[OSGeo-Discuss] Canadian Chocolate

[Ian Turton via Discuss]

Did you or your spouse have a conversation with Jody Garnet at a recent
FOSS4G about a type of Canadian chocolate bar you really liked but couldn't
get where you live - if so can you remind Jody of the type and who you are.
Meanwhile my wife and I will eat the Canadian Crunchy bar he brought to
Italy thinking it was us who he spoke to about it.

Ian

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.21.0 Release

[Ian Turton via Discuss]

The GeoServer team is pleased to announce the release of the latest version
of GeoServer 2.21.0 which is made in conjunction with GeoTools 27.0 and
GeoWebCache 1.21.0. There are many improvements and fixes in this new
version and users are encouraged to upgrade as soon as possible.

Full details can be found at
https://geoserver.org/announcements/2022/05/24/geoserver-2-21-0-released.html
and the war can be downloaded from https://geoserver.org/release/stable/

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.18.0 Released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoServer team is happy to announce the release of the latest version
(2.18.0), there is lots of detail on what is included and where to download
it at GeoServer's new blog site -
http://geoserver.org/announcements/2020/09/26/geoserver-2-18-0-released.html

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G 2020 - Halifax site causing confusion

[Ian Turton]

It seems that in the short term the best thing to do is for all of us to
link to the official site and make sure that Google notices this - I've
updated the link on gis.stackexchange accordingly. May be some
converted tweeting and blog posting will help sway the algorithm.

Ian

On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 at 22:14, Jonathan Neufeld 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I apologize for sending this through the Conference_Dev list, however I’ve
> been trying to reach Jeff McKenna for the past month with no success. If I
> am out of line here, please let me know.
>
>
>
> Jeff - I’m following up again on my request to take down your Halifax
> FOSS4G site at https://foss4g.ca/.
>
>
>
> As I have previously mentioned, the Halifax site is causing confusion with
> some members of the community.
>
>
>
> In the spirit of open collaboration and building towards a successful
> event, we are *requesting that you take down the site for Halifax 2020
> which is making a false claim of hosting FOSS4G 2020 and sowing confusion
> amongst potential participants.*
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> JONATHAN NEUFELD
>
> CO-CHAIR
>
> FOSS4G 2020 CALGARY
>
> http://2020.foss4g.org/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Unable to access the geotools Maven repository

[Ian Turton]

If you are using GeoTools please make sure you are subscribed to the
GeoTools user list (https://geotools.org/getinvolved.html) where this was
posted:


Jody Garnett via <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en-GB>
lists.sourceforge.net
05:58 (5 hours ago)
to GeoTools, GeoTools
Please note that osgeo maven repo is under maintenance as "downloads" moves
to a new server.

See https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2261 for latest status.



Ian

On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 11:08, Michele Dallachiesa <
michele.dallachi...@minodes.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> The Maven repository at http://download.osgeo.org/webdav/geotools/ asks
> for user/password since Today and this is breaking our dependency on
> GeoTools. This repository is still referenced in the official documentation
> at
>  http://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/tutorial/quickstart/maven.html
>
> Is this a server configuration issue? Am I missing something?
>
> Thank You in advance,
>
> Best
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Flickr FOSS4G and OSGeo photo history deadline Feb 5th

[Ian Turton]

I'm using https://github.com/helenst/flickr-backup to back my photos up.

Ian

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 05:19, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Last chance to see this slice of our history:
>
> - https://www.flickr.com/groups/osgeo/
> - https://www.flickr.com/groups/foss4g/
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 19:58, Jody Garnett  wrote:
>
>> As covered on discuss a couple months ago, And covered in the board
>> meeting on Monday:
>>
>> Our OSGeo, FOSS4G and FOSS4G-NA photos on flicker may be reduced on Feb
>> 5th as some photos are removed.
>>
>> Since these photos were shared with our groups we do not really know
>> which ones will be removed. Photographers are asked to subscribe with a
>> monthly fee (or have a limit of 1000 photos).
>>
>> It is not really possible for us as a group to do much, which is a shame
>> for the internet as Flickr has a wide range of CC images (since they did a
>> good job of explaining open licenses and making them easily to use.)
>>
>> Q: Can we throw the images on OSGeo next cloud?
>>
>> Q: Should we only copy the CC images? Or should we copy everything and
>> try and reach authors before sharing?
>>
>> Aside: Many participants missed the CC license step - which is too bad as
>> it is a good “first time” experience at contributing open content.
>>
>> Q: Anyone know of an API we could use to grab our images?
>>
>> Q: Any other Flickr groups we should capture for our history?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage

[Ian Turton]

It seems that the "members" page (https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/)
is picking it's picture up from the other pictures section not gravatar
which is what the actual member page (
https://www.osgeo.org/member/ian-turton/) uses. This is probably why so
many people have no picture on the members page.

Ian
PS I notice the page title is still in Dutch (?) and my local chapters have
gone missing again.


On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 19:17, Barry Rowlingson 
wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 6:51 PM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
> >
> > Your feedback makes me think we should hide entries that don’t have a
> photo.
> >
> > My thinking is part of the point of the website is to show that open
> source is made by people. Pages and pages of placeholder photos make us
> look like the faceless mob that protential adopters are told to fear to
> trust.
> >
> > Would rather fewer people with real faces from an outreach standpoint.
>
> +1, or at least don't show an anonymous icon for people with no image.
>
> Also, I don't understand why I don't have a face on that page, but I
> do on my page: https://www.osgeo.org/member/rowlingson/ - so I have to
> upload a profile picture in two places?
>
> Barry
>
>
> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 2:50 AM Tom Chadwin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Disagree with Barry - I do like it. However, I do think the
> high-contrast design means the placeholders can overpower the actual
> photos. I would definitely knock back the darkness of the background
> colour, and probably knock back the whole thing a fair bit. I'm thinking
> that the palette should reflect a disabled icon or menu item in a GUI, so
> be faded. Other than that, I really like it.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of
> Barry
> >> > Rowlingson
> >> > Sent: 22 January 2019 08:36
> >> > To: Vicky Vergara
> >> > Cc: OSGeo Discuss list
> >> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender neutral default image on webpage
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 4:53 AM Vicky Vergara 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello all
> >> > > I made a gender neutral default image representing an OSGeo member.
> >> > > Hope you like it.
> >> >
> >> > Not sure I do like it! The head is so large compared to the body, and
> >> > the body so devoid of feature I don't immediately read it as an
> >> > abstract human representation. I'm almost reading it as a lower-case
> >> > 'i'. Plus the logo is ever so slightly off-center from the circle
> >> > which is triggering my OCD tendencies a bit.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe if the body was a bit larger and connected to the head. It is a
> >> > very bold and high-contrast design, and appears very large on the page
> >> > so the overall impact is quite massive. Maybe if the icons were
> >> > smaller it wouldn't matter so much, but as the page is currently my
> >> > browser shows only four people on a screen at once, and most of that
> >> > is avatars and fairly empty squares with names in. Sorry if I've
> >> > drifted off topic into the web page design now
> >> >
> >> >  Happy to tweak it a bit if you've got an Inkscape SVG to share.
> >> >
> >> > Barry
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On this page
> >> > > https://www.osgeo.org/community/members/
> >> > > The image is shown when the member does not have an libavatar .
> (work
> >> > in progress, on displaying the uploaded image on this page)
> >> > >
> >> > > On the profile page, the
> >> > > libavatar  takes precedence
> >> > > if not found then uploaded image
> >> > > if not found then the default image is used
> >> > >
> >> > > Regards
> >> > > Vicky
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > Georepublic UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
> >> > > Salzmannstraße 44,
> >> > > 81739 München, Germany
> >> > >
> >> > > Vicky Vergara
> >> > > Operations Research
> >> > >
> >> > > eMail: vi...@georepublic.de
> >> > > Web: https://georepublic.info
> >> > >
> >> > > Tel: +49 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code of Conduct... followup to avoid lobbies

[Ian Turton]

Plus if someone can be bothered to go to the lengths required to form a
lobby they are probably more likely to interact with the foundation than
the majority of our membership, which is probably a good thing and
certainly one I'm prepared to risk.

Ian

On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 10:27, Hans Gregers Hedegaard Petersen <
greg...@septima.dk> wrote:

> Hi Luigi,
>
> Yes, I have a trust in our members, and also trust that they would speak
> up their concerns if they saw a problem (of any kind) with a nomination.
>
> Best,
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 at 11:18, Luigi Pirelli  wrote:
>
>> let me rephrase, your suggestion is that, with the actual rule, in case
>> of "lobby", other member should rise the exception for a specified
>> candidate?
>> Luigi Pirelli
>>
>>
>> **
>> * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigipirelli
>> * Stackexchange: http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/19667/luigi-pirelli
>> * GitHub: https://github.com/luipir
>> * Mastering QGIS 2nd Edition:
>> *
>> https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/mastering-qgis-second-edition
>> * Hire me: http://goo.gl/BYRQKg
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] UK Devs planning on attending 2018 Java code sprint

[Ian Turton]

If you are UK (or near European neighbours) based java developer and have
an interest in attending the upcoming Java code sprint in the week of
October 22-26th <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Java_2018_Code_Sprint> but
felt you couldn't travel to Italy or didn't want to work remotely on your
own then you are warmly invited to come to Astun Technology
<https://astuntechnology.com/>'s Epsom office for the week and hang out
with me and Jo Cook.

If this appeals to you then please add yourself to the wiki page and put
Epsom as your location, if you'd like details of accommodation etc send me
an email.

Cheers

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.12.4 released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoServer team are happy to announce the release of GeoServer 2.12.4,
this is the final planned release in this maintenance branch, users are
recommended to start planning their move to a newer branch as soon as
possible. This release is made in conjunction with GeoTools 18.4 and
GeoWebCache 1.12.4.

See the blog post
<http://blog.geoserver.org/2018/06/20/geoserver-2-12-4-release/> for more
details of the bugs fixed in this release.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoTools 18.4 released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoTools team is delighted to announce the release of GeoTools 18.4,
this is the final planned release of this branch and users should consider
migrating away from it in the near future.

See the blog post
<http://geotoolsnews.blogspot.com/2018/06/geotools-184-released.html> for
more details.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

[Ian Turton]

On 25 February 2018 at 19:16, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> +1 (for ‘not the only one’)
>
> It is good to receive support, I am not contesting that.
>
> But this issue seems worthy of considered discussion.
>

ESRI payed for (I understand from Frank) some of the initial development of
GDAL/OGR, with out which much of our software would be much more difficult
to implement.

While I am happy to attack ESRI for thier bussiness methods (of the crack
dealer type) I see no problem with taking thier money to sponsor our
events, it's even bettet if they come and talk with us, show us what they
have been upto in the open source world and for them to see what we've been
up to. We also take money from other "evil" empires like IBM, Google, etc
with out any worries that I can recall.

Plus ESRI have those nicely ironic dinosaur stickers.


> Even OGC receives considerable funding from ESRI, further complicating the
> issue.
>

Why would the OGC not have ESRI as a member? Its an industry standards
consortium.  If I have an issue it is that ESRI, ESRI UK, ESRI Canada etc
are all voting memembers.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[Ian Turton]

Switching this to the GeoServer Devel list.

We always encourage people to discuss major changes to GeoServer to discuss
them here before they start as there is a much better chance of it being
accepted into the code base and to avoid over lapping and wasted work.

Patrick, please let us know what changes you (NASA) are proposing.

Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 16:20, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Our GeoPackage work to facilitate that via GeoServer is extensive and
> carefully architected. And we’ve discovered some other good things that
> would certainly advance GeoServer.
>
> https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindServerKit
>
>
>
> NASA is prepared to work with someone close to GeoServer for these
> features and improvements to be ‘folded-in.’ We are glad to coordinate with
> a most appropriate person who would take the lead in that effort.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 7:56 AM
>
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
> You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores?
> See http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-
> about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html for the
> discussion.
>
> But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always
> welcome new developers.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.
>
>
>
> We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit
> GeoServer and the larger community.
>
>
>
> For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to
> accomplish that, we would be delighted.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> (650) 604-5656 (o)
>
> (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
> Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
> http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
> http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
>
> There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support
> at reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[Ian Turton]

You know that the latest GeoServers use GeoPackages as core datastores? See
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Crazy-idea-what-about-GeoPackage-straight-in-core-for-2-12-td5329361.html
for the discussion.

But please do pitch in with both GeoServer and GeoTools dev we always
welcome new developers.

Ian

On 14 February 2018 at 15:22, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> NASA is working to advance GeoServer to accommodate GeoPackage.
>
>
>
> We are certainly glad to share ALL of our work in order to benefit
> GeoServer and the larger community.
>
>
>
> For that to occur, if GeoTools is interested in coordinating with us to
> accomplish that, we would be delighted.
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> (650) 604-5656 (o)
>
> (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
>
> *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:54 AM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* br...@frogmouth.net; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
>
>
>
> Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
> Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
> http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
> http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html
>
> There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support
> at reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/
>
>
>
> Ian
>
> On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind

[Ian Turton]

Actually, that would be the GeoTools and GeoServer Programme
Steering/Management committees, both of whom welcome contributions -
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/developer/procedures/contribute.html &
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/introduction/gettinginvolved.html

There are several companies that can provide you with commercial support at
reasonable rates if you need help - http://geoserver.org/support/


Ian
On 14 February 2018 at 13:27, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:

> Brad,
>
> If the primary entity advancing GeoServer (Boundless?) would like to work
> with us, we would be delighted to coordinate that contribution.
>
> -Patrick
>  (650) 604-5656 (o)
>  (650) 269-2788 (c)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: br...@frogmouth.net [mailto:br...@frogmouth.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); 'OSGeo Discussions'
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] ESA-NASA WebWorldWind
>
> Hello Patrick,
>
> Can I ask if there are any plans to contribute back the forked geoserver
> and geotools parts?
>
> Brad
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My feelings about board elections

[Ian Turton]

I've spent much of the day thinking that I will just let this thread pass
me by as I don't have the physical or emotional energy to jump into this.
But I'm going to fire off an email because I'm getting angry!

I would like everyone to stop denigrating our new board before they have
done anything, or even had a chance to meet. I have to object to the
assumption that a board member will only act in the interests of their
region or that we the charter members make our choices on race, gender or
regional preferences. I think this runs our organisation down. There is no
reason that any region will not get a fair hearing from the board no matter
how it is geographically distributed.

Now I would like to make it clear that I voted based on my knowledge of
people (and personalities) and the **work** they do on open source projects
or groups that I use. So if you would like my vote to go to your region
please start building software or communities that are seen to be useful.


I would really like this to be the year that we see a lot more building and
a lot less whinging on this (and other) lists.

Ian
(one of the Charter members who no one voted for)

PS - can people please observe some basic netiquette when replying to
emails, trim the to list and delete the old parts of the message.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.12.0 released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoServer team are happy to announce the release of GeoServer 2.12.0 as
the new stable release based on GeoTools 18.0.

This release sees the results of the 2017 Code Sprint upgrade of the REST
API from Restlet to Spring MVC. It also now provides the ability to cascade
WMST servers in the same way that WMS cascading has always worked. Many
other improvements and bug fixes are included, please see the blog post
<http://blog.geoserver.org/2017/10/17/geoserver-2-12-0-released/> for full
details.

As a result of this release, versions 2.10.x are no longer automatically
supported and anyone using this (or older) versions is strongly encouraged
to upgrade at this time. Version 2.11.x is now the maintenance release and
will only be receiving bug fixes rather than new features, users using
these versions should consider using the next 6 months to test and upgrade
to 2.12.x.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoTools 18.0 Released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoTools team is happy to announce the release of the new stable
version of the GeoTools library. See the blog post
<http://geotoolsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2017/10/geotools-180-released.html> for
further details. This new release contains a new WMTS datastore and many
fixes and improvements to the GeoPackage store.

As a result of this new release, the 17.x branch becomes the maintenance
branch and the 16.x branch ceases to be maintained by default. All users
are advised to make the upgrade as soon as possible.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Torben Barsballe

[Ian Turton]

+1 from me

Ian

On 29 August 2017 at 00:35, Kevin Smith <smit...@draconic.ca> wrote:

> Seconded
>
> On 8/28/17 19:27, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> > Forwarding Torben Barsballe nomination by Jody Garnett. The 2017
> > member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vasile & Jeff
> > 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> >
> >
> >  Forwarded Message 
> > Subject: Nomination of Torben Barsballe
> > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 15:58:15 -0700
> > From: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
> > To: Chief Returning Officer <c...@osgeo.org>
> > CC: Torben Barsballe <tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com>, Kevin Smith
> > <smit...@draconic.ca>
> >
> >
> >
> > Torben Barsballe is an amazing addition to the Java Tribe, in just a
> > few short years Torben is one of the top committers[1] on the
> > GeoServer project! Torben a dedicated and professional member of our
> > community reviewing pull-requests, participating in code sprints, and
> > taking lead on the occasional monthly release. His dedication shows -
> > even going so far as to attending the bi-weekly PSC meetings (despite
> > not having a vote.)
> >
> > Torben is an advocate for open source, speaking at local Victoria
> > GeoGeek events, regional foss4g-na events, and two global foss4g
> > evetns. Torben is a kind instructor offering workshops at the local
> > University of Victoria, and at the gloabl foss4g events. For foss4g
> > 2017 he painstakingly reviewed the osgeo brochure, manning the OSGeo
> > booth answering questions, and helping new contributors during the
> > code sprint.
> >
> > It is a pleasure to honour such a wonderful member of our community
> > with this nomination.
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/graphs/contributors
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

[Ian Turton]

When we met up in Chicago to set up OSGEO the desire was to be as inclusive
as possible. I donate alot of time to OSGEO when I could be doing something
fun like coding and I'm getting fed up with charter members popping up on
the mailing lists and complaining about stuff that they haven't done
anything about.

I want people to come to the OSGEO website to find out about any and all
open source spatial software, if this worries you then please work to make
your software better rather than trying to avoid the competition or go and
set up another website that matches your dreams of how the world should be.

Ian

On 18 Aug 2017 14:47, "Jeffrey Johnson"  wrote:

Just for clarity and background. We announced the project form on discuss
and imported the results/submissions of that form. There hasn't been any
process other than that up to now.

For the record, I'm very much in favor of a "big tent" approach. If a
software had an OSI approved license and deals with geospatial data, I
believe it should have "some" place on our site. This is the approach that
FOSS4G takes and I believe it is very successful for that very reason.

I think we can pretty easily establish a set of criteria that can be used
to make this determination. Whatever approach we take, we should be very
clear what the criteria are.

Glad to be having this discussion.

Jeff

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:43 Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:

> And istSOS :-)
>
> Il 18 ago 2017 5:25 PM, "Sandro Santilli"  ha scritto:
>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
>>
>> > Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
>>
>> This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
>> against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

[Ian Turton]

I have to disagree here, to me it is clear that OSGeo is presenting
("owns") the conference while by listing the contributions the OSGeo
provides (seed money etc) formally on the Sponsors' page/list it makes it
clear just how much money (and time) the OSGeo is putting it into the
event.

By formally listing as a sponsor it probably makes it easier to handle
things like remembering to allocate booth space, passes etc as it is
already on the spreadsheet when those tasks are carried out.

Ian

On 2 July 2017 at 09:22, Massimiliano Cannata <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
> wrote:

> Dear community and board members,
> Today I found out that OSGeo is a a SPONSOR of the FOSS4G-2017 Boston
> conference.
>
> This is disappointing me !
>
> At least for two reasons:
>
> 1- foss4g is the OSGeo's conference, so OSGeo is the host not a guest
> (have you ever seen AGU sponsoring it's annual event?)
>
> 2- OSGeo is already providing seed and risk exposure money so it shouldn't
> need to pay for get exposure or being listed in the sponsor page.
>
> So, as an OSGeo charter member, I formally ask the board to remove OSGeo
> from the sponsor list !
>
> Regards
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.10.3 released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoServer team are happy to announce the release of GeoServer 2.10.3
the latest maintenance release. All versions can be downloaded from
https://sourceforge.net/projects/geoserver/files/GeoServer/2.10.3/

See the blog post (
http://blog.geoserver.org/2017/04/24/geoserver-2-10-3-released/) for full
details of the release.

Ian Turton

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] easiest setup on Windows

[Ian Turton]

look at the qgis2web plugin see
https://anitagraser.com/2015/10/01/quick-webmaps-with-qgis2web/

video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBdWNT40T9g

Ian

On 15 December 2016 at 16:58, Siki Zoltan <s...@agt.bme.hu> wrote:

> Dear Puneet,
>
> I would offer your friends OSGeo4W. Apache, server and client side GIS are
> included (optionally installable), easy update/install.
> PostgreSQL/PostGIS not included.
>
> Regards,
> Zoltan
>
>
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2016, P Kishor wrote:
>
> hello OSGeo,
>>
>
> I am helping some friends migrate their work to a real GIS (from a
> hodgepodge of AutoCad and MS-Excel spreadsheets). Unfortunately, for me,
> they use Windows (the last time I used Windows was 1997). I will try and
> convince them to start using some kind of Linux, at least for their
> geospatial needs, but assuming I can˙˙t, what is the easiest way to get
> them started with web mapping?
>
> Fwiw, I am installing PostGIS for them and outfitting them with QGIS. So,
> the desktop/datastore part is covered. But I don˙˙t have time to build a
> full fledged Leaflet app. Is there something I can install on a Windows
> machine that will read data from PostGIS and serve it on the web, and allow
> some level of customization of the interface?
>
> (Sadly, I don˙˙t even know what version of Windows they are using, but I
> recall it had a lot of bouncy windows so it must be one of the newer
> versions.)
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Edu] Web cartography, SLD

[Ian Turton]

On 1 December 2016 at 18:44, stefan steiniger  wrote:

> t its not about SLD. For SLD it may be best to check the GeoServer
> Documentation directly
> http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/styling/sld/cookbook/
>
> Although it also turns out that only half of the stuff is documented if I
> follow the GeoServer user list correctly ;).
>
>
What gives you that impression? if there is something missing feel free to
add it (all our documentation is freely editable).

Ian
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.10.0 released

[Ian Turton]

The GeoServer team is delighted to announce the release
<http://geoserver.org/release/2.10.0/> of GeoServer 2.10.0 (
http://geoserver.org/release/2.10.0/) - this release includes a security fix
<https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOT-5514> so please consider
upgrading to 2.10.0 or 2.9.2 as soon as possible. The arrival of the 2.10.x
branch moves the 2.8.x release out of maintenance so if you are still using
that we recommend that you upgrade as soon as possible.

There are too many new and exciting features to list in an email so please
check out the blog post
<http://blog.geoserver.org/2016/10/31/geoserver-2-10-0-released/> for all
of them.

Ian
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

[Ian Turton]

Marco,

I think you have missed the point of my tales, both the projects that I
wrote about are open source (by any definition) but only the one with an
open organisation is thriving.

OSGeo is designed to support open and sustainable development of geospatial
solutions. A benevolent dictatorship is a fragile model of governance and
so can not be acceptable to us as a foundation.

The (perceived) quality of the software is of no importance in this
discussion if the project fails due to a lack of community.

Ian

PS open hub notes geotools has 241 contributors if we are measuring success
in these metrics.
On 15 May 2016 14:40, "Marco Afonso"  wrote:

> Hi Anita,
>
> Aha! So there is a ponderation weight on software quality evaluation AND
> project organization evaluation.
>
> So you can exclude an open source software with high quality if their
> organization evaluation is low.
>
> For me that seems wrong. A software on a public repository is only limited
> by it's licence terms, or unlimited at all. :)
>
> Cheers
> Em 15/05/2016 13:14, "Anita Graser"  escreveu:
>
>> Hi Marco,
>>
>> On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Marco Afonso 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Once the software (as an object) is available on a public repository, it
>>> only matters it's license terms to evaluate it's restrictions. From there,
>>> it is irrelevant "whos behind it".
>>>
>> ​Here I have to strongly disagree. Imho, the job of OSGeo incubation is
>> to evaluate a software project (software and organisation) therefore it
>> makes no sense to limit discussions to software quality.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Anita​
>>
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

[Ian Turton]

I've been trying to stay out of the arguments about governance models
because I prefer to write code than worry about licences or governance. But
it may help if I share a some anecdotes (which is almost data) about a
couple of FOSS projects that came out of academia when I was in charge. One
of these you may well have heard of GeoTools, which forms the base library
of GeoServer, UDig, GeoMesa and others, the other you may not know GeoVista
Studio.

Both these libraries started out as academic projects that solved a
research problem, both were open sourced as a result of the university
claiming all the intellectual property of it's staff for ever (so why not
give it away?) in both cases I (and James Macgil) were benevolent dictators
when the projects launched, it was a simple governance model that left us
able to get on with coding and researching and meant that things went the
way we wanted. GeoTools started to get some users and people started asking
for bug fixes and new features etc while James & I had actual jobs to do
and wanted to spend time with our families and go on holiday etc. So we got
some more people involved such as TOPP and Refractions and we sort of
lucked into a PSC and GeoTools went from strength to strength and now has a
PSC that spans the globe (which makes meeting times hard to find but is
otherwise awesome). In fact for a while GeoTools and GeoServer managed (or
thrived) with no input from me or James at all. However GeoVISTA studio,
only went open source grudgingly (the PI's didn't want to give up control
really) and never really gained more than a few users because we didn't
allow other people to influence the direction of development (after all the
university/PI was paying for the development) and thus there were only ever
two or three developers. As BD I had no real interest in attracting new
users (previous experience had taught me that's hard work). Once James and
then I moved on to other jobs development stopped (though apparently
someone downloaded a copy last week)
<https://sourceforge.net/projects/geovistastudio/files/>.

I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions but my feeling is that to make
the move from an academic to successful FOSS project you need to move from
dictatorship to committee run projects. If nothing else it allows you some
down time from running the project while never needing to give up having a
say in the running.

Ian


PS Some recent emails have tried to suggest that governance doesn't matter
if you have forkability but I think that is a flawed view - but if it is
true maybe we could just fork RASDAMAN and be done with the discussion? :-)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

[Ian Turton]

tion.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not believe that the "benevolent dictator" fits this ideal.
> >>>>
> >>>> I also do not think we need to stress the PSC approach as the one true
> >>>> way, smaller projects that only wish to have committers vote on
> >>>> decisions (rather than form a PSC) is perfectly acceptable - provided
> >>>> there is a provision for new committers to be added into the mix.
> >>>>
> >>>> We also have an outstanding request from our president to make the
> >>>> foundation more inclusive. With this in mind we are a lot less
> demanding
> >>>> on our community projects - which provides a way for projects that do
> >>>> not meet some of our ideal criteria to be part of the foundation.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jody
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Jody Garnett
> >>>>
> >>>> On 1 May 2016 at 00:44, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  OSGeo discuss, OSGeo incubation, OSGeo board,
> >>>>
> >>>>  I'm hoping the greater OSGeo community will consider and comment
> on
> >>>>  this question:
> >>>>
> >>>>  Should OSGeo accept a "benevolent dictator" [1] governance model
> for
> >>>>  incubating projects?
> >>>>
> >>>>  -0 from me, Cameron Shorter.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Background:
> >>>>  * As part of incubation, Peter Baumann, from Rasdaman has
> requested
> >>>>  a "benevolent dictatorship" governance model [2]. While
> "benevolent
> >>>>  dictatorships" often lead to successful projects, all prior OSGeo
> >>>>  incubated projects have selected "equal vote by PSC members".
> >>>>  Someone with better legal training than me might find "benevolent
> >>>>  dictatorships" to be unconstitutional according to OSGeo bylaws.
> [3]
> >>>>
> >>>>  [1] Eric Raymond's "Homesteading the Noosphere":
> >>>>
> http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/homesteading/homesteading/ar01s16.html
> >>>>  [2] http://www.rasdaman.org/wiki/Governance
> >>>>  [3]
> http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html
> >>>>
> >>>>  On 1/05/2016 3:56 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
> >>>>>  Cameron-
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  I understand where you are coming from, and your
> characterization
> >>>>>  is definitely correct. While our process is and always has been
> >>>>>  absolutely open to discussion so as to obtain the scientifically
> >>>>>  and technically best solution this "benevolent dictatorship" has
> >>>>>  brought rasdaman to where it stands now - it is designed by
> >>>>>  innovation, not by committee. Just to get me right, our model is
> >>>>>  certainly not the right one for every endeavour. Here it is the
> >>>>>  most appropriate, and hence we will keep it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  As you observe, this model is not contradicting OS as such, and
> >>>>>  many projects run it. So ultimately it lies in the hand of OSGeo
> >>>>>  to decide whether they accept the existing plurality of
> approaches
> >>>>>  (in this case manifest with rasdaman).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  best,
> >>>>>  Peter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On 04/30/2016 10:47 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>>  Bruce, Peter,
> >>>>>>  I've read through the incubation process documentation, and can
> >>>>>>  only see one thing which I think breaks our OSGeo principles.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  The Governance model includes a statement:
> >>>>>>  "In all issues, the PSC strives to achieve unanimous consent
> >>>>>>  based on a free, independent exchange of facts and opinions.
> >>>>>>  Should such consent exceptionally not be reached then Peter
> >>>>>>  Bauma

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

[Ian Turton]

Patrick,

Again you are misunderstanding how sprints (at least in the GeoJava tribe)
work - we plan for weeks (or months) before hand to make the most of the
limited time we have with the developers all in the same room and time zone
there is no brain storming at the event or quilting. We arrive with a plan
and execute that plan. Others are welcome to participate from a remote
location (as I did with the last GeoServer sprint) but there is inevitably
less interaction when you are 8 hours out of phase with the participants.

I'd love to spend my days crafting new cathedrals but there isn't the
demand from customers for that so mostly we work at incremental
improvements to our existing code base. Every so often we can join together
to throw up a new wing or (more often) fix the leaky roof that is annoying
but that no one want's to pay to fix, which is where funding from the OSGEO
comes in otherwise the code will just slowly rot until it all falls apart
and the customers go back to being gouged by proprietary suppliers who can
ignore the rot and just sell on the new shiny paint job.

Ian

On 6 March 2016 at 15:40, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov>
wrote:

> Andrea,
>
> The world needs a more peaceful approach to the future. That’s not what we
> have in a world that is rapidly disassembling, obviously with individual
> exceptions. So yes, a portion of the real world necessarily operates with a
> high degree of chaos. And though it may appear the norm, it is not the
> condition we aspire to, nor one that most allows for wise decisions.
> Brainstorming ideas is certainly a different exercise than the careful
> crafting required for long-standing solutions. I am suggesting we engender
> the more thoughtful approach, not surrender to the one of surviving chaos,
> given ‘your’ coding environment. I think of sprints as good for
> brainstorming, and yes, the dynamic sharing of ideas is very important. But
> I still see it as a patchwork quilt, not the venue for accumulating a
> masterpiece. I realize the world is not simply made of masterpieces, but we
> need them, and we can do more to engender them. And of course pursue with
> gusto, plenty of stimulating drinks and high moments of constructive
> exchange and recognized simpatico.
>
> -Patrick
>
>
>
> *From:* andrea.a...@gmail.com [mailto:andrea.a...@gmail.com] *On Behalf
> Of *Andrea Aime
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 6, 2016 6:32 AM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* Ian Turton; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 3:18 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
> It appears to me that even these more-substantial-than-hackathons sprints
> do not reflect the typical work environment for code development. I will
> suggest that requires more of the 'deep thought' Leonardo approach versus
> the more intuitive 'just start chiseling' of a Michelangelo.
>
>
>
> Patrick, it seems to be you imagining a work environment that's quite
> different from the one a software developer in a company doing consulting
> (typical open source setup) has.
>
>
>
> My normal work environment requires me to work for 2-5 different customers
> a day spanning from training, spec-ing and designing new
> modules/applications, meetings, and actual development, along with
> answering questions from my colleagues on other activities, often unrelated
> to the ones that I'm in charge of.
>
> During a typical open source code sprint I'm focused on a single activity
> all day instead.
>
>
>
> To be clear, I'm not complaining, if my daily work was single activity I'd
> walk away out of boredom, what keeps the typical code sprint
>
> engaging is also that we normally take on activity that seem hard to fit
> in the allowed time, and thus require some
>
> extras in terms of concentration and inventiveness to actually get
> completed :-p
>
>
>
> I'd say the recipe for a typical successful open source code sprint is:
>
> * Several developers in the same room, that are normally working from
> remote in different time zones
>
> * An ambitious objective (not so large/difficult that it's impossible to
> complete, but enough that you cannot relax and finish it anyways)
>
> * Typically, full day experience (e.g., we have lunch and dinner together
> too)
>
> * Coffee... lots of it :-p
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

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 >
> > (and in 2017 we can have several periods with RFP's so we can
> > instantiate a continue process).
> >
> >
> >
> > Dirk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22-02-16 09:42, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > the fact that made me rise this discussion is:
> >
> > - we are facing more and more sprint code support requests (really
> > really great)
> >
> > - we do have limited budget (we may not be able to support all the
> > requests)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Local-chapters] update your chapter's FOSS4G banner

[Ian Turton]

If people would like to upvote this community ad on gis.se that would help
too :-) http://meta.gis.stackexchange.com/a/4065/79

Ian

On 28 October 2015 at 13:38, Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>
wrote:

> Hello OSGeo local chapter leaders,
>
> Please help the Bonn FOSS4G team now, and be sure to update or add the
> new FOSS4G 2016 logo to your chapter's site.  There are lots of logos and
> banners available for preview at
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_Marketing
>
> (I notice that the Korea chapter already lists the new logo:
> http://www.osgeo.kr/)
>
> Please respond to this message to let everyone know when you have added
> the new logo.
>
> Let's make FOSS4G 2016 awesome :)
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Munich Orientation Convention, Mapcodes, and All the Rest

[Ian Turton]

I've no problem people discussing this - just them expecting to influence
decision makers :-)


Ian

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 1:43 PM Pericles Nacionales naci0...@umn.edu
wrote:

 I would have thought discussions like this is perfect for this list. It is
 of general interest and it reaches a lot more people. I'd say discuss away.

 -Perry
 On Jul 30, 2015 11:28 AM, Dan Ames dan.a...@byu.edu wrote:

 Fascinating discussion, though I agree with David that is belongs on the
 Standards Committee mailing list. Thanks for the enlightening info though!
 - Dan

 On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:12 AM Steve Swazee sdswa...@sharedgeo.org
 wrote:


 *From:* Ian Turton [mailto:ijtur...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:40 AM
 *To:* Swazee, Steve sdswa...@sharedgeo.org
 *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org
 *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Munich Orientation Convention, Mapcodes,
 and All the Rest




 Now that I have your attention, I believe you and the rest of the OSGeo
 community would be well served by spending some time truly learning about
 this issue.  In so doing, I’m sure the open minds among you will come to
 the conclusion that USNG/MGRS is the answer to the issue I am addressing.
 OSGeo could do the world a heap of good in doing so.



 Fascinating as this discussion is  I can't help wondering if you (as a
 group) are confused as to what OSGeo does? - we write software and if you
 publish a standard there is a fair chance we will write some code to
 integrate that code into our software, especially if there is user demand.



 So I expect you are preaching to the wrong people - either we care or we
 don't but most of us have no power to change the world.





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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Munich Orientation Convention, Mapcodes, and All the Rest

[Ian Turton]

 Now that I have your attention, I believe you and the rest of the OSGeo
 community would be well served by spending some time truly learning about
 this issue.  In so doing, I’m sure the open minds among you will come to
 the conclusion that USNG/MGRS is the answer to the issue I am addressing.
 OSGeo could do the world a heap of good in doing so.


Fascinating as this discussion is  I can't help wondering if you (as a
group) are confused as to what OSGeo does? - we write software and if you
publish a standard there is a fair chance we will write some code to
integrate that code into our software, especially if there is user demand.

So I expect you are preaching to the wrong people - either we care or we
don't but most of us have no power to change the world.

At the risk of prolonging this discussion I'll add the following.
Currently I'm not seeing any demand for this from users - I hear a lot of
talk about military and 1st responders but the last time I talked to a
military guy he was telling hair raising stories of US Army planes bombing
UK troops because they both use a grid system but the the US has letters up
the side of the map and the UK has letters across the bottom (it was
slightly more complex than that but basically that was the problem), so
their requirement was for WGS84 coordinates to match their GPS.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Should we consider all the Americas for FOSS4G2017 Conference?

[Ian Turton]

The twitter discussion came out of a confusion between USA and North
America.

Maybe there just needs to be more clarity.

Ian

On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 6:42 pm Eli Adam ea...@co.lincoln.or.us wrote:

 On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Steven Feldman shfeld...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Interesting idea
 
  What do you think the outcome would be? Seems to me that it would make it
  would reduce competition in ‘elsewhere group’. Would it increase S
 American
  chance of hosting a global FOSS4G?
 

 That is an interesting point and question.  Also probably the real
 point of deliberation unless we increase the number of regions in the
 rotation.

  My view, it makes sense to keep 1/3 FOSS4G’s in N America and 1/3 in
 Europe
  with the 3rd in ‘elsewhere group’ - it encourages outreach to new places
  once in 3 years while ensuring that the event is hosted in the back
 yards of
  the 2 largest communities of contributors and users in the other years.

 That largely echos previous discussions,
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Reboot_2011  Reviewing the old
 debate is certainly interesting.

  __
  Steven
 
 
  On 8 Jul 2015, at 13:45, Ian Turton ijtur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Following a brief twitter discussion - Jeff suggested I raise the idea
 here.
 

 This probably didn't fit your timing on twitter, but I would have been
 far more receptive to ideas over that past several months while I
 called for input as opposed to within 36 hours of finalizing and
 releasing the RFP.

  Now that we have FOSS4g-NA as a regular conference should we consider
  opening up the third location in our conference rotation to be
 Americas -
  i.e. North and South America instead of lumping South America in with
 Asia
  and the Pacific (or the anywhere else group)?
 
  I can understand the thinking back in 2010 but I know there are now large
  groups in Brazil and the Spanish language group is active in South
 America
  too.

 Sao Paolo, Brazil sent a LOI in 2014 (another North America year)
 https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2013-May/002118.html
 However, there was no South American LOI in 2015 when South America
 would have had priority over North America.  Are you involved with the
 South American Community Ian?  There are large, long time, active
 groups in South America hearing from those groups would be useful.

 Any potential LOCs who are interested can certainly send a low-effort
 LOI.  You never know who else will send a LOI, yours could be the only
 letter.  If there are letters both from the target region and
 somewhere else, it is up to the committee if they are willing to
 consider it.

 Eli



 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoTools 11.0 and GeoServer 2.5.0 released.

[Ian Turton]

The GeoTools and GeoServer communities are delighted to announce that the
first full release of GeoTools
11.0https://sourceforge.net/projects/geotools/files/GeoTools%2011%20Releases/11.0/and
GeoServer 2.5.0 http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GeoServer+2.5.0 have
been made today. If you want to see what's new there are blog posts for
GeoTools http://geotoolsnews.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/geotools-11.html and
GeoServer http://blog.geoserver.org/2014/03/20/geoserver-2-5-released/.

These releases are the first to be made under the new release
schedulehttp://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GeoTools+and+GeoServer+release+schedule
so
GeoTools 11.1 and GeoServer 2.5.1 will not be released next month but in
May giving users a chance to bed down the new releases before any changes
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org broken?

[Ian Turton]

The quick workaround is to request PNG.

Ian
On 10 Dec 2013 20:46, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.com wrote:

 Can you post the full url to a single tile that is generating this error
 message?

 If mapserver has been upgraded to v6.4 the GD/JPEG support might not be
 built into it and you might have better luck requesting map_imagetype=jpeg
 or map_imagetype=png

 -Steve W


 On 12/10/2013 3:09 PM, mtoothaker wrote:

 As of last week sometime this started happening to us as well. We are
 interfacing through OpenLayers, everything was working fine and then all
 of
 a sudden we stop getting tiles from http://vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org/
 wms/vmap0
 and when I copy the request to my browser address bar I get in reply :
 loadOutputFormat(): General error message. OUTPUTFORMAT clause references
 driver GD/JPEG, but this driver isn't configured. . When I started
 reading
 this thead I was hoping to find my solution, but I don't know how to
 follow
 up.

 Thanks in advanced.
 Mike


 Frank Warmerdam wrote

 Ian,

 Hmm, interesting.  I was under the vague belief that the vmap0 tiles are
 being generated by a variety of servers and that one of those was the
 webextra VM at OSU OSL which has been having problems.  When I login I
 see
 I'm on sphere at telescience.  Can you give me the specific request you
 issue to give that response.  It may be that it is misconfigured for the
 requests you are making, but it is still handling normal tile requests
 ok.

 +cc Martin Spott who I think knows a bunch about this service.

 We could likely drop osgeo discuss off this thread.

 Best regards,
 Frank




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  ijturton@


  gt; wrote:

  Does anyone know who to ask about vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org/wms always
 returning

 loadOutputFormat(): General error message. OUTPUTFORMAT clause
 references
 driver GD/JPEG, but this driver isn't configured.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org broken?

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Does anyone know who to ask about vmap0.tiles.osgeo.org/wms always
returning

loadOutputFormat(): General error message. OUTPUTFORMAT clause references
driver GD/JPEG, but this driver isn't configured.

Cheers

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license

[Ian Turton]

On 27 July 2012 15:50, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the
  greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter
  adherence to open source principles that come with a stronger
  license. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html)
 
  I'm not making a statement about which license is better for OSGeo
  Projects, I'm just making a general statement. I personally feel the
  principles in the GPL and LGPL are more important than wider adoption
  for my projects. But I'm just a hobby programmer.


 Yes, choice of license is a personal one, and while we may disagree on it,
 we have to abide by the choices that others make.


Actually choice of licence may be imposed on you by employer or sponsoring
organisation - for example the deal at Leeds University (where GeoTools
grew up) was that we were supposed to sell the code for as much as possible
or we could give it away under the GPL (and later the LGPL). If  the
University couldn't make money then no one could. Added to confusion was
the funding bodies determination that they also owned everything and giving
the code away was the easiest option.

The only thing I hate more than licence discussions is meetings with the
lawyers.

Ian

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Anita Graser (Underdark)

[Ian Turton]

I would like to nominate Anita Graser for charter membership. Many of you
will know her work under the name of Underdark which is her user name on
gis,stackexchange ( http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/187/underdark ) and
her blog  ( http://underdark.wordpress.com/ ) where she is tireless in
promoting QGis and other open source GIS tools. Anita is also a contributor
to the QGis code base.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Automatic geocoding of PDF documents

[Ian Turton]

On 17 January 2012 19:51, Arnie Shore shor...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder if someone can describe what's seen as the
 tall-pole-in-the-tent here, difficulty-wise.

See Jochen Leidner's publications http://publicationslist.org/leidner
for many useful papers explaining why this is hard and suggesting ways
to do it.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Finding position based on horizon profile?

[Ian Turton]

On 28 March 2011 16:48, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote:
 Consider the following hypothetical problem:

 Assume we have a good elevation data set for a large region of the earth --
 say, an entire mountain range.  Now let's say we have a photograph taken
 from the ground, the horizon of which shows the profile of a couple of the
 mountains in that range.  Can you tell me where the photograph was taken
 from?

 Any pointers to research in this area would be appreciated.

I think that http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ does some of  what you want.
I'm on a very slow hotel internet connection so I can't actually get
it to load just now. But my Delicious tags seem to indicate it's an
answer.

Ian
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Congrats New Charter members

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On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Ravi ravivundava...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It was a great contest and the most deserving by a vote are in the list.
 I look  forward for a great interaction with the new charter members.
 Especially addition of many ladies is very commendable.


 How ever a note of alarm is that only 50% of the charter members have
 voted.
 It would be nice if the names of those who have voted (but not to whom) is
 given.

 Cheers and congrats again

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I was waiting for a final announcement from Paul that voting was closing - I
didn't want to vote to early as the were still candidate statements coming
through that I wanted to read and consider.

So I know it was my fault for not paying more attention to the end of voting
but in previous elections there have been at least one (if not more)
reminders to vote. I suspect that this caught others out too.

Ian

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] offline maps

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:59 AM, carlos sousa springal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello and thanks for your help, but thats kinda blunt, throw
 everything into the laptop and call it bigfatmaprepository. Is it
 possible to detail a bit the software used and what kind of rasters
 there are in the repository.


Install GeoServer and GWC and add all your data as usual and all will be fine.

A more complex approach is to install GeoServer 2.1 and cascade the
WMS you usually use through GWC and make sure to visit all the main
areas of interest you might want to see later before you leave the
network and every thing will be in the cache. This might even work
with a slow link back to base to fill in any new areas you visit.

Ian

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GRASS not in demand, says PennState

[Ian Turton]

Just to clarify it wasn't the Penn State speakers who said this but
the industry guy.

Ian
(Really PSU does like open source, it's not just me :-)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Yahoo Geoplanet Versus GeoNames

[Ian Turton]

On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Connors, Bernie (SNB)
bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote:
 I believe there is an error in the article from cosmocode:

 http://www.cosmocode.de/en/blog/schoenborn/2010-01/24-free-geo-data-solutions-compared-geonames.org-vs.-yahoo-geoplanet



 It says that Yahoo GeoPlanet does NOT Provide Geo coordinates but this link
 from GeoPlanet does show coordinates:

 http://isithackday.com/geoplanet-explorer/index.php?woeid=2500105



 Perhaps GeoPlanet has been updated since the cosmocode article was written.


The article is about the data that can be downloaded not the web service.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

[Ian Turton]

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Christopher Schmidt
crschm...@crschmidt.net wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 05:18:47PM -0700, Paul Ramsey wrote:
 All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF .. ?

 That was actually my first thought when I saw this: Hey look,
 someone else reinventing RDFa! :)

 Seriously, I say this with a bit of knowledge; I mean, after all,
 I sort of work on making places searchable on maps. For a company
 with a pretty big set of data about the hierarchy of the world.
 It's a lot fuzzier than you think :)

 Also, Landon, I do highly recommend looking into RDF -- specifically,
 RDFa -- because I think it's heading in a very similar direction to
 what you're describing, without the need for some all-world-hierarchy
 to tie it to, which might actually help you get a bit further.


You might want to look at http://www.geonames.org/ontology/ which RDFs
the GeoNames database.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geopaparazzi released

[Ian Turton]

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas
js...@osgeo.org wrote:

 2) will I get lawsuited if I have the osgeo compass in my PhD thesis
 (available in the net) and in a couple of presentations I gave in the
 last year at conferences (all available on slideshare)? It would be
 bad to take them back, but if I have to...


 I can't imagine no one in OSGeo law-suiting you because you've given
 credit to the Foundation on your projects, even doing it in a
 wrong-for-lawyers way.

The problem is not in you getting sued but if say a large closed
source GIS company started using  the OSGEO logo to promote its
inferior product it would be harder for OSGEO to sue them as it had
not defended its logo in the past.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WMS and layer stacking.

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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Bob Basques
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote:
 All,

 does anyone know if there is a layer hierarchy setting in the WMS service,
 which layers are on top of which layers (Z value=)?


There is an opaque hint in the capabilities document that suggests
that the layer should be a base layer. Other than that the layers are
just drawn in the order the client requests them and there is no
implied ordering from the capabilities file. For example GeoServer
returns the layers in alphabetical order by namespace then layer name.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

[Ian Turton]

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Nikos Alexandris
nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 G. Allegri wrote:
 Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in
 GIS series
 http://www.springer.com/series/7712?cm_mmc=other-_-Enews-_-PSE12813_V1-_-77
 12

 Hi!

 I have bought last year the (me thinks it is) 1st book of the series [1]. I
 liked the book and I would recommend it. Yet, one thing I want to note: in my
 humble opinion, it was/is very expensive [for my (still-)student pocket!]:
100.-EU for 300 pages.

 It seems (to me) the book is targeting (only) open source advocates, people
 who don't have problem spending such amounts and/or libraries.


It is the perennial problem of academic publications, the publisher
makes them expensive because they won't sell many copies and they
don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Approaches in Spatial Data Handling - Springer Advances in GIS series

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:09 AM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote:
 don't sell many copies because they are expensive. :-( This is
 especially annoying as the authors give them the text for free.

 So why should we continue to fill this vicious circle? I hope one day
 a more ethical and fair circuit will be set up by the scientific
 community

When my boss scores my performance based on open texts instead of books :-)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Atlas Styler glitches on OSGeo-Live

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On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Jody Garnett jody.garn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Stegan; it was a bit funny. The application window appeared under the 
 panel at the top of the gnome desktop. I eventually worked around it by 
 finding the entry in the task manager and asking the window to maximise.

 Other than that I was unable to create a style using the natural earth 
 countries shapefile - I let the progress bar go for 5 mins before moving on 
 to the next app. For the quick start you may want to be super specific about 
 where to find the data (in the users home directory) and what buttons to 
 click etc..


Were you on  a readonly file system? I know GeoServer has some
issues with adding resources when on a DVD.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 39 out of 43 excellent project overview docs, ready for the OSGeo-Live DVD - 3 days left

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Just to let people know that I've agreed to write some GeoServer docs
for the liveDVD - unless someone else jumps in and beats me to it.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone Know What's Happened to All the NAIP Servers?

[Ian Turton]

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Bill Thoen bth...@gisnet.com wrote:
 Up until just a few days ago, USDA NAIP (US Dept of Agriculture's  National
 Agriculture Inventory Program) 1-meter aerial imagery was available free
 from several government servers but suddenly they all seem to have gone
 dark. Both the USGS ArcGIS and USDA.gov servers and a couple of AFPO sources
 seemed to have dried up simultaneously. Doe anyone know why? Is it going to
 be restored or scrapped? Is It is available elsewhere?


http://imsortho.cr.usgs.gov:80/wmsconnector/com.esri.wms.Esrimap/USGS_EDC_Ortho_Pennsylvania?

is still up and running.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] are there any unpaid developers?

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One of my students was asking today about the open source development
process (with special reference to geospatial projects). One question
I'm left with is are there any OSGEO developers who are doing this
just for the fun and fame? I know that a lot of us have fun developing
but everyone I could think of (GeoTools, GeoServer, uDig) gets paid to
have that fun.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Degree vs GeoTools API

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:
 hi all

 anyone can share the difference between Deegree vs GeoTools API


Deegree is a WMS/WFS/WCS(?) server and GeoTools is a Java library for
building geospatial apps.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PostGis Data

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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Felipe Carrillo
mazatlanmex...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi:
 I ran into a nice tutorial here:
 http://revenant.ca/www/postgis/workshop/
 and after practicing with the medford data,now I would
 like to dowload similar data for a different area. Could
 someone point me in the right direction?

How about http://www.atlas.ca.gov/ ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] new: OSGeo women mailing list

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http://xkcd.com/322/

well someone had to post it

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source mapping of Election Results

[Ian Turton]

Via APB 
(http://apb.directionsmag.com/index.php?url=archives/6804-Boise-Journo-Maps-City-Council-Election-Returns-Using-QGIS,-MapWindow-and-More.html)
Boise Journo Maps City Council Election Returns Using QGIS, MapWindow
and More
 
http://www.boiseweekly.com/CityDesk/archives/2009/11/09/mapping-the-city-council-returns

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for introductory material on cartography

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 6:52 PM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thnaks Ian. That's a really interesting material, but it's out of our
 course scope. I need something about basic geodesy, coordinates
 systems, etc.


ah geography not cartography - try
https://www.e-education.psu.edu/natureofgeoinfo/ (browse all the PSU
offerings at http://open.ems.psu.edu/courseware)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for introductory material on cartography

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On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 5:05 AM, G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm going to teach a course (mostly as volunteer time) on GIS basics
 and GPS surveying for an ONG in Africa. The first two days they will
 self-teach cartography basics, then I'll begin from GIS, etc. They
 asked me if I could indicate them some links to free introductory
 material on cartography (earth shape, coordinates, maps, reference
 systems, projections, etc.).
 Does anybody know web resources, or could share copyleft
 tutorials/manuals/etc on the subject? I've found something googling,
 from wikipedia to some sparse course chapters, but I would like to
 find structured, clean and easy, stuff. Am I asking too much?


How  about https://www.e-education.psu.edu/geog486/? It's CC BY NC SA

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

[Ian Turton]

On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Charlie Schweik
cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu wrote:

 I'm also wondering if we could get some funding somewhere to hold an invited
 workshop (that pays for people to attend) to really dig into this.


http://www.nsf.gov/pubs/gpg/nsf04_23/2.jsp#IID7 - I'm game to aid in
the request but I don't have any time to lead until December.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

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On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Peter Batty pe...@ebatty.com wrote:

 I think that programs to encourage greater use of OSGeo products in
 universities would be a great idea too - ESRI dominate in this area at the
 moment, but this would be another way to get the word out to a broader
 audience.

Currently universities are locked in a vicious circle with GIS
software in that the students demand we teach them on ESRI software
because that's what employers want and employers use ESRI software as
that is what the universities are teaching the students on.

The fact that ESRI are giving the software away for free (or nearly
free) doesn't help. I'd love to teach more (undergraduate) students
with FOSS but first I have to find technician time to install the
software on all the lab machines in the university (which is where
ArcMap is provided) for just one course (and any way why can't I use
Arc like everyone else will be the question). Of course we're supposed
to be teaching techniques not software packages but you still spend
most of your time sorting out the software issues.

So *I* think that universities are a lost cause and we should focus on
high schools - but in many states ESRI has got there before us and has
signed deals with the state to provide arc in schools at no cost to
the school. When I query teachers as to how the kids will do their
homework they usually shrug and point out it's too hard for them to do
on their own or that they can use the school library. May be
elementary schools are the winnable battlefield?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC geospatial rights mgt. summit

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On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Landon Blake lbl...@ksninc.com wrote:
 How about OGC support for the Science Commons work on a public domain
 or creative commons type license for geospatial data.


That's not going to happen. OGC has many national mapping agencies as
members and USGS and OS are never going to allow this. Plus it isn't
any of the OGC's business as to what sort of licenses are used on
data.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GIS Data Models

[Ian Turton]

On Nov 27, 2007 12:32 PM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 Does anyone know if there has been work on GIS Data Models besides any
 organization other than ESRI?
 (http://www.esri.com/software/arcgis/geodatabase/about/data-models.html)


Martin Davies (of JTS fame) recently had a blog post on this at
http://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2007/11/bible-of-spatial-indexing.html.
I've got The Design and Analysis of Spatial Data Structures  out of
the library at work and am slowly working my way through it. I've
already learned a bunch of stuff about point quadtrees and I'm only up
to chapter two, so the the other two books Martin mentions may well
also be worth checking out.

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