Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-20 Thread Anthony Hempell
In my experience you can choose to describe your idea/concept/business  
case to the VP of Marketing using the jargon that gets you props on  
the IxDA list, or you can use the marketese vocabulary they are used  
to and makes them feel warm and fuzzy.

Whatever gets the ball into the end zone, so to speak.


On 19-Feb-08, at 7:34 PM, Christine Boese wrote:

 Is it really true traditional media can't deal with this radical  
 idea of
 active creators talking back to the big media bosses, so we gotta  
 diminish
 it by calling it by the old names, by defining it completely in  
 terms of
 what we want these people to be, not what they are?


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-20 Thread W Evans
My biggest - one of them at least, axes to grind - is the use of
in-language, jargon, bad metaphors and cliches. The most annoying one,
however, is the use of sports metaphors in diction. I have seen politicians
speeches and marketing websites where a reader is subjected to paragraphs of
nothing more than bad-metaphors and cliches strong together, one after
another, signifying (in the Lacanian sense) nothing whatsoever. I don't want
to touch-base to enhance synergies while mitigating against potentialities,
knock it out of the park, hit a home run, score a touchdown while standing
shoulder to shoulder with my team mates, or create any win-win situations
that leverage my core competencies. For those so inclined - or those
incapable of expressing themselves without the use of pretentious diction,
false analogies, verbal false limbs, or glittering generalities -
definitely read the classic Orwell - Politics amd the English Language,
http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

And that is my axe to grind today :-)

On Feb 19, 2008 11:02 PM, Anthony Hempell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my experience you can choose to describe your idea/concept/business
 case to the VP of Marketing using the jargon that gets you props on
 the IxDA list, or you can use the marketese vocabulary they are used
 to and makes them feel warm and fuzzy.

 Whatever gets the ball into the end zone, so to speak.


 On 19-Feb-08, at 7:34 PM, Christine Boese wrote:
 
  Is it really true traditional media can't deal with this radical
  idea of
  active creators talking back to the big media bosses, so we gotta
  diminish
  it by calling it by the old names, by defining it completely in
  terms of
  what we want these people to be, not what they are?

 
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no matter how cool your interface,
it would be better if there were less of it.
Alan Cooper
-
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-20 Thread mark schraad
Doesn't it just make you want to shout out 'buzzword bingo'?

On Feb 20, 2008 8:44 AM, W Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My biggest - one of them at least, axes to grind - is the use of
 in-language, jargon, bad metaphors and cliches. The most annoying one,
 however, is the use of sports metaphors in diction. I have seen
 politicians
 speeches and marketing websites where a reader is subjected to paragraphs
 of
 nothing more than bad-metaphors and cliches strong together, one after
 another, signifying (in the Lacanian sense) nothing whatsoever. I don't
 want
 to touch-base to enhance synergies while mitigating against
 potentialities,
 knock it out of the park, hit a home run, score a touchdown while standing
 shoulder to shoulder with my team mates, or create any win-win situations
 that leverage my core competencies. For those so inclined - or those
 incapable of expressing themselves without the use of pretentious diction,
 false analogies, verbal false limbs, or glittering generalities -
 definitely read the classic Orwell - Politics amd the English Language,
 http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

 And that is my axe to grind today :-)

 On Feb 19, 2008 11:02 PM, Anthony Hempell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  In my experience you can choose to describe your idea/concept/business
  case to the VP of Marketing using the jargon that gets you props on
  the IxDA list, or you can use the marketese vocabulary they are used
  to and makes them feel warm and fuzzy.
 
  Whatever gets the ball into the end zone, so to speak.
 
 
  On 19-Feb-08, at 7:34 PM, Christine Boese wrote:
  
   Is it really true traditional media can't deal with this radical
   idea of
   active creators talking back to the big media bosses, so we gotta
   diminish
   it by calling it by the old names, by defining it completely in
   terms of
   what we want these people to be, not what they are?
 
  
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 it would be better if there were less of it.
 Alan Cooper
 -
 Where you innovate, how you innovate,
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 user experience architect
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Re: [IxDA Discuss] %u201CThe Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office%u201D

2008-02-19 Thread dave malouf
hmmm?  is missing. I live on backspace. ;)

but otherwise, it seems about right to me. I do do a lot of table
work in most of my word docs, but I imagine that is an industry
thing.

-- dave


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-19 Thread Marty DeAngelo
At the Adaptive Path UXi conference, they spoke almost specifically
about this - the fact that new webapps are coming out that try to give
20% of the functionality that 80% of the users will use instead of being
everything for everybody.  They used Writely as an example (which has
since been bought up by Google) to show that people usually only need a
subset of what is offered in Microsoft Word.  

The presentation made a good point that while those extra features are
interesting and even useful in some situations, many people will never
use them and have trouble finding what they DO need amidst the broad
choices offered.

I for one think that the Less is More mentality makes a lot of sense,
because the interfaces get so complicated that even veteran users get
lost going for features that would be somewhere around 26-50 on the
'most used' list.

-- Marty

 Probably unsurprisingly, these numbers appear to show some kind of
Pareto principle usage (20 % of the application commands are used in
80 % of the time). Does your experience support this?


 [1] 
 http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/02/most-frequently-used-features
 -in.html

 --
 Jens Meiert
 http://meiert.com/en/

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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-19 Thread Katie Albers
snip
I for one think that the Less is More mentality makes a lot of sense,
because the interfaces get so complicated that even veteran users get
lost going for features that would be somewhere around 26-50 on the
'most used' list.

-- Marty

Well, since I often get official communications from Microsoft in 
which the paragraphs are separated by double returns...and forms 
which don't use Word's built-in form technology...I suspect the 
feature-set long since passed the useful set.

Part of this can be laid at the doorstep of mere feature creep; but 
part if it is also a failure to define a product (both these issues 
are endemic, they're just easiest to find in MS Word). What started 
life as a word-processor has quickly gone through the stage of 
formatting tool and is striving to be a full-fledged 
document/publishing tool (which it actually does rather poorly). 
Thus, features that are necessary to one level of tool are 
incorporated into all of them and the increased levels of complexity 
often lead to failure of the tools. Issues like the occasional 
randomization of numbering, the persistence of changes in tracked 
documents and so forth result from this complexity.

All of this by way of saying: One of the critical pieces of good 
interaction design is deciding what set of interactions your 
application is going to support. Who has that responsibility will 
often not be an IxD, but it is still the job of the IxD to call 
attention to the problem.

Katie
-- 


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Re: [IxDA Discuss] The Most Frequently Used Features in Microsoft Office

2008-02-19 Thread Christine Boese
I'm as against bloatware as the next person, although feature overkill is
sort of like pornography: you know it when you see it, which means the
definition remains completely relativistic.

However... I am someone who uses the deep features of software, and usually
without reading the manual. I don't want to be pestered with them, but I
like that I can find and harness real software power when I want it.

But there's a bigger danger to warn of here, the dangers current mass media
missteps provide the warning signs for, inadvertently. Lowest common
denominator. (are you as sick of reality TV as I am?)

When we start lumping all into a mass, as in the mass of mass media, it
becomes the demographic of One, the oppressive  and tyrannical demographic
of the monolith, and excuse me whilest I run screaming from the room.

I was drawn to interactive media because it deconstructed the mass of mass
media; it dared to say one-to-many is evil and there can be something
better, something even better than niche marketing and demographic
hair-splitting on speed, something sometimes called many-to-many, but is
really about diversity and about resisting the urge to lump audiences into
undiscerning categories, even the category of audience, which necessarily
constructs those in that category as passive consumers, and not interactive
co-creators.

That's really all I have to say, except to point up the irony of a term I've
seen from time to time, a term that fills me with the overwhelming urge to
sneeze bullshit!

tangent

Consumer-Generated Content. As in, huh?! Who came up with that brilliant
term? Will it one day fall into the annals of jumbo shrimp et al?

I'm less offended by the term user-generated content, because making use
of something is doing something, an active activity. Consumer? A consumer is
one who consumes something that is made by someone else. So what the hell is
consumer-generated content except what (I suspect) is a marketing
industry's deep structure refusal to accept the idea of active participants,
CREATORS, makers, speakers with real voices, rather than the dominant
marketing desire for compliant, passive, happy with what they are spoon-fed,
consumers. (we could dig even deeper for irony here, and note the history
of tuberculous gave us a term for what happens when consumers consume
themselves... Consumption?)

Consumer-generated content, a variation of horseless carriages, the name
given to a thing by those who can't accept change except to define it in
terms of what is known and familiar in the past, the good old days, the old
time religion, when marketing was delivered to audiences assumed to be
passive and one-size-fits-all for a mass media compliant consumer who did
what he or she was told and liked it!

Is it really true traditional media can't deal with this radical idea of
active creators talking back to the big media bosses, so we gotta diminish
it by calling it by the old names, by defining it completely in terms of
what we want these people to be, not what they are?

/tangent

Chris

On Feb 19, 2008 9:18 AM, Marty DeAngelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the Adaptive Path UXi conference, they spoke almost specifically
 about this - the fact that new webapps are coming out that try to give
 20% of the functionality that 80% of the users will use instead of being
 everything for everybody.  They used Writely as an example (which has
 since been bought up by Google) to show that people usually only need a
 subset of what is offered in Microsoft Word.

 The presentation made a good point that while those extra features are
 interesting and even useful in some situations, many people will never
 use them and have trouble finding what they DO need amidst the broad
 choices offered.

 I for one think that the Less is More mentality makes a lot of sense,
 because the interfaces get so complicated that even veteran users get
 lost going for features that would be somewhere around 26-50 on the
 'most used' list.

 -- Marty

  Probably unsurprisingly, these numbers appear to show some kind of
 Pareto principle usage (20 % of the application commands are used in
 80 % of the time). Does your experience support this?
 
 
  [1]
  http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2008/02/most-frequently-used-features
  -in.html
 
  --
  Jens Meiert
  http://meiert.com/en/
 
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