarfel -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- ~ will Where you innovate, how you innovate, and what you innovate are design problems - Will Evans | User Experience Architect tel: +1.617.281.128 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: semanticwill | gtalk: wkevans4 twitter: semanticwill | skype: semanticwill - Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
An approach I've been using is sort of a bastardized version of page description diagrams explained by Dan Brown here: http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/where_the_wireframes_are_special_deliverable_3 with some elaboration here: http://www.dmxzone.com/showDetail.asp?TypeId=2NewsId=3991LinkFile=page2.htm It helped an approach where, in our case, we had a completely component based application where everything had persistent features on a module basis, but it was fully customizable on the front-end and the application functions would vary within certain parameters. It's not an abstract visual vocabulary, but I found it jumped both the hurdles of client understanding and designer understanding fairly well (I used our salespeople, project managers and graphic designers as guinea pigs) while still communicating to our engineers how things ticked. Scott On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, yeah (you are the prototype guy!) - but within the constraints of a diagram, i was wondering if anyone explored and abstract visual vocabulary for communicating recursive iteration. No prototyping allowed! :-) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'd use a prototype. With a task flow, you'd need to illustrate a series of trees and loops. On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Will Evans wrote: How would you do it? Cheers! -- * It's very important to know when you're in a pissing match. And it's very important to get out of it as quickly as possible. - Randy Pausch Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Will, If I were in this situation, I would probably be using something like a UML activity flow diagram, a collaboration diagram, or JJG's IA vocabulary. In the past, when I ran into similar problems (recursion, parallelism, multiple paths, etc.) I usually found that my confusion was based upon thinking that the page was my most granular level of detail.Once I threw that idea away and thought about activities and states, then I found diagramming the orchestration to be easier. Ultimately, of course, the question is who will be consuming these diagrams--and what works best for them. -Todd On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Scott McDaniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An approach I've been using is sort of a bastardized version of page description diagrams explained by Dan Brown here: http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/where_the_wireframes_are_special_deliverable_3 with some elaboration here: http://www.dmxzone.com/showDetail.asp?TypeId=2NewsId=3991LinkFile=page2.htm It helped an approach where, in our case, we had a completely component based application where everything had persistent features on a module basis, but it was fully customizable on the front-end and the application functions would vary within certain parameters. It's not an abstract visual vocabulary, but I found it jumped both the hurdles of client understanding and designer understanding fairly well (I used our salespeople, project managers and graphic designers as guinea pigs) while still communicating to our engineers how things ticked. Scott On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, yeah (you are the prototype guy!) - but within the constraints of a diagram, i was wondering if anyone explored and abstract visual vocabulary for communicating recursive iteration. No prototyping allowed! :-) On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I'd use a prototype. With a task flow, you'd need to illustrate a series of trees and loops. On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Will Evans wrote: How would you do it? Cheers! -- * It's very important to know when you're in a pissing match. And it's very important to get out of it as quickly as possible. - Randy Pausch Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help \ Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Communicating Design, Visualizing non-linear task flow
Earlier this year I had exactly the same problem (involving repeated browsing and posting on an interactive map) and corresponded with Dan Brown about it. The long and short of it was that I demonstrated this using clusters of 'pages' linked by a circular arrow to show 'within page' recursion. A difficult thing to describe but if you'd like to drop me a mail I can send you the specific diagrams. John. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33428 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
