Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Miles Fidelman]

Ok.  But, and this may be a dumb question, it's a very fancy, expensive 
looking camera - one presumes that the person taking the pictures has 
the software that goes with it.  Can one not ask the person providing 
the imagery to convert the raw files to a more usable format?


Miles Fidelman


On 3/21/18 8:03 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
They don't list prices for their software and there are no downloads. 
I am guessing they charge for the software and knowing this company 
it's not going to be cheap.



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Miles Fidelman 
> wrote:


According to the camera's data sheet, their FramePro software will
take the proprietary format and output "Distortion-free, 8 and
16-bit JPEG, TIFF and BSQ images with RGB, RGBN, NRG, NIR and NDVI
band combinations"

It doesn't really seem unreasonable for a camera to use a
proprietary internal format, as long as they provide software to
convert it to standard formats. Particularly if it's a camera with
some special sensor characteristics.

The real question is whether they provide their software with the
camera, or whether you have to pay beaucoup bucks for it.

Miles Fidelman



On 3/21/18 7:13 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:

I just upgraded but no luck with this file. Leica still sells
this camera so they have no incentive to open up their formats.
You can only process this file with their software apparently.



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug
> wrote:

Tim,
A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also,
http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats



Doug

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun
> wrote:

Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like
this raw file is proprietary so nothing is going to open it.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug
> wrote:

Have you looked at darktable ,
https://www.darktable.org/? It works with a lot of
Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any
georeferencing information that might be associated
with the image.

Doug

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun
> wrote:

Hi All.

I am trying to deal with output from a Leica
RCD30 camera used in Aerial surveying. The camera
outputs .RAW files but these files are not
recognized by any of the tools I have used so
far. Oddly enough they actually have tiff headers
but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.

If anybody has any experience decoding these
files and turning them into geotiffs I would
appreciate it if they dropped me a line.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Tim Uckun]

They don't list prices for their software and there are no downloads. I am
guessing they charge for the software and knowing this company it's not
going to be cheap.


On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Miles Fidelman  wrote:

> According to the camera's data sheet, their FramePro software will take
> the proprietary format and output "Distortion-free, 8 and 16-bit JPEG, TIFF
> and BSQ images with RGB, RGBN, NRG, NIR and NDVI band combinations"
>
> It doesn't really seem unreasonable for a camera to use a proprietary
> internal format, as long as they provide software to convert it to standard
> formats.  Particularly if it's a camera with some special sensor
> characteristics.
>
> The real question is whether they provide their software with the camera,
> or whether you have to pay beaucoup bucks for it.
>
> Miles Fidelman
>
>
>
> On 3/21/18 7:13 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
>
> I just upgraded but no luck with this file. Leica still sells this camera
> so they have no incentive to open up their formats. You can only process
> this file with their software apparently.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>> A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also,
>> http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>>
>>> Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this raw file
>>> is proprietary so nothing is going to open it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works
 with a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any
 georeferencing information that might be associated with the image.

 Doug

 On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in
> Aerial surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not
> recognized by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they
> actually have tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.
>
> If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them
> into geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Miles Fidelman]

According to the camera's data sheet, their FramePro software will take 
the proprietary format and output "Distortion-free, 8 and 16-bit JPEG, 
TIFF and BSQ images with RGB, RGBN, NRG, NIR and NDVI band combinations"


It doesn't really seem unreasonable for a camera to use a proprietary 
internal format, as long as they provide software to convert it to 
standard formats.  Particularly if it's a camera with some special 
sensor characteristics.


The real question is whether they provide their software with the 
camera, or whether you have to pay beaucoup bucks for it.


Miles Fidelman



On 3/21/18 7:13 PM, Tim Uckun wrote:
I just upgraded but no luck with this file. Leica still sells this 
camera so they have no incentive to open up their formats. You can 
only process this file with their software apparently.




On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug > wrote:


Tim,
A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also,
http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats


Doug

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun > wrote:

Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this
raw file is proprietary so nothing is going to open it.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug
> wrote:

Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?
It works with a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it
will handle any georeferencing information that might be
associated with the image.

Doug

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun
> wrote:

Hi All.

I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30
camera used in Aerial surveying. The camera outputs
.RAW files but these files are not recognized by any
of the tools I have used so far. Oddly enough they
actually have tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff
doesn't work either.

If anybody has any experience decoding these files and
turning them into geotiffs I would appreciate it if
they dropped me a line.

Thanks in advance.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Tim Uckun]

I just upgraded but no luck with this file. Leica still sells this camera
so they have no incentive to open up their formats. You can only process
this file with their software apparently.



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 4:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug  wrote:

> Tim,
> A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also, http://rawpedia.
> rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>
>> Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this raw file
>> is proprietary so nothing is going to open it.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works
>>> with a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any
>>> georeferencing information that might be associated with the image.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>>>
 Hi All.

 I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in
 Aerial surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not
 recognized by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they
 actually have tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.

 If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them
 into geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.

 Thanks in advance.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Newcomb, Doug]

http://rawtherapee.com/blog/rawtherapee-5.4-released

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:28 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
wrote:

> Tim,
> A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also, http://rawpedia.
> rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats
>
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>
>> Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this raw file
>> is proprietary so nothing is going to open it.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works
>>> with a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any
>>> georeferencing information that might be associated with the image.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>>>
 Hi All.

 I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in
 Aerial surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not
 recognized by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they
 actually have tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.

 If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them
 into geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.

 Thanks in advance.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Newcomb, Doug]

Tim,
A new version of Rawtherapee came out today,  Also,
http://rawpedia.rawtherapee.com/Adding_Support_for_New_Raw_Formats

Doug

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 8:18 AM, Tim Uckun  wrote:

> Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this raw file is
> proprietary so nothing is going to open it.
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
> wrote:
>
>> Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works
>> with a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any
>> georeferencing information that might be associated with the image.
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All.
>>>
>>> I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in Aerial
>>> surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not recognized
>>> by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they actually have
>>> tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.
>>>
>>> If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them into
>>> geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Tim Uckun]

Yea that was one of the first ones I tried. It looks like this raw file is
proprietary so nothing is going to open it.

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Newcomb, Doug 
wrote:

> Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works with
> a lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any georeferencing
> information that might be associated with the image.
>
> Doug
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:
>
>> Hi All.
>>
>> I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in Aerial
>> surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not recognized
>> by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they actually have
>> tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.
>>
>> If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them into
>> geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Newcomb, Doug]

Have you looked at darktable , https://www.darktable.org/?  It works with a
lot of Raw image formats.  Not sure if it will handle any georeferencing
information that might be associated with the image.

Doug

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:02 PM, Tim Uckun  wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in Aerial
> surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not recognized
> by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they actually have
> tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.
>
> If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them into
> geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

[Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)]

This has been suggested as a possibele tool to help,
but I cannot speak to it from experience.
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/

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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Dealing with proprietary data using OSS tools.

Hi All.

I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in Aerial 
surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not recognized by 
any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they actually have tiff 
headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.

If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them into 
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[Tim Uckun]

Hi All.

I am trying to deal with output from a Leica RCD30 camera used in Aerial
surveying. The camera outputs .RAW files but these files are not recognized
by any of the tools I have used so far.  Oddly enough they actually have
tiff headers but renaming them to .tiff doesn't work either.

If anybody has any experience decoding these files and turning them into
geotiffs I would appreciate it if they dropped me a line.

Thanks in advance.
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