Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2009-01-13 Thread John Vaughan
True enough that new technology may spawn different patterns & behaviors - 
but there's also a tremendous inertia to history:  Even something as poorly 
designed (from a usability perspective) as the QWERTY keyboard persists, 
even as we speak...


"New" designs often base their credibility on adherence to existing, 
cuddly - or at least familiar - forms



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From: "Phillip Hunter" 

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Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex



John,

I think that mobile interactions are a whole mostly new area.  While
there might be, and should be, some things borrowed from other
devices and environments, the combination of factors at play for
mobile users (broader and more temporal contexts, touchscreens,
softkeys, differing app and browser behaviors, etc.) make it really
hard to say "yes, let's use this thing from the past."  For
example, I am unsure that numeric input will be primary.  Moreover,
I'm quite sure no one really understands yet what the "standard UI
functions" for mobile are.  And certainly there will be context and
task variations of them when we think we do.

One last note.  I don't have any references at hand, but I will say
this about voicemail.  My hope is that it is changing and
drastically.  New (to the public) features such as the visual aspect
on the iPhone and transcription to email are signs of what in my
opinion is a long overdue rethinking of the voice message silo.

ph


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2009-01-08 Thread Phillip Hunter
John,

I think that mobile interactions are a whole mostly new area.  While
there might be, and should be, some things borrowed from other
devices and environments, the combination of factors at play for
mobile users (broader and more temporal contexts, touchscreens,
softkeys, differing app and browser behaviors, etc.) make it really
hard to say "yes, let's use this thing from the past."  For
example, I am unsure that numeric input will be primary.  Moreover,
I'm quite sure no one really understands yet what the "standard UI
functions" for mobile are.  And certainly there will be context and
task variations of them when we think we do.

One last note.  I don't have any references at hand, but I will say
this about voicemail.  My hope is that it is changing and
drastically.  New (to the public) features such as the visual aspect
on the iPhone and transcription to email are signs of what in my
opinion is a long overdue rethinking of the voice message silo.

ph


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2008-12-31 Thread John Vaughan

Philip

Thanks for your very thorough response.  Informative, tho a little 
disappointing in that there don't seem to be much in the way of audiotex 
"standards" - even after 30 years of regular usage.


I first entered the emerging UxP field in 1979, when "audiotex" (often 
Audix-based) systems were the primary working models for widely accessible 
interactivity.  As a graphical guy, I moved quickly into the pc-screen w/ 
full keyboard interface arena as it became the primary and dominant 
interactive platform.


My Context for the question:

Hand-held devices are what's happening.  That means that many people are now 
doing their interactive stuff using a smaller, more constrained video screen 
and entering input primarily via numeric keypad.


So I'm wondering if there aren't lessons to be learned and models to be 
emulated in the existing / conventional audiotex  systems.


As a further step, is it feasible (appropriate) to try to map some of the 
standard UI functions in any interface to numeric shortcut keys that are 
broadly understood & accepted?  Symbolic placeholder that transcends 
language barriers.


Net/Net:  It appears that - altho audiotex (often voicemail) systems remain 
pervasive across the globe - there actually aren't many UI standards to be 
mined.  But it's a thought...


If you can provide any references to those semi-standards, Philip, it would 
be appreciated.


PS

Do you think that "The 411" (for "More Info") has legs?
or "611" for "Contact Us"
or "911" for "Help"(!)




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From: "Phillip Hunter" 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex



John,

There are very old semi-standards that companies such as the
pre-breakup AT&T published that also included menu structure
guidelines.

In practice, though, these are not used widely enough to call them
standards.  In addition, your example actually mixes a voicemail-type
system references with other more general conventions.

So, a little more context would be helpful to know what you are
after.  I've designed and built many DTMF and speech systems and
many good and bad usages abound.  In general, though, for customer
service or other information systems, yes, keys 1 - 6 are used for
call reason sorts of options, 8 or * can be used for going back one
level or to the main menu, 9 can be used to end the call, and # for
variable length digit string entry termination.

In voicemail systems, while there should have been a standard based
on or inspired by the Audix system, in reality many companies have
done wonders in butchering what could be a straightforward interface.
To step into fantasyland for a moment though, for the menus, the same
options above could apply.  Once listening to a message, 1 can be
"rewind", 3 can be "fast forward", 5 can be message meta-data
(calling number, date, time), 7 can be "delete", 8 can be "reply
to", 9 can "store" the message, * can be "exit" to the menu, and
# can "skip" to the next message.  While no real standard exists,
these are similar enough to many existing systems to be quickly
learnable, IMO.

Also, though you didn't ask, 0 should always get the caller to a
person.  Or at least to something helpful if not.

Phillip


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2008-12-30 Thread Phillip Hunter
John,

There are very old semi-standards that companies such as the
pre-breakup AT&T published that also included menu structure
guidelines.

In practice, though, these are not used widely enough to call them
standards.  In addition, your example actually mixes a voicemail-type
system references with other more general conventions.  

So, a little more context would be helpful to know what you are
after.  I've designed and built many DTMF and speech systems and
many good and bad usages abound.  In general, though, for customer
service or other information systems, yes, keys 1 - 6 are used for
call reason sorts of options, 8 or * can be used for going back one
level or to the main menu, 9 can be used to end the call, and # for
variable length digit string entry termination.

In voicemail systems, while there should have been a standard based
on or inspired by the Audix system, in reality many companies have
done wonders in butchering what could be a straightforward interface.
 To step into fantasyland for a moment though, for the menus, the same
options above could apply.  Once listening to a message, 1 can be
"rewind", 3 can be "fast forward", 5 can be message meta-data
(calling number, date, time), 7 can be "delete", 8 can be "reply
to", 9 can "store" the message, * can be "exit" to the menu, and
# can "skip" to the next message.  While no real standard exists,
these are similar enough to many existing systems to be quickly
learnable, IMO.

Also, though you didn't ask, 0 should always get the caller to a
person.  Or at least to something helpful if not.

Phillip


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[IxDA Discuss] Default UI standards for phone keypads: Audiotex

2008-12-30 Thread John Vaughan
There seem to be some default UI standards in terms of "dedicated" numeric 
keypad functionality on most phone-based platforms, s.a:

"1" - Do it
"7" - Delete it
"9" - Save it
"*" - Up one level in hierarchy / Back
"#" - Confirm / Submit entry

Is there a central reference source for such conventions?  How pervasive are 
they (i.e. conformance by providers, international scene)?  Is there an 
actual industry "standard"?  etc.


Thanks


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