Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] code of conduct: another real case

[Camille Acey]

I am having a hard time seeing how this is a CoC matter.
Camille

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Jeff McKenna  wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> It may be early here at FOSS4G-Seoul, but I am finding it hard to
> understand your full issue.  Can you please explain here to everyone what
> you mean by "I found that OSGeo has claimed rasdaman at some
> time in the past".  Claimed how/where/in what way?  As far as I know,
> rasdaman is an OSGeo Project in Incubation, and, having been at the OSGeo
> booth here most of this week I have spoken to many people coming to the
> booth about rasdaman.  So, pardon me if I am in the total dark here, maybe
> you could explain more to everyone, as I sense that you are upset.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-09-18 1:21 AM, Peter Baumann wrote:
>
>> Hello community,
>>
>> here is another real case that I would like to raise.
>>
>> rasdaman [0] is listed on OpenHub [1], like many of us, with owner
>> rasdaman GmbH
>> set originally. By coincidence I found that OSGeo has claimed rasdaman at
>> some
>> time in the past.
>>
>> To my total surprise, as rasdaman is in incubation since about 5 years
>> now [2],
>> and since quite some time OSGeo refuses graduation requiring this and
>> that extra
>> documentation.
>>
>> I find this undercover misappropriation a gross violation of professional
>> ethics
>> and request to immediately "give back" the project as a remedial action.
>> I could
>> do it myself, but recently OpenHub requires a phone number to be entered
>> to
>> which, as blog comments show, spam will get sent. IMO it is on OSGeo to
>> bring
>> this sacrifice.
>>
>> Actually, I know who has "stolen ownership", but will not disclose
>> identity
>> publicly following suggested practice.
>>
>> Rather, I am seeking contact to and investigation by the CoC Committee (or
>> whoever is in charge).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Peter
>>
>> [0] http://www.rasdaman.org
>> [1] https://www.openhub.net/p/rasdaman
>> [2] http://rasdaman.org/wiki/OSGeo
>>
>> PS: On the side, this IMHO justifies an amendment of the CoC rules to
>> prevent
>> such a case in future.
>>
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee Members

[Camille Acey]

*Call for Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee Members*
The mission of the Code of Conduct (CoC) Committee is to assist in making
sure that OSGeo continues to be an inclusive and welcoming organization; we
will accomplish this by (1) guiding policy around the CoC
<http://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct> and other initiatives to increase
diversity and (2) dealing with reports of violations of the CoC. The CoC
committee will continue to iterate on the CoC, its implementation, and
committee membership in order to ensure that they represent, nurture, and
encourage diversity in our community.

The committee itself will be open and maintain an open mailing list (
coc-disc...@osgeo.org) and will maintain a smaller voting committee that
will handle CoC incidents and violations. This smaller committee will
consist of a total of 5 members also serving one year terms. The additional
3 members will be selected by the co-chairs.

If you are interesting in joining the voting committee, please email
co-chairs Camille Acey and Kristin Bott at coc-private-ow...@lists.osgeo.org
with a short paragraph explaining why you'd like to join.  If you are
interesting in joining the general committee, just sign up here -
http://lists.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/coc-discuss

Thanks,
Camille
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] overall value of market for business based on OSGEO projects?

[Camille Acey]

On Jul 9, 2015 6:42 AM, Camille Acey joyous...@gmail.com wrote:

 Having worked on the sales side of a fairly important player in the space,
 I can say this is not a trivial exercise. However, if you could give a list
 of say the top five to ten players in the space, you might be able to pull
 up previous years of revenue info (because a lot of that is on record in
 public filings/registrations). From there, you could likely get a ballpark
 number.

 I know lots of companies are working around with slide decks that say
 things like Total Size of Geospatial Market with a big pie chart and a
 tiny FOSS slice jumping out but I feel like it's more of a marketing clip
 art exercise than a result of actual number crunching. That said, you might
 reach out to Black Duck, they do lots of surveys on general open source
 stuff. Andrew Ross and Eddie Pickle might also have some ideas.

 Camille
 On Jul 9, 2015 5:56 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Andrea,

 Not quite the same question, but an easier metric to measure, is the
 estimated cost of software to develop, using David Wheeler's method for
 evaluating the cost of Linux to develop
 http://www.dwheeler.com/sloc/redhat71-v1/redhat71sloc.html

 You can find OpenHub metrics for OSGeo projects referenced from:
 http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

 On 9/07/2015 3:53 pm, Andrea Giacomelli wrote:

  Hi Brian, and thanks for the inspirational overview. I totally
 agree with it.

  But if I go back with this to my colleague (I won't meet him at the cafe
 after close-of-business today because I'm travelling, but tomorrow might
 well be), he will claim that this is too much of a quasi-philosophical
 explanation.

  A simple way of getting the number is simply checking the revenue of the
 key  companies involved in the business.

  The next quantum leap in innovation might be round the corner and
 completely change our paradigms for estimating the size of a market, but
 until this happens, if we are assigning a value to it, we are making a bet.

  The third level you mention is what my colleague calls ecosystem
 services. Interestingly, their value can be estimated as well (I have
 started to work a few years ago on one of these cases);

  but for the time being, I will stick to level 1, considering the
 thread open for a couple of days, should any other folk wish to drop a line.

  Thanks also for the good travels in Italy...in fact I am an Italian
 citizen and a resident, but I travel quite a lot up and down The boot, as
 we call it (today towards the AC/DC gig in Imola...)

  Best regards!

  Andrea Giacomelli
  http://www.pibinko.org



 2015-07-08 21:22 GMT+02:00 Brian M Hamlin mapl...@light42.com:

 Hi Andrea -

   like so many good questions looking for a simple answer, there is no
 simple answer..
 Let's make a thought experiment .. and divide economic acitivity into
 three different groups..
 Each one could be measured in currency, but I wll argue that only one of
 them makes sense..

  * in the first case, the market is like a physical market . someone has
 eggs to sell, or furniture, or a service like medical service..
 a customer pays in currency, and all transactions are recorded
 (somehow).. the ecomonic value is the sum of all transactions..

 * the second is a market like a legal federation of many marketplaces..
 things are available from multiple sources, so prices go up and down..
 the prices change for a variety of reasons. But, what if someone gives
 something essential, for non-market reasons..
 the price may go down.. but what if a machine is invented that make one
 million times more of a good or service?
 does the price go down ? what if the machine makes something that was
 never available before.. is there a price ?

 * the third is the natural world we live in.. a unique collection of
 clear air, clean water, things to eat and places to live and
 make babies.. what is the price of clean water ? does it go up or
 down.. what is the price of a rhinocerous or an elephant,
 that is a living being not in the human market at all .. what if the
 actions of the market kills or poison things that are not in the
 market, to make room for things that are in the market..

   what if software can be used to understand these relationships outside
 of any market ?
   what is the price of this software ..

 So, in the first and most simple case.. you could take the sum of
 economic activity inside the exchange of currency..
 However, on a larger scale, the second and third measures are very
 important.. I say that the OpenSource Geospatial
 software worlds are very much in all of those.. so any number you count
 in the first one will be a poor measure of the
 others..

   good travels in Italy
   Brian M Hamlin

 --
 Brian M Hamlin
 OSGeo California Chapter
 blog.light42.com




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