Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

2012-09-18 Thread Suchith Anand
Yes, this is excellent nomination for the great contribution Venka has been 
making for FOSS4G community over many years.

Suchith

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On Behalf Of Daniel Kastl
Sent: 18 September 2012 04:17
To: solkatzaw...@osgeo.org; osgeo-discuss
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

I think there is not much more to add to what Jeff and Ravi have already said.
I also second the nominating Venkatesh Raghavan for the 2012 SolKatz Award.
Thanks to Venka there is today strong FOSS4G community in Asia (and also in 
South Osaka ;-)

Daniel

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ravi Kumar 
ravivundavall...@yahoo.commailto:ravivundavall...@yahoo.com wrote:
I second the nominating Venkatesh Raghavan for the 2012 SolKatz Award.
I  agree with Jeff. Venka is the inspiration behind FOSS GIS sweeping across 
Asia and much of the world.
I have known him from the very First FOSS GIS conference in Asia, and he 
encouraged us resulting in the
FOSS workshop in the Geological Survey of India in 2005.

He continues to physically visit most of the places where 'FOSSGIS is in 
action', and connects to young researchers
readily.

The projects he promotes are the very building blocks of our FOSS GIS 
initiative the world over.
His contributions in FOSS GIS for Geologists, like 3-D models are unique.
In short Venka is the leading light for FOSS GIS in Asia and the world.

V.Ravi Kumar
Friend /Fellow Geologist
(Charter member of OSGeo, Ex Board Member, Joint Secy OSGeo India)
*
* Development of SISGeM-An Online System for 3D Geologic 
Modelinghttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.11.9970rep=rep1type=pdf
An Online System for 3D Geologic Modeling -. Tatsuya Nemoto*, Venkatesh
Raghavan**, Shinji Masumoto*, Kiyoji Shiono*. * Department of Geosciences ...


From: Jeff McKenna 
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.commailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
To: solkatzaw...@osgeo.orgmailto:solkatzaw...@osgeo.org 
solkatzaw...@osgeo.orgmailto:solkatzaw...@osgeo.org
Cc: osgeo discuss@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 8:17 PM
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

I have the honor of nominating Venkatesh Raghavan[1] for the 2012 Sol
Katz Award.  I would classify Venka as the builder of all things
FOSS4G.  It was Venka who created the term FOSS4G back in 2004, using
it as the name of an international event in Thailand, and since then he
has promoted Free and Open Source Software for Geomatics all around the
world.

Venka has also been directly involved in OSGeo since its inception, in
fact he was on the first OSGeo Board of Directors from 2006 to 2007.  He
is still very active on the Board mailing list, and often shares his
broad experience with the OSGeo Board members.

A professor at Osaka City University in Japan, Venka constantly
encourages his students to leverage FOSS4G in all of their research.
His students and research teams have improved FOSS software with
international character support and translations for projects such as
MapServer, GRASS, and QuantumGIS.

Venka actively travels around the world promoting FOSS4G, and works
closely with various international event committees each year for such
events as GIS-IDEAS in Vietnam, FOSS4G-Japan, and FOSS4G-India.  In 2010
Venka was awarded a Guest Professorship at the China University of
Mining and Technology in Beijing for his Outstanding contribution to
Open Source Geospatial Technologies.

As you can see his FOSS4G reach is world-wide.  Many people have been
touched by his passion.  He is a boots on the ground kind of a guy,
who is a master at connecting geospatial communities.  Many of us all
around the world have grown our careers and skills through his advice.
I believe Venka would be an excellent recipient for the Sol Katz Award.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Venkatesh_Raghavan

-Jeff McKenna
OSGeo Board member/friend


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[OSGeo-Discuss] African universities on google maps

2012-09-18 Thread Barry Rowlingson
This just disturbed me:

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsworld.php?id=694668

NAIROBI, Sept 14 (BERNAMA-NNN-KBC) -- Students from more than 90
universities in 12 sub-Saharan African countries have come together
for a two-week mapping exercise to put their university campuses and
surrounding areas on Google Map.

 Are we all now shouting Why not OpenStreetMap? at our screens?
Maybe the data can be used in OSM as well, I'm not sure what TCs are
imposed on user-supplied Google Map data...

discuss.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

2012-09-18 Thread nicolas bozon
I also strongly support Venka's nomination.
As one of a the founding member of OSGeo, Venkatesh had, is and will always
share his passion for open source and FOSS4G.
Among his numerous contributions to OSGeo, he notably helped lots of asian
local chapters to be and grow, and participated to several OSGeo projects
that Jeff quoted. He also initiated open source software projects.
Venka is one of best OSGeo assets for software projects and ideas, but also
for human networking and community management.
He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.

Nick





2012/9/18 Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk

 Yes, this is excellent nomination for the great contribution Venka has
 been making for FOSS4G community over many years.

 ** **

 Suchith

 ** **

 *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
 discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Kastl
 *Sent:* 18 September 2012 04:17
 *To:* solkatzaw...@osgeo.org; osgeo-discuss
 *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

 ** **

 I think there is not much more to add to what Jeff and Ravi have already
 said.

 I also second the nominating Venkatesh Raghavan for the 2012 SolKatz Award.
 

 Thanks to Venka there is today strong FOSS4G community in Asia (and also
 in South Osaka ;-)

 ** **

 Daniel

 ** **

 On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Ravi Kumar ravivundavall...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 I second the nominating Venkatesh Raghavan for the 2012 SolKatz Award.

 I  agree with Jeff. Venka is the inspiration behind FOSS GIS sweeping
 across Asia and much of the world.

 I have known him from the very First FOSS GIS conference in Asia, and he
 encouraged us resulting in the 

 FOSS workshop in the Geological Survey of India in 2005.

 ** **

 He continues to physically visit most of the places where 'FOSSGIS is in
 action', and connects to young researchers

 readily. 

 ** **

 The projects he promotes are the very building blocks of our FOSS GIS
 initiative the world over. 

 His contributions in FOSS GIS for Geologists, like 3-D models are unique.
 

 In short Venka is the leading light for FOSS GIS in Asia and the world.***
 *

 ** **

 V.Ravi Kumar 

 Friend /Fellow Geologist

 (Charter member of OSGeo, Ex Board Member, Joint Secy OSGeo India) 

 **·  **
 **· **Development of SISGeM-An Online System
 for 3D Geologic 
 Modelinghttp://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.11.9970rep=rep1type=pdf
 

 An Online System for 3D Geologic Modeling -. Tatsuya Nemoto*, Venkatesh
 Raghavan**, Shinji Masumoto*, Kiyoji Shiono*. * Department of
 Geosciences ...

 ** **
 --

 *From:* Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com
 *To:* solkatzaw...@osgeo.org solkatzaw...@osgeo.org
 *Cc:* osgeo discuss@lists.osgeo.org
 *Sent:* Monday, September 17, 2012 8:17 PM
 *Subject:* [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan


 I have the honor of nominating Venkatesh Raghavan[1] for the 2012 Sol
 Katz Award.  I would classify Venka as the “builder” of all things
 FOSS4G.  It was Venka who created the term “FOSS4G” back in 2004, using
 it as the name of an international event in Thailand, and since then he
 has promoted Free and Open Source Software for Geomatics all around the
 world.

 Venka has also been directly involved in OSGeo since its inception, in
 fact he was on the first OSGeo Board of Directors from 2006 to 2007.  He
 is still very active on the Board mailing list, and often shares his
 broad experience with the OSGeo Board members.

 A professor at Osaka City University in Japan, Venka constantly
 encourages his students to leverage FOSS4G in all of their research.
 His students and research teams have improved FOSS software with
 international character support and translations for projects such as
 MapServer, GRASS, and QuantumGIS.

 Venka actively travels around the world promoting FOSS4G, and works
 closely with various international event committees each year for such
 events as GIS-IDEAS in Vietnam, FOSS4G-Japan, and FOSS4G-India.  In 2010
 Venka was awarded a Guest Professorship at the China University of
 Mining and Technology in Beijing for his “Outstanding contribution to
 Open Source Geospatial Technologies”.

 As you can see his FOSS4G reach is world-wide.  Many people have been
 touched by his passion.  He is a “boots on the ground” kind of a guy,
 who is a master at connecting geospatial communities.  Many of us all
 around the world have grown our careers and skills through his advice.
 I believe Venka would be an excellent recipient for the Sol Katz Award.

 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Venkatesh_Raghavan

 -Jeff McKenna
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Greenwood
I Nominate Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award. I can not
imagine where the OpenLayers project would be without Chris' energy
and enthusiasm. Chris burst onto the FOSS4G scene at the 2006
conference in Lausanne and his name was immediately synonymous with
OpenLayers.

I hope that other members of our community who are closer to the
OpenLayers project will support my nomination and provide more detail
of Chris' contributions.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source GIS and Transportation

2012-09-18 Thread T M
I am part of a Transportation GIS group and we are looking to be put together  
a webinar on using Open Source for Transportation in the United States.  Is 
anyone interested or know if anyone?
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

2012-09-18 Thread Stefano Costa
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Il 18/09/2012 13:51, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
 He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.

Regardless of the strong merits of Venkatesh (I don't know you
personally, but I do agree with others about your exceptional
contribution to the community), I wonder if it is really OK to have a
public thumbs up session for candidates rather than leave it to the
committee to decide. Especially towards other potential candidates
(there may even be others candidates already, AFAIK, since e-mails
have to be submitted to a separate, private address and not to the
discussion list).

If this sounds over-bureaucratisation of our community standards, I
apologise in advance.

Cheers,
steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award

2012-09-18 Thread Arnie Shore
I dunno who's eligible to vote here, but this lurker - who's committed
to using OSM in our F/OSS projects only because of OL's opening our
eyes to it -  strongly agrees.

AS

On 9/18/12, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com wrote:
 I Nominate Christopher Schmidt for the Sol Katz Award. I can not
 imagine where the OpenLayers project would be without Chris' energy
 and enthusiasm. Chris burst onto the FOSS4G scene at the 2006
 conference in Lausanne and his name was immediately synonymous with
 OpenLayers.

 I hope that other members of our community who are closer to the
 OpenLayers project will support my nomination and provide more detail
 of Chris' contributions.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

2012-09-18 Thread Bart van den Eijnden
Hi Stefano,

I share your concerns. This is the first year that this is happening, and it's 
not outlined at all in the request for nominations.

Best regards,
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA256
 
 Il 18/09/2012 13:51, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
 He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.
 
 Regardless of the strong merits of Venkatesh (I don't know you
 personally, but I do agree with others about your exceptional
 contribution to the community), I wonder if it is really OK to have a
 public thumbs up session for candidates rather than leave it to the
 committee to decide. Especially towards other potential candidates
 (there may even be others candidates already, AFAIK, since e-mails
 have to be submitted to a separate, private address and not to the
 discussion list).
 
 If this sounds over-bureaucratisation of our community standards, I
 apologise in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 steko
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan

2012-09-18 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Stefano, Bart, all,

I simply sent my nomination to solkatzaw...@osgeo.org and CC'd Discuss -
I did this on my own doing.  I don't have a blog, so my opinions are
posted through mailing lists, so I don't see an issue with posting my
thoughts here in public.  In fact I am very proud to post my nomination
for Venka publicly.

Although now it seems I was wrong.

-jeff



On 12-09-18 11:40 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
 Hi Stefano,
 
 I share your concerns. This is the first year that this is happening,
 and it's not outlined at all in the request for nominations.
 
 Best regards,
 Bart
 
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 On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it
 mailto:st...@iosa.it wrote:
 
 Il 18/09/2012 13:51, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
 He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.
 
 Regardless of the strong merits of Venkatesh (I don't know you
 personally, but I do agree with others about your exceptional
 contribution to the community), I wonder if it is really OK to have a
 public thumbs up session for candidates rather than leave it to the
 committee to decide. Especially towards other potential candidates
 (there may even be others candidates already, AFAIK, since e-mails
 have to be submitted to a separate, private address and not to the
 discussion list).
 
 If this sounds over-bureaucratisation of our community standards, I
 apologise in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 steko

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source GIS and Transportation

2012-09-18 Thread Arnie Shore
Interested, here, although participation will depend on several
factors, including your thoughts re appropriateness.

I'm the chief cook and bottle-washer on an Open Source
Computer-Aided-Dispatch application - see www.ticketscad.org.

While our geo engine currently is GMaps, we're moving that towards OSM
and Leaflet/OpenLayers.

AS

On 9/18/12, T M calu_...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am part of a Transportation GIS group and we are looking to be put
 together  a webinar on using Open Source for Transportation in the United
 States.  Is anyone interested or know if anyone?

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Richard Greenwood
I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.

But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
members of our community surely doesn't hurt.

Rich

On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Jeff McKenna
jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:
 Hi Stefano, Bart, all,

 I simply sent my nomination to solkatzaw...@osgeo.org and CC'd Discuss -
 I did this on my own doing.  I don't have a blog, so my opinions are
 posted through mailing lists, so I don't see an issue with posting my
 thoughts here in public.  In fact I am very proud to post my nomination
 for Venka publicly.

 Although now it seems I was wrong.

 -jeff



 On 12-09-18 11:40 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
 Hi Stefano,

 I share your concerns. This is the first year that this is happening,
 and it's not outlined at all in the request for nominations.

 Best regards,
 Bart

 --
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 On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Stefano Costa st...@iosa.it
 mailto:st...@iosa.it wrote:

 Il 18/09/2012 13:51, nicolas bozon ha scritto:
 He is the best OSGeo advocate i know so far.

 Regardless of the strong merits of Venkatesh (I don't know you
 personally, but I do agree with others about your exceptional
 contribution to the community), I wonder if it is really OK to have a
 public thumbs up session for candidates rather than leave it to the
 committee to decide. Especially towards other potential candidates
 (there may even be others candidates already, AFAIK, since e-mails
 have to be submitted to a separate, private address and not to the
 discussion list).

 If this sounds over-bureaucratisation of our community standards, I
 apologise in advance.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Bart van den Eijnden
I don't want to be a PITA, but I want to bring up another point for discussion.

Is it a good idea for people from the selection committee to be nominating? 
That kind of defeats their neutral position.

Or how does the selection committee normally come to a decision? Consensus, 
voting, something else?

Best regards,
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:

 On 12-09-18 11:53 AM, Richard Greenwood wrote:
 I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
 publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
 followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.
 
 But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
 somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
 members of our community surely doesn't hurt.
 
 
 My feelings exactly.  Thanks Rich.
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi Bart,

The process can change each year, but last year each member of the
Selection Committee ranked their top two choices, and the person with
the most first place votes won.

Selection committee members have always been allowed to nominate.

Looking back at old selection committee emails/discussions now, it seems
last year I made a mistake also (I compiled all nominations on a wiki
page - I got a strong wrist slap by all other selection committee members).


-jeff





On 12-09-18 12:05 PM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
 I don't want to be a PITA, but I want to bring up another point for
 discussion.
 
 Is it a good idea for people from the selection committee to be
 nominating? That kind of defeats their neutral position.
 
 Or how does the selection committee normally come to a decision?
 Consensus, voting, something else?
 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Fawcett, David (MPCA)
I am completely with Howard on this.  +1

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On Behalf Of Howard Butler
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:15 AM
To: Richard Greenwood
Cc: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was 
Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)


On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been 
 publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I 
 followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.
 
 But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name 
 somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working 
 members of our community surely doesn't hurt.

I disagree. The history of the award has been a cloistered deliberation of 
private nominations. The award is not a political exercise, or at least it 
hasn't been to this point, and public nominations tip things toward the 
lobbying direction. Every open source contributor wouldn't mind an award in the 
field of excellence, and every contributor deserves a pat on the back or two.

Open nominations opens up a more than few cans of worms:

- I won't say some stuff about a person in a public nomination that I would in 
a private one. First off, I don't want to embarrass them, as some people are 
embarrassed by public fawning.

- Not every activity and action needs to be billboarded. If you look at the 
list of past winners, a common trait they all share is they all have kept their 
heads down and done a lot for the community as whole without regard to 
recognition. 

- I might not want everyone to know who I'm nominating.

- Are we voting on the award? Lobbying the committee? What does a public 
nomination achieve other than to provide a (biased) public attaboy? There are 
plenty of opportunities for those that do not have to be conflated with a 
nomination process.

The award is selected by an exclusive group of individuals, and this act makes 
it an exclusive award. The Oscar or Peabody or Pulitzer of open source GIS is 
much more interesting than the People's Choice. Let's keep it that way.

Howard
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Eli Adam
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Fawcett, David (MPCA)
david.fawc...@state.mn.us wrote:
 I am completely with Howard on this.  +1

Same here, +1

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sol_Katz_Award#Process
In past years, it seemed that only the rather small selection
committee has known who did not win the Sol Katz award.  In fact, did
all nominees even know they were nominated?  (Presumably the winner
was contacted in advance to coordinate their presence at the award
ceremony and perhaps give them a slight notice to prepare something to
say.)

Eli


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 From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
 [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Howard Butler
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:15 AM
 To: Richard Greenwood
 Cc: OSGeo Discussions
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was 
 Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)


 On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
 publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
 followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.

 But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
 somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
 members of our community surely doesn't hurt.

 I disagree. The history of the award has been a cloistered deliberation of 
 private nominations. The award is not a political exercise, or at least it 
 hasn't been to this point, and public nominations tip things toward the 
 lobbying direction. Every open source contributor wouldn't mind an award in 
 the field of excellence, and every contributor deserves a pat on the back or 
 two.

 Open nominations opens up a more than few cans of worms:

 - I won't say some stuff about a person in a public nomination that I would 
 in a private one. First off, I don't want to embarrass them, as some people 
 are embarrassed by public fawning.

 - Not every activity and action needs to be billboarded. If you look at the 
 list of past winners, a common trait they all share is they all have kept 
 their heads down and done a lot for the community as whole without regard to 
 recognition.

 - I might not want everyone to know who I'm nominating.

 - Are we voting on the award? Lobbying the committee? What does a public 
 nomination achieve other than to provide a (biased) public attaboy? There are 
 plenty of opportunities for those that do not have to be conflated with a 
 nomination process.

 The award is selected by an exclusive group of individuals, and this act 
 makes it an exclusive award. The Oscar or Peabody or Pulitzer of open source 
 GIS is much more interesting than the People's Choice. Let's keep it that way.

 Howard
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Puneet Kishor
With Howard.



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On Sep 18, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Howard Butler hobu@gmail.com wrote:

 
 On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
 publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
 followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.
 
 But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
 somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
 members of our community surely doesn't hurt.
 
 I disagree. The history of the award has been a cloistered deliberation of 
 private nominations. The award is not a political exercise, or at least it 
 hasn't been to this point, and public nominations tip things toward the 
 lobbying direction. Every open source contributor wouldn't mind an award in 
 the field of excellence, and every contributor deserves a pat on the back or 
 two.
 
 Open nominations opens up a more than few cans of worms:
 
 - I won't say some stuff about a person in a public nomination that I would 
 in a private one. First off, I don't want to embarrass them, as some people 
 are embarrassed by public fawning.
 
 - Not every activity and action needs to be billboarded. If you look at the 
 list of past winners, a common trait they all share is they all have kept 
 their heads down and done a lot for the community as whole without regard to 
 recognition. 
 
 - I might not want everyone to know who I'm nominating.
 
 - Are we voting on the award? Lobbying the committee? What does a public 
 nomination achieve other than to provide a (biased) public attaboy? There are 
 plenty of opportunities for those that do not have to be conflated with a 
 nomination process.
 
 The award is selected by an exclusive group of individuals, and this act 
 makes it an exclusive award. The Oscar or Peabody or Pulitzer of open source 
 GIS is much more interesting than the People's Choice. Let's keep it that way.
 
 Howard
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Morissette
While I am all for openness in general, I share Howard's concerns in 
this specific case and think we should continue with private nominations.


Daniel


On 12-09-18 11:15 AM, Howard Butler wrote:


On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Richard Greenwood richard.greenw...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I agree that this is the first year that nominations have been
publicly discussed and it is a departure from previous years. I
followed Jeff's lead when I nominated Chris.

But hey, we're an open community, I think it's even in the name
somewhere. And spreading a little recognition around to hard working
members of our community surely doesn't hurt.


I disagree. The history of the award has been a cloistered deliberation of 
private nominations. The award is not a political exercise, or at least it 
hasn't been to this point, and public nominations tip things toward the 
lobbying direction. Every open source contributor wouldn't mind an award in the 
field of excellence, and every contributor deserves a pat on the back or two.

Open nominations opens up a more than few cans of worms:

- I won't say some stuff about a person in a public nomination that I would in 
a private one. First off, I don't want to embarrass them, as some people are 
embarrassed by public fawning.

- Not every activity and action needs to be billboarded. If you look at the 
list of past winners, a common trait they all share is they all have kept their 
heads down and done a lot for the community as whole without regard to 
recognition.

- I might not want everyone to know who I'm nominating.

- Are we voting on the award? Lobbying the committee? What does a public 
nomination achieve other than to provide a (biased) public attaboy? There are 
plenty of opportunities for those that do not have to be conflated with a 
nomination process.

The award is selected by an exclusive group of individuals, and this act makes 
it an exclusive award. The Oscar or Peabody or Pulitzer of open source GIS is 
much more interesting than the People's Choice. Let's keep it that way.

Howard
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Problem with Geos-3.2.2, Python Swig

2012-09-18 Thread Mike Toews
Hi Thomas,

Since GEOS 3.0, the Python bindings are unsupported, but the
`--enable-python` option is still exposed in case a new developer
wants to step in and support it. Try removing this option.

However, the good news is that you can use Shapely to do the same
work, as it uses the GEOS C API.

Probably the best list for GEOS questions is geos-devel
http://lists.osgeo.org/listinfo/geos-devel

-Mike

On 19 September 2012 00:57, SIEFFERT Thomas thomas.sieff...@c-s.fr wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I don't know if it's the right place but still, I have a little problem
 while the compilation process of geos (v3.2.2). Here is the error :

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /freeware/python-2.5.1/lib/python2.5/runpy.py, line 87, in
 run_module
 raise ImportError(No module named  + mod_name)
 ImportError: No module named odern
 make[2]: [geos_wrap.cxx] Erreur 255 (ignorée)
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /freeware/python-2.5.1/lib/python2.5/runpy.py, line 87, in
 run_module
 raise ImportError(No module named  + mod_name)
 ImportError: No module named odern
 make[4]: [geos_wrap.cxx] Erreur 255 (ignorée)
 Dans le fichier inclus à partir de geos_wrap.cxx:135:
 /freeware/src/Python-2.5.1/Include/Python.h:8:22: erreur: pyconfig.h : Aucun
 fichier ou répertoire de ce type
 Dans le fichier inclus à partir de
 /freeware/src/Python-2.5.1/Include/Python.h:57,
   à partir de geos_wrap.cxx:135:
 /freeware/src/Python-2.5.1/Include/pyport.h:734:2: erreur: #error LONG_BIT
 definition appears wrong for platform (bad gcc/glibc config?).
 /freeware/src/Python-2.5.1/Include/pyport.h:550: erreur: declaration of
 ?double hypot(double, double)? throws different exceptions
 /usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h:163: erreur: from previous declaration ?double
 hypot(double, double) throw ()?
 geos_wrap.cxx: In function ?int SWIG_CanCastAsInteger(double*, double,
 double)?:
 geos_wrap.cxx:2786: erreur: ?errno? was not declared in this scope
 geos_wrap.cxx:2786: erreur: ?EDOM? was not declared in this scope
 geos_wrap.cxx:2786: erreur: ?ERANGE? was not declared in this scope
 geos_wrap.cxx: In function ?PyObject* _wrap_geomFromWKB(PyObject*,
 PyObject*)?:
 geos_wrap.cxx:8247: attention : déréférencement du pointeur type-punned
 brisera les strictes d'aliases
 geos_wrap.cxx: In function ?PyObject* _wrap_geomFromHEX(PyObject*,
 PyObject*)?:
 geos_wrap.cxx:8367: attention : déréférencement du pointeur type-punned
 brisera les strictes d'aliases
 make[4]: *** [_geos_la-geos_wrap.lo] Erreur 1
 make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
 make[2]: *** [all] Erreur 2
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1
 make: *** [all-recursive] Erreur 1

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 Herewith the config.log file. If you need more information please let me
 know.

 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Andrea Aime
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Daniel Morissette dmorisse...@mapgears.com
 wrote:

 While I am all for openness in general, I share Howard's concerns in this
 specific case and think we should continue with private nominations.


Agreed (for what is worth). It would be sad if we started seeing sorts of
mass voting against
a nomination thread, mostly because it would look a lot like a political
election
(my idea of the Soul Katz Award is that OSGeo is looking for an excellence
which is
not necessarily the one of just being popular, thought of course
strong commitment
in the community has that side effect)

However... maybe someone should push the OSGeo community to send private
nominations more?
I have no idea, no raw data, but in the years I have had the impression
that the
importance of nomination period could be stressed more, thus getting more
nominations and as a result a better sampling from the community.

Just rambling here, don't take me too seriously :-p

Cheers
Andrea

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Jeff McKenna
On 12-09-18 4:34 PM, Andrea Aime wrote:
 
 However... maybe someone should push the OSGeo community to send private
 nominations more?
 I have no idea, no raw data, but in the years I have had the impression
 that the
 importance of nomination period could be stressed more, thus getting more
 nominations and as a result a better sampling from the community.
 


As usual Andrea, you read my mind.  I often find that sometimes you must
make a public mistake (and sure I have made lots) to wake up the
community (all of a sudden those lurkers post responses, it's really
like magic). So, my point is, now we should see lots and lots of
nominations sent to solkatzaw...@osgeo.org :)

-jeff



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award Nomination procedure (was Nomination for Venkatesh Raghavan)

2012-09-18 Thread Frank Warmerdam
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Andrea Aime
andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it wrote:
 However... maybe someone should push the OSGeo community to send private
 nominations more?

Andrea,

I don't have a strong position on public vs. private, but I will
note we are receiving lots of private nominations, as is
the case each year.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source GIS and Transportation (T M)

2012-09-18 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence

I'm interested in open source GIS and transportation.

Though I am on the east coast of Australia...

Kind regards,

Nick Lawrence
Senior Spatial Science Officer| Geospatial, Road Assets  Design
Engineering  Technology| Department of Transport and Main Roads
Floor 6 | Spring Hill Office Complex | 477 Boundary Street | Spring Hill Qld 4000
GPO Box 1412 | Brisbane Qld 4001
P: (07) 38342477 | F: (07) 38342998
E: nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au
W: www.tmr.qld.gov.au

discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org wrote on 19/09/2012 01:11:17 AM:

 From: Anita Graser anitagra...@gmx.at
 To: calu_...@yahoo.com
 Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
 Date: 19/09/2012 01:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source GIS and Transportation (T M)
 Sent by: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 
 Hi Tom, 
 
 I would be interested to hear what you are planning and how to 
 collaborate. I'm working in transportation research (not US but 
 Europe) and the main tools we use for spatial data analysis are 
 PostGIS and QGIS. 
 
 Regards,
 Anita
 
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 I am part of a Transportation GIS group and we are looking to be put
 together? a webinar on using Open Source for Transportation in the 
 United States.? Is anyone interested or know if anyone?
 ?
 Thanks
 Tom Mueller
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