RE: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly won't play AAC files
Quoting Neil Coburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: See attached thanks. Well, good news is that its still recognising the AAC and seems to be starting playback properly. bad news is that its immediately stopping, and without showing how in this log. Did you run this command-line or did you grab the log from the web page? if you look in that log, where it shows the command line for conversion: C:\PROGRA~1\SLIMSE~1\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\mov123.exe C:\Documents and Settings\Neil\My Documents\My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music\10,000 Maniacs\Love Among The Ruins\01 Rainy Day.m4a | C:\PROGRA~1\SLIMSE~1\server\Bin\lame.exe --resample 44100 --silent -q -b 320 -r - - | what happens if you try to use this command line directly at a DOS prompt? I'm expecting some sort of error from mov123.exe. to simplify, you can even try it without the last half (the lame.exe part from | to |) -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
AW: [slim] Slimserver on Hermstedt Hifidelio
Ok. - First I had to enable a telnet session for the hifidelio box. This is described in the hifidelio user forum. Short form : Take update iso-image, change rc.local script to copy telnet session. If somebody is interested I can send him the modified iso-image - Now copy the Slimserver perl source to the Hifidelio import folder. (samba share on Hifidelio) You can get access to this folder with normal smb-client (Windows, MAC, Linux) - with telnet I created a new directory (/usr/local/slimserver/) - with telnet I copied slim source to this directory and extracted it with gzip and tar - now I could start the server with the command perl /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl --daemon - at then end I edited the rc.local script and added the (perl /usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl --daemon) command to the script for running slimserver on startup. Now you can connect with the Squeezebox wireless interface to the Hifidelio. No accesspoint is needed. I think it's a very simple multiroom system and much more powerful if you compare it e.g. to the Yamaha system. And much cheaper as well. Regards Beat -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von dean blackketter Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Marz 2005 00:34 An: Slim Devices Discussion Betreff: Re: [slim] Slimserver on Hermstedt Hifidelio We'd love it if you could post some more details! On Mar 8, 2005, at 3:18 PM, Beat Graf wrote: Hi I installed Slimserver on standalone Music Server Hifidelio from Hermstedt. http://www.hermstedt.de/english/hifidelio/hifidelio.html What is Hifidelio ? CD-Player, MP3-Player, Server (Linux), WLan AP, Audio-Recorder, CD-Ripper, CD-Burner all built on Linux-Platform. All you need is one or more Squeezeboxes, the Hifidelio and nothing else for a running system. Who is interested in more details just ask. Regards Beat ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wired to wireless squeezebox
Can I ask if I have a spare Wifi receiver available, can I just buy the wired model and connect the receiver to get the full function of the wireless model? Thanks ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired to wireless squeezebox
Quoting Arthur Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Can I ask if I have a spare Wifi receiver available, can I just buy the wired model and connect the receiver to get the full function of the wireless model? if it is a wireless bridge, yes. if it is a pcmcia card, no. the wired squeezebox comes without the required connector for holding the card. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fast forward/reverse and long recordings
I run into this problem a lot. I timeshift programs every day and often want to skip a bit or pick up a programme in the middle. With the Squeezebox I find this impossible. With Winamp there is a slider which acts as a progress bar but can also be picked up with the mouse and slid. As you slide it the track position indicator changes, so you can drop it pretty much exactly where you want it. Unfortunately the progress bar in Fishbone only acts as a progress bar, as far as I can tell. An option use the remote to jump +-5 or 10 (or user-configurable) minutes would be a workable compromise. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Fast forward/reverse and long recordings
Quoting bart maguire [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I run into this problem a lot. I timeshift programs every day and often want to skip a bit or pick up a programme in the middle. With the Squeezebox I find this impossible. With Winamp there is a slider which acts as a progress bar but can also be picked up with the mouse and slid. As you slide it the track position indicator changes, so you can drop it pretty much exactly where you want it. Unfortunately the progress bar in Fishbone only acts as a progress bar, as far as I can tell. An option use the remote to jump +-5 or 10 (or user-configurable) minutes would be a workable compromise. I wrote a plugin a while back to manually scroll through a song using a progress bar-like interface. You still have to go into the plugin, but it will let you find the time index that you want on the currently playing song and you can press play to jump to that position. It does not work with transcoded songs, and I've only just updated it for 6.0b1 (not much testing yet). its available here: http://www.deane-freeman.com/sb2/ -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox2 wireless interference question
I'll definitly be getting a SB2 any moment now, for it fixes all of the little qualms I might have had with the SB1 hardware. I can't decide which version to get, though. The wireless version is finally compatible with my existing wireless network, but on the other hand I already have a dedicated bridge for my wired one so I could use that again. Question: Are there any disadvantages in having the radio and one antenna internal? I'm thinking interference, added noise in the analog stages ... C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired to wireless squeezebox
Hi Arthur If you are speaking of SB1 then yes. With the new SB2 you 'loose' the integrated bridging ability, but all the rest is about the same. Felix --- Arthur Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I ask if I have a spare Wifi receiver available, can I just buy the wired model and connect the receiver to get the full function of the wireless model? Thanks ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 wireless interference question
Christian, If you're on the fence, and the $50 price delta is not a huge concern, definitely go for the wireless model. Even if you don't need it now, your setup might change later. The built-in wireless interface is certainly much easier to set up, and more elegant that hooking up a separate 801.11g bridge. Anyway to answer your question, there is no significant interference in terms of audio performance from the wireless radio. In SB2 all of the CPU/memory/radio components are mounted on their own circuit board, and use their own separate power supply. Sean On Mar 9, 2005, at 1:55 AM, Christian Pernegger wrote: I'll definitly be getting a SB2 any moment now, for it fixes all of the little qualms I might have had with the SB1 hardware. I can't decide which version to get, though. The wireless version is finally compatible with my existing wireless network, but on the other hand I already have a dedicated bridge for my wired one so I could use that again. Question: Are there any disadvantages in having the radio and one antenna internal? I'm thinking interference, added noise in the analog stages ... C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Any chance on a trade-in program? :) Sorry, not for squeezebox2 - all the hardware is new, so it's not just a matter of swapping out a few bits. However, I recently heard of an original Slimp3 going for £400 ($770 USD) might be worth holding on to it. :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 wireless interference question
If you're on the fence, and the $50 price delta is not a huge concern, definitely go for the wireless model. Wow, that was quick. I'm less concerned with the $50 for wireless than I am with the $60 for shipping. It was around $30 for the SB1 but maybe that was because it was on sale. Anyway to answer your question, there is no significant interference in terms of audio performance from the wireless radio. In SB2 all of the CPU/memory/radio components are mounted on their own circuit board, and use their own separate power supply. Thanks for the info - got the wireless one. You might want to consider offering a snail mail (i.e. USPS), as regular mail is almost never checked by customs, while UPS are :) C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
* Sean Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050309 02:34]: Sorry, not for squeezebox2 - all the hardware is new, so it's not just a matter of swapping out a few bits. Well, the case looks about the same! ;) Yeah, I figured as much. I live in Mountain View, so I'll probably put in an order and drive over to pick it up sometime next month... pending the wife's approval. :) However, I recently heard of an original Slimp3 going for ?400 ($770 USD) might be worth holding on to it. :) Wow. Yeah, maybe I'll just sell it to a friend for cheap to get another person hooked on squeezebonics. :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 wireless interference question
Christian Pernegger: You might want to consider offering a snail mail (i.e. USPS), as regular mail is almost never checked by customs, while UPS are :) However, I believe that Slim is still required to stick one of those little green custom forms on it, stating whether it's merchandise or gift, and the value. Ben Rubinstein | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cognitive Applications Ltd | Phone: +44 (0)1273-821600 http://www.cogapp.com| Fax : +44 (0)1273-728866 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: AlienBBC vs DAB (was Re: [slim] (UK) Powered speakers for SB)
On 8/3/05 at 10:58 pm +, BenRubinstein wrote If I attempt installation of AlienBBC, is it likely that I can destabilise the whole thing; No. or is the worse case that I fail to get AlienBBC working? Yes. - I haven't seen any recent posts on the lists about installing Alien BBC on OS X - is that because all the pioneers have already tried, and the rest have given up; or because it's now straightforward, and everyone who's tried it recently just got it working without further ado? I've been waiting till newer versions of SlimServer come out before trying the newer AlienBBC. Hence no recent comments from me. My original installation ultimately worked ok. But the last time I tried to use it I had trouble, due at least in part to the complete overhaul by the BBC of their setup. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver on Hermstedt Hifidelio
On 9/3/05 at 12:18 am +0100, Beat Graf wrote Hi I installed Slimserver on standalone Music Server Hifidelio from Hermstedt. http://www.hermstedt.de/english/hifidelio/hifidelio.html What is Hifidelio ? CD-Player, MP3-Player, Server (Linux), WLan AP, Audio-Recorder, CD-Ripper, CD-Burner all built on Linux-Platform. All you need is one or more Squeezeboxes, the Hifidelio and nothing else for a running system. Who is interested in more details just ask. Good to know, as when I saw Hifidelio at a show they knew of Squeezebox, but hadn't tested it as a player. It is in many respects a nice idea, as a dedicated music computer it allows automated ripping of CDs and looking at a CD database, etc. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fast forward/reverse and long recordings
On 9/3/05 at 12:04 am -0500, Lars Kellogg-Stedman wrote I've recently started tivoing the audio streams from a number of radio stations (both Internet streams via mplayer and broadcast audio via a cheap receiver from craigslist and LIRC). Mostly I'm time-shifting NPR news programs, but there's also some interesting BBC stuff on overnight. In any case, listening to these recordings on the slimserver is a mixed experience -- a typical program is an hour long, and some may be as long as three hours. Trying to return to the middle of a program using the existing fast forward feature is an exercise in patience. Is there a better way? I'd like to see +10min/-10min buttons -- in the web interface if not via the remote (although perhaps holding down the FF button longer could result in larger increments). Heck, I'd like to see +/-N, where N is a user configureable value. I'm curious if anyone else has pondered solutions to this situation. Cheers, There is a Song Scanner plugin. It's fairly easy to modify to scan much faster than its basic setting. This is using SlimServer 5.4, I don't know if plugins will break when using 6. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Since the buffer size is different and one support FLAC natively, will there be issues syncing a SB with a SB2? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Yes, I must use it wirelessly so it is a problem for me. Larry On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:20:12 -0800, Phil Karn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry Truesdale wrote: I'm happy that you're continuing to innovate and progress, but I have to say that I'm dissappointed that native FLAC support still isn't (and I'm guessing never will be) supported on the first SB. FLAC support was the reason why I originally chose SlimDevices and when I realized after getting it installed that FLAC wasn't supported natively, I seriously considered returning it. However, I took the risk and this is how its turned out. Other than that and the related inability to seek forwards and backwards, I've been happy. Is there any chance that native FLAC will ever be supported on SB1? Why is this important to you? Are you running on a wireless network? On a wired network, especially at 100 Mb/s, the extra network loading of uncompressed PCM is just not significant at all. Nor is the load of the FLAC decoder on the server CPU; here it's just a few percent at most. There are some times that the squeezebox buffer underruns when the server is doing other things like rebuilding its database, but that could be fixed with some attention to proper priority levels for the various threads that make up the slimserver. So while it would certainly be nice to have native FLAC decoding, I don't see its omission on the original Squeezebox to be all that much of a problem, at least for the wired model. I do think the new native FLAC decoding plus 801.11g support on the wireless model is a very worthy improvement. I had held off buying a wireless model mainly because of the lack of 802.11g support. Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss -- Larry Truesdale [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Sean Adams wrote: Squeezebox2 has completely done away with all the limitations - we're now doing all of the audio decoding and DSP work in software, and this gave me the freedom to design the digital outputs and analog stages exactly the way I wanted them. Please see the FAQ and the hardware specs page for details on the new design. If all audio decoding is now done in software, is there any chance the Squeezebox2 will ever decode ogg natively? I have most of my music in ogg format, and the way they are played now (with decoding-recoding on the server side) is not really optimal. Krist ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:18:40 +0100, /rist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all audio decoding is now done in software, is there any chance the Squeezebox2 will ever decode ogg natively? I have most of my music in ogg format, and the way they are played now (with decoding-recoding on the server side) is not really optimal. Set it to transcode to flac (or pcm with pre squeeze2) instead of mp3 and the audio shouldn't degrade any because there is no lossy encode of the vorbis encoded. But yeah - ogg decoding on the squeezebox would be nice. I stopped using ogg and went back to mp3 because almost no devices supported it ... that needs to change. I prefer free (as in speech). Software patents (imho) generally suck (as in american beer). -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Squeezebox2
Well, I'm glad to see the FREEPONY made it in there Sean. It's also nice to see the addition of the eye-candy this time around. People can scoff if they like, but groovy UV meters bumping out the beat are going to sell more than a few Squeezeboxes to folks who otherwise might be a competitors product. Is anyone interested in my MKI SB? I will sell for $175, pending arrival of my SB2 of course. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Adams Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:30 PM To: Slim Devices Discussion; Slim Devices Developers Subject: [slim] Squeezebox2 Hi everyone, Lots of folks noticed that we were running low on inventory, spending less time here, and working our butts off on SlimServer 6. As suspected, there is a new product. Squeezebox2 is in full production now, and the first units will ship on March 31. Squeezebox2 addresses all of the top performance and functionality requests that come up here every day. 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput FLAC: for reduced bandwidth usage More memory: for better streaming of PCM audio over wireless I'm just getting started... don't worry, I'll get to the pony. :) Although I don't often contribute to the audiophile discussions, I really do enjoy reading them. Regardless of who can hear what, the fact is that there are indeed some real measurable characteristics such as output levels, THD+N, and clock precision where we had room for significant improvement. Squeezebox2 has completely done away with all the limitations - we're now doing all of the audio decoding and DSP work in software, and this gave me the freedom to design the digital outputs and analog stages exactly the way I wanted them. Please see the FAQ and the hardware specs page for details on the new design. Among other things, the new design has allowed us to implement cross fading and some very impressive visualizers. Of course, having it all done in software (on an extremely fast processor) leaves the door open for more functionality down the road. Now some people have pooh-poohed the idea of visualizers as just being eye candy, but personally I think a high resolution, ultra-fast spectrum analyzer is quite a thing to behold. We've got one now - full screen, 64 bands, 30 frames per second, and perfectly synced with the audio. There are a few visualizers to choose from, including a smaller spectrum analyzer and analog VU meters. Squeezebox2 also has a new vacuum fluorescent display - we had it custom designed by Noritake specifically to support the ideas we had in mind for new fonts, animations, and visualizers. The display is slightly larger physically, and has more than twice the resolution at 320x32 pixels. It has multiple brightness levels of course, but it also has grayscale capability, which we use for the visualizers and graphics. A few bonus features that you might not have expected: Dual antennas: Squeezebox2 has both an internal AND an external antenna. The 802.11g radio takes advantage of this configuration to automatically select the best antenna for transmit/receive, optimizing signal strength and vastly improving range/throughput. Bridging: yes, Squeezebox2 can share its wireless connection with a wired ethernet device connected through its (100Mbps) ethernet port. This allows other devices in the home theatre, such as Xboxen, Playstations, Tivos, or HTPCs to connect wirelessly to your access point. Pony: there is a discount code, FREEPONY. Enter this on the order page to get $20 off on either the wired or the wireless model. Finally, a big thank you goes to every one of our customers and especially the people on this list. Thank you for promoting the product, helping us improve it, and suggesting ideas. The new web site is up now: http://www.slimdevices.com Sean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 for Canadians
I would scoop one of these up in a second is slim devices didn't use UPS to send to Canada. The fees UPS charges to us for crossing the border are insane. FedEX, DHL, or ANYONE else I've dealt with gives us a much better deal, so I would strongly suggest a switch for Canadian customers. Otherwise, I guess I'll have to wait and see if http://www.kawarthatv.com will be getting them in any time soon. (just a suggestion to help with sales) Danny Rego ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 21:30 -0800, Sean Adams wrote: Hi everyone, Lots of folks noticed that we were running low on inventory, spending less time here, and working our butts off on SlimServer 6. As suspected, there is a new product. Squeezebox2 is in full production now, and the first units will ship on March 31. Squeezebox2 addresses all of the top performance and functionality requests that come up here every day. 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput FLAC: for reduced bandwidth usage More memory: for better streaming of PCM audio over wireless I'm just getting started... don't worry, I'll get to the pony. :) Can we get some inside shots of the hardware? Am wondering if this new version contains hooks allowing a hw modder to add front panel buttons if put in a different case? -- Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Squeezebox2 addresses all of the top performance and functionality requests that come up here every day. 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput FLAC: for reduced bandwidth usage More memory: for better streaming of PCM audio over wireless [...] Nicely done indeed. I have ordered a unit (the SLIMP3s will be very jealous), and look forward in particular to the native FLAC support (see bug 230, but also see 775). Congratulations! inw -- Ian Whalley first name @ last name . org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Squeezebox2
Sean, Nice job. I have ordered TWO. Looking forward to how Japanese would work / look with 6.0, and in the future, on SB2 display. Ken PS: will somone point me to the right 802.11g wireless router? I have to get one first. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent
Can anyone get it this way, I am trying (so as to limit load on the seriously overworked server at the moment) but looks like slims tracker is faulty. Giving Connection Error (IOException; server returned http code 500 for url http:tracker.slimdevices.com/6969... ANyone elso having probs? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
It all looks great! Particularly native FLAC. I guess we can close my enhancement bug soon. Sean Adams wrote: 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput Quick question: Would 802.11a be available as an option by installing the a/b/g version of whatever wireless card you are using? I would really like to go with a to get out of the 2.4GHz band. -- Daryle A. Tilroe ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
ron thigpen wrote: The SB1 is still a fantastic unit and completely functional for those using lossy formats. As such, it should continue to fetch a good price. I suppose we'll see what the market has to say about this in the coming few weeks. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens to the SB1 in the secondary market now. If the SB1 price drops low enough, I may just pick up another (or even a couple). - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent
The tracker is up now, but not received any data yet :( IS anyone seeding this file? - Original Message - From: Tim Morley To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:05 PM Subject: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent Can anyone get it this way, I am trying (so as to limit load on the seriously overworked server at the moment) but looks like slims tracker is faulty. Giving Connection Error (IOException; server returned http code 500 for url http:tracker.slimdevices.com/6969... ANyone elso having probs? ___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Squeezebox2
I have one for ya, email me. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Sherman Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 8:31 AM To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] Squeezebox2 ron thigpen wrote: The SB1 is still a fantastic unit and completely functional for those using lossy formats. As such, it should continue to fetch a good price. I suppose we'll see what the market has to say about this in the coming few weeks. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens to the SB1 in the secondary market now. If the SB1 price drops low enough, I may just pick up another (or even a couple). - Marc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: slimserver 6 as bittorrent
* Tim Morley shaped the electrons to say... The tracker is up now, but not received any data yet :( IS anyone seeding this file? I just kicked the tracker here - it decided to eat itself. -D -- iNoah all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent
Sorry ignore that, coming in at 120k. ANd finished, ill leave this on for a week or 2 ;) - Original Message - From: Tim Morley To: Slim Devices Discussion Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent The tracker is up now, but not received any data yet :( IS anyone seeding this file? - Original Message - From: Tim Morley To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:05 PM Subject: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent Can anyone get it this way, I am trying (so as to limit load on the seriously overworked server at the moment) but looks like slims tracker is faulty. Giving Connection Error (IOException; server returned http code 500 for url http:tracker.slimdevices.com/6969... ANyone elso having probs? ___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: slimserver 6 as bittorrent
LOL, nice one ;) This is the way to go for downloading files. May be worth pushing this to save your bandwidth? Tim UK - Original Message - From: Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:37 PM Subject: [slim] Re: slimserver 6 as bittorrent * Tim Morley shaped the electrons to say... The tracker is up now, but not received any data yet :( IS anyone seeding this file? I just kicked the tracker here - it decided to eat itself. -D -- iNoah all your base class are belong to us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] slimserver 6 as bittorrent
The tracker is up now, but not received any data yet :( Worked fine for me. I'll be seeding the Windows, Mac and .tar.gz versions for a while. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Show some initiative ;-) http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/g2/index.htm On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 02:53:53 -0800, d-mode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only thing I see missing from my 'wishlist' is a formfactor change - to a 'regular' audio equipment size. Andrew - Original Message - From: Sean Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com; Slim Devices Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: [slim] Squeezebox2 Hi everyone, Lots of folks noticed that we were running low on inventory, spending less time here, and working our butts off on SlimServer 6. As suspected, there is a new product. Squeezebox2 is in full production now, and the first units will ship on March 31. Squeezebox2 addresses all of the top performance and functionality requests that come up here every day. 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput FLAC: for reduced bandwidth usage More memory: for better streaming of PCM audio over wireless ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: slimserver 6 as bittorrent
The tracker I was using just biffed again. Looking at other alternatives - stay tuned. -D -- Ya gotta love UNIX, where else do you wonder whether you can kill a zombie spawned by a daemon's fork? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Hi Krist, On Mar 9, 2005, at 5:18 AM, /rist wrote: Squeezebox2 has completely done away with all the limitations - we're now doing all of the audio decoding and DSP work in software, and this gave me the freedom to design the digital outputs and analog stages exactly the way I wanted them. Please see the FAQ and the hardware specs page for details on the new design. If all audio decoding is now done in software, is there any chance the Squeezebox2 will ever decode ogg natively? I have most of my music in ogg format, and the way they are played now (with decoding-recoding on the server side) is not really optimal. It's possible that native Ogg decoding will be added later, depending on demand. That said, the new FLAC transcoding, while not optimal, is an efficient and low overhead solution for Ogg playback. -dean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
On Mar 9, 2005, at 7:05 AM, Ken Hokugo wrote: PS: will somone point me to the right 802.11g wireless router? I have to get one first. I've been really happy with my Belkin Pre-N router, the improvement in range using the MIMO technology is impressive. I was able to take down three access points scattered around the house and replace it with one Belkin in the basement for significantly improved range/performance. Not cheap ($129USD) but highly recommended. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Absolutely! And with the bigger buffer and FLAC, lossless performance is significantly better than with the original Squeezebox even on a B network. -dean On Mar 9, 2005, at 7:52 AM, Phillip Kerman wrote: You can still use the SB2 on a regular old wireless B network--right? Thanks, Phillip ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/05 10:46 AM Show some initiative ;-) http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/g2/index.htm Jason, Any thoughts on doing another mod like this? I've got an old (almost 2 years old!) CD player that I have completely gutted and would love to put the innards of a SB2 in, but the stumbling block has always been the front. Do you know of any places that will custom make a front panel similar to the one you've made (except in black)? Do you have any of the extras left over from your small production run? Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
I have seen this too somewhere, but I can easily hear the difference between 16/44.1 and 24/96 in my own setup so I'll stick to that. The difference I hear suggest that the test was done with eyes and ears blinded :) Michael Peters wrote: On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 08:19:14 +0100, Olav Sunde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is very good news indeed! I'll order another SB immediately. Is streaming of 24bit PCM possible in the SB2? I have a collection of FLAC files in 24/96 from my favorite vinyl albums that I cannot play on my current SB... I don't recall where - but I remember seeing a blind study that determined anything above 12bit PCM on vinyl to digital recording, even with audiophile grade stylus and preamp and A/D converter, was undistinguishable - the audio from vinyl just did not have the resolution for it to make a difference. The recomondation was to rip vinyl to standard 16/44.1 for that reason. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 and radioio
Will SB2 give free access to radioio like SB1? If not, does this mean that owners of SB1 will lose this privilege? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web site formatting messed up?
Ah, much better... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/05 11:06 AM Whoa, thanks Paul. Should be fixed now. On Mar 9, 2005, at 7:53 AM, PAUL WILLIAMSON wrote: So with this new announcement, has anyone noticed that the website is crooked ? For me (IE 5.5), the top of the site is on the left, while the middle, where the ripping and slimserver 6 announcement are is way over to the right? Then for a return engagement, the bottom is back over on the left. Looks like the table formatting got messed up somehow... Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and radioio
Maurice Poirier wrote: Will SB2 give free access to radioio like SB1? If not, does this mean that owners of SB1 will lose this privilege? Access to Internet radio via SlimServer is unchanged for SB1 and SB2. As long as there are free stations available, you will be able to freely access them through your Squeezebox. The always-on functionality, available through the SqueezeNetwork, allows you to use a SB2 (including listening to radio) without having a local machine running SlimServer. For now, this is a SB2 only feature. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] SB2 and radioio
For now? Oh how you tease! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vidur Apparao Sent: 09 March 2005 16:16 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: Re: [slim] SB2 and radioio Maurice Poirier wrote: Will SB2 give free access to radioio like SB1? If not, does this mean that owners of SB1 will lose this privilege? Access to Internet radio via SlimServer is unchanged for SB1 and SB2. As long as there are free stations available, you will be able to freely access them through your Squeezebox. The always-on functionality, available through the SqueezeNetwork, allows you to use a SB2 (including listening to radio) without having a local machine running SlimServer. For now, this is a SB2 only feature. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: slimserver 6 as bittorrent
* Dan Sully shaped the electrons to say... The tracker I was using just biffed again. Looking at other alternatives - stay tuned. Ok - the tracker is back up. -D -- ( ( ( [ ] ) ) ) In Stereo Where Available ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] (a bit OT) firewall in the router (was Squeezebox2)
Ken Hokugo wrote: Dean or anyone, Would the firewall feature in these routers (wireless or wired) be good enough so that I can get rid of Zonealarm Pro which contributes 10 to 15% more of CPU usage when playing Slimserver? If I could get rid of the sw based firewall, that would be great. the short answer is that there is good reason to use both the features of your router firewall at the network edge, _and_ software protection on the machines inside your LAN. the reason is that each can protect from different threats. the edge firewall will close off ports, can drop packets for some well known attacks (SYN, et.al.) and just generally keep net-scanners at bay. the s/w firewall can do some or all of the above, but also protect you from downloaded components that may be trying to send data. zone alarm pro is particularly good at this. it can also help keep a virus from spreading inside your LAN. as far as the CPU issue with ZAP, have you tried making configuration changes that might keep it from inspecting the SS/SB packets so aggressively? i don't have any specific recommendations off the top of my head, but i do know that ZAP has some very granular settings for trust that can be based on program, IP, port, protocol, etc. i'd guess you could get it to stand down somewhat w/r/t this traffic. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
I'd been holding out for a public domain linux apple lossless decompression solution that would run compfortably on a squeezebox, but this might push me to dual libraries (one flac, one aac for ipod)... There is a preliminary FOSS decoder for ALE out: http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html You could have SlimServer transcode ALE -- FLAC without loss of quality. That said, I'd much rather people didn't use closed formats. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re:Squeezebox2
http://www.schaeffer-apparatebau.de/index.php?option=com_frontpageItemid=205 Show some initiative ;-) http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/g2/index.htm the front. Do you know of any places that will custom make a front panel similar to the one you've made Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and radioio
Will the always on radio feature work with computers with integrated wireless router built into the motherboard (eg A8V-E Deluxe with ASUS AI Proactive features -Wifi-g on board AI NET2 )? - Original Message - From: Vidur Apparao [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [slim] SB2 and radioio Vidur Apparao wrote: Maurice Poirier wrote: Will SB2 give free access to radioio like SB1? If not, does this mean that owners of SB1 will lose this privilege? Access to Internet radio via SlimServer is unchanged for SB1 and SB2. As long as there are free stations available, you will be able to freely access them through your Squeezebox. The always-on functionality, available through the SqueezeNetwork, allows you to use a SB2 (including listening to radio) without having a local machine running SlimServer. For now, this is a SB2 only feature. I didn't notice that the original question was about radioIO. Yes, radioIO access continues to be free for both boxes. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 08/03/2005 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] French radio stations
If you want to good time, I recommend you listen to CJMS in Canada...French country musichttp://www.cjms.ca/;-) Patrick --- Patrick Cosson V-P, Sales Marketing Slim Devices, Inc. 415-359-7407 cell 413-638-5248 efax Best of Show - Macworld 2004 KickAss Product - Maximum PC March 2004 Best for Lounges 5 stars out of 5 - Stuff Magazine UK March 2004 Editors Choice Consumer Hardware nominee - Macworld UK April 2004 On 3/8/05 11:54 PM, Florent DANIEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BenRubinstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There's been some mention on the list of French radio stations. Can anyone point me at how I can get some of these? Stations from the Radio France group (public network) are broadcasting in Ogg format (but I haven't tried it, since FM is more reliable when you're in France ;-). You can find a list of URLs here : http://www.radiofrance.fr/services/aide/difflive.php#ogg France Inter : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderfinter.ogg France Info : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderfinfo.ogg France Culture : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderfculture.ogg France Musiques : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderfmusiques.ogg FIP : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderfip.ogg Le Mouv' : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderlemouv.ogg Hector : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encoderhector.ogg La CityRadio de Paris : http://ogg.tv-radio.fr:1441/encodercityradio.ogg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re:Squeezebox2
Show some initiative ;-) http://www.geekmods.com/slimp3/g2/index.htm the front. Do you know of any places that will custom make a front panel similar to the one you've made [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/05 12:40 PM http://www.schaeffer-apparatebau.de/index.php?option=com_frontpageItemid=205 Wow! How cool is that? Has anyone else on the list used this service before? If so, are there any fpd files to share? I made up a test front panel and submitted it for order, and the price was fairly reasonable (to me) at only $27.50. I'll need to go out and buy and old CD player at a yard sale this weekend, gut it and start the measuring! Thanks Bart. Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Lossless decoding in the box or on the server for Squeezebox2??
Chris Glushko wrote: I was just reading the FAQ on the Squeezebox2 and it states: Squeezebox2 supports MPEG 1/2, layers 2/3, for both VBR and fixed data rates up to 320Kbps (the maximum for MP3). Additionally, Squeezebox2 can play FLAC and Apple lossless encoded audio as well as AIFF and WAV uncompressed audio. This means that the original data from the CD is being played digitally, without any compression or loss of sound quality. The SlimServer software can automatically convert many formats on the fly for playback, including WMA, AAC and Ogg Vorbis. Does this mean the new slimserver streams the actual compressed apple lossless files to the squeezebox2 instead of decoding to WAV on the fly and then streaming??? No, the box does not support native Apple Lossless decoding. However, you will be able to automatically transcode the signal to FLAC on your computer, leaving the original signal untouched, but still getting the bandwidth advantages of lossless compression. --Vidur ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.0b1 iTunes problems
My song count is totally off with 6.0b1: Your music library contains 1084 albums with 5061 songs by 1141 artists. With 5.4: Your music library contains 1694 albums with 27221 songs by 2451 artists. It's about 22,000 short! Not all genres are found (IE: Zydeco is not on the list when browsing by genre) and none of my iTunes playlists are found. I have it setup exactly like 5.4 have tried wiping / clearing cache no change. I even blasted the config file rebuilt it from scratch, still no change. The server is running on Debian Linux box with samba shared raid mounted on my G5 running OS X. iTunes library is symlinked off the G5 to the mounted raid drive. Server settings like so: x-tad-smallerMusic Folder /x-tad-smaller(Blank since I'm using iTunes) x-tad-smaller Playlists Folder /x-tad-smaller/home/playlists x-tad-smalleriTunes Music Library.xml Location/x-tad-smaller /raid0/mp3/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml x-tad-smalleriTunes Music Folder /x-tad-smaller/raid0/mp3/ This is the exact same setup that works with 5.4. The only playlists that are found with 6.0b1 are the ones made with slimserver stored in /home/playlists on the server. None of the iTunes ones are found. Suggestions? -Healy___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
Multitask Computing at www.multitask-computing.co.uk are taking advance orders with a provisional shipping date of 31st March. I've just ordered another, the service was pretty good when I ordered the last one. Richard On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 06:45:09 -, Richard Scales [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good work sir! Please can you advise as to when you expect your UK distributors to have stock? (and perhaps which ones might have them first?) Richard Scales -Original Message- From: Sean Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 March 2005 05:30 To: Slim Devices Discussion; Slim Devices Developers Subject: [slim] Squeezebox2 Hi everyone, Lots of folks noticed that we were running low on inventory, spending less time here, and working our butts off on SlimServer 6. As suspected, there is a new product. Squeezebox2 is in full production now, and the first units will ship on March 31. Squeezebox2 addresses all of the top performance and functionality requests that come up here every day. 802.11g/WPA: for better range, compatibility, security, and throughput FLAC: for reduced bandwidth usage More memory: for better streaming of PCM audio over wireless I'm just getting started... don't worry, I'll get to the pony. :) Although I don't often contribute to the audiophile discussions, I really do enjoy reading them. Regardless of who can hear what, the fact is that there are indeed some real measurable characteristics such as output levels, THD+N, and clock precision where we had room for significant improvement. Squeezebox2 has completely done away with all the limitations - we're now doing all of the audio decoding and DSP work in software, and this gave me the freedom to design the digital outputs and analog stages exactly the way I wanted them. Please see the FAQ and the hardware specs page for details on the new design. Among other things, the new design has allowed us to implement cross fading and some very impressive visualizers. Of course, having it all done in software (on an extremely fast processor) leaves the door open for more functionality down the road. Now some people have pooh-poohed the idea of visualizers as just being eye candy, but personally I think a high resolution, ultra-fast spectrum analyzer is quite a thing to behold. We've got one now - full screen, 64 bands, 30 frames per second, and perfectly synced with the audio. There are a few visualizers to choose from, including a smaller spectrum analyzer and analog VU meters. Squeezebox2 also has a new vacuum fluorescent display - we had it custom designed by Noritake specifically to support the ideas we had in mind for new fonts, animations, and visualizers. The display is slightly larger physically, and has more than twice the resolution at 320x32 pixels. It has multiple brightness levels of course, but it also has grayscale capability, which we use for the visualizers and graphics. A few bonus features that you might not have expected: Dual antennas: Squeezebox2 has both an internal AND an external antenna. The 802.11g radio takes advantage of this configuration to automatically select the best antenna for transmit/receive, optimizing signal strength and vastly improving range/throughput. Bridging: yes, Squeezebox2 can share its wireless connection with a wired ethernet device connected through its (100Mbps) ethernet port. This allows other devices in the home theatre, such as Xboxen, Playstations, Tivos, or HTPCs to connect wirelessly to your access point. Pony: there is a discount code, FREEPONY. Enter this on the order page to get $20 off on either the wired or the wireless model. Finally, a big thank you goes to every one of our customers and especially the people on this list. Thank you for promoting the product, helping us improve it, and suggesting ideas. The new web site is up now: http://www.slimdevices.com Sean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Sqzbx2. Awesome. 2 antennas?
The specs on SqueezeBox2 are great. Mine is on order. One question: Why 2 antennas? Maybe 802.11a? (I guess that 2 questions). from: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_specs.html # internal antenna: planar inverted-F antenna # External antenna: Detachable, 2 dBi omnidirectional /4 dipole array, SMA reverse-polarity ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox2
--- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have waited a few days, I guess. The Squeezebox I ordered yesterday was delivered today and is sitting on the table waiting to be opened. ;) You have a 30 day money back gaurantee. Send it back and order a SB2. __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sqzbx2. Awesome. 2 antennas?
Right. The wireless card should be able to choose which antenna to use for either transmit or receive to get the best signal. On Mar 9, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Jason wrote: It just provides more coverage capability with two antennas. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edgar Lombera Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:09 AM To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Sqzbx2. Awesome. 2 antennas? The specs on SqueezeBox2 are great. Mine is on order. One question: Why 2 antennas? Maybe 802.11a? (I guess that 2 questions). from: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_specs.html # internal antenna: planar inverted-F antenna # External antenna: Detachable, 2 dBi omnidirectional ?/4 dipole array, SMA reverse-polarity ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Lossless decoding in the box or on the server for Squeezebox2??
Would it be possible in the not to distant future to implement native ALAC decoding in the SB2 such as using the reverse engineered decoder at http://craz.net/programs/itunes/alac.html Yes - not making promises, just saying it's doable. ALAC is pretty much the same as FLAC. I'm no lawyer, but does doing this pose legal problems? I'm not either, but I know who to ask. :) My gut feel is we'd probably be okay as long as we didn't unwrap any of their DRM. Keep in mind now that we have FLAC, the benefits of moving codecs from the server to the device have diminished somewhat. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balancing
This might be lost in the SB 2 anouncment but, their is much discussion on balancing, volume control, balance, not affecting the audio quality. I understood that all this was done in software / dsp hardware on SB and SB 2, If so, talk about by passing being wanted for audio quality, is that not bogus ? Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Lossless decoding in the box or on the server for Squeezebox2??
Keep in mind now that we have FLAC, the benefits of moving codecs from the server to the device have diminished somewhat. modulo underpowered servers. FLAC encoding is quite strenuous, as you know, and with multiple Squeezebox2en I imagine that one could run into problems quite quickly de-ALAC-ing and re-FLAC-ing on the server for several tracks at once. (Wouldn't it be cool if SlimServer could, in addition to transcoding on the fly, write a cached version of the transcoded track back into the collection, or next to the collection, or somewhere -- such that next time it needed to transcode track X from ALAC to FLAC, it could use the cached copy of the already transcoded track.) Best; inw -- Ian Whalley first name @ last name . org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Apple Lossless decoding in the box or on the server for Squeezebox2??
On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Ian Whalley wrote: Keep in mind now that we have FLAC, the benefits of moving codecs from the server to the device have diminished somewhat. modulo underpowered servers. FLAC encoding is quite strenuous, as you know, Actually it's not. FLAC encodes at several * real-time even on a fairly old machine, and that's with default settings. For transcoding we will probably default to a slightly lower compression level, which is VERY fast. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 Cannot connect
Anyone have a suggestion about this? It would be nice if I could get the slimserver software running. Thanks, On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 11:10:35PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: I downloaded 5.4.0 from the slimdevices.com and it installed and ran without any problem from where I unpacked it. Here's how I started it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/SlimServer_v5.4.0$ cat start.sh #!/bin/sh CWD=$(pwd) ./slimserver.pl --daemon \ --audiodir $HOME/music \ --cachedir $CWD/cache \ --logfile $CWD/server.log \ --prefsfile $CWD/server.prefs \ --pidfile $CWD/server.pid \ $@ Within minutes, slimdevices.com had been updated with slimserver6.0b1 (SlimServer_v2005-03-08) So I then download that and used the same startup script. Everything seems ok, except when I select play in the web interface xmms just says PRE-BUFFERING: 0KB/32KB and never plays. Is there something I'm missing in how to start the server? Should I be posting this on the devel list? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 and radio streams
If I have an URL of an MP3 radio stream (let's say a Norwegian radio station) will it play back directly on SB2 without the need for slimserver? I.e. act as a standalone internet radio receiver? Steinar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 Cannot connect
Quoting Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have a suggestion about this? It would be nice if I could get the slimserver software running. try log output for: --d_http --d_source are you able to get playback using softsqueeze? -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 and FLAC
I have started to rip my record collection to FLAC. I am using one FLAC file per album, internal cuesheets with tag information included as numbered Vorbis Comments. This works great with SB1 and server-side decoding. Will FLACs with embedded cuesheets and tagged using numbered VC work with the client-side decoding on SB2? More generally, will the native FLAC functionality of SB2 support all types of FLAC functionality currently supported by server-side decoding? Steinar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 Cannot connect
On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 11:28:56AM -0800, kdf wrote: Quoting Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone have a suggestion about this? It would be nice if I could get the slimserver software running. try log output for: --d_http --d_source Once I hit play and then xmms says pre-buffering I see this repeated over and over: .3 is this laptop. 2005-03-09 11:39:03.0827 Nothing to stream, let's wait for 0.05 seconds... 2005-03-09 11:39:03.0836 Got nothing for streaming data to 192.168.1.3 2005-03-09 11:39:03.1349 sendstreaming response begun... 2005-03-09 11:39:03.1359 We need to send 0 seconds of silence... 2005-03-09 11:39:03.1366 sending 0 bytes of silence 2005-03-09 11:39:03.1369 192.168.1.3: No filehandle to read from, returning no chunk. Same thing with mpg321. are you able to get playback using softsqueeze? Don't have it installed (don't have java on this laptop). But xmms and mpg321 have worked without any problems before on other versions. Thanks for helping! -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 and PCM formats
What PCM formats are the DAC in the SB2 capable of delivering to the analog output? All the way up to 96kHz/24bits? What PCM formats are SB2 capable of passing through to the S/PDIF digital out? I am interested in knowing both the current status and the possibilities with future software upgrades. Steinar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0b
Is this just me then? I've also tried clicking play by a genre on the web interface (shuffle is off). Again I get all tracks in the genre played in alphabetical order. This definitely wasn't the case under 5.4. - Original Message - From: Ben Cook To: Slim Devices Discussion Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:01 PM Subject: [slim] 6.0b Firstly, the new Squeezebox2 looks to be a great bit of kit. Oops, I appear to have ordered one. Secondly, I've just installed 6.0b1. With shuffle turned off I browse Artists, then click the play button next to an artist, I get all tracks from that artist being played in alphabetical order rather than track order. I'm using the standard skin. Anyone else seeing this behaviour? Other info: SBG wireless, WinXP, P266, 128MB RAM ___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 08/03/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 08/03/2005 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0b
Ben Cook wrote: Is this just me then? I've also tried clicking play by a genre on the web interface (shuffle is off). Again I get all tracks in the genre played in alphabetical order. This definitely wasn't the case under 5.4. - Original Message - *From:* Ben Cook mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Secondly, I've just installed 6.0b1. With shuffle turned off I browse Artists, then click the play button next to an artist, I get all tracks from that artist being played in /alphabetical/ /order /rather than track order. I'm using the standard skin. Anyone else seeing this behaviour? It's not just you - I get the same behavior with 6.0b1. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.0b
* Ben Cook shaped the electrons to say... Secondly, I've just installed 6.0b1. With shuffle turned off I browse Artists, then click the play button next to an artist, I get all tracks from that artist being played in alphabetical order rather than track order. I'm using the standard skin. Ben - does this look similar to what you're seeing? http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973 -D -- ZangTT berkeley db - it's mostly about the hash() ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] UK shipping...
From looking at the images on the site, I think it's actually greenscale, using a more advanced version (but the same basic physics) of display as in current squeezeboxen. Chris Nic Wardle wrote: Hi Let me be yet another person to congratulate SlimDevices on an excellent looking device!! Its soo tempting!! Can i just ask what would be the real world price (roughly!) if the unit was bought from the USA with the addition of the import duty etc (using a rough currency conversion of 1.9 dollars to the pound)? I have done rough maths and think it would be around £160. Is this way off the mark? Pre-orders are being taken on one of the UK sites for £199... PS Is the grey scale display as easy to read at distance as the green one? Thanks Nic (Can I get a Shetland Pony with my UK order?! :) ) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 Cannot connect
Quoting Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 09, 2005 at 12:07:50PM -0800, kdf wrote: looks like something is hanging in the playback. can you find where the log shows the song starting playback? This would be where it tried to construct the playback command, searching for format options, etc. output from d_source. I think I understand -- slimpserver 6 thinks it's connecting to squeezebox2 which can play wav/flac, etc directly. I had .ogg queued up and that gets mapped to wav with 6.0. .ogg played fine with xmms with 5.4.0. With 6.0b1 I'm only able to play .mp3. Makes sense. Guess I need to figure out how to setup convert.conf to set encoding based on the player. Hum, maybe that's not the right place. How does the server determine what the client is (xmms, sb1, sb2) and what conversion to use? any player that connects to http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3 should be getting detected as player type 'http', which is given a 320kbps bitrate limit and 'mp3' format only support. clearly, this detection is broken. otherwise, the server uses the reponse from a slimproto query. Odd, still, that yoru player could stil be detected as sb2 if clearly xmms can't possible have responded with a deviceid. -kdf -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and PCM formats
DISCLAIMER: please be very clear that these are not promises that we're going do any particular feature at any particular time, or even at all. I will comment *to the best of my knowledge* on what the hardware could potentially be made to do, but please don't hold me to it if we find some reason later why some particular thing can't or won't be done. Right now Squeezebox2 does 24 bits (s/pdif and DAC) at 44.1 and 48KHz. A block diagram is in order: | ip3023 cpu | | | | |- 11.2896 mhz |xc9536xl CPLD | ---| |- 12.2880 mhz | | | | | || --- | ||_| S/PDIF outputs | | | --- |--- || DAC | |--- | | __ | +| AMP|--| RCA Outputs | | | -- | | |--- -- +| CMOS || AMP |--| Headphone/ | || SWITCH |- | geekport | |---- || || The really important thing to note here is that there are NONE of the usual hard-wired digital audio components that you'd expect to see. S/PDIF outputs are usually done using a chip like the CS8405. Also, often times there will be some audio codec chip in the path, which handles gain, mixing, resampling and stuff like that. We are doing ALL of this stuff in software, which gives us tremendous flexibility to tweak, tune, and improve it. The other important point is that the digital logic which handles the s/pdif outputs and the feeding of data to the DAC is all done in a Xilinx gate array. If you're not familiar with CPLDs or FPGAs, basically the idea is that instead of hard-wiring a bunch of individual logic chips together or making a custom integrated circuit, these programmable gate arrays allow you to create your own custom chip by writing code. The _really_ killer thing about them is that you can reprogram them later, which in terms of standard logic chips, is the equivalent of making a whole new circuit board in software. In squeezebox2 this Xilinx chip is configured by the CPU, so we have the ability to completely rewire the digital output path just about any way we want, at any time. Hence there are some extremely interesting possibilities for future features Finally, notice the geekport. Squeezebox1 had a geekport too, but it was not really accessible because you had to open the case and solder stuff onto the board. In Squeezebox2, the geekport is the headphone jack! The headphone jack can be reconfigured for other modes, including bidirectional data and IR blasting. These features are not done yet but the hardware support is there. Everything below this line is a ** POSSIBLE MAYBE SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD **. - The hardware has SEPARATE DATA PATHS for s/pdif and DAC outputs. We are not using this capability now (both are fed the same data), but it could be used perhaps for some interesting multi-channel applications. For example, we could output the encoded digital stream to a surround receiver, and also output a 2-channel stereo rendition to the DAC. - Crsytals can easily be desoldered. The logic is driven directly by these two oscillators, so if you want to experiment with unusual frequencies or wire up an aftermarket clock source, you can. - 96Khz should be doable with the xtals we have, maybe 192. - All the s/pdif data is under our control. We can pretend to be AES/EBU, lie about what kind of device we are (DAT player etc), shut off the s/pdif in order to tell an amp or receiver that we're not active, etc etc. - There are some vendor-specific/proprietary tricks that some guys are doing with s/pdif. In particular, I believe somebody has a receiver + s/pdif speaker setup that sends volume commands over the s/pdif. We could support things like this - probably they would be trivial to reverse-engineer, but we'd prefer to get cooperation. - The geekport can potentially do some pretty crazy things - high speed RS232 for example, auxiliary s/pdif output, house sync (word clock) input, maybe even s/pdif INPUT, i2c, dallas 1-wire - damn near anything you can do on two wires + ground. The only geekport feature we're aiming to finish by ship date is IR blasting. This will allow Squeezebox2 to power on your receiver and set it to the right input, and later power it off automatically when you're done listening. The IR blaster has a variable current driver so it can be set up to drive a single LED dimly up to multiple LEDs brightly. It could also deliver enough current to drive a small external voltage regular eg for a microcontroller
Re: [slim] SB2 and PCM formats
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 13:10 -0800, Sean Adams wrote: The only geekport feature we're aiming to finish by ship date is IR blasting. Does the IR support in the sb2 cover RC-5 remotes through xpl? -- Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and PCM formats
Sean, I guess the only thing I have to say is..wow. And I thought the last version was geek driven ;-) Mike - Original Message - From: Sean Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Slim Devices Discussion discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [slim] SB2 and PCM formats DISCLAIMER: please be very clear that these are not promises that we're going do any particular feature at any particular time, or even at all. I will comment *to the best of my knowledge* on what the hardware could potentially be made to do, but please don't hold me to it if we find some reason later why some particular thing can't or won't be done. Right now Squeezebox2 does 24 bits (s/pdif and DAC) at 44.1 and 48KHz. A block diagram is in order: | ip3023 cpu | | | | |- 11.2896 mhz |xc9536xl CPLD | ---| |- 12.2880 mhz | | | | | || --- | ||_| S/PDIF outputs | | | --- |--- || DAC | |--- | | __ | +| AMP|--| RCA Outputs | | | -- | | |--- -- +| CMOS || AMP |--| Headphone/ | || SWITCH |- | geekport | |---- || || The really important thing to note here is that there are NONE of the usual hard-wired digital audio components that you'd expect to see. S/PDIF outputs are usually done using a chip like the CS8405. Also, often times there will be some audio codec chip in the path, which handles gain, mixing, resampling and stuff like that. We are doing ALL of this stuff in software, which gives us tremendous flexibility to tweak, tune, and improve it. The other important point is that the digital logic which handles the s/pdif outputs and the feeding of data to the DAC is all done in a Xilinx gate array. If you're not familiar with CPLDs or FPGAs, basically the idea is that instead of hard-wiring a bunch of individual logic chips together or making a custom integrated circuit, these programmable gate arrays allow you to create your own custom chip by writing code. The _really_ killer thing about them is that you can reprogram them later, which in terms of standard logic chips, is the equivalent of making a whole new circuit board in software. In squeezebox2 this Xilinx chip is configured by the CPU, so we have the ability to completely rewire the digital output path just about any way we want, at any time. Hence there are some extremely interesting possibilities for future features Finally, notice the geekport. Squeezebox1 had a geekport too, but it was not really accessible because you had to open the case and solder stuff onto the board. In Squeezebox2, the geekport is the headphone jack! The headphone jack can be reconfigured for other modes, including bidirectional data and IR blasting. These features are not done yet but the hardware support is there. Everything below this line is a ** POSSIBLE MAYBE SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD **. - The hardware has SEPARATE DATA PATHS for s/pdif and DAC outputs. We are not using this capability now (both are fed the same data), but it could be used perhaps for some interesting multi-channel applications. For example, we could output the encoded digital stream to a surround receiver, and also output a 2-channel stereo rendition to the DAC. - Crsytals can easily be desoldered. The logic is driven directly by these two oscillators, so if you want to experiment with unusual frequencies or wire up an aftermarket clock source, you can. - 96Khz should be doable with the xtals we have, maybe 192. - All the s/pdif data is under our control. We can pretend to be AES/EBU, lie about what kind of device we are (DAT player etc), shut off the s/pdif in order to tell an amp or receiver that we're not active, etc etc. - There are some vendor-specific/proprietary tricks that some guys are doing with s/pdif. In particular, I believe somebody has a receiver + s/pdif speaker setup that sends volume commands over the s/pdif. We could support things like this - probably they would be trivial to reverse-engineer, but we'd prefer to get cooperation. - The geekport can potentially do some pretty crazy things - high speed RS232 for example, auxiliary s/pdif output, house sync (word clock) input, maybe even s/pdif INPUT, i2c, dallas 1-wire - damn near anything you can do on two wires + ground. The only geekport feature we're aiming to finish by ship date is IR blasting. This
Re: [slim] 320x32 VFD (was: UK shipping...)
Right, it's greenscale. :) - The color and brightness are the same as the 280x16 display. - Pixels can be on, off, or one of two grey levels (ie it's 2 bits per pixel). - The grey levels can be set arbitrarily - The pixels are roughly twice as dense - Total pixels 320x32 - Raw display refresh rate is a little over 100 fps. Visualizers run at 30 fps. - Viewable area is slightly larger - Pixels are square instead of slightly tall. This makes fonts and graphics easier to design. On Mar 9, 2005, at 1:04 PM, Chris O'Shannassy wrote: From looking at the images on the site, I think it's actually greenscale, using a more advanced version (but the same basic physics) of display as in current squeezeboxen. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 Cannot connect
kdf wrote: any player that connects to http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3 should be getting detected as player type 'http', which is given a 320kbps bitrate limit and 'mp3' format only support. clearly, this detection is broken. otherwise, the server uses the reponse from a slimproto query. Odd, still, that yoru player could stil be detected as sb2 if clearly xmms can't possible have responded with a deviceid. Bill, have you connected using Softsqueeze from the same PC? This will break the player detection and make the slimserver think an http player is a squeezebox2. If you restart the slimserver then it will be ok again. kdf, we did discuss this a few months back, but never worked out a suitable fix. Richard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 and PCM formats
Certainly there will be a slimserver hook if that's what you're asking - I haven't fiddled with xpl yet; i'm just working on the firmware right now. In terms of format support I am making it very generic. The server will specify the low-level timing and the SB2 will just blast it out. On Mar 9, 2005, at 1:14 PM, Torgeir Veimo wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 13:10 -0800, Sean Adams wrote: The only geekport feature we're aiming to finish by ship date is IR blasting. Does the IR support in the sb2 cover RC-5 remotes through xpl? -- Torgeir Veimo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Best stand-alone setup for SlimServer
What are your thoughts on the best stand-alone server set up. I'm building a server that's sole purpose is to run SlimServer. I was thinking about ClarkConnect in stand-alone mode. That way I could manage it from a web interface if I wanted to. Any other suggestions? I'd also like to be able to connect an external USB or Firewire drive to it to add more music, but I guess I could just do it through Samba instead. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] uninitialized value in -e at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Utils/Prefs.pm
I've just downloaded SlimServer_v6.0b1.tar.gz (SlimServer_v2005-03-08) from the website, and have unpacked it on my gentoo box. I then created a slimserver user, who now owns the slimserver tree, and attempted to start the perl script (./slimserver.pl --daemon). Initially, there were error messages pointing to various perl modules which were missing/outdated (DBI,Compress:Zlib), which I was able to fix. Now I receive the following error: - $./slimserver.pl --audiodir /media/audio --daemon --stdio --logfile /tmp/slim.log Use of uninitialized value in -e at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Utils/Prefs.pm line 119. Use of uninitialized value in -d at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/File/Path.pm line 153. fileparse(): need a valid pathname at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.5/File/Path.pm line 154 Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Plugins.pm line 20. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Plugins.pm line 20. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 15. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Common.pm line 15. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Settings.pm line 11. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Buttons/Settings.pm line 11. Compilation failed in require at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Display/Display.pm line 14. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Display/Display.pm line 14. Compilation failed in require at ./slimserver.pl line 192. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./slimserver.pl line 192. --- at which point, I'm stuck. My knowledge of perl doesn't extend much beyond being able to install modules through cpan, and this doesn't look (to my untrained eyes, at least) to be a matter of a missing module. I've tried combing through the list archives, and more general search on google, but neither have turned up common problem or pointed to a solution. I do imagine that this is a case of my having missed something (possibly even something embarrassingly obvious ;), or my environment being otherwise not entirely what slimserver is expecting, but I'm quite stumped. I wondered if there was any documention that I was missing, which covered in more detail what slimserver needed to run (I.e., something beyond the Linux Install Guide), that I could use to begin troubleshooing this. Of course, if anyone happened to recognize the problem, a point in the right direction would also be greatly appreciated :) $perl -v This is perl, v5.8.5 built for i686-linux Steph -- BOFH Excuse #131: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimServer 6.0b1 and Shoutcast
I've been trying out SlimServer 6.0b1 and it seems to be working pretty well. Except, when I try to browse ShoutCast stations, it crashes. Here is the message I get: Undefined subroutine HTML::Entities::decode_entities called at /home/mark/bin/SlimServer_v2005-03-09/Plugins/ShoutcastBrowser.pm line 407. Yes that is with the 03-09-2005 nightly, but it happened also with beta 1 and I was hoping for different behavior with the nightly. I'm running this on Slackware 10.1. I loaded it up on my Debian workstation and used Softsqueeze to browse Shoutcast and had no trouble - that isn't my server, though. Since it worked okay on the Debian box, I'm sure it's due to something on the Slackware box, but I don't know what it could be. Anyone? Thanks! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.0b1 and Shoutcast
* Mark Murray shaped the electrons to say... I've been trying out SlimServer 6.0b1 and it seems to be working pretty well. Except, when I try to browse ShoutCast stations, it crashes. Here is the message I get: Undefined subroutine HTML::Entities::decode_entities called at /home/mark/bin/SlimServer_v2005-03-09/Plugins/ShoutcastBrowser.pm line 407. Yes that is with the 03-09-2005 nightly, but it happened also with beta 1 and I was hoping for different behavior with the nightly. I'm running this on Slackware 10.1. I loaded it up on my Debian workstation and used Softsqueeze to browse Shoutcast and had no trouble - that isn't my server, though. Since it worked okay on the Debian box, I'm sure it's due to something on the Slackware box, but I don't know what it could be. Anyone? Mark - this is likely due to different versions of perl, and we're not including the HTML::Parser (which HTML::Entities) uses for every platform. Could you send me the output of perl -V ? Your quick fix should be installing HTML::Parser on the Slackware box. -D -- dr.pox what're the units of the coefficient of agnosticity? I don't knows per hour? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver on Hermstedt Hifidelio
What is Hifidelio ? CD-Player, MP3-Player, Server (Linux), WLan AP, Audio-Recorder, CD-Ripper, CD-Burner all built on Linux-Platform. Do you know, what kind of hardware is being used inside? How is the performance? I am surprised, that they use a 2.5 notebook HD. The case should be large enough for a normal HD. Does the WLAN support WPA? All you need is one or more Squeezeboxes, the Hifidelio and nothing else for a running system. The price is also acceptable. Instead one could buy a headless Mac Mini but then you don't have the software, display and remote control. Although it could be fun to build Mac Minis as pre-configured home media servers. regards, Harald ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: SqueezeNetwork (was: [slim] SB2 and radio streams)
If I understand correctly, SqueezeNetwork will only work with SB2. What are the limitations in SB1 making SqueezeNetwork unavailable for SB1 owners? Steinar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dean blackketter Sent: 9. mars 2005 23:17 To: Slim Devices Discussion Subject: SqueezeNetwork (was: [slim] SB2 and radio streams) Yes! SqueezeNetwork! We're launching SqueezeNetwork along with Squeezebox2 to provide a SlimServer-in-the-sky and provide internet radio, alarm clock, RSS feeds, etc. while your home computer is turned off. You don't even need SlimServer installed at all. Just plug in, set up your networking and tune in. Access to Live365, Shoutcast, Radioio, the Internet Archive and more will be available for browsing. You'll also be able to add favorite stations, adjust your settings, etc by logging into the SqueezeNetwork web site. Down the road we hope to make the SqueezeNetwork the focal point of the community, it's where our forums, plug-ins, downloads, and wiki will live. We also plan on adding additional features to allow playlist sharing, music purchasing and let the community help build a great by adding features, etc. There's a bit more information available on our web site: http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_overview.html and http://www.slimdevices.com/au_press_squeezenetwork.html SqueezeNetwork will open up as a beta service when Squeezebox2 ships. Thanks, dean On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Steinar Bjaerum wrote: If I have an URL of an MP3 radio stream (let's say a Norwegian radio station) will it play back directly on SB2 without the need for slimserver? I.e. act as a standalone internet radio receiver? Steinar ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver 5.4.1 Red Hat probs
Hi... I'm new to this so please forgive lack of knowledge... I originally ran Slimserver 5.4.x on Windows XP and had no problems, but as I like to leave Windows machines switched off as much as possible, I decided to run it on my Linux NetMax (www.netmax.com) 4.x server which is on all the time. RPM installed with no probs to /var/local/slimserver , a recommended location for non-NetMax apps to reside. A few problems, however, running it: 1. The server does not start successfully on boot, giving me a [FAILED] and the error nice: invalid priority --user. However I can cd to the directory and start it manually with the slimserver user. It then serves music flawlessly to one hardware and several software devices. 2. While I could access RSS streams with the plugin on the Windows version, I can't on the Linux setup: it can't access the RSS data 3. While I could access my Live365.com account with the Windows version, here the plugin won't log in and I get login problem displayed. This is a pain as other methods of squirting a 365 VIP URL at it have problems (the account ultimately times out, part of 365's security process, so I have to re-specify the login every few days). I'll move to 6.x as soon as my SB2 arrives, but would like to get the previous release version fully operational first. I couldn't see any bugs of this ilk listed so my temptation is that it's probably a permissions issue, but I do not have enought data to tie it down further. Any ideas or suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks in advance. --Richard Elen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] slimserver v6.0b1 (08-Mar-2005) does not appear to be a valid archive
I have downloaded SlimServer_v6.0b1_perlscripts.ZIP (08-Mar-2005) from the server and attempted to install it in my normal fashion but keep getting a message that it is "not a valid archive". I've tried on several machines but they all have the same result. Is this a known issue? Thanks, Paul___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver 5.4.1 Red Hat probs
Sorry for not addressing your questions, but where did you get 5.4.1? Besides the 6.0 betas, 5.4.0 seems to be the latest official release shown here: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/ Thanks, Rod ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 really doesn't support 96kHz PCM on S/PDIF?
I've been waiting for a wireless-G version of the Squeezebox on the assumption that it would support PCM sampling rates greater than 48kHz, but reading the specs for the SB2 says that the digital outputs only support 44.1 and 48. Is this really true? If so, I'll have to wait for an SB3. Thanks, Kim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
I kinda got screwed too. I checked this morning when I read about the sb2, and I bought mine exactly one month +1 day ago:( I'm still having odd problems connecting after power off, and, of course, pcm streaming skips sometimes, even in situations I would have thought would certainly work. I've been going back and forth between an Oh well, I should have seen it coming with the wireless model out of stock most places, and Goddammit! I just paid $280 for a broken version of something that now costs $250! ~Michael On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 15:50:25 -0800, Timothy Knight Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have taken all of my Squeezebox problems as a sign and returned it right after I received it (just over a month ago after a 2-3 week backorder). Had I done this, I could now get a Squeezebox 2 that would have addressed all of my issues. Live and learn. -Tim ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 really doesn't support 96kHz PCM on S/PDIF?
Quoting Kim Rochat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've been waiting for a wireless-G version of the Squeezebox on the assumption that it would support PCM sampling rates greater than 48kHz, but reading the specs for the SB2 says that the digital outputs only support 44.1 and 48. Is this really true? If so, I'll have to wait for an SB3. at this time, yes. 96kHz is the spec on the hardware, and eventually there MAY be support for this or possibly higher. see the earlier posts from Sean on this issue (titled: SB2 and PCM formats). -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly won't play AAC files
kdf wrote: Quoting Neil Coburn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As you suspected, it just comes up with a box saying mov123.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. It didn't seem to get past the first line of the command. There is an error report, but I couldn't get it to cut and paste - not sure whether you need it? Thanks for the help so far What should I try next? I'll have to let Vidur field that one. If you can get an idea of what the error message says, that might help. I know next to nothing about mov123 except that it does tend to halt a lot. One thing to try would be to reinstall quicktime latest version, since I believe mov123 depends on that. -kdf This started happening after updating to 5.4.1? Which version did you update from? My initial reaction is to second kdf's suggestion that you get the latest Quicktime. An alternative may be to grab a version of mov123 from a previous version of SlimServer. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best stand-alone setup for SlimServer
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:26:42 -0500, Jeff Fila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are your thoughts on the best stand-alone server set up. I'm building a server that's sole purpose is to run SlimServer. I was thinking about ClarkConnect in stand-alone mode. That way I could manage it from a web interface if I wanted to. Any other suggestions? I'd also like to be able to connect an external USB or Firewire drive to it to add more music, but I guess I could just do it through Samba instead. If you slap linux on it - you can turn on xdmcp and remotely log into it through your favorite X11 gui desktop environment. FireWire support in Linux seems to be spotty but is getting better. Most PCI cards do work, it's the onboard firewire that sometimes don't - I know the nforce2 firewire works (at least for me) - but some onboard firewire controllers don't (yet anyway). -- http://mpeters.us/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Gapless playback with mp3 - another shot
Hello everyone, I have followed the discussion in february on the development-forum and wonder why it would not be possible to playback gapless like foobar2000 does. From what I've read on the Hydrogen Audio forum (http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/) it's all a mather of calculating with values which are offered by a lame encoded mp3. Maybe it's not Slimserver which has to be reprogrammed but the Squeezebox itself since mp3 decoding begins there ! Can it be possible to ask the Slimdevices team to study on this. Just my two cents. Excuses for my poor english as an cheeshead from Holland, Karel ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SilmServer 6.0b1 version
* Philip Meyer shaped the electrons to say... What nightly is 6.0b1 equivalent to? 2005-03-09. I've been trying out 6.0a2, downloading and installing nightly releases every other day. Today I downloaded the 09-03-05 nightly, and also saw there is a 6.0b1 - is there any difference? Not today. I'm wondering if I should install 6.0b1, or keep downloading nightly releases to help out with testing. Please keep doing nightlies, if you can. BTW, I'm quite impressed with how stable it feels so far. I've found a few issues with new facilities such as new searching options, but that's to be expected at this early stage. Thanks. We're becoming more stable every day. -D -- fuz deregulation will lead to greater competition, consumer choice, and lower prices. my name is elmer fudd. I own a mansion and a yacht. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
Quoting Timothy Knight Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mitch, For the most part, I'm with you. However, I don't think what I am proposing takes advantage of Slim Devices. With my proposal, they lose little or nothing by consolidating the resale of returned, original SB. All they need to do is figure out how much they could sell the perfect, returned units for ($199? $179? for wireless) and offer that as the trade-in value against an SB2. 1) These units will be in unknown condition, and unknown life experience. If they were to arrive back in unacceptable condition, or not last the 30-days of the satisfaction guarantee, who bears the burden? Is it good customer service to pass on goods of unknown condition to new customers? Its good for you, but hopefully you would have sympathy for the user who comes back feeling they got a lesser model than another trade-in. 2) If it really is 'little or nothing' to have to manage reciept, inventory and resale, then ahy are you so upset about having to sell a unit yourself? (and without burden of a 30-day satisfaction guarantee to back it up) 3) You can sell it yourself and be done with it. Slim would have to spend time and effort refurbishing the units. What you are suggesting (demanding) seems to imply that Slim Devices should be re-purchasing their old units at the price they intend to re-sell. I'd welcome clarification on that. I'm just trying to put the balanced argument out there, so please try not to take this as confrontational. I'm not an employee of Slim Devices, no all of the above is simply conjecture. cheers, -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SilmServer 6.0b1 version
Quoting Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks. We're becoming more stable every day. heh...that's too easy ;) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
As I suggested, 1) The units would have to be in essentially perfect condition: Slim Devices could reject as necessary. Mine is pristine, as I would guess most are: not a high wear-and-tear item (I usually leave mine at home when I go rock climbing). A quick wipe and this one could go back in a box. 2) Slim Devices would have to figure in their overhead to resell (a fact that I also noted in a previous message). Best, Tim P.S. By the way, clearly this is a suggestion, not a demand. When I buy the company, then I can demand. In the meantime, try harder not to be confrontational. What you are suggesting (demanding) seems ^^^ so please try not to take this as confrontational. Pretty hard when someone puts words in your mouth. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.0b1 iTunes problems
Where is the cache normally stored on the tarball distribution? I've completely erased the folder untarred the distro again. Somehow it's still caching the bad song count. On Mar 9, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Healy wrote: My song count is totally off with 6.0b1: Your music library contains 1084 albums with 5061 songs by 1141 artists. With 5.4: Your music library contains 1694 albums with 27221 songs by 2451 artists. It's about 22,000 short! Not all genres are found (IE: Zydeco is not on the list when browsing by genre) and none of my iTunes playlists are found. I have it setup exactly like 5.4 have tried wiping / clearing cache no change. I even blasted the config file rebuilt it from scratch, still no change. The server is running on Debian Linux box with samba shared raid mounted on my G5 running OS X. iTunes library is symlinked off the G5 to the mounted raid drive. Server settings like so: x-tad-smallerMusic Folder /x-tad-smaller(Blank since I'm using iTunes) x-tad-smaller Playlists Folder /x-tad-smaller/home/playlists x-tad-smalleriTunes Music Library.xml Location/x-tad-smaller /raid0/mp3/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml x-tad-smalleriTunes Music Folder /x-tad-smaller/raid0/mp3/ This is the exact same setup that works with 5.4. The only playlists that are found with 6.0b1 are the ones made with slimserver stored in /home/playlists on the server. None of the iTunes ones are found. Suggestions? -Healy___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
of course, pcm streaming skips sometimes, even in situations I would have thought would certainly work. On the off chance that you're running SlimServer on Linux 2.4 - the default disk scheduler is optimized for everything but streaming files, meaning I'd often get skips even while only listing a bigger directory for example. The 2.4 scheduler can not be tuned much to avoid this but in 2.6 there are different schedulers available. While I couldn't even serve two streams at the same time properly before the cfq scheduler has yet to miss a beat with 16 streams running (video files with nearly the same bitrate as PCM) C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
