Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some continuity of organization and management
I support reassessing the FOSS4G modus operandi to ensure it stays fresh and relevant to the OSGeo communities and markets and keeps up to date with changing realities. Indeed it should be open to evolving from year to year. I think the essence of FOSS4G moving around the world and being a ‘local yet global’ event shouldn’t be lost. Perhaps more elements of conference organisation could be centralised to minimise the burden on the LOC and for continuity. I think Steven stepping up to assist with sponsorship support for a few years now is an example of that. I would say the web site / digital platform is another element that is a huge effort to re-imagine and reimplement each year, although when it was attempted before (for 2008) it was far from ideal, so it would have to be considered carefully. There will always be substantial effort involved at the local level, which for most LOC members is probably a once-off yet very gratifying labour of love. As far as the conference committee goes, I think it’s essential to retain as many past chairs / LOC members as are willing, but that membership should be supplemented by any wiling CM. regards Gavin > On 08 Feb 2022, at 23:25, Bruce Bannerman via Discuss > mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org>> wrote: > > Well said Sanghee. > > As a former member of the LOC for FOSS4G-2009 I agree with the local > community development argument, though in our case it led to a lot of > burn-out. > > There is also the practicality of finding a conference organiser that can > operate effectively anywhere in the world. > > Should the alternate approach go through, significant thought also needs to > go into the procurement process to avoid the very real potential for > corruption. > > Kind regards, > > Bruce > >> On 9 Feb 2022, at 01:28, 신상희 via Discuss > <mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org>> wrote: >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> I prefer option 1. >> >> If this poll was asked just after FOSS4G Seoul 2015, I would have selected >> option 2 without any hesitations. >> >> However I now realize that I, LOC members, and local community had learned a >> lot by going through the difficulties of preparing the event altogether. >> That experience was very unique, invaluable and is now one of driving force >> of vibrant activity of OSGeo Korean chapter. Community driven FOSS4G with >> help from PCO is not so bad model, I think. >> >> Kind regards, >> 신상희 >> --- >> Shin, Sanghee >> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company >> www.gaia3d.com <http://www.gaia3d.com/> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "michael terner" mailto:terner...@gmail.com>> >> To: "Steven Feldman" mailto:shfeld...@gmail.com>> >> Cc: "OSGeo-Conf" > <mailto:conference_...@lists.osgeo.org>>; "OSGeo Discussions" >> mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org>>; "Massimiliano >> Cannata" > <mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>>; "Eli Adam" > <mailto:ea...@co.lincoln.or.us>> >> Sent: 2022-02-06 오전 6:09:42 >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some >> continuity of organization and management >> >>> +2 for considering change >>> >>> There's definitely room to consider continual improvements for the >>> conference process, as the world, and our community has evolved >>> considerably over the last few years. No easy solutions, but lots to think >>> about. >>> >>> Eli starting this thread with an "informal poll" makes complete sense. The >>> Committee is simply doing it's job of helping the Board to manage and >>> promote the conference activity. We don't get to make decisions by >>> ourselves, but generating ideas is certainly part of the mandate. And, as >>> others have said, if the board disagrees with a proposal/idea, they do not >>> have to approve it. >>> >>> MT >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 6:02 AM Steven Feldman >> <mailto:shfeld...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> +2 from me >>> >>> Everyone is welcome to participate in the conversation about changes to the >>> organisation of FOSS4G, then the Conference Ctee should vote and make a >>> recommendation (or recommendations) to the Board and the Board should >>> decide. >>> >>> Our organisational model is that the charter members elect the board and >>> the board then makes decisions on their behalf, if CM’s don’t agree with >>> board decisions
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Short codes for locations
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Using ArcGIS Desktop with PostGIS [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hi Bruce I've done fairly extensive research as this is a very common situation. The landscape is quite fluid though. There are a few third party extensions out there but I haven't had much luck with them in a read-write production environment. Native read support of PostGIS from ArcGIS desktop has been available for a few versions now. The clincher is write support. For that you need to pay up and as a minimum get ArcGIS Editor (now called Standard). ArcGIS ArcView (now called Basic) won't get you write access. And you can't get around it with WFS-T either. So in a nutshell, to write to native PostGIS via a database connection or WFS-T you need either ArcGIS Standard ('Editor') or Enterprise ('ArcInfo') or ArcGIS Server (set up to use native PostGIS geometry). Gavin On 11/07/2014 06:56, Bruce Bannerman wrote: Hi, Does anyone have any experience using PostGIS as a vector spatial data source with ArcGIS Desktop as a client? I'm particularly interested in our ArcGIS Desktop users being able to create, update and delete spatial data managed within a PostGIS environment, without the use of ArcSDE or similar middle wear. Would you be interested in sharing any experiences that you've had from implementation to operational use? We have a mixed spatial environment with both ArcGIS Desktop and open source Desktop GIS applications as client tools. Provided that we can arrive at a good robust solution, I'd like to move our ArcGIS Desktop clients away from ArcSDE, and consolidate our vector spatial database environment on Postgres / PostGIS. Bruce ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Gavin Fleming t: 0218620670 w: 0218630660 c: 0845965680 f: 0866164820 Paarl South Africa 18°59'19.6E 33°44'46.1S ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gis data download app per sheet/quad suggestions
Here are two more: NOAA Grid extract WCS client: http://maps.ngdc.noaa.gov/viewers/wcs-client/ The UKs Landmap Kaia portal: http://www.landmap.ac.uk/index.php/Interactive-Mapping/Landmap-Kaia/Landmap-Kaia-Portal Gavin On 15/04/2014 17:26, Duarte Carreira wrote: Doug, The presentation from FW and USA Corps is very interesting, and the viewer seems nice too. This is the nearest Ive seen so far similar to this workflow. It seems weird there is are so few options, even commercially Duarte De: Newcomb, Doug [mailto:doug_newc...@fws.gov] Enviada: tera-feira, 15 de Abril de 2014 15:57 Para: ajtur...@highearthorbit.com Cc: Duarte Carreira; discuss@lists.osgeo.org Assunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gis data download app per sheet/quad suggestions You might also look at this presentation on using mapserver. http://www.slideshare.net/foss4g2011/clip-and-shipmapserverfordatadistribution The Southeast GAP online tool has a clip and zip data download option ,http://www.gapserve.ncsu.edu/segap/segap/ ( you have to choose an are area interest first and be registered) . Contact the folks at http://www.basic.ncsu.edu and they might be able to give you some insights. Doug On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Andrew Turner ajtur...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few open-source options. They may not do exactly what you want but provide an interface that could be adapted. for imagery:https://github.com/Esri/image-discovery-app-js geoportal can call to zip ship processing:https://github.com/Esri/geoportal-server for a hosted option - you can use GeoCommons to save filtered views of datasets and then download those for free, but I'm not sure how configurable you need it to be. Andrew On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: Its for vector and raster De: Andrew Turner [mailto:ajtur...@gmail.com] Enviada: tera-feira, 15 de Abril de 2014 13:09 Para: Duarte Carreira Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Assunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gis data download app per sheet/quad suggestions Are you interested in vector, raster or other types of data? Andrew (via mobile - 248-982-3609) On Apr 15, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Was:Making my pitch] Charter Member Map
Africa is looking a little blank on Alex's map :-) My involvement with OSGeo started around 2005 when I kicked off the Africa list, which now has 350 members. I lead the (still unofficial) Africa / South Africa Local Chapter along with a a cabal of local FOSS GIS enthusiasts and am on the National Council of the GIS Society of South Africa as chair of the Open Source SIG. I led the bid for and chaired FOSS4G 2008 in Cape Town. The fruits of that are being tasted slowly but surely in the local industry as it demonstrated that there are real alternatives. Developing economies such as ours and others in Africa are arguably most in need of FOSS software and skills. I am an outspoken FOSS GIS advocate and push to get our Government's FOSS policy to mean something. OSGeo Charter membership would probably help most in this role. I help run FOSS GIS open days and public training courses and fly the OSGeo banner (literally) wherever I can. I have also just started a FOSS GIS company where the OSGeo brand will play a vital role. Gavin On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 01:23 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote: On 11/05/2010 04:09 AM, Joanne Cook wrote: Charter Membership would mean a lot to me, personally, and would (I think) help me when I am trying to raise the profile of the foundation. Having more female charter members will help address the gender imbalance within the organisation that was identified at FOSS4G in Barcelona. The UK is also currently quite under-represented, so it would be nice to see more Brits on the list as well. I hope that helps... Jo That got me pondering, what is the spatial distribution of the current charter members. For those curious to the answer, and with a little help from the regulars on IRC http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:Chartermap11-2010.png http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/File:Chartermap11-2010.pdf There's are quite a few ways to slice the data and I've only done some simple ones. Dividing by area or by population could be quite interesting. Email me if you'd like a copy of the spatialite database I've got going. That said, representation is one good way to look at the candidates (By Tribe, Project, Gender, Location, Academic/Industry/NGO x Big/Small). However, I also think it's important to consider the importance of both work in the local setting and work at the foundation level since Charter Members are tasked with ensuring the stability of the Foundation and providing a helping hand to fostering of local chapters. Thanks, Alex Disclaimer - I'm also on the list of nominations ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Gavin Fleming t: 0218620670 c: 0845965680 f: 0866164820 Paarl South Africa 18°59'18.8E 33°44'40.2S ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [kind-off topic?] Cellular Automata and GIS
ArcGIs Agent Analyst is a FOSS extension that brings in the FOSS Java Repast ( http://repast.sourceforge.net ) ABM. and a quick search nets http://gisagents.blogspot.com/ and this with GRASS: http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Search_and_Rescue On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 15:15 -0300, George Silva wrote: Hello everyone, Do you guys know about any on-going researches or papers on Cellular Automata, Multi Agent Systems and integration with GIS? What about Cased Based Reasoning? Any OS softwares or APIs that can do this sort of integration? I'm starting off some studies along these lines and CBR. If you have any tips, please let me know. Thanks, -- George R. C. Silva Desenvolvimento em GIS http://blog.geoprocessamento.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Gavin Fleming t: 0218620670 c: 0845965680 f: 0866164820 Paarl South Africa 18°59'18.8E 33°44'40.2S ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Survey on Web Geo-Spatial Open-Source Technologies
[Sorry for cross-posting] Hi everybody, I am part of the Spatial Information Systems Group in University College Dublin. We are conducting a survey on Open-Source technologies with particular focus on Geo-Spatial projects. Our first goal is to collect first-hand knowledge about a number of Open-Source projects active on the Internet. With this work we hope to identify strong and weak points of each project in order to give some guidelines for future directions to the Open-Source community and potential developers in relation to Geo-Spatial research. Therefore we would like to ask you to take an anonymous questionnaire on some Open-Source technologies. The questionnaire consists of a few simple questions about your experience with the software in terms of usability, stability, interoperability and so on. /Estimated completion time/: about 1 minute *Link to the questionnaire: *http://bit.ly/geospatial-opensource-survey /Projects included in this survey:/ GeoServer, MapServer, PostGIS, MySQL, Hibernate Spatial, Ruby on Rails, Grails, Proj.4, GeoTools, Java Topology Suite, OpenLayers, JsExt, Prototype, MooTools Feel free to contact us at *andrea.ballatore [at] ucd.ie* if you have any questions, comments and recommendation about this survey. Thank you for your attention, Spatial Information Systems Group, School of Computer Science and Informatics, University College Dublin -- Dr Gavin McArdle School of Computer Science and Informatics University College Dublin Belfield Dublin 4 Ireland p. +353 1 716 2944 e. gavin.mcar...@ucd.ie ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ?
There's already an OSGeo wiki section for this thread - please update with your contributions: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies#Open_Source_Policies Gavin On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 02:02 -0800, Ravi wrote: Hi. in India the southern state of Kerala is officially committed to Open Source. http://www.catfoss.kerala.gov.in/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=49Itemid=57 Cheers Ravi Kumar --- On Fri, 15/1/10, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas js...@osgeo.org wrote: From: Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas js...@osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gov't adopting open source ? To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Date: Friday, 15 January, 2010, 3:10 AM 2010/1/14 andrea giacomelli pibi...@gmail.com: Hi Tyler 2010/1/14 Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) tmitch...@osgeo.org: I'm just starting to dig into this question myself, but thought I'd ask if anyone else knows of a resource/document/site, etc. that shows which governments (nationally, regional or municipal) have committed to open source software? 1) in Europe, there is OSOR, which is the Open Source observatory. www.osor.eu This can be a good source. Maybe more related with use cases is ePractice[1], another european portal focused on use cases in public administration. In fact, OSOR, ePractice and SEMIC are three parallel efforts of the European Union to promote free software on public admin. Cheers [1] http://www.epractice.eu/ [2] http://www.semic.eu -- Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas Ingeniero en Geodesia y Cartografía http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jorge_Sanz ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo at IGARSS09
I'm arranging an OSGeo presence at www.igarss09.org http://www.igarss09.org in Cape Town from 13-17 July. I need to hear from any OSGeo / GRASS / OSSIM or related people who will be attending IGARSS and who can spend a bit of time at an OSGeo table. Please add you name and contact details to: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/IGARSS_2009 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/IGARSS_2009 Gavin Fleming ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo workshop opportunities at IGARSS'09
The 2009 IEEE International Symposium on Geoscience and Remote Sensing will be held in Cape Town in July. What we call workshops at FOSS4G, they call Tutorials and here's an opportunity for OSSIM, GDAL, GRASS, ILWIS and others to be showcased: http://www.igarss09.org/tutorials.asp On that note, who in the Africa Chapter will be attending IGARSS? Perhaps we could create a presence there. Gavin Fleming This message is intended for the addressee only. Information and attachments in this e-mail may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful, and could result in a claim against you. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2008 conference materials
Perfect timing Eduardo There was a permissions bug on the FOSS4G website hosted by OSGeo that was fixed only last week. Many presentations have since been uploaded and we hope to have all of them available soon, along with some of the materials from workshops and labs. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo Kanegae Sent: 31 October 2008 11:07 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2008 conference materials Hi, Will the materials from FOSS4G2008 conference be published at www.foss4g2008.org ? thanks ;-) -- Eduardo Kanegae http://anthologis.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message is intended for the addressee only. Information and attachments in this e-mail may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful, and could result in a claim against you. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] some post-FOSS4G thoughts
Frank wrote: As an alternative to a stand-alone event, it can also be helpful to work with an existing GIS conference organizer to provide an open source track or something similar. We've just been approached by www.eis-africa.org who are keen to run a dedicated FOSS4G track at www.africagis2009.org , 26-29 Oct 2009, the week after FOSS4G 2009. AfricaGIS is the major GIS conference in Africa (e.g. 750 delegates in Pretoria in 2005). So, who's keen to make it happen? GISSA will try to run FOSS4G tracks / have FOSS4G booths at all future national and provincial events in SA as well. Gavin This message is intended for the addressee only. Information and attachments in this e-mail may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful, and could result in a claim against you. winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G online registration closes Thursday
We're seeing a surge in last-minute registrations. Note that Online registration at www.foss4g2008.org http://www.foss4g2008.org is closing on Thursday. You can register and pay on site at the CTICC at the following times: Sunday 28th: 16h00 - 19h00 Monday 29th through Friday 3rd: from 07h00 - 10h00. The FOSS4G venue is big so there's no chance we won't let you in (when you've paid). But please register online if you can to help with our planning. See you in Cape Town next week! Gavin This message is intended for the addressee only. Information and attachments in this e-mail may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful, and could result in a claim against you. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo booth demo PC @ FOSS4G- Cape Town
If you'd like to demo your project in the live Demonstration Theatre, a concept that worked so well last year, please check out http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Demos and let Tim (cc'd) know what you'd like to demo and when. The demo theatre will be right inside the exhibition hall. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Bowden Sent: 18 September 2008 08:54 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo booth demo PC @ FOSS4G- Cape Town The OSGeo booth PC will be available for demos/avi's etc for OSGeo projects. So far we have an OSSIMPlanet avi and a trailer for the Sydney conf next year, but I'm sure there is plenty more content that could go there. If you'd like to take this opportunity to get some more exposure for your project, please drop me a line. If anyone wants to install a demo I can organise that also. The PC will be setup to dual boot windows and Ubuntu for those that need it. We will have a wired connection to the wireless lan, so if required we can handle web style demos. Regards, Tim Bowden -- Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake when you make it again. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G LiveCD
A LiveCD BOF is a good idea - you can start planning it here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_BOF_Sessions A few of the workshops and labs will be using liveCD or liveUSB. Is anyone keen to produce a few hundred CDs of one or more of the liveCD versions out there to distribute at the conference? Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Becchi Sent: 10 September 2008 02:40 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G LiveCD Tim Bowden wrote: Is the liveCD issue worth a BOF in Cape Town? I'm happy to coordinate if there is sufficient interest. Proly irc hookup for those not there. Thoughts? good idea Tim. None from Ominiverdi will be there fisically but we can try to be on IRC. ciao Lorenzo ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?)
An excellent potted history of OSS is in Steven Weber's 'The Success of Open Source' Gavin Are you coming to www.foss4g2008.org? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot Sent: 21 August 2008 07:53 AM To: PROJ.4 and general Projections Discussions Cc: 'OSGeo Discussions'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Users and Developers mailing list'; 'PostGIS Users Discussion' Subject: Re: [Proj] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit offtopic?) Norman Vine wrote: Mateusz Loskot writes Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Brief history of GIS OSS (bit off topic?) George Silva wrote: Hello lists, As you can i see im mailing this message to some lists around the web (im sorry if thats a problem). At the moment i am writing my BSc thesis (Geography) focusing the development of a open source software and database for logging and analysing traffic accidents in Uberlândia, MG - Brazil. I am dedicating a chapter in my thesis to explaining Open Source Software, and OSS for GIS. i searched the web for some history of OSS in general, but i found too many different sources. So i come to you, developers of GIS OSS, to see if you can give me references of where to search for the history and process regarding this theme. George, Here is number of keywords related to history of FOSS4G and that you may google for and find details: - Sol Katz - Map Overlay and Statistical System (MOSS) - GRASS History (http://grass.itc.it/devel/grasshist.html) - UMP MapServer history Mateusz Great credits but don't forgot http://trac.osgeo.org/proj/ or perhaps http://members.verizon.net/~vze2hc4d/proj4/ :-) Thanks Gerry !! Norman, Yes, I've forgot about these two. Thanks for completing. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Workshops now available! OpenStreetMap mapping party!
2008 Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G) Conference incorporating GISSA 2008, September 29 - October 3, Cape Town, South Africa We are pleased to announce that the Workshop programme has been finalised. FOSS4G is renowned for its hands-on workshops, so REGISTER NOW TO SECURE YOUR PLACE! Please visit http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Workshops_and_Technical_Visits where you will be able to view the topics, presenters and time slots. Instructions are on the website. If you are already registered and paid you will receive preference. If not, then first register for the conference here http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2008/schedConf/registration and choose your workshops during the registration process through e-mail correspondence with the conference organisers. OpenStreetMap mapping party: If you're in Cape Town on Sunday 28th September, warm up for the conference by walking the streets of Cape Town with a GPS! See here for details or if you want to give some input: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenMappingAfrica2008 or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProject_South_Africa We hope to see you in Cape Town in September, in SIX WEEKS! For up-to-date information, registration and program details, please visit the conference website: http://www.foss4g2008.org/ Gavin Fleming FOSS4G 2008 conference chair PS: please disseminate this as widely as possible ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEo material
Hi Frans Yes there's lots going on - see http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Education_Committee_Work_Program Join the http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/edu_discuss list And come to FOSS4G 2008 to find out more! Gavin Fleming FOSS4G2008 conference chair: http://www.foss4g2008.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frans Thamura Sent: 04 August 2008 11:48 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEo material hi all i just want to know, is there an official osgeo material for education, so we can use it to penetrate the osgeo program to the univs or school i am glad if it is official there is osgeo.net that arnulf showed to me last year. any progress? -- -- Frans Thamura Meruvian Foundation Mobile: +62 855 7888 699 Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/fthamura Training JENI, Medallion (Alfresco, Liferay dan Compiere).. buruan... URL: http://nagasakti.mervpolis.com/roller/mervnews/entry/jeni_training_compi ere_dan_alfresco ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] End of life for Community Mapbuilder
Mike's mention of the key role of a BoF in cooperation among projects is as good a reason as any to mention that you can plan your BoF session for 2008 here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_BOF_Sessions. Who knows where it will lead? Gavin FOSS4G2008 conference chair -- Frank Warmerdam wrote: In fact, I've been just thrilled by the degree of cooperation achieved between several of the web mapping client side projects in recent years. The experience and efforts focused on improvement and exploitation of OpenLayers by those involved in Mapbuilder, ka-map and other projects has helped turn OpenLayers into what I would argue is the best of breed role it plays now. I just want to point out that a key event in this process was the web mapping client BoF at Lausanne where all of the FOSS client projects got together and decided to stop re-inventing the wheel. For me, this is a tangible demonstration of the benefits that OSGeo can achieve. Mike ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g
That's music to my ears... Just a note about accommodation. If finding cheaper accommodation means deciding to come to the conference, have a look at our 'do-it-yourself' wiki page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_DIY. Also see the link to the Room share page if you want to cut costs by sharing a room. While I have your attention, if you haven't seen what's on offer yet click on 'Presentations' or try the 'Browse' options in the right panel of www.foss4g2008.org to see the abstracts. We'll be putting the workshops and technical visits 'on offer' soon so make sure you register for the 'conference + workshops' package to be first in line. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Sueur Sent: 09 July 2008 12:17 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g +1 same for me. Guillaume andrea antonello a écrit : As it should be done, I want to point out also that after this first problem with the registration was solved and defined, we got a perfect service and an immediate answer at every type of question from the peoplesa folks. And when I say immediatly, I mean it. I know that some people are still waiting for the form to come, but at that point I feel I can repeat what others told me: don't panic :) Ciao Andrea On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Paolo Cavallini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gavin Fleming ha scritto: As the Hitchhikers' Guide states, Don't Panic! Some clarification of the process is in order, please bear with us... 1) Register on the conference website. i.e. choose a conference package. Then hang back for a bit. 2) The conference organisers, PeopleSA, are notified and they send you a form. 3) You fill in the form and send it back. It specifies your choices for accommodation, gala dinner, etc. that could not be captured on the conference website. 4) PeopleSA then send you an invoice for registration, accommodation (if you choose from their offerings), gala dinner, etc. with a reference code. 5) You then proceed to pay. If by credit card, then here, where you will be asked for the reference code on your invoice: http://www.psaevents.co.za/Events/Foss4g/registration.aspx. Hi Gavin. I do not panic, but I must admit I got lost in the procedure. I think I have registered, but I did not receive the form. What do you suggest I should do? Thanks. pc -- Paolo Cavallini, see: * http://www.faunalia.it/pc * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Thinking of Exhibiting at the most important GIS conference in SA this year? Reserve your stand by July 7 for Early Bird rates
2008 Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G) Conference incorporating GISSA 2008, September 29 - October 3, Cape Town, South Africa We've extended the exhibitor early bird deadline because of mailing list hitches, so Reserve your stand by July 7 to get early bird rates: Commercial Exhibitors Booth size (3mX3m) Early i.e. reservation by July 7 is R17 500 (~$2270 USD) Government/Non-profit/Universities Booth size (3mX3m) Early i.e. reservation by July 7 is R12 500 (~$1620 USD) Exhibitors to date (4 July) include: Autodesk; SITA; Google; GIMS; Geograph; Borealis; Open Spatial Solutions; GIS Global Image; CDSM (Chief Directorate: Surveys and Mapping); Eskom ESI; MapWindow; United Nations; OGC (Open Geospatial Consortium); CSIR, Camptocamp, 52North, SAEON, Optron There are still sponsorship opportunities available. Sponsors to date (20 June) are: Platinum: Autodesk; Gold: SITA; Silver: Google and GIMS; Bronze: WhereGroup, MapGears, LatLon, GeoTerraImage, DM Solutions Group and Mintek. Registration Conference registration is covers the core 3.5 day conference, featuring academic, presentation and poster tracks, live demo theatre, plenaries, exhibition hall, wall-to-wall hands-on mini-workshops ('labs') and more! A fantastic Gala dinner at Moyo in Stellenbosch is an extra item that will be worth every cent. By 26 June we had 300 delegates from over 40 countries. Register at http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2008/schedConf/registration Content We have been overwhelmed with quality submissions in our academic and presentation tracks. You will be able to choose from among 60 academic papers and 140 presentations, that will run in parallel with the labs. For a taste of the content to expect and to get your mouth watering, use the 'Browse' tools on the right panel of the conference website: www.foss4g2008.org http://www.foss4g2008.org/ . Hands-on workshops and labs At an additional cost, you get a full five days featuring all of the above PLUS the extremely popular FOSS4G hands-on workshops. We have added some interesting technical visits too this year. Get a feel for the workshops and labs here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Workshops_and_Labs. Keynote speaker Ed Parsons http://www.edparsons.com/ , chief of geospatial technology at Google and ex CTO of the UK Ordnance Survey will be a keynote speaker at the opening plenary. We hope to see you in Cape Town, South Africa in September, in just under three months! For up-to-date information, registration and program details, please visit the conference website: http://www.foss4g2008.org/ PS: please disseminate this as widely as possible ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g
Good to hear that Guillaume By Monday 23rd we had 240 registrations from over 40 countries. That's a great core of Early Birds to start with. We are going to expand our marketing campaign now to attract more registrants from a wider spectrum over the next 3 months. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Guillaume Sueur Sent: 25 June 2008 08:43 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g It does a lot Gavin thank you for clarification. By the way, I've had an email yesterday from People SA saying everything was ok and they just needed a little time to treat the +200 early bird registers. Regards Guillaume Gavin Fleming a écrit : As the Hitchhikers' Guide states, Don't Panic! Some clarification of the process is in order, please bear with us... 1) Register on the conference website. i.e. choose a conference package. Then hang back for a bit. 2) The conference organisers, PeopleSA, are notified and they send you a form. 3) You fill in the form and send it back. It specifies your choices for accommodation, gala dinner, etc. that could not be captured on the conference website. 4) PeopleSA then send you an invoice for registration, accommodation (if you choose from their offerings), gala dinner, etc. with a reference code. 5) You then proceed to pay. If by credit card, then here, where you will be asked for the reference code on your invoice: http://www.psaevents.co.za/Events/Foss4g/registration.aspx. Early birds: You are being asked to send your forms back urgently so you can get an invoice in short order. The hurry now is to secure accommodation as part of the conference block booking. The hold on that is released this week. There is nothing we can do about that. Cape Town is really bustling that time of year and hotels won't keep blocks on hold any longer. There is every likelihood that rooms at those hotels will still be available after the hold is lifted and they WILL be at the conference rate. So, try to fill in your form and pay this week as requested. But if you don't manage, you'll most likely still get your hotel and if you pay within a month of invoice, you'll STILL GET YOUR EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION RATE. Hope that helps Gavin Fleming FOSS4G2008 conference chair From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeroen Ticheler Sent: Tue 2008/06/24 05:06 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g Hi Andrea, I had the same thing :-) Had to fill out the form while I also registered online. I guess the form is the formal sealing of the deal although I was also confused a bit. You still need to register for other workshops you want to attend and for the gala dinner. Ciao, Jeroen On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:45 PM, andrea antonello wrote: Hi, that will sound strange, but indeed I have some problems in registering at Foss4g. I did my registration process with a workshop presenter code, which should mean I have full discount (do both workshop predenters have full discount?). Well, the registration ended up in... nothing. No great, you subscribed or similar. Now, after some time, this email comes (ok, the header tells me they had some problems) in which I am asked to send a fax and do my payment by means of today to get the early bird. Since one of the presenters probably will have to pay, I tried to understand from the website, tried to contact organisers and reviewers, but got no answer. Since no one else is bothering, I assume I'm the only one with this problem. So could someone with clear ideas in mind give me some feedback please? Thanks, Andrea ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thematic Mapping Engine as Open Source?
A few more hosting options are listed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=344490 Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Schmidt Sent: 24 June 2008 02:22 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thematic Mapping Engine as Open Source? On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 02:01:17PM +0200, Arnulf Christl wrote: Just as a side note: Google has been overly submissive to US Export Regulations and rejects requests from IPs that can be traced to a location within an country that falls under their export ban list. Unfortunately the same applies to SourceForge. Thus publishing your project through Google Code or SourceForge effectively prevents interested folks from joining the project if they are citizen of a nation that falls under the US Export Regulations. This also applies to people only visiting such countries. Is there some other easy option here? Hosting your own is fscking painful, OSGeo doesn't offer hosting for small projects like this, and I expect anyone else who is big enough to make solving this problem easy likely isn't in a position to be much more open/unrestricted, because they're governed by the same laws. It seems to me like an option is just to make the code available on google code, and also republish it in another easily-googled place. Then, if it becomes an issue that is blocking contributors, put the effort into doing something about it -- setting up an SVN mirror, or something similar, to allow those users to contribute. In general, OpenLayers has not seen major contributions from technology export-embargoed countries. (Our server doesn't have technical restrictions blocking export to these countries.) Although it is a concern -- and certainly, it's unfortunate because it is a vicious cycle where contributors are typically blocked, so they don't even bother kind of thing -- I think that the relative importance of this to, say, a website being down an hour a week or something like that is relatively low (and if you're maintaining it yourself, you'll always have downtime when things break). Regards, -- Christopher Schmidt Web Developer ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g
As the Hitchhikers' Guide states, Don't Panic! Some clarification of the process is in order, please bear with us... 1) Register on the conference website. i.e. choose a conference package. Then hang back for a bit. 2) The conference organisers, PeopleSA, are notified and they send you a form. 3) You fill in the form and send it back. It specifies your choices for accommodation, gala dinner, etc. that could not be captured on the conference website. 4) PeopleSA then send you an invoice for registration, accommodation (if you choose from their offerings), gala dinner, etc. with a reference code. 5) You then proceed to pay. If by credit card, then here, where you will be asked for the reference code on your invoice: http://www.psaevents.co.za/Events/Foss4g/registration.aspx. Early birds: You are being asked to send your forms back urgently so you can get an invoice in short order. The hurry now is to secure accommodation as part of the conference block booking. The hold on that is released this week. There is nothing we can do about that. Cape Town is really bustling that time of year and hotels won't keep blocks on hold any longer. There is every likelihood that rooms at those hotels will still be available after the hold is lifted and they WILL be at the conference rate. So, try to fill in your form and pay this week as requested. But if you don't manage, you'll most likely still get your hotel and if you pay within a month of invoice, you'll STILL GET YOUR EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION RATE. Hope that helps Gavin Fleming FOSS4G2008 conference chair From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeroen Ticheler Sent: Tue 2008/06/24 05:06 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g Hi Andrea, I had the same thing :-) Had to fill out the form while I also registered online. I guess the form is the formal sealing of the deal although I was also confused a bit. You still need to register for other workshops you want to attend and for the gala dinner. Ciao, Jeroen On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:45 PM, andrea antonello wrote: Hi, that will sound strange, but indeed I have some problems in registering at Foss4g. I did my registration process with a workshop presenter code, which should mean I have full discount (do both workshop predenters have full discount?). Well, the registration ended up in... nothing. No great, you subscribed or similar. Now, after some time, this email comes (ok, the header tells me they had some problems) in which I am asked to send a fax and do my payment by means of today to get the early bird. Since one of the presenters probably will have to pay, I tried to understand from the website, tried to contact organisers and reviewers, but got no answer. Since no one else is bothering, I assume I'm the only one with this problem. So could someone with clear ideas in mind give me some feedback please? Thanks, Andrea ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2008 Early Bird Registration Ends TODAY (20 June) + more news
2008 Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial (FOSS4G) Conference incorporating GISSA 2008, September 29 - October 3, Cape Town, South Africa Register here TODAY for early-bird rates: http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2008/schedConf/registration Book TODAY to get the early bird rates: Conference registration before the deadline is just R2900 (ZAR) (~$372 USD); after June 20, registration is R3900 (~$500 USD). This covers the core 3.5 day conference, featuring academic, presentation and poster tracks, live demo theatre, plenaries, exhibition hall, wall-to-wall hands-on mini-workshops ('labs') and more! A fantastic Gala dinner at Moyo in Stellenbosch is an extra item that will be worth every cent. The early bird really does get the worm! ACCOMMODATION To secure our special conference accommodation packages you need to complete you registration and pay by 24 June. PRESENTATIONS AND PAPERS We have been overwhelmed with quality submissions in our academic and presentation tracks. You will be able to choose from among 60 academic papers and 140 presentations, that will run in parallel with the labs. For a taste of the content to expect and to get your mouth watering, use the 'Browse' tools on the right panel of the conference website: www.foss4g2008.org. Note: At this stage we are still accepting and confirming papers so NOT ALL will be visible yet. HANDS-ON WORKSHOPS AND LABS For R4900 (ZAR) (~$628 USD) if you register before 20 June, you get a full five days featuring all of the above PLUS the extremely popular FOSS4G hands-on workshops. We have added some interesting technical visits too this year. So register now and as soon as the items listed below have been confirmed on the programme we will let you know so you can make your choices, first come-first served. If you wait till after June 20, full registration goes up to R5900 (ZAR) (~$756 USD). Get a feel for the workshops and labs here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Workshops_and_Labs. We will let you know when you can choose your workshops, if you register for a 'conference + workshops' package. POSTERS Submission deadline for posters is 30 June. See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Call_for_papers#Call_for_Posters for details. EXHIBITOR AND SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES (NB: Bronze sponsorships now available) Early bird rates apply to exhibitors too! If you are planning to exhibit, reserve your stand BEFORE 30 JUNE for big savings! For information on exhibitor and sponsorship opportunities, see http://tinyurl.com/555ade or contact Gavin Fleming, Conference Chair via email: gavinf at mintek dot co.za. We hope to see you in Cape Town, South Africa in September, in just over three months! For up-to-date information, registration and program details, please visit the conference website: http://www.foss4g2008.org/ PS: please disseminate this as widely as possible ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] South African safety situation
Hi all and thanks for bringing it up Paolo Yes we are sadly going through a spate of unrest and criminal violence in poverty-stricken neighbourhoods in South Africa, mainly against foreigners from other parts of Africa. 'xenophobic attacks' as they are labelled. Believe me, we have to and will get things right - while FOSS4G is a small community, the whole world is gearing up for the 2010 World Cup in SA. It has not affected tourists and visitors although some are obviously scared to come at the moment, and it is abating. Of course this situation and the complexities giving rise to it are experienced in other countries, developed and developing, and are not unique to South Africa. Many of the conference topics indeed attempt to address the root causes of situations like this. South Africa recently overtook Brazil as the country with the highest Gini coefficient, which is nothing to be proud of. This disparity in wealth distribution despite high levels of so-called economic 'growth' is one of the root causes of dissatisfaction leading to the current situation here. We also have by some estimates between 5 and 10 million immigrants, labourers and refugees, mainly from Zimbabwe recently but really from all over Africa on top of a local population of about 45 million. These things coupled with our apartheid history and recent transformation are what make South Africa a fascinating destination and subject of research for people from all over the world. So we hope people will come for some of these reasons and to have a say in solving some of these challenges. As it affects potential FOSS4G 2008 delegates, I suggest be aware of the situation but don't let it put you off. Our tourism numbers are increasing at about 9% per year and last year was another record in terms of numbers of overseas visitors. South Africa is a top international big conference venue. Cape Town is a tourist mecca rivalling Paris, Sydney, Vancouver etc. The City of Cape Town, the conference centre and environs are safe. Whatever appeals to you as a tourist, travelling far and wide in South Africa and even neighbouring countries, be it our fantastic wildlife and scenery, backpacking, local culture, immersing yourself in township life, shark-cage diving, whale-watching, whatever, you are bound to have a great conference and memorable travels in South Africa. Gavin FOSS4G 2008 conference chair -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paolo Cavallini Sent: 30 May 2008 09:27 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] South African safety situation Hi all. I'm informed, both from the newspapers and from South African friends, that there are serious concerns about safety in South Africa. Of course this will not affect FOSS4G directly, but I'm sure many of us are planning to have some holidays before or after the conference, so not being able to tour around freely will detract much from the appeal of the conference. This could result in less participation, thus in turn in lower general interest. Any news or indications from local organizers? I think this is a problem that should be dealt with, for the best success of the meeting. All the best. pc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] South African safety situation
Hi Paolo M, you're writing from Brazil, right? Just to add a byline to my previous post: As usual the media is presenting the sensational side of things. For a more positive view of SA see http://www.sagoodnews.co.za/ Gavin From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Paulo Marcondes Sent: Fri 2008/05/30 04:14 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] South African safety situation 2008/5/30 Lucena, Ivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Gavin, My South Africans friends here in the US and I are deeply concern about that situation too. I just wanted to add that thanks to economic growth and social reforms, Brazil is now a moving target on what concern wealth concentration index. Brazilian business, factories and agriculture are investing now in Africa. I hope that Word Cup, tourism, conferences and other business could bring more opportunities to South African of all ethnicity and that will result in peace and prosperity. Gavin and Ivan, The last 14 years have been extremely profitable for banks and financial investors. So, I an quite pessimist regarding wealth distribution. Also, there are some concerns regarding the political climate here. Many seem it as getting more and more unfriendly to private property and civil liberties. For instance, what you call realID is a reality here since unremembered times, and that is also a police issued document. No one seems to give a rat's ass about that. talk about police state... we are far more down that road than the US, or even the UK, AFAIK. The only thing we don't have so far is a no-fly list. the cup is half empty, -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.224 = GG86jc winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2008 Call for paper and workshops extended!
Free and Open Source Geospatial 2008, Cape Town, South Africa. September 29 - Oct 3 2008, incorporating GISSA 2008. SUBMISSION DEADLINE EXTENSION! 23 May Due to demand, the Where 2.0 conference starting on our previous deadline and a website glitch with the original cut-off date, we are pleased to announce the EXTENSION of the deadline for Paper, Presentation and Poster abstracts AND the deadline for Workshop proposals to the *** 23 MAY ***. Go to http://www.foss4g2008.org http://www.foss4g2008.org/ and click on 'Call for Papers'. You can also view the Call for Papers at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Call_for_papers and the Call for Workshop proposals at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_Call_for_workshops Thanks to those of you who have submitted so far. As of 14 May we already have an exciting selection of Workshops and Labs (32), Academic Papers (50), Presentations (85) and Posters (10). The previous Announcement http://conference.osgeo.org/index.php/foss4g/2008/announcement/view/6 gave you a taste of the Workshops. As far as papers and presentations go, a small sampling gives us 'An Integrated Water Resource Decision Support System built from OSS tools', 'Characterisation of tsunami affected areas using remote sensing and GIS', 'Modus Operandi of a FOSS GIS project in India', 'Challenges in GIS education and training', 'Using Python and wxWidgets to build custom GIS applications', 'Using KML and Google Earth to interact with SA water resource data', 'Easing Transition to Open Source Geo-Spatial Data Manipulation in GML', 'A Free GIS Book', 'Open-source based market information systems - one option for Developing Nations',' A year of full-speed FOSS- winning the hearts, minds, and business case', 'Senegalese land register modernization through OpenSource software', 'BeeGis: digital field mapping that just works',' The use of FOSS GIS in Integrated GIS in Local Government in South Africa',' GIS in the Geography Curriculum: Teacher Training'.' Topology support in FOSS4G solutions', 'TerraLib as an Open Source Platform for Public Health Applications',' Google Earth Powered by MapGuide Open Source',' GDAL/OGR Project Status Report' and this list goes on. Remember: Early-bird registration now closes on 20th June and hotel specials will be released soon after, so register soon! Submit your abstract or proposal soon. Come and have a bash in Cape Town. Gavin Fleming FOSS4G 2008 Conference Chair www.foss4g2008.org PS: Please distribute this notice widely, blog about FOSS4G 2008, add a banner to your website, add FOSS4G2008 to your website calendar... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Comparison between Proprietary and OS
So, who's going to condense this and related threads into a presentation at FOSS4G2008? It's the sort of input a lot of people are interested in. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micha Silver Sent: 26 April 2008 04:32 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Comparison between Proprietary and OS Andre Grobler wrote: ... So the hurdles for me to OS were acceptance specifically for the following reasons: Free and easy access and training of ESRI at varsity. Autocad did the same and look where that got them. Linux, just mentioning command lines has me a little nervous. (I know this is changing, but the field calculator is enough programming for me, thanks) ... So in short I am doing what somebody already suggested, get ESRI for day to day soft landing and learn OS GRASS and OSSIM meanwhile for real work;-) Hopefully in a while I'll wonder what the fuss was about... and possibly contribute, if only to the dummies FAQ section. André Grobler Andre: I had the privilege recently to give a short beginners course in GIS to a small group of undergrads in environmental science. Before the semester started I had decided to give the course based on FOSS tools. I first sat down with the network technician, who told me that they have ArcGIS 9, network licence, but he don't know where the disks were, and was concerned about space on the server, network traffic, bogging down their Terminal Server etc, etc. So I (rubbing my hands together) told him, no problem, we're going with Open Source Software. Turned out some of the students had MACs and one was using Ubuntu, so the choice to go with OSS tools was a no brainer. To my surprise, by the forth lesson we had gotten to watershed analysis, and students were running the GRASS modules (within QGIS). Admittedly we leapfrogged over some stuff, but still I doubt I could have reached that level with Arc* tools in such a short time span. The comfort zone problem is well know and likely the most difficult hurdle to overcome when trying to migrate to OSS tools. But to some extent it's nothing more than a matter of perception. Proprietary software vendors have surrounded us with distorting mirrors. Once you step away, things look quite different. Regards, Micha ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library
More use-case driven development and improved GUIs, user experience and map production fall under specific topics at FOSS4G 2008 so this discussion is quite apt and I hope to see its fruit or at least some well-defined plans presented and discussed in Cape Town in September. As we know these are some of the remaining gaps that need filling to convince the hesitant masses to go open source. Gavin Fleming MSc, Pr. GISc Technologist Senior GISc and Sustainable Development Researcher FOSS4G2008 conference chair Mintek, 200 Malibongwe Drive (formerly Hans Strijdom Drive) P/Bag X3015, Randburg, 2125, South Africa w: +27-11-709-4668 c: 0845965680 f: 0866164820 xmpp (Jabber, Google Talk, etc.): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: phlemingo 27.9782E 26.0896S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) Sent: Mon 2008/04/07 06:36 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal: OSGeo Cartographic Library On 7-Apr-08, at 1:53 AM, Markus Neteler wrote: I would like to launch the idea of an OSGeo Cartographic Library to share concepts, source code and regression tests: Thanks Markus - you beat me to it! :) Having grown up learning ArcPlot, I long for the ability to compose maps and output them in a high-quality plotter-ready format. Also, I miss the ability to script the creation of maps which is needed in many industrial or highly-productive mapping environments (e.g. GUI- based map design tools are the bane of productivity in many offices I've been in). I'll add my notes to the wiki and start to use the discussion page too. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss winmail.dat___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] How about gis education in western country?
There are a few universities in South Africa that I know of that offer dedicated GIS courses and degrees from undergraduate through to postgraduate: Stellenbosch: www.sun.ac.za http://www.sun.ac.za/ and http://academic.sun.ac.za/geology/undergraduate/geography_e.htm Pretoria: www.up.ac.za http://www.up.ac.za/ and http://www.up.ac.za/academic/gis/upgis.htm Cape Town: Click on Degree Programmes at http://www.geomatics.uct.ac.za/ The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg (Wits): http://web.wits.ac.za/Academic/Science/Geography/ Port Elizabeth and Pretoria offer the international UNIGIS distance learning degree courses: Pretoria [EMAIL PROTECTED] Port Elizabeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gavin Fleming MSc, Pr. GISc Technologist Senior GISc and Sustainable Development Researcher FOSS4G2008 http://www.foss4g2008.org/ conference chair Mintek, 200 Malibongwe Drive (formerly Hans Strijdom Drive) P/Bag X3015, Randburg, 2125, South Africa w: +27-11-709-4668 c: 0845965680 f: 0866164820 xmpp: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: phlemingo 27.9782E 26.0896S From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of broad sky Sent: 28 March 2008 05:20 PM To: Discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] How about gis education in western country? Hi all, I want to know the situation about gis education in wester country.Which college has setup gis as a specialty? Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http:/tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearc h/category.php?category=shopping ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education
While Venka is on the topic of packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu, I'd like to put a niche request / challenge to the community. High schools in South Africa and elsewhere need a FOSS alternative to use and teach GIS, which is a compulsory part of the syllabus from this year. FOSS GIS at present is too inaccessible. My challenge is to have a packaged CD for Ubuntu to launch at FOSS4G2008 in Cape Town. This CD (or DVD) would have: -one-click installation for Linux, Windows or Mac. -Integrated software stack so teachers and learners have to launch a minimal number of applications -Simplified and customised GUIs to lower the entry threshold. -for teachers to teach curriculum requirements of GIS -for teachers to use GIS to teach geography and other subjects -for learners to use for hands-on work -Free, integrated global and local data package -excellent documentation -framework for local contributors to structure and contribute exercises, lessons, etc. -central website for resources -possible advanced options for network deployment, more sophisticated users, 'computer studies' learners (i.e. developers), school web map services, etc. Any takers? Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: 26 October 2007 05:19 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Cc: Sarawut Ninsawat Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Matt Perry's post on Ubuntu/GIS has gaineda lot of attention Hi Hendra, We are starting to look into packaging OSGeo software stack for Ubuntu using the AptonCD packaging tool (http://aptoncd.sourceforge.net/). We are in the process of learning to package software for Unbuntu. If any others are interested in working on this, we would be glad to join. Kind regards Venka .. Oops, looks like I've forgotten the urls =] Spatially Adjusted (James Fee): http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com/2007/10/22/create-gis-workstation-using -ubuntu-and-open-source-gis-software Matt Perry: http://www.perrygeo.net/wordpress/?p=10 And: BR-Linux =] http://br-linux.org/linux/configurando-um-ambiente-de-sistema-de-informa cao-geografica-com-o-ubuntu ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal Software Translation Portal
I wonder if an organisation like www.translate.org.za would want to get involved, say by: - offering their facilities for FOSS GIS translations - helping out with FOSS GIS translations through OSGeo channels - extending their model beyond South African languages ? Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Markus Neteler Sent: 21 September 2007 08:05 AM To: OSGeo-discuss Cc: GRASS translations Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal Software Translation Portal Hi, as you may know, some of the OSGeo software projects come with translated messages. E.g. GRASS has been translated (partially) into more than 10 languages. We (GRASS) have a dedicated mailing list for this and a translation manager who takes care of synchronization, update and message standardization. So far - so nice. But. We could gain more translators with a Web based solution (think rainy day and you just want to translate 10 messages and don't want to mess around with .po files from CVS and so forth). Our suggestion is to set up a Web based solution for all interested OSGeo projects (e.g. using pootle). To better brainstorm on that, we have made a Wiki page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Software_Translation_Portal Comments welcome, Markus Neteler Stefano Costa -- Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/ http://osgeo.org/grass ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G and conservation
Great to hear Wolf If you and others who are willing and able to do the sort of support and education you mention can make it to FOSS4G2008 in South Africa, you'd be welcomed. We are planning outreach activities which will need volunteers from the conference. These will be at universities and schools their aims include exactly what you propose. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wolf Bergenheim Sent: 31 August 2007 09:31 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G and conservation On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Ned Horning wrote: I'd like to hear from anyone but I'm particularly interested in hearing from people with connections outside of North America. I'm definitely interested in helping out. Both as a support person for GRASS GIS and helping in preparing education material. I'd also be willing to give actual courses, and lectures about GRASS GIS, and why not other products too, but I need to learn a bit more (I'm familiar with PostGIS). On the same note I've been thinking about asking the local universities who teach GIS mainly by using ESRI products (and frankly they have a bit of a problem doing it, since they can only have so and so many computers etc...) if they would be interested in learning how to do it with Open Source software. The individual teachers seem to be interested, but I'd be interested in a policy level answer. I think that ans OSGeo provided support network would help with this also. --Wolf -- :3 ) Wolf Bergenheim ( 8: ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G and conservation
Hi Ned Refer to my mail to Wolf about 'connections outside North America'. In our outreach programme at FOSS4G2008, Conservation GIS with FOSS could be a big thing on the agenda. There are many members of SCGIS in (South) Africa. In South Africa alone, conservation planning with C-Plan and Marxan are becoming institutionalised activities. FOSS GIS backends for tools like these would be an excellent alternative. One route into the OSGeo community in Africa is to join the Africa list at http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ned Horning Sent: 31 August 2007 04:43 PM To: 'OSGeo Discussions' Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G and conservation Frank Warmerdam wrote: I'd like to see OSGeo support socially relavent organizations in use of open source software This is along the lines of what I'm working on so I figure this is a good time to chime in to get feedback. I'm involved in a discussion between the Society for Conservation GIS (SCGIS) and the Society for Conservation Biology (SCB) to enhance an international Conservation GIS training program sponsored by SCGIS. The SCGIS has a scholarship program that brings international conservation practitioners to the States to receive ESRI training, ESRI software, attend the ESRI conference, and sometimes get free hardware. It is a great program but it's costly and only meets a fraction of the demand. In principle having an SCB/SCGIS partnership is a good idea but it shouldn't be ESRI-centric. I talked about OSGeo and this seemed to raise some interest (curiosity?) but I sense skepticism. The (inaccurate) perception that ESRI will donate software to any conservation group, largely negating advantages of FOSS4G, doesn't help. The SCB has over 10,000 members and I think this could be a great opportunity for OSGeo to increase global exposure and possibly use it to solicit grant money to support training and software development around the world. SCGIS has a small international network of user groups that can be used to expand this program and I'm trying to figure out if OSGeo could help build a similar or partnered network for open source offerings. The OSGeo education committee members are creating course materials that will be leveraged for this conservation-focused training. I addition to that we need to develop a network of trainers. How much interest is there among the OSGeo community/user groups to support and provide conservation-focused geospatial training? I'd like to hear from anyone but I'm particularly interested in hearing from people with connections outside of North America. Distance learning methods would help overcome the problem of distributing this training globally but there is a strong interest in sponsoring in-person workshops in addition to on-line offerings. Our group at the AMNH is working on addressing both of these needs. Any feedback is appreciated. All the best, Ned -- Center for Biodiversity and Conservation American Museum of Natural History Central Park West @ 79th St New York, NY 10024 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: 212-313-7947 fax: 212-769-5292 Home office tel: 802-382-9080 Web site: http://geospatial.amnh.org/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity
On Jo's last point re funding travel expenses, this would be a huge benefit for getting deserving delegates who don't have the means to Cape Town next year and other conferences in future. Perhaps a merit- and means- based application process could be applied. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Walsh Sent: 30 August 2007 12:20 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity dear Howard, thanks for your email which has been along with its responses very thought-provoking, On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 10:18:36PM -0700, Dave Patton wrote: Howard Butler wrote: Most of OSGeo's measurable successes to date have been volunteer efforts, not primarily financially-backed ones. The OSGeo Journal effort, Google Summer of Code administration, the Geodata committee's efforts, and even much of our system administration to keep the lights on for developer tools Well, these are quite different kinds of efforts. The Journal has come together because of Tyler's time invested in it, so it is more or less direct financial backing from OSGeo. The SoC programme, look forward to hear more about the eventual experiences of, but that came about in the first place because of direct Google financial support to students. The Geodata committee's efforts have been more like what you describe about software projects coming together - a byproduct of a set of interconnected people each scratching their own itches. But being more loose collaboration than planned action it is a bit impenetrable to those outside the immediate loop, i think. And geodata and systems administration have overlapped quite a bit, as people get shanghaied into helping with different problems ;) But keeping the lights on, and creating new things, are quite different. One burns out on doing administrative / organising things and i wish there were a way that could be automated and/or shared. The structure we have now with one Committee Chair per committee, one gets into overcommitment/guilt and superfluous soul-searching. benefactor as we do now. We're almost two years down the road into bootstrapping, and our majority benefactor situation has budged very little. As far as I know, our only significant incoming sponsorship dollars beyond Autodesk are the targeted development vehicles like those that pay for a permanent maintainer for GDAL. This definitely seems something the Board should be talking about, the whole question of what sponsors are visibly getting and what can be done to get them involved, and at what should we aim. I have added a few notes to the Agenda section for the next meeting right before FOSS4G and i would urge anyone to add their concerns so it can be refined - re-framed? - nearer the time... http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Board_Meeting_FOSS4G2007#Agenda There has certainly been a lot of volunteer effort by the organizers of the FOSS4G 2007 conference It is terrific to see so much effort and I am really looking forward to getting to see it realised, taking lots of pictures, sending press releases etc. At the same time i am having to beg and borrow to get to Victoria and I know many, many others from outside North America for whom the combination of long flight and cost of living disparity is just too large a barrier. Something else i would like to add to the Board's discussion is the possibility of funding either travel expenses or better, several smaller conferences distributed around the planet, next year... cheers, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity
An excellent book that tells the FOSS story and explores its value propositions and business models is 'The Success of Open Source' by Steven Weber, who writes from the perspective of an 'outsider', a political scientist. Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Kishor Sent: 29 August 2007 05:40 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity Very well written Howard. In tribute to your writing, I will promptly snitch some ideas from your writing below. I have been tackling this issue of selling open geospatial, particularly to agencies for whom generally financial cost is a non-issue. I try to tell them that in most classes open source is the best-of-class technologies no matter what yardstick you measure it against. The defining characteristic, of course, is the mob-intelligence quotient. But how do you measure the quality of knowledge produced collaboratively? There is no gross salary number that can be divided by the staff hours. There is no cash-flow, free money, ROE of the contributors... there is return on investment that can be measured, but usually only after the investment. SLOCs (source line of code) is one measure, but in the world which strives to write as few lines of code to accomplish a task, usually a measure of better software, fewer SLOC would actually be a better indicator of the quality. If someone can condense the qualities of open source to a sound-bite, that would be great, but I have been unable to do so. I find that there is a story behind open source, and that story takes time telling, particularly to those who are not familiar with it. For that, one needs to cultivate relationships so folks can become willing to give their time to listen to the story. I have been shaping my story along the lines of technology, law, and culture. Open source, unlike other forms of knowledge-production, has innovated along all of these three axes... novel forms of technologies created through novel forms of technologies, innovative legal regimes that are continuously evolving participatively, and a culture, an ethos, that fundamentally believes that sharing is better than not sharing. On 8/29/07, Howard Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open source software works because people acting in their own self interest have the auxiliary benefit of helping everyone in the project. Report your pet bug, file a patch, add a new feature -- all of these things immediately help you, but ultimately help the project. This activity also imparts tangential benefits that are very hard to quantify but can be clearly important like personal visibility, credibility, and status. For an open source software project to be viable as a development entity, it must be able to bestow these benefits to its individual contributors. Everyone's reasons may be different, but people must be able to receive a return on their sweat equity that they put in or volunteer effort will not continue to flow into a project. I think that recognition and facilitation of this symbiosis is a blind spot for OSGeo. We should be striving to ensure that it can take place because we are a volunteer organization whose members have common goals. Wait a second? Isn't OSGeo an Autodesk thing with lots of money? How is it a volunteer organization? Most of OSGeo's measurable successes to date have been volunteer efforts, not primarily financially-backed ones. The OSGeo Journal effort, Google Summer of Code administration, the Geodata committee's efforts, and even much of our system administration to keep the lights on for developer tools like Subversion/Trac have been volunteer enterprises (please help flesh out this list, these are only those I am most aware of, I know there have been many others). However, I think financial resources, both in the capacity to generate sponsorship money and the ability to spend it wisely, are what provides the opportunity to set OSGeo apart and provide the volunteerism leverage. When Autodesk came in and helped bootstrap OSGeo, it was fairly clear that our financial existence would not be an indefinite expenditure -- we would have to exist on our own. Additionally, to meet 503c3 requirements, we cannot have a situation where we have a majority benefactor as we do now. We're almost two years down the road into bootstrapping, and our majority benefactor situation has budged very little. As far as I know, our only significant incoming sponsorship dollars beyond Autodesk are the targeted development vehicles like those that pay for a permanent maintainer for GDAL. Another aspect is the sweat equity that has been poured into OSGeo over the past year and a half. Committee members, board members, and of course, especially Frank Warmerdam have been spending a lot of time bootstrapping. The opportunity cost of this effort has not been insignificant. I think it is time we take a step back
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] how many open source gis in the world
And another, different UbuntuGIS project! http://gforge2.uwc.ac.za/projects/ubuntugis/ Gavin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gao_Ang Sent: 19 July 2007 08:48 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how many open source gis in the world broad sky: I suggest you have a glimpse on Ubuntu GIS ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGIS ) and Debian GIS project ( http://wiki.debian.org/DebianGis ) The above projects have an unofficial repository of Open Source GIS related packages with up-to-date stable versions. And these distributions will make full use of GIS applications for users as well as provide GIS repository for us. All the best. 2007-07-19 09:46:12 you wrote: Hi Ciao Jeroen: Thank you .I don't want to kown how much these applications are used around the world.I want to know how many open source gis softwares have been developed around the world and information about these softwares such as supported OS ,develope language etc. Broad Sky = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Gao_Ang [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-07-19 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo education outreach at FOSS4G2007
We're putting in a bid to host FOSS4G2008 in South Africa and educational outreach is a major component of our programme. Gavin GISSA Open Source SIG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Patton Sent: 18 July 2007 04:31 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo education outreach at FOSS4G2007 Has there been any discussion, by the OSGeo Education Committee or elsewhere, about doing any education outreach in conjunction with the FOSS4G2007 conference in Victoria? In particular, I had the idea that on Friday September 28, 2007, there may be the possibility for people who attended the conference to do some outreach. Looking at the minutes of the last Education Committee meeting, I see mention of post-secondary education, but I wonder if there exists the possibility of educational opportunities for Victoria K-12 schools(OK, maybe K is a bit young, but you get my point :-) -- Dave Patton Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ FOSS4G2007: Workshop Committee Conference Committee http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss