Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) >wrote: > > For my two-pence, which won't even get you a cup of chai in Mumbai Correct. The current going rate is about 15¢ or 10p. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Notice] Email List Maintenance
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:32 PM, Alex Mwrote: > > All of OSGeo email lists and aliases, will be migrated > to the new "osgeo6" Was kinda expecting the new machine to be called the FOSS4G6 machine… phew ! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G
A resounding YES !!! > On Oct 6, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Barry Rowlingson> wrote: > > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but > here goes... > > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference? > > Cons: > > 1. FOSS4G is an established brand > > 2. FOSS4G sidesteps the "Free" vs "Open Source" argument by including both. > > Counters to those: > > 1. Really? Perhaps amongst OSGeo people, but outside our sphere I > have to expand the acronym and then go on to mention OSGeo. > > 2. Let's have that argument somewhere else, okay? > > Pros: > > 1. Puts the *Geo* visible, not tucked away as a G at the end. > > 2. Gets rid of the "4G", which may have been a cool thing 2 do ten > years ago, but not now :) > > 3. Removes any confusion with 4G telecoms networks. > > 4. Clearly brands the conference as an OSGeo conference. Recent > discussion about the prominence and significance of OSGeo to FOSS4G > becomes moot. > > 5. Is easy to explain. The OSGeo Conference is the open source > geospatial conference. See the OSGeo web site. Search for OSGeo. One > acronym to remember. > > [I toyed with the idea that the conference should be called "OSGeo > Live!" and renaming the OSGeo Live operating system disc as "OSGeoOS" > but that might be a bit too much :)] > > So, this is the discuss list, discuss. > > Barry > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:11 PM, Paragon Corporationwrote: > > OSGEO is the Go To for all your FOSS4G needs. Reminds me how I used to do GIS on my IBM then go home and watch CBS on my VCR. Thankfully, those days are over. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board election: no re-elections this year?
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden> wrote: > > - Is the board membership such a demanding job that members always resign > after 2 years? I didn’t realize there was no term-limit. In fact, I believe there *should* be one to get new ideas, new representation, and simply new energy. Two years is not a bad term. -- Puneet Kishor Just Another Creative Commoner http://punkish.org/About ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Discuss Digest, Vol 103, Issue 20
Hello all, hi Jonathan, On Jul 27, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Jonathan Moules j.mou...@hrwallingford.com wrote: These systems may fail from a GIS perspective, but that's because their primary design goal is ease-of-use by the general public. Ease-of-use from the POV of the general public varies from culture to culture, context to context, time to time. Thinking that we can create a universal code that everyone in the world will glom on to is just fanciful and really a waste of time. If it had been needed badly, it would have created. Those who understand or can use lat/lon, already do so, or just punch it in a device. Those who understand “200 feet from the wooden bridge to the right of the banyan tree” use that and are happy with it. And that mapcode site that someone mentioned is being considered as an ISO standard; first, mapcode is being filed by mapcode folks to become an ISO standard. That is not the same as “it is being considered as a standard.” Besides, what a confused jumble of instructions regarding its licensing: It was decided to donate the mapcode system to the public domain in 2008. http://www.mapcode.com/aboutmc.html The Stichting Mapcode Foundation is a non-profit foundation, established in The Netherlands (Chamber of Commerce RSIN registration number 852726284), which holds all the patents, rights, brands, designs, properties, collateral, algorithms, data tables and IP related to map codes.” (which part of Public Domain do they not understand?) http://www.mapcode.com/aboutus.html The Mapcode Foundation is the only authorized entity that is allowed to maintain, change or adapt its software or tables.” (Oh, good! I should trust them to do the right thing forever) http://www.mapcode.com/aboutus.html The mapcode algorithms and data tables may not be altered in any way that would result in the production of different (and thus incompatible) mapcodes. The mapcode algorithms and data tables may not be used in any way to generate a different system that produces codes to represent locations. In order to prevent misuse, unauthorised alterations, copying or commercial exploitation, please note that the ideas and algorithms behind the mapcode system have been patented and that the term mapcode is a registered trademark of the Stichting Mapcode Foundation.” (so, this system meant for global use cannot be used for commercial purposes; which part of the world can subsist on love and free air?) http://www.mapcode.com/downloads.html#devsec There are a bunch of interesting problems to be solved in the geo realm. In my view, a globally usable location system is not one of them. But hey, its a free world and there are many wheels to reinvent. -- Puneet Kishor Just Another Creative Commoner ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members
On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Howard Butler how...@hobu.co wrote: Do you lose a significant benefit by not being a Charter Member? Just the ability to vote for the board and the ability to tout your exclusivity on a vita/resume. Anything else? Lack of membership does not prevent anyone from participating now, and we wouldn't want it to (unlike many other professional organizations). I don't lose anything significant, which implies that everything significant I gain from OSGeo's community is unaffected by my membership. This is one of the reasons I don't attend foss4g anymore (actually, mainly because I can't afford to do so). I will still support all the community ideals and aspirations to the fullest possible. In short, I consider this both my vote for membership dues and the concurrent renunciation of my membership as a result. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Maps and the Geospatial Revolution from Jul 17th 2013 at Coursera
Snipped a bunch of the email below for brevity -- On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: .. It will be very helpful, if you can share your ideas and experiences to OSGeo Edu community so we can think of ideas for MOOC program entirely using OSGeo Software for the future. .. On 30/06/13 03:20, ANTHONY C ROBINSON wrote: Hi Cameron, .. I'm aware of some OS community angst about my selection of AGOL for doing most of the labs in the course. .. Seems like I missed the start of this discussion, but am really glad to pitch in now. A geospatial MOOC completely based on both open software as well as open data would make for a perfect trifecta of completely open educational materials. Kudos. At Creative Commons we have particular interest in MOOCs, not only for the potential they hold for open and inclusive education, but also for potentially revolutionizing education itself. That potential is currently limited by the restrictive licensing many of the MOOCs adopt. A completely open MOOC licensed under a CC BY or a CC BY-SA license would not only fulfill its educational mission, it would also allow others to take the educational material and remix and repurpose it further. Please keep the above points in mind when having a conversation about MOOCs. I would be happy to assist where appropriate. Many thanks, -- Puneet Kishor Policy Coordinator for Science and Data Creative Commons ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 Nottingham update
On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: social trips (caves anyone? http://bldgblog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/caves-of-nottingham_11.html), Even though Kimbereley is no more, how 'bout ye olde trip to jerusalem? http://www.triptojerusalem.com/ -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G presentation review process
On Oct 1, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: * some names are big draws, and it would be disappointing to not have someone because their abstract wasn't that exciting. If they don't have anything interesting to say, they should not be big draws. Selection should be on the character of content rather than the size of the badge. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: Btw: OdbL will be a great enabler for this because it requires to maintain this breadcrumb track when publishing the results. Confused as to how ODbL (http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/) is relevant here. Unless, you mean the Old Dominion Baseball League (http://www.acronymfinder.com/Old-Dominion-Baseball-League-(Virginia)-(ODBL).html) -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Geodata] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: On 07/31/2012 02:14 PM, Mr. Puneet Kishor wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: Btw: OdbL will be a great enabler for this because it requires to maintain this breadcrumb track when publishing the results. Confused as to how ODbL (http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/) is relevant here. Unless, you mean the Old Dominion Baseball League (http://www.acronymfinder.com/Old-Dominion-Baseball-League-(Virginia)-(ODBL).html) http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/ [BOF] 4.6 Access to Derivative Databases. If You Publicly Use a Derivative Database or a Produced Work from a Derivative Database, You must also offer to recipients of the Derivative Database or Produced Work a copy in a machine readable form of: a. The entire Derivative Database; or b. A file containing all of the alterations made to the Database or the method of making the alterations to the Database (such as an algorithm), including any additional Contents, that make up all the differences between the Database and the Derivative Database. [EOF] So whenever you create a derivative database you can simply add the breadcrumb track of how you did it and Voila, the license conditions have been met, happy. In my mind one of the greatest sections in OdbL (an admittedly narrowly metadata focused mind). Perhaps, but not all datasets have licenses, may be in the public domain, may have waived their rights allowing derivation without attribution, etc., etc. Let's not get bogged down right away in licensing issues (I shouldn't say trust me, but I will, as a friend, not a lawyer -- IANAL) else we won't get anywhere, but there are many, many different legal statuses under which a dataset may be made available. (sitting in a meeting in Wash DC discussing this very issue since yesterday morning). -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote: Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to participate. +1 on an Open Geospatial Data Committee. Count me in as well. I am with y'all on that. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Do you think an atlas of beautiful maps produced with open-source technology (software and data) could be made? Here's what I was thinking: .. Great idea, but a physical book in today's day and age? Perhaps... That said, what about http://www.radicalcartography.net http://www.cartotalk.com/index.php?showforum=14 -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Ross andrew.r...@eclipse.org wrote: BSD, MIT, Apache wouldn't have this issue - at the expense of not having the weak copyleft. Basically people can take the code and do what they wish with it. +1 -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and I'm also sure many of us can name firms that have no issue shipping LGPL components. GPL is dying, of natural causes. http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github Best regards, (I don't think that GPL is dying, it is still 70% on SourceForge last time I checked) .. would also be interesting to rearrange that chart by -- - SLOC. Would 200 projects of 5 SLOC each under license A vs. one project of 1000 SLOC under license B considered some kind of marker? - adoption. Would 200 projects under license A adopted by a total of 500 implementations vs. one project under license B adopted by 500,000 folks portend some other kind of trend? Yes, an interesting and worthwhile conversation. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter adherence to open source principles that come with a stronger license. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html) I'm not making a statement about which license is better for OSGeo Projects, I'm just making a general statement. I personally feel the principles in the GPL and LGPL are more important than wider adoption for my projects. But I'm just a hobby programmer. Yes, choice of license is a personal one, and while we may disagree on it, we have to abide by the choices that others make. Personally, I care enough about free and open access that I want to see as wide adoption as possible. And, that includes those who may want to take my work, modify it, and re-release the modifications under a more restrictive license. If that leads to wider adoption, and there is some empirical evidence it does, I am all for it. Which is why I tend to use CC0 -- that is, effectively in the Public Domain, reverted to CC-BY where PD is not possible or impractical. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 11:59 AM, Ian Turton ijtur...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 July 2012 15:50, Mr. Puneet Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 27, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Landon Blake sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote: I think there is a tradeoff in the licensing decision between the greater adoption that comes with a weaker license, and the stricter adherence to open source principles that come with a stronger license. (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html) I'm not making a statement about which license is better for OSGeo Projects, I'm just making a general statement. I personally feel the principles in the GPL and LGPL are more important than wider adoption for my projects. But I'm just a hobby programmer. Yes, choice of license is a personal one, and while we may disagree on it, we have to abide by the choices that others make. Actually choice of licence may be imposed on you by employer or sponsoring organisation - Yes, of course. I wasn't bringing into discussion situations where I had no control. If my terms of hire or funding state something, I have to abide by that, and all this discussion is moot. ... The only thing I hate more than licence discussions is meetings with the lawyers. Indeed. Which is why I short-circuit all license discussions in my personal domain by not having any license. Life is too short and precious, in my view, to encumber with these complications. I'd rather be having a cold beer. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: I hesitate to get into this discussion, but... Puneet wrote: [...] I short-circuit all license discussions in my personal domain by not having any license. Life is too short and precious, in my view, to encumber with these complications. Do you literally mean no license at all? That might be a mistake, if you're looking for others to adopt your code. No, I don't mean no license at all. I mean CC0. http://creativecommons.org/choose/zero/ Having no license documentation in the code raises all sorts of red flags. In my commercial or government work, I'd not allow use of any code whose provenance, author, and/or copyright status is at all unclear. Using CC0 makes my intent very clear. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: I would have to echo that. I do not see using code at work that does not have any licensing information attached. Agreed. -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role
I second Michael's sentiments. Use of terms such as distinguished and elite in the context of OSGeo community makes me extremely uncomfortable. On May 5, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? Both. (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? The board is elected by the charter members to make policy. When the system was set up, it was not the intent that charter members had any role other than to preserve the nature and mission of the foundation by electing appropriate board members. Other than that, many of us did not want to create any sort of special status for members of the community: we wanted to be as open and inclusive as possible. To that end, we have a public board mailing list where issues can be raised and discussed by all, and the monthly board meetings are also held openly on #irc. -mpg -Original Message- From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 9:58 AM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; 'OSGeo-Board'; 'marketing' Subject: Re: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role Michael, On 2012/05/05 23:58, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: Your points have actually been discussed, but so far there hasn't apparently been enough interest to further push the idea of stronger charter member roles. enough interest in the community or the OSGeo Board? (Your points (1) and (3) are already the case, and some people (myself included) feel that (2) is not desirable right now.) About (2), why is it not desirable? Venka -mpg From: board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:board-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Venkatesh Raghavan Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:46 AM Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; OSGeo-Board; marketing Subject: [Board] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Defining an OSGeo Ambassador role There was a discussion about responsibility of Charter members http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-December/009239.html and a wiki page (see below) was initiated (at the request of a Board member) but not much input after that. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_charter_member_page_instruction I also made several suggestions to the board which till date is answered by anyone on the OSGeo board. See thread http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2012-January/009337.html Venka ___ Board mailing list bo...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G South America
On Feb 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, slesage wrote: El 2012-02-12 22:25, Alex Borrell escribió: Thanks for your nice reply, Sylvain. I would certainly like to Bolivia (People say it's beatiful). Anyway, if there is something I coul do to help, count on it! Probably we'll see the day of a Latin American FOSS4G. Yes, Bolivia is gorgeous. I spent a couple of wonderful weeks in La Paz in 1995 doing an assessment of their GIS capability, and few even more wonderful days in Santa Cruz de la Sierra. Still have a charango to prove it. I am sure their GIS capabilities have come a long ways since 1995. A project like this is best done by local developers, with lots of active involvement via user lists and other online communities such as this. -- Puneet Kishor___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Report from the OSGeo Board meeting
On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:59 AM, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: I wrote recently that there three kinds of functions needed here: administrative (bookkeeping, answering mail, etc), tactical (project management, sys admin), and strategic (fundraising, outreach). The first can be done by a mixture of outsourcing and volunteers, and we're already taking steps for that. The second is done already by very competent volunteers. The third requires a very specific set of skills we will likely hire or contract out for; Agree about the first and the second above, but disagree about the third (in a minor way). Yes, fundraising is something that requires a dedicated person or persona, which, unfortunately and ironically requires funds. Although, there are models for getting around that (in a minute on that). However, please don't lump outreach there. Outreach is what we all do on a daily basis -- - Every time someone responds to a desperate new or (ahem) returning user's email as to why MapServer is returning a broken image or why OpenLayers is not working via a proxy, that is outreach. - The hours that Alex and Karsten and others (including, in a very small way, myself) stand at the OSGeo booth talking to visitors, that is outreach. - The countless presentations that I have given all over the world in the past 3 years, mostly as a Creative Commons Fellow, but also talking about OSGeo and free and open source geospatial, that is outreach. - Using pretty much nothing but OSGeo tools for my current largish-money project and converting all my colleagues in academic to appreciating the benefits of OSGeo tools is outreach. Outreach is a fundamentally volunteer and community effort, not requiring a dedicated sales/advertising budget or agency. This is a significant part of the open in OSGeo. With regards to fundraising -- I am thinking of the sqlite model. As you might know, sqlite is in public domain. However, the developer ha) at least the following funding sources -- 1. personal technical support 2. sale of encrypted sqlite 3. (perhaps, most applicable to OSGeo) is corporate sponsorship/membership to the sqlite consortium from big-pocketed private companies that benefit from sqlite. I believe part of the benefit of being a member of the consortia is that they get some tech support, etc., although I am not too sure about that. sqlite.org has details about that. in the near term, the board and other non-board volunteers will shoulder this (as they have been doing for years, though often unacknowledged). This will be an evolving process, of course, and the discussion with the community is now underway. Yup, this is good. And, absolute no issues with taking decision about eliminating the ED position without airing it on the public list. Besides other reasons, it would have been tremendously inefficient. -- Puneet Kishor___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] designing databases, organizing data formats to work with open source and proprietary GIS
Karsten, On Aug 10, 2011, at 11:12 PM, karsten vennemann wrote: Hi all, in the near future I will have the opportunity to help design databases, decide on data formats (files data) for an international organization that wishes to be able to use both proprietary and open source based systems, mostly in web mapping solution but also possibly on the desktop. The task will be to design and organize the data stores in a way that both types of systems - open source (e.g. MapServer, OpenLayers) and proprietary systems (ESRI Arc Server) can use them well, and along the way to try to avoid too much data duplication (having to store data in multiple formats just to make them accessible) . This sounds to like a exiting useful, fun task, but given the limitations of both systems (regarding input data that might not work out of the box- namely file Geodatabases in open source solutions, and PostGIS data in ESRI products) might be not totally trivial ;) I was wondering if anybody has done work on this, has implemented systems facing the same issues or knows of projects or reports that have been dealing with similar issues. Also I anybody has comments about what data storage solution you would recommend and comments about the pro and cons of certain storage designs please send it to the list. Looking forward to hear what other have come up with. Thanks a lot Perhaps other will respond with something helpful, but the above is way too generic. You might have to narrow down the specific issues in order to get more useful responses. Puneet. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo-ers in Sydney
I am in Sydney till the end of the week. If there are any Sydney OSGeo-ers on this list, I would love to meet up with you and get tips on where to find affordable beer. Puneet.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Impacts of OSGeo-Live document license selection on OSGeo
On Jun 19, 2011, at 8:51 AM, Charlie Schweik wrote: On 6/18/2011 7:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Are education institutions allowed to license material they create under CC BY-SA? I don't know if there is a yes or no answer to this or to what degree this has been addressed in academic institutions. We have one colleague, Puneet Kishor, who is closely connected to Creative Commons. Puneet, do you have any idea about this? The answer would likely vary from institution to institution. Going by UW-Madison where I work, copyright in institutional stuff (for example, the UW web site [http://www.wisc.edu]) are held by the Regents of the University. Every page on the web site is footnoted with © 2010 Board of Regents - University of Wisconsin System. All Rights Reserved. However, employees are certainly allowed to benefit from their own creations; see below for relevant excerpt from [http://www.wisconsin.edu/gc-off/deskbook/copyrgt.htm]. Ownership of Employee-Created Instructional Materials Under the UW System Policy on Ownership of Copyrightable Instructional Materials (GAPP 27), the employee usually owns all rights in his or her creations. For instance, a professor who creates a scholarly article in the course of research at a UW System institution would ordinarily own the copyright in it. The institution may have an interest, however, if it contributed substantial institutional resources in the creation of the work. Substantial resources could include providing the creator with paid release time from his or her job, or allowing the employee exceptional access to specialized computer resources to create the work. In practice, when an author uses institutional resources to create a protected work, it is best to agree with the institution beforehand about ownership and control of the work. GAPP 27 includes a sample agreement to allocate rights and interests in copyrighted works between the institution and the employee author. In addition, if a work is produced with extramural support, such as federal funding or corporate sponsorship, the sponsor may have rights in the work. These rights need to be factored into any agreement allocating rights between the copyright owner and the institution. It is evident from above that the matter is not cut and dried. It would depend on agreement with the employer (work-for-hire clause), stipulations from the funding agency (federal vs. private funders), etc. Instructors hold copyright in the instructional material they create, researchers hold copyright in the articles and books they write, and inventors are able to hold patents and benefit from them. UW has specific policies regarding patenting [http://www.warf.org/inventors/index.jsp?cid=14]. Please note that under university policy and certain federal statutes, all inventions made by UW-Madison faculty, staff and students must be disclosed to WARF regardless of the monies (federal, private, etc.) that funded the research leading to the invention. Once WARF processes a new disclosure, the UW-Madison Graduate School will perform an equity review to determine who has ownership rights to the invention. If the Graduate School determines that federal funds did not contribute to the invention (and the inventor has not assigned intellectual property rights to an outside entity, such as a company), the inventor may then choose whether or not to work with WARF in patenting and licensing the invention. In fact, even students hold copyright in their theses and dissertations [http://www.grad.wisc.edu/education/completedegree/pguide.html#18]. Copyright Page (optional) [ top ] If you would like, prepare a copyright page conforming to the sample in the samples section. You may view a sample copyright page at http://www.grad.wisc.edu/education/completedegree/copyright.pdf. Center the text in the bottom third of the page within the dissertation margins. Do not number the copyright page. Registration of copyright You are automatically protected by copyright law, and you do not have to pay in order to retain copyright. There is an additional fee of $65.00 for registering your copyright, which is a public record, and is payable at the Bursar's office along with the dissertation microfilming and binding fee of $90.00. If you choose to pay this additional fee, please sign the separate ProQuest registration of copyright page. If you submit that page, ProQuest will send
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] F4G 2012
On May 9, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Eduardo Kanegae wrote: Hi there, I'll not be able to visit F4G2011 but I´d like to start planning myself for the next year conference. Is there any proposal of places for hosting 2012 conference or am I asking this too early? I believe São Paulo is a top contender. Start saving. * just kidding. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Workshop on Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards
## Workshop on Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards You are invited to attend a workshop titled [Open Government: Open Data, Open Source and Open Standards][og] organized jointly by [Dr. Hanif Rahemtulla][hr], Horizon Digital Economy Research and [Puneet Kishor][pk], Creative Commons The workshop will be held in conjunction with the annual [Open Source GIS Conference][oc], June 21, 2011, Nottingham, United Kingdom, and will be held at the [School of Geography/Centre for Geospatial Science][cg] at the University of Nottingham. [og]: http://punkish.org/opengov/index.html [hr]: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/computerscience/people/Hanif.Rahemtulla [pk]: http://punkish.org [oc]: http://cgs.nottingham.ac.uk/~osgis11/os_home.html [cg]: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cgs/index.aspx This workshop builds on the [Law and the GeoWeb][lg] workshop held recently at Microsoft Research, Redmond, WA, and will bring together speakers from across industry, research and academia to contribute toward some of the fundamental theoretical and technical questions emerging in the Open Data space (i.e., how to mark up and release open data; licensing models for governments and how to interface them to other open source and commercial licensing regimes; conflicts between data protection and transparency and structuring access to data by different groups). [lg]: http://punkish.org/geoweb/index.html The following speakers and topics have been confirmed: * Dr. Peter Mooney, Geotechnologies Research Group, Department of Computer Science, NUI Maynooth (NUIM), Co. Kildare. Ireland Producing and consuming open data * Professor David Martin, School of Geography, University of Southampton, Southampton Mapping the UK population over time: a universe of new possibilities * Zach Beauvais, Talis Linked data * Dr. Chris Parker (GeoVation and Community Propositions) and Ian Holt (Web Services), Ordnance Survey, Southampton Tackling global challenges through open innovation and geographic information * Dr. Catherine Souch, Royal Geographical Society The Open Data revolution and data literacy in higher education * Dr. Katleen Janssen, Interdisciplinary Centre for Law and ICT (ICRI), Katholieke Universiteit, Leuven, Belgium Privacy and legal implications of open data * Professor Derek McAuley, Horizon Digital Economy Research Institute, University of Nottingham Exercising our rights over information about us ## Proceedings Proceedings of the Redmond and Nottingham workshops along with selected longer papers will be published in a special issue of the open-access [International Journal of Spatial Data Infrastructure Research][ij] published by the Joint Research Centre of the European Commission. [ij]: http://ijsdir.jrc.ec.europa.eu ## Contact Please register for the workshop at the main [OSGIS web site][rg]. [rg]: http://osgis2011.wufoo.com/forms/third-open-source-gis-conference-osgis-2011/ For further information please contact either [Dr. Hanif Rahemtulla][eh] or [Puneet Kishor][ep]. [eh]: mailto:hanif.rahemtu...@nottingham.ac.uk [ep]: mailto:punk...@creativecommons.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO booth is up at AAG in Seattle
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, karsten vennemann kars...@terragis.net wrote: Hi GIS Folks, the OSGEO booth is set-up at AAG 2011 http://www.aag.org/cs/annualmeeting in Seattle. Please please stop by and chat with us if you are in the areas or attending AGG. We have volunteer staffing at the booth starting tonight at the exhibit hall opening and until Friday with support mainly from the CA and Cascadia chapter of OSGEO . See you there during the rest of the week. Wanted to have it be known -- Karsten and Alex Mandel and others are doing a great job. A true labor of love. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.org Researcher http://carbonmodel.org Science Fellow http://creativecommons.org Cheer Karsten ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO booth is up at AAG in Seattle
On Apr 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, karsten vennemann kars...@terragis.net wrote: Hi GIS Folks, the OSGEO booth is set-up at AAG 2011 http://www.aag.org/cs/annualmeeting in Seattle. Please please stop by and chat with us if you are in the areas or attending AGG. We have volunteer staffing at the booth starting tonight at the exhibit hall opening and until Friday with support mainly from the CA and Cascadia chapter of OSGEO . See you there during the rest of the week. Cool. Will come to say hi. Hey other OSGeo-ers. Raise your hand if you are here at AAG. Would love to put some names to faces to names. -- Puneet Kishor http://punkish.org Researcher http://carbonmodel.org Science Fellow http://creativecommons.org___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Finding position based on horizon profile?
On Mar 29, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Ian Turton wrote: On 28 March 2011 16:48, Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com wrote: Consider the following hypothetical problem: Assume we have a good elevation data set for a large region of the earth -- say, an entire mountain range. Now let's say we have a photograph taken from the ground, the horizon of which shows the profile of a couple of the mountains in that range. Can you tell me where the photograph was taken from? Any pointers to research in this area would be appreciated. I think that http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ does some of what you want. I'm on a very slow hotel internet connection so I can't actually get it to load just now. But my Delicious tags seem to indicate it's an answer. Yes, that is the one I have been thinking of since the start of this thread. Thanks Ian, for suggesting heywhatsthat.com. It was pointed out either on this list or on geowanking a long time ago, and I just couldn't remember it. It is pretty cool. Puneet. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss