Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Help needed in the GeoForAll Maps in the website

[b.j.kobben]

Quick check shows that the page is trying to load openlayers JS and CSS 
directly from the openlayers site https://openlayers.org/en/v4.2.0/css/ol.css
instead of from an CDN service (or from a local copy on the OSGEO servers 
itself); This is bad practice and now breaks the page because the address is no 
longer valid...

Also the Vue scripts in the page is a development/debug mode, not production 
mode.

I suggest whowever cerated these pages is asked to repair this...
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On 18/11/2018, 08:06, "Discuss on behalf of Suchith Anand" 
mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on 
behalf of 
suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:


The maps feature for displaying  the geographic distribution of GeoForAll labs 
in the main GeoForAll website https://www.osgeo.org/initiatives/geo-for-all/. 
is not working. Can any of you please help on this. Many thanks.




Best wishes,



Suchith


From: Suchith Anand
Sent: 18 November 2018 05:58
To: GeoForAll; osgeo
Subject: Welcoming University of Turku (UTU), Finland to GeoForAll


We are pleased to welcome University of Turku (UTU), Finland to GeoForAll.



UTU Geospatial consists of geospatial research, education and cooperation 
resources and activities at the University of Turku (UTU), Finland. Thier 
geospatial expertise is founded on multidisciplinary research and education and 
international cooperation globally. Geospatial data, Geographical Information 
Systems (GIS), Earth observation, digital cartography, locational technologies 
and various geospatial analyses and modelling methods are applied in natural 
and social sciences, economics, humanities, medical sciences and education ( 
http://geospatial.utu.fi ). The geospatial research and teaching activities at 
UTU stem from easy access to digital geospatial data, software and hardware 
combined with access to cloud-based computing environments. These include a 
wide range of digital GIS and image processing software with laboratory and 
mobile installations, and the use of mobile devices, such as laser scanners, 
UAVs, GPSs, GNSS receivers, as well as smart phones and tablets. UTU is a part 
of Fiuginet, Finnish University Network in Geoinformatics since 2008 and the 
regional Spatial Data Infrastructure hub in South-West Finland, Lounaispaikka, 
since 2002. UTU are also part of AGILE, Association of Geographic Information 
Laboratories in Europe and EARSeL, European Association of Remote Sensing 
Laboratories. UTU has strong geospatial research profile especially in the 
subjects of Geography, Geology, Biology and Archaeology. These address dynamic 
nature-human processes where spatio-temporal information at different scales 
are integrated with biophysical field measurements and knowledge from the local 
communities and society through place-based mapping methods. Mapping, analyses 
and visualization is enabled through these multidimensional models of the 
dynamic Earth. We have key research and education expertise in fluvial 
processes and flood modelling; land cover/land use mapping and land change 
analysis; biodiversity and mapping of forest dynamics; coastal and marine 
environments and marine spatial planning; urban climate and environmental 
change; participatory spatial planning and citizen-science approaches, and 
Earth observation and geospatial innovations and business development.



University of Turku colleagues are doing excellent research and education 
through their various research groups. Some examples below



Tanzania Research Team http://tanzania.utu.fi

Amazon Research Team  http://www.utu.fi/en/sites/amazon/Pages/home.aspx

Coastal Geography Group  https://www.utu.fi/en/sites/coastal/Pages/home.aspx

Fluvial Research Group  http://www.utu.fi/en/sites/fluvial/Pages/home.aspx

Urban Climate Research Group  
http://www.utu.fi/en/sites/climate/climate/turclim/Pages/home.aspx



We thank Niina Käyhkö and colleagues University of Turku for joining GeoForAll. 
We are looking forward to work with  colleagues in making geospatial education 
and digital economy opportunities available for all. Please join us at 
https://www.osgeo.org/initiatives/geo-for-all/lab-submission/





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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: OSGeo Board nomination: Victoria Rautenbach

[b.j.kobben]

I’m happy to second Victoria’s nomination!


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On 17/11/2018, 00:07, "Discuss on behalf of Vasile Craciunescu" 
mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on 
behalf of vas...@geo-spatial.org> wrote:

Forwarding nomination of Victoria Rautenbach by Astrid Emde and Jeff
McKenna. The Board Nominations page has been updated:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2018


Vasile, Vicky & Jorge
CRO 2018 Elections



 Forwarded Message 
Subject: OSGeo Board nomination: Victoria Rautenbach
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2018 23:49:53 +0100
From: Astrid Emde (OSGeo) mailto:astrid_e...@osgeo.org>>
Reply-To: astrid_e...@osgeo.org
To: Cro mailto:c...@osgeo.org>>
CC: victoria.rautenb...@gmail.com, Jeff 
McKenna
mailto:jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>>

Victoria Rautenbach
Pretoria, South Africa
victoria dot rautenbach at gmail dot com

It is our honour to nominate Victoria Rautenbach for the OSGeo Board of
Directors.

Many will know of Victoria’s effort and passion through several OSGeo
educational activities, where she helps young students and young
professionals become introduced to the OSGeo community of projects. She
is both an administrator and mentor for this year’s Google Code-in
contest (working with pre-university OSGeo students aged 13-17), and she
has also been a mentor for the Google Summer of Code the past years
(working with university OSGeo students).  She also helped with the UN
OpenGIS initiative as well.

For her day job Victoria Rautenbach is a senior lecturer in the
Department of Geography, Geoinformatics and Meteorology at the
University of Pretoria, South Africa.

She is a member of the ICA-OSGeo lab at the University of Pretoria since
its inception in 2012. She is very passionate about the use of open
source in education and also the increased use of open source in
developing countries. She teaches at the University of Pretoria and
makes use of open source GIS products in all the Geoinformatics modules
that she teaches.

She has organized a number of OpenStreetMap mapathons and arranged
student team participation in open data quests in South Africa.

Victoria would be a great asset to have on the Board. Please welcome her
onto the OSGeo Board of Directors.

https://www.osgeo.org/member/rautenbach/

Astrid Emde & Jeff McKenna

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-
Astrid Emde
OSGeo Board Member and OSGeo Secretary
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Website 15th relaunch - members and local chapters

[b.j.kobben]

Well, I created an OSGEO Userid, now let's hope it gets OKd ;-)

By the way, on the creation page it states "OSGeo user IDs provide access to 
many OSGeo services, including bug trackers and wikis. " You'd probably want to 
change that as I now understand the Wiki is the thing NOT included...?

Yours,


 
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On 11/01/2018, 13:41, "s...@kbt.io on behalf of Sandro Santilli"  
wrote:

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:55:25AM +, b.j.kob...@utwente.nl wrote:
> Hi Jody,
> 
> Something's not working as I expected: I thought "Login with your OSGeo 
id" meant I could use the ID and PW I have been using in the past (for the 
OSGOE wiki etc). But this does not seem the case. Do I really have to create a 
fully new account...?

The "OSGeo Wiki" is the only service _not_ Using the "OSGeo ID".
All the others ("etc."?) do.

Please read about it in:
http://www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid
(OSGEo Userid Enabled Services)

I'm really sorry and inconvenienced too about this duplication
of accounts. If you know anyone who can help fixing this situation
there's a ticket here that has been pending for 10 years now:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/165

--strk;


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Website 15th relaunch - members and local chapters

[b.j.kobben]

Hi Jody,

Something's not working as I expected: I thought "Login with your OSGeo id" 
meant I could use the ID and PW I have been using in the past (for the OSGOE 
wiki etc). But this does not seem the case. Do I really have to create a fully 
new account...?

--
Bestuur Stichting OSGEO.nl
Barend Köbben (Penningmeester)

On 11/01/2018, 03:56, "Discuss on behalf of Jody Garnett" 
 wrote:

Great news coming out of the system admin meeting - the OSGeo website is 
scheduled to go live Jan 15th!

The "staging" website is located here: https://staging.www.osgeo.org 



1. Login with your OSGeo id 


2. Fill in your profile information, taking special care to provide a photo 
and add yourself to your local chapter, along with any projects or committees 
you take part in.



We especially need your help reaching out to local chapters.


* https://staging.www.osgeo.org/local-chapters/


While our map (click filter to toggle on the map) is filling up some of the 
pages like OSGeo India are empty placeholders.



Thanks to everyone who worked so hard on this in 2017.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] final call friday - list local chapter in time for foss4g

[b.j.kobben]

It’s a nice website, but not without errors: I am very sure I did not put in 
the form that the location of our Dutch Chapter is Basel, Switzerland! 

BTW, there was no form entry for chapter logo, so how come some of them do have 
their logo, and others an generic sgeo logo...?

Also the filters do not work, or at least not correctly (in this LC page as 
well as in the GeoForAll pages)...

 
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On 14/08/2017, 17:39, "Discuss on behalf of Jody Garnett" 
 wrote:

Thank you to everyone who responded!


You can see the results here:

* http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/local-chapters/
* http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/resources/


If you encounter a difficulty with how the website works please check the 
issue tracker  to see if it has been 
reported (if so add a comment) or report it yourself.


--
Jody Garnett






On 9 August 2017 at 16:16, Jody Garnett 
 wrote:

Looks like I screwed up and did not send out the form for local chapters to 
fill in (so we are going to have a scramble).


Can I ask local chapters to fill in their contact details and location in 
the following form by friday to be listed in the beta website.


Data collection forms:

* Local Chapter 
* Resources 


A reminder that the Resources form is available to share any local 
promotional material or translated information sheets you would like to share.



I also invite you to review the updated style guide on

github  for 
examples of local chapter branding.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness Week

[b.j.kobben]

Quote: " The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,- "

This implies there is also a (higher?) non-educational fee, and also means IMHO 
that this system can NOT be considered OPEN in the usual definition and is 
therefore not something OSGEO shoudl be involved with...

Yours,

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Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
ITC Building (room 1-065)
@barendkobben
+31-(0)53 4874 253

From: Discuss  on behalf of Munich Orientation 
Convention 
Date: Tuesday 16 August 2016 at 09:02
To: 'Suchith Anand' , "discuss@lists.osgeo.org" 
, "standa...@lists.osgeo.org" 

Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geo4All - Empowering academics and educators 
globally - requesting colleagues to share Geo4All ideas at Geography Awareness 
Week

The license fee for educational purposes is symbolically EUR 1,-
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: nomination of Erik Meerburg as OSGeo charter member

[b.j.kobben]

Seconding this nomination: Erik is a true OS champion in the Netherlands, and 
in his daily  job he has probably taught more people about using FOSS then the 
rest of us combined

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ITC Building (room 1-065)
@barendkobben
+31-(0)53 4874 253

From: Discuss  on behalf of Vasile Craciunescu 

Date: Tuesday 19 July 2016 at 08:48
To: OSGeo Discussions 
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: nomination of Erik Meerburg as OSGeo charter 
member

Forwarding Erik Meerburg nomination by Gert-Jan van der Weijden.

Best regards,
Vasile
2016 OSGeo Elections CRO


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: nomination of  Erik Meerburg as OSGeo charter member
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:26:26 +0200
From: Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl 
>
Organization: Stichting OSGeo.nl
To: c...@osgeo.org
CC: 'Erik Meerburg' >

Dear CRO,

I'd like to nominate Erik Meerburg as an OSGeo charter member.


Knowing Erik for more than 10 years, he is still able to surprise me with
his enthusiasm and ideas about cartography, crowdsourced & open data and
open source software for geospatial.

Over the last few years Erik has been heavily involved in co-organizing
FOSS4G-related events, and thus in spreading knowledge on how to use open
source software and data.


With his original and authentic ideas and approach I regard Erik as a great
addition to the collection of OSGeo Charter Members.




Kind regards,

Gert-Jan van der Weijden

Voorzitter Stichting OSGeo.nl / Chair of the OSGeo Dutch local chapter
"OSGeo.nl"


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UK local chapter

[b.j.kobben]

Hello Jo,

Cordial best wishes from the Dutch Language chapter...!

Barend
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NL72 INGB 0006276370 ten name van STICHTING OSGEO.NL
SWIFT/BIC:INGBNL2A
Kamer van Koophandel: 58214763






On 21/03/16 16:54, "Jo Cook"  wrote:


Hi All,

This is just a heads up that the UK local chapter, having muddled along
happily as a group of interested individuals for almost 10 years, is now
an unincorporated organisation under UK law, with a constitution setting
out our aims and powers. If you're
 interested, there's a link to it at uk.osgeo.org .
tldr; we will support the aims of the global OSGeo foundation.

Under UK law, this is the "least formal" sort of organisation that you can
have, but it does allow us to have our own bank account. Due to
circumstances beyond our control, our previous banking arrangement is no
longer available to us...

... and of course we definitely need our own bank account
for our fabulous FOSS4GUK 2016 event, at the Ordnance Survey offices in
Southampton, from the 14th to the 16th of June!
http://uk.osgeo.org/foss4guk2016/

All the best

Jo



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Journal] OSGeo Journal - Call for Contributions

[b.j.kobben]

Hi Landon,

Just a reminder that the Academic Track committee of FOSS4G2014 is at the 
moment doing a final review round to determine where each Academic Track paper 
is to be published (if anywhere). Some of those might come up for the OSGEO 
Journal, as of yet we do not know if there's enough to fill a special issue or 
maybe we just have a few in a regular issue.  We hope to have the selection and 
final editing before Christmas, so that 'production' could start in 2015.

Yours,
Barend Köbben


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Senior Lecturer - ITC-University of Twente
PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
@barendkobben



On 22-10-2014 23:47, Landon Blake 
sunburned.surve...@gmail.commailto:sunburned.surve...@gmail.com wrote:

We are getting ready to (finally) publish the annual report for 2012. I'm going 
to experiment with a slimmer journal published bi-monthly or quarterly instead 
of once a year.

We'll start this experiment with a Fall 2014 Issue of the Journal.

I invite Chapters, Software Projects, and Committees to submit reports just 
like they normally do for the Annual Report. This round of submittals can cover 
activities from January 2013 to September 2014.

I'll also need a volunteer for an interview. Please don't be shy.

If you want to contribute a topical article or tutorial for this issue, that 
would also help. I'd like to get submissions by October 31. I'll plan on 
publishing by the middle of November.

You can send your articles directly to me 
(sunburned.surve...@gmail.commailto:sunburned.surve...@gmail.com) or to the 
Newsletter mailing list. All we need is your word processing document and any 
photos or graphics. We will take care of the rest.

I really appreciate the help and support.

Thanks!

Landon
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inquiry

[b.j.kobben]

Interesting.  I known that this kind of thing has been done using aerial 
photographs, among others by a  research group at my University. I have cc-d 
one of its members (Sander Oude-elberink), he might be able to further guide 
you…

Yours,
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Senior Lecturer – ITC-University of Twente
PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (Netherlands)
@barendkobben



On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:25 PM, S.A. Mouti 
mou...@outlook.commailto:mou...@outlook.com wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,

I would like to develop an algorithm that uses remote geographic sensing data 
to automatically identify, highlight, and measure rooftops and buildings 
surfaces and contours using satellite imagery. Our preference is to utilize the 
existing  map providers such as Google Earth/maps or Bing .

 My aim is to get the following outputs from the proposed model:

  *   Accurately highlighted and identified rooftops on Google maps (using geo 
sensing data, elevation? and
  *   Property Address or GPS coordinate.
  *   Surface and square footage available for solar power generation including 
the position of the property(N-S or E-W). At the exact surface of the south 
facing portion of the roof.
  *   Integrate sun tool in google maps to calculate shading for each building.
  *   Total surface/square footage of the roof.

I would appreciate your guidance on the following:

  *   Any individual developers or companies active in this area who would be 
willing to undertake this challenge
  *   View on technical do-ability of the project
  *   What data is needed to build the model and who the providers are? (Google 
APIs?)
  *   An idea about the overall cost  for such a model.

Thank you

Sid
713 992 6314tel:713%20992%206314

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members

[b.j.kobben]

I am very dissapointed in this whole membership/fees discussion. In
reading the emails one does not see the international volunteer community
I would like to think OSGEO is (should be), but it rather seems we are
dealing with a US-based professional organisation, mostly keen on not
paying US taxes, and that is not what I want OSGEO to become...


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On 23-06-14 21:00, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote:


On 06/19/2014 11:58 AM, Peter Baumann wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 good - and important! - discussion!
 Being Charter Member I am somewhat concerned:
 
 - I am surprised that the common democratic procedure of election is
 perceived as creating dissent.

Well it's somewhat conjecture without public confirmation that someone
walked away from OSGeo because they didn't get picked.

 - yes, democracy is expensive, but generally it is considered worth the
 effort.
 - is lifelong membership compatible with community participation?

Nope and we've actually have discussed in the past what the rules should
be to weed out charter members who no longer particpate in the community.

 - Recognised OSGeo Community Leaders seem to get determined in a very
 special, selective way (as compared to standard election procedures).
 
 Altogether, the criteria seem to make OSGeo a self-sustaining group:
 insiders will remain insiders for a lifetime, outsiders will...well,
 face a hurdle.
 
 So the contrary of open.
 
 Just an idea: what about applying the OSGeo incubation checklist to
 OSGeo itself to determine feasible procedures?
 
 cheers,
 Peter

I think the discussion of membership fees is timely this year now that
we officially have our IRS 501c4 status. Why, well when we were aiming
for 501c3 that would have given us donations as tax write offs for US
members. Without that incentive to donate, membership now seems like it
might be the way to push individuals to donate.

The amount should be researched quite a bit though, factoring in how to
reach maximum membership, with lowest overhead (collecting and tracking
membership will incur a cost).

Since we don't maintain a huge office, an in print journal, a lobbyist
or things like that we should be able to be much lower that other
professional societies. I agree it should be relative to country of
members, and there probably should be some sharing in places where local
chapters exist - or the local chapters trust us to split the money back
to them for things they need.

I'd suggest something in the $20-$30 US, students $5-$10. Maybe with a
sliding scale like PBS or Kickstarter, where if you voluntarily pay more
in a given year you get swag of some sort.

I'm trying to avoid the syndrome (I'm guilty of this) where one pays for
membership only in a year when it will get you a discount worth more
than the membership for the conference.

I agree with Arnulf that these decisions should probably go to e-vote of
all the current charter members, the boards responsibility is to put
forward a coherent plan for the vote. Obviously if the board all hates
the ideas it should stop there for now.

Thanks,
Alex




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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo rep at FOSS4G-Europe 2014?

[b.j.kobben]

Interesting to see that according to this mail FOSS4G-Europe is now being
part of OSGeo's own conference series, FOSS4G. Is that also true for
FOSS4G-NA, or others?

Seriously, I would advise the OSGEO Board to spend some quality time in
upcoming meetings to determine a strategy on OSGeo's own conference
series. At the moment it seems the 'brand' is slipping away from OSGEO's
grip. Maybe we/you do not see this as a problem, or think it is inevitable
or even desirable, but it would be good if at least it was a conscious
decision in some way...

yours,

Barend Köbben
OSGEO Charter Member


On 18-12-13 09:48, Peter Baumann p.baum...@jacobs-university.de wrote:

Hi Jeff and all,

you've raised an important point, let me ask this for FOSS4G-Europe, too.
Being part of OSGeo's own conference series, FOSS4G, this conference
represents
an important contribution in the worldwide network of FOSS4Gs. Further,
FOSS4G-E
will host the NASA Worldwind Europe Challenge student contest winners,
and we
are working on co-locating a Big Earth Data conference in addition.

The organizing team is most eager to welcome (and present, of course)
OSGeo
representatives. I'll be glad to enter into conversation to arrange all.

cheers,
Peter

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Papers for FOSS4G 2013 Academic Track

[b.j.kobben]

Dear Venka and Massimiliano,

I feel we have to defend the Foss4G2013 AT a bit here (as AT co-chairs we
should ;-)

It is actually not true that Previous FOSS4G's had abstract review by the
academic committee
and selected authors were asked to submit full papers closer to the
conference dates.
Both in the 2010 and 2011 conferences we had submission of full papers,
not abstracts. 

The reason for this is that academics nowadays need to publish, if we want
or not, and that means we have to offer a possibility of official
publishing for the AT papers. The only way to achieve that is have journal
outlets secured well beforehand and for that you need to set up a Journal
Type submission and reviewing system, which means selection of full
papers. Having to first select promising abstract, then ask these people
to write full papers, and then have these properly peer-reviewed, all
before the conference publication deadline, would mean we'd need an even
earlier deadline.
This by the way is nowadays accepted academic practice at conferences that
offer Jopurnal publication outputs.

I agree that 7 months before the conference seems like a very early
deadline, but for the reviewing process, the editing and processing of
accepted papers and preparation of manuscripts for publication, it
actually is quite a tight time table. Note that the advantage is that if
your paper is accepted, you are assured of it being actually published at
the conference date, something may academics are keen for...

Note also that the normal (non AT) tracks at Foss4G continue to offer
submission and reviewing based on abstracts.

We will have this year (as in previous years) an Academic Committee. These
are the people that will be asked to do the full paper reviewing, and we
have just this week invited candidates and have asked them to agree to do
this important task. The list will appear on the site once the reviewing
process starts.

I hope this answers some of your questions.


For further questions, comments and remarks, please don't hesitate to
contact the Academic Track co-chairs:

* Franz-Josef Behr (Stuttgart University of Applied Sciences):
franz-josef.b...@hft-stuttgart.de
* Barend Köbben (ITC-University of Twente): kob...@itc.nl



 



On 2013/01/23 18:49, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

From the web page:



We invite academics and researchers to submit full papers in English,
of maximum 6,000 words, before the deadline of 1 February 2013.
Templates for submissions in a variety of formats can be found here,
and detailed requirements, regarding layout, formatting and the
submission process, can be found on the FOSS4G 2103 Academic Track
submission pages at http://2013.foss4g.org/ojs/


This is clear...

but then my question is:
- Why do I have to submit a paper without knowing if I'm going to be select
for presentation?
- And why 7 months before of the conference?

It looks to me quite strange...
Previous FOSS4G's had abstract review by the academic committee
and selected authors were asked to submit full papers closer to
the conference dates.

I see that we do not have an academic committee in place for FOSS4G 2013
and I agree with Maxi that the submission 1 Feb 2013 deadline for
FOSS4G-2013
Academic track is too early.

Venka


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Papers for FOSS4G 2013 Academic Track

[b.j.kobben]

Just a quick reply:

1- we did publish the Call for Papers, with the current setup, already in
October last year. Details about the publication outlets and numbers we
aim for (8-10 in Transactions of GIS and 10-12 in OSGEO Journal) are in
there, and were on the website from that time. We did set this up  in
consultation with a group of people, a core group we call Academic Track
committee (mostly organizers of previous Academic Tracks).

2- we did look at the previous efforts and in fact copied much of it. What
did change was the intention to have publication outlets secured
beforehand, and that indeed moved the deadlines forward.

3- papers were published in some years: some 2011 conference papers
appeared in the OSGeo Journal Volume 10, published in February 2012; some
2009 papers in volume 8 (Feb 2011); We wanted to have this better
organised, and that wish was actually coming from the OSGEO board: In the
MOU with the ICA this was one of the points discussed and in fact this
resulted in OSGEO asking me to organize this for the 2012 Beijing
conference (which never took of).

4- Note that anyone wanting so, can register themselves as Reviewer on the
Submission site (2013.foss4g.org/ojs/);  The list of reviewers we have
invited specifically (let's call that the the scientific committee) was
constructed in discussions with the smaller AT group and the LOC, so as to
at least have a large enough group of people with a varied knowledge
field. There's  some 50 people on this list, and those that accept will be
published soon on the site.

Yours,
Barend Köbben
 


On 25-01-13 17:58, nicolas bozon nicolas.bo...@gmail.com wrote:




Hello,

Thanks for discussing this important topic.

The last global FOSS4G editions gathered on average 800+ attendees i
think. I have no clues on how many of them sumitted or attended the
academic track, but i know that this side of the conference is really
important, and that the rules should not be changed
 without discussion or without some voting by the Academic and Conference
comitees. Of course it won't necessarly bring some new sponsors or direct
business output each year, but it has been part of FOSS4G since its
inception in 2006, and even before, from
 2004 since the first GRASS and MapServer meetings, with all the
motivated activists, developers, researchers and professors we know.
Also there are so many active people that are using, developping and
promoting the use of FOSS4G in academia, education and research nowadays,
so the academic session should be improved, or at least not be changed
like this, IMHO.

An important point is that the Academic Commitee was always formed before
the call for Abstract and the selection and reviewing process, as Maxi
and Venka pointed out.
I've participated to the academic track since 2008, and once again as
Maxi said, i've also always sumitted an abstract first, then been acepted
or rejected by the comitee, and then finally submited a full paper (or a
poster) some time before the conference.
After that, none of my papers were published in any journals (ok, may be
they were bad i reckon, but what about the others ?). I know that that
there were a few intiatitives to publish some of the papers, but i could
never read the academic FOSS4G procedings
 in any scientific journals i know (i'm may be wrong once again, but
could someone bring some facts on this ? How many papers where finally
published since 2006 and where ?), or may be in the OSGeo journal i just
don't know, sorry.

This being said, i fully understand that calling, selecting, reviewing
and publishing papers takes a long time. This is really true, but what
the LOC is targeting this time ? How many papers could be really
published ? What journal exactly ? Should i subscribe
 to the University of Sherwood to be hopefully published (private joke) ?
And who will take care of this very time-consuming task ? Who is being
called for particpating to the Academic comittee (would it be public soon
btw) ? Who will organize and chair the different sessions of the Academic
Track exactly ? I'm sorry for so much
 questions, but i think that would be interesting to know right now for
submiters or potential authors, before one week, before trying to submit
in fact.

Anyway, i'm also thinking that these new rules and such a short deadline
would just refrain submissions to the Academic track, and would finally
make it poorer. I think that many professors, researchers and students
won't sumit or will be more comfortable with
 subitting to the general track, just to avoid impossible deadlines and
writing efforts, not being sure to be published somewhere. That'd just be
a pitty.

Sorry for such a long email

Best regards,

Nick




2013/1/25 Massimiliano Cannata massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch

Hi,
FWIW, I have to say that as far as i remember (and I participate at all
of the FOSS4G meeting from Bangkok to Denver) I always:
- submitted and abstract,
- got acceptance or not as presenter,
- provided a