Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
Peter Hunt;362629 Wrote: In Squidgy and/or Ipeng native apps, can one tap the scroll bar at the bottom of the Now Playing screen to advance to specific timepoints within a track? This would be an important function for me. Thanks, Peter iPeng: yes. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is the origin or meaning of your user name?
kidstypike;362664 Wrote: A mountain in the English Lake District http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidsty_Pike kidstypike Does that beat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseberry_Topping ? -- Labarum Brian Beresford DAC - Quad 405-2 refurbished by 405man - Quart 980s German Tower Loudspeakers. FLAC through Foobar, XP and ASIO Squeezebox 3 Classic Virgin Cable Box No FM reception for Quad tuner - but both digital radio sources are better Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
network Searver Health monitoring can help identify which component within SC is causing/incurring delays. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is the origin or meaning of your user name?
Labarum;362669 Wrote: Does that beat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseberry_Topping ? Yeah, I know that one, sounds like something you'd have with your ice-cream! kidstypike -- kidstypike kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Blank display on SB3 when not connected to music source
I don't use any of my Squeezeboxen as an alarm. I don't use SqueezeNetwork. I leave all my Squeezeboxen powered up when I shut down my PC. When SqueezeCenter is shut down my SBB displays the time. When SqueezeCenter is shut down my SB3 displays a blank screen. Is this a firmware difference, or is there a setting somewhere to make the SB3 display something when powered up, but not connected to SqueezeCenter? (This is not a 'Brightness when off' problem). Many thanks kidstypike -- kidstypike kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Server delay when browsing folders
Those errors are probably due to: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9423 It's caused by a database that has been upgraded since 6.5 through 7.0.0 to a current release. The easiest way to fix them without upgrading to 7.3 is: 1. Shutdown SqueezeCenter 2. Delete the Cache directory 3. Startup SqueezeCenter and perform a full rescan NOTE The above sequence will result in that all your TrackStat statistics are lost, so make sure you have a working TrackStat backup which you can restore afterwards. I'm not sure you will be able to create a working backup when the installation is in the current state, so make really sure you have a backup file with contents and not just an empty one. By the way, I don't think those errors have anything to do with the performance issues but I'm not completely sure. However, the errors will result in that most menus in the TrackStat plugin doesn't work correctly. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) 'My download page' (http://erland.isaksson.info/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] understanding sample rates
new at digital music understanding. A question on sample rates when I copy CD's to the PC FLAC format they are all at 44khz. Is it the source that determines the sample rate? -- David C David C's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9755 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Blank display on SB3 when not connected to music source
This is a firmware hardware difference so the SBB can act as alarm clock even if it's disconnected from SC/SN. There's even a small battery inside which will power a backup clock and eventually trigger alarms scheduled for the next time. AFAIR the SBB has some sound samples in the firmware for this purpose kind regards, Markus -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
jazztime;362695 Wrote: I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$ and the iPod touch (8gb) is 270$ (I'm in Denmark). The large touch-screen on the touch looks very nice and it is cheaper, but: - how is speed / responsiveness? - what solution is more stable? - how is the life of the battery? - what solution is the most easy to scroll through artists / find an artist in a large music-collection? - what solution can be customised the most? (now and in the future) - can Custombrowse be used on the Itouch? - will there be any differences using iPeng, Squidgy on the touch compared to iPhone? - other important differences? I have read about the Controller and the iPeng, Squidgy in the forums but havn't found much/any comparisons. Any thoughts is welcome! $370 for 1 controller, are you sure? that sounds very expensive, I didn't pay that much for my Duet here in the UK. I have 2 controllers and 1 iPhone and have been on the beta test for iSqueeze (Squeemote). To be honest I have been frustrated with the controllers, the wifi reception is poor and they always seem to lose their connection to the server. Also I find the wheel inferior to using the touchscreen. Using my iPhone is a real joy, it's quick responsive and squeemote (and I guess iPeng) is designed like the iPod player so is real easy to use. Somethings are missing from Squeemote such as a random playlist option, access to LastFM but I believe Luke has added (is adding?) these to the final release. The application is also prone to crashing occasionally but it doesn't take long to reload. For me if those prices are correct it is a no brainer, the iTouch (or iPhone) is definitely the way to go. -- mattybain '[image: http://imagegen.last.fm/recenttracks3/recenttracks/MattyBain.gif]' (http://www.last.fm/user/MattyBain/?chartstyle=recenttracks3) mattybain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Blank display on SB3 when not connected to music source
schiegl;362690 Wrote: This is a firmware hardware difference so the SBB can act as alarm clock even if it's disconnected from SC/SN. There's even a small battery inside which will power a backup clock and eventually trigger alarms scheduled for the next time. AFAIR the SBB has some sound samples in the firmware for this purpose kind regards, Markus Ah yes, of course, many thanks. Still, I think it would be a good idea if the SB3 had some visual indicator showing that it was connected to the mains. kidstypike -- kidstypike kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 96/24 Support for SqueezeBox 3
hmm...when i played with downsampling i set player.source=debug (as you did already) and copied the command which eventually will be executed to the windows command line: (a guess, you need to find this string in your logfile) Code: C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe -dcs -- E:\CAROLK~1\NICEWO~1\01-NIC~1.FLA | C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\sox.exe -t wav - -t flac - rate 44100 sample.flac This should create a file sample.flac in your current working directory. I verified this file in foobar that it plays ok and then used the found string in convert.conf. Maybe this command will show why downsampling doesn't work on your side yet. I must admit that i don't have much experience with SC running on windows, so you may need to tweak it on one side or the other... kind regards, Markus -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Blank display on SB3 when not connected to music source
kidstypike;362701 Wrote: I think it would be a good idea if the SB3 had some visual indicator showing that it was connected to the mains. kidstypike There have been hot discussions (search the forums) about this topic. Some folks want to power down the SC/WLAN-Router/Network and expect that this will switch the display off, too. Other folks want permanent info/feedback that the connection was lost, .. You should even find some bug reports supporting the one or the other position. kind regards, Markus -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
mattybain;362699 Wrote: $370 for 1 controller, are you sure? that sounds very expensive, I didn't pay that much for my Duet here in the UK. I have 2 controllers and 1 iPhone and have been on the beta test for iSqueeze (Squeemote). To be honest I have been frustrated with the controllers, the wifi reception is poor and they always seem to lose their connection to the server. Also I find the wheel inferior to using the touchscreen. Using my iPhone is a real joy, it's quick responsive and squeemote (and I guess iPeng) is designed like the iPod player so is real easy to use. Somethings are missing from Squeemote such as a random playlist option, access to LastFM but I believe Luke has added (is adding?) these to the final release. The application is also prone to crashing occasionally but it doesn't take long to reload. For me if those prices are correct it is a no brainer, the iTouch (or iPhone) is definitely the way to go. I'm looking forward to trying both the new ipeng and the squeezemote on my son's touch as he is kind enough to let me use it at night. He's 16 and part of the loan for it was that I get to use it for the SB3. :) I hope they hurry up and approve them before he cuts me off. :( -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
Hi, im running Visa 64 and was wondering how to suppress the DOS box also. I want a headless player, but a DOS box is not headless :) I have tried -o, but i still get a DOS box. Many thanks. -- autopilot *Lounge :* Squeezebox Classic - Cambridge Audio Azur 640a - Mission 701's. *Bedroom :* Squeezebox Receiver - Trends TA10.1 Class-T - Kef Cresta 1's *Office :* Softsqueeze - Logitech Active 5.1's. *Kitchen :* Squeezebox Boom -coming soon- *Roaming : * Squeezebox Controller - Logitech mm28 portable speakers / Shure E2c's *Controllers :* Squeezebox Controller x 2 + Logitech Harmony one *Server :* SC7.3b (Vista 64) + AlienBBC, iPlayer MusicIP headless. 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/) autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
Only Squidgy is publicly available; I doubt the beta-testers for the other apps will comment until released on the AppStore. As of now, I find the Controller with CustomeBrowse a much more viable proposition. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$ and the iPod touch (8gb) is 270$ (I'm in Denmark). The large touch-screen on the touch looks very nice and it is cheaper, but: - how is speed / responsiveness? - what solution is more stable? - how is the life of the battery? - what solution is the most easy to scroll through artists / find an artist in a large music-collection? - what solution can be customised the most? (now and in the future) - can Custombrowse be used on the Itouch? - will there be any differences using iPeng, Squidgy on the touch compared to iPhone? - other important differences? I have read about the Controller and the iPeng, Squidgy in the forums but havn't found much/any comparisons. Any thoughts is welcome! -- jazztime jazztime's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4951 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is the origin or meaning of your user name?
kidstypike;362664 Wrote: A mountain in the English Lake District http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidsty_Pike kidstypike :) .. I grew up on the foot of Wild Boar Fell http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Boar_Fell Lovely place, but still glad we moved to Switzerland.. I would have ended up as a tractor salesman and would never have owned a Squeezebox..(They only got broadband a year ago up there) :) As for my name .. As back in the BBS days all good names like: Happy-Hacker were gone, I went for the childish -- I like cleaning windows (3 second pause) SIKE! Don't think i got the spelling right, but it's been my moniker for 18 years now.. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55256 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
How does Settings | Advanced | File Types work? And does Settings | Player | Audio have any impact on it? If I understand it correctly, SqueezeCenter can convert any given input file type on the fly to three or four different other stream formats before sending it to the player concerned ?? If so, what are the parameters of e.g. client PC, O/S, SqeezeCenter, LAN type, LAN speed, player type etc. that determine which actual stream format is sent? All of my music files are in Apple MP4 (file extension .M4A) and 99% of them are are encoded using Apple Lossless. Is this what you call alac? The File Types page allows conversion of Apple Lossless to FLAC, MP3 or WAV. I suppose the best stream type for my files is FLAC? Or is it WAV? And are there any circumstances why I would want SqueezeCenter to convert to any other format than the best? Is it safer to disable all but the best formats? Presently my players are a Transporter and a Duet. Perhaps, in future -- when the feature finally becomes available -- I may also play music over SoftSqueeze/SqueezePlay or the audio outputs on the Duet controller... This leads to my next question: does Settings | Player | Audio have any impact on how Settings | Advanced | File Types works? Do any of the player specific crossfade, clock, bitrate limiting, LAME quality level, volume adjustment, replay gain, settings have any impact on the stream format that SqueezeCenter sends? And what happens when I have two (different type) players synchronized to the same music? Finally are there any plans for Transporter and Duet to handle Apple Lossless natively in firmware, and thus eliminate all this trancoding entirely? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
Honva;362658 Wrote: For those with powerline adapter, I have a question. Does the adapter work if plugged in a UPS(uninterrupted power supply)? My area has short power outage every few days. Thanks. The ones I have, which I bought several years ago, specifically say not to plug into a UPS or even a surge protector. I don't know if newer ones have that same limitation. -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
Quoting jazztime ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$ and the iPod touch (8gb) is 270$ (I'm in Denmark). The large touch-screen on the touch looks very nice and it is cheaper, but: Squidgy is nice, fast and responsive. Can't wait for iPeng. I have a Controller and a couple of iPhones-my opinion after using both is that the iPhone(touch) is a great 'personal' remote that is likely to always be with you, but for a multi-person household having a 'traditional' remote like the Controller laying around to be picked up and used is extremely convenient. I spent a large chunk of time listening yesterday while working on some computer issues, with both my iPhone and Controller next to me. Every time, it was more convenient to pick up the Controller to make a quick change to what was playing - fast forward, check the song title etc. My two cents. dd ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
Andrew - that's a mega-question! I'll make a start: 1) Slim can't support Apple natively because Apple is a proprietory format - sorry but AFAIK that will never happen, thanks to Apple. 2) Your player settings are independent of each other - even when synced. 3) You should set ALAC to stream as FLAC for minimum impact on your network. 4) Some features (eg replaygain) don't work if streaming WAV instead of FLAC/MP3 5) if you specific no limit in the limit bitrate box, then it will stream FLAC or WAV - not sure how it chooses which if both are enabled. If you set limiting, it will stream as MP3 instead (unless youhave disabled this option in file settings) 6) LAME quality level is about degree of compression vs. CPU load not sound quality - leave it set on 9 7) not sure if crossfade works with WAV? - maybe FLAC/MP3 only 8) some people need to stream as MP3 for marginal wi-fi setups or for streaming across the net. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 96/24 Support for SqueezeBox 3
schiegl;362708 Wrote: hmm...when i played with downsampling i set player.source=debug (as you did already) and copied the command which eventually will be executed to the windows command line: (a guess, you need to find this string in your logfile) Code: C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe -dcs -- E:\CAROLK~1\NICEWO~1\01-NIC~1.FLA | C:\PROGRA~1\SQUEEZ~1\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\sox.exe -t wav - -t flac - rate 44100 sample.flac This should create a file sample.flac in your current working directory. I verified this file in foobar that it plays ok and then used the found string in convert.conf. Maybe this command will show why downsampling doesn't work on your side yet. I must admit that i don't have much experience with SC running on windows, so you may need to tweak it on one side or the other... kind regards, Markus Markus - fantastic advice! - I got the command line working as per your example above and discovered I needed to install cygwin1.dll - then it all just worked... Bottom line: I can now download 24/96 files and SC will play them seamlessly and in high quality as 24/48 using server-side resampling. Many thanks again Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
Browsing in 1.1, my three most populated genres (most of my stuff) will not display. It does the the 'contacting server' bit but I just get a blank list. -- MillmoorRon MillmoorRon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6413 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] understanding sample rates
David C;362687 Wrote: new at digital music understanding. A question on sample rates when I copy CD's to the PC FLAC format they are all at 44khz. Is it the source that determines the sample rate? CD's (normal ones - aka redbook CD's) replay at 44.1kHz sample rate with 16-bit bitdepth. This is often shortened to 16/44.1 or 44.1/16). So when you rip a CD it will create files on your PC at that resolution unless you tell the ripping to do something different - which 99.9% of the time you would NOT want to do! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Can't see players in Squeezecenter
I've got three boxen and all are working and connected to my server - i can play music via the remotes. However, none are showing up in Squeezecenter - the players tab is blank. I've just updated my install to the latest 7.2.1 release but it hasn't fixed it. I think this started when i changed the fixed IP address of my iMac (which i use to run the server). I set up each of the players again via the remote to cope with the 'new' server location but that is probably when they stopped showing up in the web interface. So - running 7.2.1 on Mac OSX Leopard. help! -- b33k34 b33k34's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10919 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55444 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
ddewey;362766 Wrote: I spent a large chunk of time listening yesterday while working on some computer issues, with both my iPhone and Controller next to me. Every time, it was more convenient to pick up the Controller to make a quick change to what was playing - fast forward, check the song title etc. Indeed, looking at this somewhat objective the controller is better. The iPod Touch I use does have more gadget-impact because it can do so much more than the controller and I think that this is a big reason for many posters here to prefer it... doesn't mean it's more practical for controlling SC. Other poster are just very enthousiastic about one of the applications which colors comparisons and I think a number don't even have the controller ;-) My advise would be to get both! oh... and the iTouch apps must have a party mode! ciao! Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
AndrewFG;362755 Wrote: How does Settings | Advanced | File Types work? And does Settings | Player | Audio have any impact on it? They're related. First comes the File Types settings, which is universal and mostly tells SqueezeCenter what it is permitted to do as far as streaming and transcoding are concerned. Its only practical function, as I see it, is to permit the user to disable streaming in some particular format. Since Flac is normally the default format use, then this in turn means it's only really useful for forcing streaming in WAV. If so, what are the parameters of e.g. client PC, O/S, SqeezeCenter, LAN type, LAN speed, player type etc. that determine which actual stream format is sent? OS (and the software expected to be installed on that OS) determines which conversions might be found on the File Types page. The actual streaming format is determined by that, the player type, and the bitrate limiting setting on the player's Audio setting page. With lossless file formats, newer (Squeezebox2 and later) players will normally use Flac for streaming. Older players, which aren't capable of decoding Flac in their firmware, will be sent a WAV stream. All of my music files are in Apple MP4 (file extension .M4A) and 99% of them are are encoded using Apple Lossless. Is this what you call alac? Yes and no. Apple Lossless is often referred to as ALAC. But on the File Types page, at least on my Windows system, the file format is shown as Apple Lossless and the decoder alac refers to the alac.exe program that is used to decode the format. The File Types page allows conversion of Apple Lossless to FLAC, MP3 or WAV. I suppose the best stream type for my files is FLAC? Or is it WAV? You shouldn't have to worry about it, as the best format will automaticlaly be chosen. But see the next answer, below. And are there any circumstances why I would want SqueezeCenter to convert to any other format than the best? Two that I can think of. One practical, the other fairly controversial and argued in other threads. If you have wireless network issues, you might want to set bitrate limiting just to get wireless streaming to work. This is particular the case for older players that must be streamed WAV over a slower 802.11b network and that have small buffers, making dropouts much more common than with newer players. The other reason is debatable, but I'll mention it, and hope the thread doesn't go off on a tangent. Some audiophiles claim that WAV sounds better than Flac (and some claim Flac sounds better than WAV, so it goes both ways). This shouldn't be the case, as Flac is lossless and will decode to exactly the same bits and bytes. Theories on why this might be the case generally speculate that the greater CPU activity needed to decode the Flac stream has a negative audible effect. Conversely, speculation as to why Flac might sound better than WAV is that the CPU and network electronics actually do less work handling the lower network traffic. They sound exactly the same to me. Is it safer to disable all but the best formats? Can't hurt anything, but it's no safer. Disabling, say, Mp3 streaming for ALAC, won't accomplish anything if you don't have bitrate limiting set. I stream from my home SqueezeCenter to my work computer running Squeezeslave, with a library in Flac. The only practical way to do that is to set bitrate limiting and stream in Mp3. But that only affects that one player, and the others are streamed in Flac. This leads to my next question: does Settings | Player | Audio have any impact on how Settings | Advanced | File Types works? Do any of the player specific crossfade, clock, bitrate limiting, LAME quality level, volume adjustment, replay gain, settings have any impact on the stream format that SqueezeCenter sends? Just bitrate limiting. Setting it to anything other than 'No Limit' will mean transcoding to Mp3. And what happens when I have two (different type) players synchronized to the same music? You won't have to worry about it unless you have a pre-SB2 player synched to a newer one. All the newer players have the same decoding capabilities in their firmware. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't see players in Squeezecenter
odd. i've installed my broken plugins - Alien BBC and MusicInfo.scr (why is this not yet part of the standard install? It's even used on the Boom publicity shots) - restarted and it's all back to normal. -- b33k34 b33k34's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10919 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55444 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
Honva;362658 Wrote: For those with powerline adapter, I have a question. Does the adapter work if plugged in a UPS(uninterrupted power supply)? My area has short power outage every few days. Thanks. That should not work on a good UPS (which would be the on-line type). Even with a stand-by type, it could detect the adapter as being something unwanted on it's output and shut down or something. cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
Phil Leigh;362768 Wrote: 6) LAME quality level is about degree of compression vs. CPU load not sound quality - leave it set on 9 That's incorrect. It isn't a compression level, but a separate quality level. This is a LAME setting, so it's only used when bitrate limiting is set. It would be nice if related options like this in the SC server settings could be grayed out or hidden when another makes it moot. According to the LAME documentaion: Code: Noise shaping psycho acoustic algorithms: -q argarg = 0...9. Default -q 5 -q 0: Highest quality, very slow -q 9: Poor quality, but fast -h Same as -q 2. Recommended. -f Same as -q 7. Fast, ok quality By default it's set at -q 9 in SC, I suppose, just to be safe, but I see very little difference in CPU usage on the server when set to -q 2. Using -q 0 on my server does show a bit more CPU. Anyway... only relevant when bitrate limiting is forcing transcoding to Mp3. Most people only use this for remote streaming to a player off of their home network. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
Goodsounds;362553 Wrote: If you're in the US, I have one suggestion before you toss the powerline stuff. US houses are frequently wired with two phases (two different 110 supplies, to keep it simple). Outlets throughout the house (and often in each room) are mixed between the two to spread the load. Powerline signals reputedly don't always cross phases readily, and so adapters on different phases can be nonfunctional. If your server side adapter is plugged into a circuit on a different phases from the one in the attic, you could have problems. The suggestion, is try the server side adapter in a different wall plug. It may or may not make a difference. Plan B suggestion - there are do-it-yourself signal boosters, that take about 5 minutes and require ZERO technical capability. We're talking glue, aluminum foil and paper or cardboard. Google, you'll find many choices. I did this and the improvement was shocking. Alternatively, you could try buying new antennas for your router. Boosting the signal is a way to get the result without disturbing the status quo (if you choose to get a new router or repeater). The multiple phase thing is for most homes in the developed countries and for sure in western Europe (up to 3 phases in most houses). I still don't understand why they don't market a device that'll bridge across them all but I think it's because of safety and regulations (like you're not supposed to open the box with the 3-phase busbars). The home-made antenna-reflectors work very good but the best start would be a good n type router (has MIMO technology) which works for g clients too. ciao! Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
JJZolx;362778 Wrote: The other reason is debatable, but I'll mention it, and hope the thread doesn't go off on a tangent. Some audiophiles claim that WAV sounds better than Flac (and some claim Flac sounds better than WAV, so it goes both ways). This shouldn't be the case, as Flac is lossless and will decode to exactly the same bits and bytes. Theories on why this might be the case generally speculate that the greater CPU activity needed to decode the Flac stream has a negative audible effect. Conversely, speculation as to why Flac might sound better than WAV is that the CPU and network electronics actually do less work handling the lower network traffic. They sound exactly the same to me. I notice that on Settings | Advanced | File Types | Apple Lossless, the dropdown selection box for FLAC offers alac/flac whereas the dropdown for WAV offers alac. Does this mean that when Apple Lossless is transcoded to FLAC it goes through first an ALAC processor and then a FLAC processor? Whereas when it is transcoded to WAV it only goes through the ALAC processor? If so, then I would naturally assume that the simpler solution (via WAV) would be better. Any comments?? Also what happens at the player end? Is WAV transcoded to FLAC or vice versa? I may be a bit simple in the head (or I perhaps I am just an audiophile) but I would imagine that whichever end-to-end path has the fewer overall transcoding steps, would ultimately be the one that sounds better?? -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 96/24 Support for SqueezeBox 3
Phil, good job! putting pieces from my post together :-) you're welcome, Markus -- schiegl schiegl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6654 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
AndrewFG;362795 Wrote: I notice that on Settings | Advanced | File Types | Apple Lossless, the dropdown selection box for FLAC offers alac/flac whereas the dropdown for WAV offers alac. Does this mean that when Apple Lossless is transcoded to FLAC it goes through first an ALAC processor and then a FLAC processor? Whereas when it is transcoded to WAV it only goes through the ALAC processor? If so, then I would naturally assume that the simpler solution (via WAV) would be better. Any comments?? Also what happens at the player end? Is WAV transcoded to FLAC or vice versa? I may be a bit simple in the head (or I perhaps I am just an audiophile) but I would imagine that whichever end-to-end path has the fewer overall transcoding steps, would ultimately be the one that sounds better?? From a sound quality point of view, lossless is lossless and it doesn't matter how long the code path length is, the sound remains the same... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
JJZolx;362783 Wrote: That's incorrect. It isn't a compression level, but a separate quality level. This is a LAME setting, so it's only used when bitrate limiting is set. It would be nice if related options like this in the SC server settings could be grayed out or hidden when another makes it moot. According to the LAME documentaion: Code: Noise shaping psycho acoustic algorithms: -q argarg = 0...9. Default -q 5 -q 0: Highest quality, very slow -q 9: Poor quality, but fast -h Same as -q 2. Recommended. -f Same as -q 7. Fast, ok quality By default it's set at -q 9 in SC, I suppose, just to be safe, but I see very little difference in CPU usage on the server when set to -q 2. Using -q 0 on my server does show a bit more CPU. Anyway... only relevant when bitrate limiting is forcing transcoding to Mp3. Most people only use this for remote streaming to a player off of their home network. I stand corrected! - I can't hear any obvious differences between the settings on a casual check. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
You are right, it depends on what you want to do. The controller is better for quickly making simple changes (pause, skip) while the iPhone apps are better for browsing and selecting content and managing your playlist. At least iPeng is much, much better as soon as you need to control more than one player. Just my 2cts. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
AndrewFG;362795 Wrote: I notice that on Settings | Advanced | File Types | Apple Lossless, the dropdown selection box for FLAC offers alac/flac whereas the dropdown for WAV offers alac. Does this mean that when Apple Lossless is transcoded to FLAC it goes through first an ALAC processor and then a FLAC processor? Whereas when it is transcoded to WAV it only goes through the ALAC processor? Yes. If so, then I would naturally assume that the simpler solution (via WAV) would be better. Any comments?? Better how? If you get no interruptions in playback then one is as good as the other. If you had a really really really slow server, then _maybe_ only decoding to WAV would be better. Also what happens at the player end? Is WAV transcoded to FLAC or vice versa? I may be a bit simple in the head (or I perhaps I am just an audiophile) but I would imagine that whichever end-to-end path has the fewer overall transcoding steps, would ultimately be the one that sounds better?? At the player end Flac is decoded to WAV/PCM. The trancoding doesn't alter the bits at all - nothing is lost. In any case, it can't hurt to try it streamed as WAV instead of Flac. If you connect using wired ethernet it will make very little difference in reliability due to bandwidth issues. If you use wireless and get dropouts, go back to streaming in Flac. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
MillmoorRon;362770 Wrote: Browsing in 1.1, my three most populated genres (most of my stuff) will not display. It does the the 'contacting server' bit but I just get a blank list. Does it get ANY list? Because for me it doesn't -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
Phil Leigh;362798 Wrote:
From a sound quality point of view, lossless is lossless and it doesn't
matter how long the code path length is, the sound remains the same...
Indeed lossless is lossless. No dispute on this truism.
But on the other hand if you ask the sound processing to jump through
hoops on the journey from A to B then the more hoops you add, the
higher the chances that something WILL get lost.
{ I hope you guys are not designers for nuclear power stations.
Personally I prefer the main coolant feed to the reactor to be as short
as possible, rather than making a detour round my back yard. }
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Regards,
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Re: [slim] Server delay when browsing folders
Thank you for your response Erland. Todays result in my debugging: 1. I removed the TrackStats plugin in the SS plug-in setup and the problem did disappear after SS restart! So TrackStats definitley involved in my problems. 2. I am about to try your recipe, but can you tell me where I find the SQL Cache directory? I found three directories named Cache in the Squeezecenter folder, but they all contains pearl code only. I have not done any ratings, and I can live with a reset in the statistics, but I have TrackStats backup files created once every 24h which are in the 6MB range. 3. I found a small bug when I now tried to install the Trackstat-2.5.zip file. In the HTML/Nokia770 folder there is a file called plugins and one folder called plugins, so the built-in unzipper in Windows Explorer cannot, by obvious reasons not unzip these files... (But I doesnt use the N800 as a controller anymore) -- gonk Does this unit has a bad motivator? gonk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55413 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
AndrewFG;362812 Wrote:
Indeed lossless is lossless. No dispute on this truism.
But on the other hand if you ask the sound processing to jump through
hoops on the journey from A to B then the more hoops you add, the
higher the chances that something WILL get lost.
{ I hope you guys are not designers for nuclear power stations.
Personally I prefer the main coolant feed to the reactor to be as short
as possible, rather than making a detour round my back yard. }
I am a designer of VERY large scale computer systems, and I'm more than
happy to state that lossless audio computer software doesn't behave like
analogue electronics! :o). There is no direct equivalent of transfer
loss or generation loss.
There is no sound processing, just lossless audio data processing.
This has been definitely proven many, many times. If you compare the
bits from the CD to what comes out - no matter what lossless chain is
in the way - the bits are the same.
Given an accurate rip and lossless data transmission to the DAC, the
audiophile paranoia really starts at the DAC and everything beyond.
everything upstream of the Squeezebox is irrelevant to sound quality,
given the above caveats.
--
Phil Leigh
You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann
JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF
Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x
LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters,
Kimber Chord cables
Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...)
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Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
pippin;362803 Wrote: The controller is better for quickly making simple changes (pause, skip) Why is that? Because of the dedicated buttons? Couldn't this be addressed in the iApplication by having a quickly accessible screen with a similar set of control buttons? And maybe an option to use this screen as a screensaver, so that when the iPhone/Touch is sitting idle, the screen comes up, allowing a user to quickly make simple changes. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
Hi, I purchased this app and I like it. It seems to work pretty well. I've got a large library (3200 albums). Everytime I select Favorites the app crashes and returns to the ipod touch home screen. Restart app and try again and same result? Hope you can keep the fixes and improvements coming at a good clip. Definitely need Podcast access. Thanks. -CB -- ctbarker32 ctbarker32's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
bpa;362673 Wrote: network Searver Health monitoring can help identify which component within SC is causing/incurring delays. I have re-installed SC 7.2 from scratch and things seem to be working now as expected (knock on wood). One weird aspect is that SC reports the following in the log every 20 mins or so Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::PrefSync::_syncDown_error (359) Sync Down failed: No such player: 00:04:20:07:80:98, will retry in 1590 That is the MAC of the SB3 in my main system, which seems to be just fine and has a signa strength of over 75%. It is also there as part of the listed players, so it seems very odd that SC claims no such player every 20 mins...? I will go reburn the FW and see if this goes away... -- pablolie ...pablo Server: 3.3 GHz Intel E8600 Core 2 Duo Vista Ultimate 64 Sources: SB3 (4), SB Boom (2), Duet, Accuphase DP65v Amplification: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Tuned and self-built Ceeroy 3 way Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Album Sorting - Confusion, Flaws, and an unclear path forward
Random Lurker, I sent you a private message. Click on the User CP in the menu bar. Bill -- Listener Listener's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2508 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Extended Text Display Separators
If I enter multiple artists in the Artist field in the song tag, the Transporter's Extended Text Display seems to ignore the separators or to rearrange the order of the artists. I.e. Van Cliburn; Fritz Reiner; CSO in the Artist field are displayed in the Extended Text Display with ampersands instead of semicolons and out of order as CSOVan CliburnFritz Reiner. If the artists are entered with commas, the display shows the correct order but no comma. The same goes for hyphens. Has anyone experienced a similar problem? I spent quite a bit of time searching the archives and checking out various SqueezeCenter options but no luck. I must beg for help. Thanks -- dtz dtz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55451 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
JJZolx;362818 Wrote: Why is that? Because of the dedicated buttons? Couldn't this be addressed in the iApplication by having a quickly accessible screen with a similar set of control buttons? And maybe an option to use this screen as a screensaver, so that when the iPhone/Touch is sitting idle, the screen comes up, allowing a user to quickly make simple changes. I'm checking some options. But most of the available ones (like using the hardware buttons) are forbidden by apple. And Apple IS picky on UI stuff, I can tell you! On iPeng, once you disable the screen saver any player control is one click away at max. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
Phil Leigh;362817 Wrote: I am a designer of VERY large scale computer systems, and I'm more than happy to state that lossless audio computer software doesn't behave like analogue electronics! :o). There is no direct equivalent of transfer loss or generation loss. There is no sound processing, just lossless audio data processing. This has been definitely proven many, many times. If you compare the bits from the CD to what comes out - no matter what lossless chain is in the way - the bits are the same. Don't get me wrong. I don't dispute that lossless is lossless. The word lossless is a definition of meaning and it simply CANNOT be disputed... I am not talking about theory, I am talking about practice. I am simply stating that, in real world systems, as you insert more processing stuff onto a lossless chain, you will eventually reach a level where things start to go pear shaped, and eventually the chain fails. e.g. the CPU can't handle the processing load, and has to drop or reschedule stuff in order to keep up; or the network has to drop packets. Even with your VERY large scale computer systems, I bet that it is eventually quite possible to add enough overhead to the system, to bring it down. C'mon you know this yourself :-) And when things like this do happen, the lossless chain becomes transformed into something that starts to look an awful lot like lossy, where the only question is whether it becomes a total loss (the system freezes or crashes), a partial loss (dropped bits or packets), or a time loss (the data gets through eventually, but not in real time). -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Transporter display changes brightness on its own?
I sometimes listen to my transporter while drifting to sleep. While doing so, I set the screen brightness to minimum or off, but often it will jump to full brightness a minute or two later. Today, while working away, I've noticed that it is turning its display off - I can't win! Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Any tips/work-arounds/bugs to vote for? thanks! I. -- ianr ianr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55455 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 owners: Weird Logfile Entries (Errors) in SC Log...?
I had been observing issues with erratic SC performance, and no issues where apparent whatsoever. One weird thing is the following, persistent entry in the logfile, which happens every 20-something minutes... .. [08-11-23 09:20:28.9819] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::PrefSync::_syncDown_error (359) Sync Down failed: No such player: 00:04:20:07:80:98, will retry in 1620 .. The interesting thing is that this happens to be the only SB3 in operation in my house right now, the 2 Booms and the 1 Duet currently connected to my network do not report this. Have the new products introduced an odd incompatibility with the SB3? I did reinstall SC from scratch and reinstalled the latest FW on the SB3, just to see if these entries would go away. But they haven't. But at least overall system performance is now up to the former standard. I am curious whether other SB3 owners in this forum see the same synch errors in their log files? -- pablolie ...pablo Server: 3.3 GHz Intel E8600 Core 2 Duo Vista Ultimate 64 Sources: SB3 (4), SB Boom (2), Duet, Accuphase DP65v Amplification: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Tuned and self-built Ceeroy 3 way Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55456 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:21 PM, pablolie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No other programm does that, this computer has 8GB of memory and a very fast processor. Resources are not an issue. I have no doubt it is SC related. Something hangs for some reason on some occasions. I open the SC window, and when it finally opens up the reponsiveness comes back. I will wait with the reinstall until 7.3 comes out if I can tolerate the current behavior. I realize that you have no doubt and it's clear that you've made up your mind. This is a very helpful attitude when someone is trying to help you. It's good that you've closed off all possible paths except the one that you know is true. I'm still wondering what you mean by the SC Window, because for most users this is a web browser (IE or Firefox). Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic Forum
I think this was discussed in another thread where it was determined that the SB Classic stuff was already covered well enough in the General Discussion forum. Of course it has also been suggested that the current SB Classic sale and rumours of a surprise feature in 7.3 portend the pending introduction of an SB4 model with OLED display and a built-in microphone jack so it can be used as a speakerphone for placing Skype calls. You can always find rumours and speculation to worry about if you look hard enough. -- upstatemike upstatemike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55419 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
Ben Sandee;362846 Wrote: On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 11:21 PM, pablolie pablolie.3jbc3n1227417901 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote:[color=blue] I realize that you have no doubt and it's clear that you've made up your mind. This is a very helpful attitude when someone is trying to help you. It's good that you've closed off all possible paths except the one that you know is true. I'm still wondering what you mean by the SC Window, because for most users this is a web browser (IE or Firefox). Ben It's called a browser window. Could be chrome or Safari as well. If I had made up my mind about what it is causing the issue I would not be asking. But there are elements that can be easily eliminated as part of the equation. When 4 Squeeze devices can run network test at 4-5Mbit/s at the same time, it is clear the wireless network is not an issue. MY wireless network has always been rock solid, and it is easy to test for that with other tools. As to windows itself, there are also perfroamnce and system tests one can run. When every other application and system test and performance test runs flawlessly, the issues can be narowed to another area - and everything indicated Squeezecenter. The fact that I have not seen the performance issues since re-installing SC 7.2 from scratch (something I was trying to avoid for the usual reasons of inconvenience, as it wipes out several preferences) seems to indicate my suspicion was right. However, now we shall never know what exactly caused it within SC. I mentionedc in my last entry that I observe a re-ocurring synch error in the log file with the one SB3 in my current setup. I wonder whether an accumulation of those over time (a week or two) starts to affect system performance. I have opened a bug with all the information I have been able to gather. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: 3.3 GHz Intel E8600 Core 2 Duo Vista Ultimate 64 Sources: SB3 (4), SB Boom (2), Duet, Accuphase DP65v Amplification: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Tuned and self-built Ceeroy 3 way Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
pablolie;362821 Wrote: I have re-installed SC 7.2 from scratch and things seem to be working now as expected (knock on wood). One weird aspect is that SC reports the following in the log every 20 mins or so Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::PrefSync::_syncDown_error (359) Sync Down failed: No such player: 00:04:20:07:80:98, will retry in 1590 That is the MAC of the SB3 in my main audio system, which seems to be working just fine and has a signal strength of over 75%. It is also there as part of the listed players, so it seems very odd that SC claims no such player every 20 mins...? I will go reburn the FW and see if this goes away... I should mention that what finally made me go and bite the reinstall bullet was the fact that finally SC started to get confused as to what player to send music to. I would select the bedroom Duet to play some music via the SC browser interface, and the music would stream to the living room SB3. These two had been previously synched, but the synch relationship had been turned off, and yet I could not get the Duet to play music via the browser interface - it would go to a different player. Obviosuly some pointers in SC where very confused, so it's no wonder there were major lags. It looks like it's SqueezeNetwork (not SC) that is reporting 'no such player.' Maybe you just need to connect that player to SqueezeNetwork once? -- MeSue Sue http://www.last.fm/user/MeSue MeSue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=985 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.2.1 Responsiveness
Ben Sandee;362846 Wrote: ... This is a very helpful attitude when someone is trying to help you. It's good that you've closed off all possible paths except the one that you know is true. I would also like to make one thing clear: my request was not for help in solving the issue. It was a simple yes/no question as to whether someone else was observing the behavior. I have had my SBs since early 2006 and am pretty versed in troubleshooting, and in assessing when it is a system issue and when not. In both Ubuntu and Windows. It is part of the culture in these forums to initially hold on to the notio that SC can never be to blame. That is must be a system issue. And that as a rule is not very helpful when it is indeed a SC issue. Which on occasion exist. In any case, I filed a bug report for the aspects of this that I could document. Issue closed. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: 3.3 GHz Intel E8600 Core 2 Duo Vista Ultimate 64 Sources: SB3 (4), SB Boom (2), Duet, Accuphase DP65v Amplification: Accuphase E306v Loudspeakers: Tuned and self-built Ceeroy 3 way Headphones: Grado SR-1 pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55411 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
I'm finding the iPod Touchscreen perfect for browsing through albums artists. If you had a small music library then the scroll wheel on the SBC would be OK but it is unusable with a large collection - we went back to the standard remote with it's number/alpha keys just because of this. Having an alphabet scrollbar on the iPod touchscreen makes this very easy to use. The horizontal album cover display on the iPod looks OK but it doesn't have an alphabet scrollbar so it is hard to navigate. I think the combination of the standard remote (long battery life, one-click for most functions) and an iPod Touch remote (easy navigation, searching, visual display) is pretty compelling. I have two controllers but I can't see them getting much use. Regards, Steve. -- Steve Agnew Steve Agnew's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=840 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
DeVerm;362784 Wrote: The multiple phase thing is for most homes in the developed countries and for sure in western Europe (up to 3 phases in most houses). I still don't understand why they don't market a device that'll bridge across them all but I think it's because of safety and regulations (like you're not supposed to open the box with the 3-phase busbars). The home-made antenna-reflectors work very good but the best start would be a good n type router (has MIMO technology) which works for g clients too. ciao! Nick. Well, the last time I looked, the UK was in western Europe and I think we qualify as developed, but I don't know of a normal household with 3 phase supply. 3 phase is normally restricted to factories and workshops. -- Lesu Lesu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15321 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
pippin;362805 Wrote: Does it get ANY list? Because for me it doesn't No, just lots of grey lines! -- MillmoorRon MillmoorRon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6413 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
I took my iPod controller on holiday, watched a couple of films on the plane, listened to my song collection on the rented house's music centre, hooked onto a free WiFi connection at a local coffee bar and then listened to some more songs on the flight back. Got home and sat down, selected one of my play lists and turned on some relaxing music, all courtesy of the one device. I guess if you have the cash then you can splash out on 2 devices, but I'll stick to one with the widest possible use. -- Lesu Lesu's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15321 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app
Squeemote has now been submitted to the app store. I'm away from Monday to Thursday but I don't expect it to be available until the end of the week at least. Price is £4.99/$7.99. If it does get released before Thursday, obviously I wont be around to start a thread on here but feel free to email me with any issues you have before then. -- Luke Redpath Luke Redpath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=859 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?
Lesu;362876 Wrote: I took my iPod controller on holiday, watched a couple of films on the plane, listened to my song collection on the rented house's music centre, hooked onto a free WiFi connection at a local coffee bar and then listened to some more songs on the flight back. Got home and sat down, selected one of my play lists and turned on some relaxing music, all courtesy of the one device. I guess if you have the cash then you can splash out on 2 devices, but I'll stick to one with the widest possible use. Exactly what I mean, the iTouch/iPhone is great for doing all with just one tiny gadget. While traveling I also need my pocketPC for it's Skype software (find wifi and you can call, no matter where you are!) and this is really something that would make the final killer app for the iPod. Remember the datapads in Star Trek... like the Voyager series. I think the iTouch can do that and more and is smaller. The iPhone adds the communicator function. Progress! But with the SBC I can do most things without looking at it. Remember that it's very new too and will improve it's functionality with further upgrades. I'm just thinking about a great solution for the big library/scrollwheel issue and will start a thread about it ;-) cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55435 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Game On: Sonos has an iPhone app
.:.impossible;361619 Wrote: Of course, I've bought a few apps here and there, but I rarely use them. I actually like the ShoppingList app. People look a bit confused when they see me using it in the supermarket though... but they looked confused when they saw me without it too so it's no problem ;-) (I'm twice as tall as they are here in Panama). cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54336 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Delay between two synchronized SB's
Some more information, - Restarting SqueezeCenter also seems to bring all devices back into sync again (in addition to cycling the units). When I previously said that this didn't help, I wasn't shutting down SqueezeCenter properly. - I am running SqueezeCenter inside of a virtual machine. So, I suspect it has something to do with time drift of that virtual machine. - Think that it is only getting out of sync if I have not used my computer for a while. BTW, virtual machine is always on and running at the highest priority i.e. it has not gone into standby. - Offset seems to be pretty consistent at around 3.4 seconds and seems to be impacting one box more than others e.g. this morning when I woke up, two units were in sync and another was running ahead of those two units. So, they're not all out of sync. Understand that this setup is probably non compliant. Therefore, if someone has a summary of how synchronization works, I should be able to narrow down the problem. Thanks -- soaringeagle soaringeagle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55313 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
Lesu;362873 Wrote: Well, the last time I looked, the UK was in western Europe and I think we qualify as developed, but I don't know of a normal household with 3 phase supply. 3 phase is normally restricted to factories and workshops. Well... I am confident you have it but it's invisible, you have just the regular UK 1-phase outlets in the house. But the cable coming into the house will most probably be 3-phase and enter a box that has 3 busbars, one for each phase. You will probably have multiple 16A breakers and if you have more than a couple, they will be spread over the 3 phases. So yes, you could make a true 3-phase power by running extension cords from different outlets in the house and just using the hot-wires from each. I shouldn't have told this... don't play with it if you're not sure what you are doing. Also, many homes in the UK will have electric stoves, ovens or waterheaters that use 3-phase power. When you call the electrician for making an outlet for them, he will open the box to the three busbars and pull the wiring from it, no need to dig up the cable... The reason they do the 3-phase is that the neighborhood-transformers are 3-phase and they want to balance the load not just over the neighborhood but within each house. cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Storage Solution
The Rig: All of my music is ripped to a 3x250GB/1x300GBSATA RAID-5 (ubuntu mdadm) array in a box with an amd64 3800 and 1G of RAM. The box was running along just fine until (I think this is what happened) the water pump on the water cooler died. The machine heated-up and shut down to avoid burning out. I ordered a zalman fan (the water cooler pulled way too much power) and another gig of RAM (why not? in addition to slim, this box had been a full-blown media server in the past and just might be again). The Problem: After installing the fan and the memory, the machine refuses to boot. There is no video, the post code indicates it's booting, but the HD and CD/DVD just keep cycling. I have tried just about every combo of stripped down mobo I can but nothing (other than the cycling drives). My music remains orphaned. The Opportunity(?): I have every reason to believe the music is safe, if unaccesible. But I don't know what is wrong. So I'm considering a new setup that would hopefully - keep price down by reusing componnents (memory, drives (i've got other large sata drives) and cpu), allow me to recover my music and provide fast (enough) network accessible storage that is expandable (ala LVM), redundant (ala raid) and external (ala eSATA, USB, firewire, AoE an enclosure - whatever). This machine would run slimcenter and mysql (and possibly some other network services) unless it makes more sense to just pull all that off to a seperate big/bad cpu/memory only box. or maybe I'm crazy. I just know I'd like to move to a box whose sole providence is providing lots of safe, fast (enough) storage using as many parts as I already have and doing so it such that my music isn't lost (I've had issues moving raid arrays from one box to another, or even one distro to another on the same hardware). Hopefully this isn't too OT or too 'we've all already done that - next. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Enhancement idea for the controller!
Hi all, before entering an enhancement request on the bugtracker, I would like to hear your thoughts on this; I hear many complaints about the rotary dial when your library is really big. If have trouble too, not getting to the right letter (it takes some time but less than selecting first letter like on SC web interface), but overshooting it. My idea is to add a wiggle function to the rotary dial. If you wiggle instead of rotate, it changes mode to show the alphabet to select the first letter of the album/artist, followed by press middle button to get to that part of the list. This wiggle-detect should be made fool-proof enough to be not activated when just scrolling up and down a bit... like three quick fwd-rev wiggles or something. What do you think? cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55463 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Enhancement idea for the controller!
hi my main problem to scroll through long lists with the SBC scroll-wheel is the acceleration which kicks in like hell all of a sudden, e.g. I overshoot my target (stopping at S when aiming at P) I think some settings to control the acceleration function could work wonders. Just my 5c worth -- finnbrodersen finnbrodersen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17360 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55463 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic Forum
I think this thread about says it all: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54974highlight=sb4 Can we at least give it a few more months before we go over it all again? :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55419 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Enhancement idea for the controller!
finnbrodersen;362901 Wrote: hi my main problem to scroll through long lists with the SBC scroll-wheel is the acceleration which kicks in like hell all of a sudden, e.g. I overshoot my target (stopping at S when aiming at P) I think some settings to control the acceleration function could work wonders. Sure, that's what I wrote (overshoot). But if you make the acceleration smoother, it'll take longer. I think it will accelerate less when you dial a little slower, but I'm not sure. It might be made better though, I agree, but I would still want the wiggle mode to get to halfway parts of the list instead of turning like crazy for 20 secs, even if I don't need to reverse after overshooting it! cheers, Nick. -- DeVerm DeVerm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18104 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55463 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Is there a way to clear menu list positions?
I've been setting up my learning remote for various things, and I got around to the task of having a marco automatically start up my SB3 and other stereo equipment each morning to my desired 'net station. I've already had the SB3 remote learned into mine for quite some time, so that's no problem. The problem is that if the SB3 is used during the day, the LEFT and DOWN pre-programmed sequence in my macro may not work because it is expecting all menu selection lists to be clean - that is, not in any last used position. Is there a way to clear all menu lists so that when I scroll into them they all start at Position 1? -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic Forum
DrNic;362614 Wrote: PS: Not too serious now, please :) Maybe I should have put this bit in capital letters ;) Though I am looking forward to the microphone input. Nic -- DrNic SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 22900 - Debian - EN - utf8 Perl Version: 5.8.8 i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 Platform Architecture: i686-linux System: T2-WHS A3i (Intel Atom) Headless all wired Gigabit LAN DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55419 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a way to clear menu list positions?
Why not hit one of the dedicated buttons like Browse so you're at a known location? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Enhancement idea for the controller!
DeVerm wrote: Hi all, before entering an enhancement request on the bugtracker, I would like to hear your thoughts on this; I hear many complaints about the rotary dial when your library is really big. If have trouble too, not getting to the right letter (it takes some time but less than selecting first letter like on SC web interface), but overshooting it. My idea is to add a wiggle function to the rotary dial. If you wiggle instead of rotate, it changes mode to show the alphabet to select the first letter of the album/artist, followed by press middle button to get to that part of the list. This wiggle-detect should be made fool-proof enough to be not activated when just scrolling up and down a bit... like three quick fwd-rev wiggles or something. I wouldn't mind just adding in an alphabet list. Whenever I select Browse Albums, I'd first go to an #,A-Z selector. Pressing the center button twice would start the list at the top as it does now. Selecting K would take you somewhere near the middle of the list, from where you can move up to J or down to L by scrolling through the albums. The wiggling stuff sounds a bit to unpredictable to me. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 wireless bridge?
DHCP can be flaky with bridging, and it's usually the fault of the DHCP server - I've had all sorts of trouble with it in the past. Basically the server is getting confused as to why there are two devices asking for IPs from what looks to it like the same place. If the server was implemented properly it should work, but your best bet is probably to just use a static IP. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
akushnir;362381 Wrote: Could this attempt at connecting another device through the SB bridge function have crashed my router? Maybe, but it really shouldn't cause any problems. Give it another go and see what happens. You may have DHCP problems when using bridging, in which case use a static IP for either the SB, the DVR or both. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a way to clear menu list positions?
Hmm, I hadn't tried Browse yet. I did try adding my desired station to Favorites, but that didn't work. It seems the URL that is generated when the station is selected and played doesn't stay the same when the station is left but then selected again at another time, so when I picked it off the Faves list it just sat there doing nothing. -- tonyptony tonyptony's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3397 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
pippin;362608 Wrote: With 1.1 I cannot sync the database anymore against my Mac. SC 7.3. If I click the button it immediately skips Albums and then doesn't show my database anymore. It did work on 1.0 Any ideas? Is it just your mac you have the problem with or can you not connect it to your other servers? Also, did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? -- idowantapickle idowantapickle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16490 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 wireless bridge?
OK thanks - I'll give that a try... though I would have thought that the bridging doesn't reuse the MAC address (that's why it's a bridge), so it doesn't look like the same place ... -- cak cak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classic Forum
DrNic;362911 Wrote: Maybe I should have put this bit in capital letters ;) Though I am looking forward to the microphone input. Nic Hey, I did smile at the end of my reply! sheesh, a bit touchy aren't you? :D (note the BIG SMILE!) :P -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55419 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Report on powerline ethernet (five weeks later)
DeVerm;362891 Wrote: Well... I am confident you have it but it's invisible... I see, maybe only you can see it? Comments on this topic within the last few months suggested that one phase residential supply was the norm in the UK. If so, then powerline connections there would less frequently have a phase problem than (what I have heard) is often the case in the US. In that earlier discussion, it was also mentioned that there is some device available to allow powerline signals to span different phase circuits. As far as I know, three phase residential supply is quite uncommon in the US. Elsewhere, I don't know, but I would be curious to know why it would be done. It would seem unnecessary and so an avoidable cost and effort. It is not completely implausible that a Dutchman floating up and down with the tide in Panama is an expert on global building codes and practices. Your comments suggest otherwise. My comments had caveats to limit what I said to what I felt comfortable with my knowledge of, and I think that's a good practice. I try to do that with all my postings on this site. Tot later, -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27990 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squidgy for iPhone now available in Apple App Store
idowantapickle;362926 Wrote: Is it just your mac you have the problem with or can you not connect it to your other servers? Also, did you do an upgrade or a fresh install? Upgrade And just the mac, the ubuntu servers seem to work (with authentication) although syncing is extremely slow (like 5min for 700 albums) -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55073 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 wireless bridge?
Try a factory reset? All my SB2/SB3 use DHCP, and I've often used them as bridges for other devices. Neither the Squeezeboxes nor the bridged devices have had any trouble getting DHCP leases or using the network. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] HOWTO stream to a mobile phone.
Hi and thx for the howto. The stream works very nice with my Nokia E51 and I use Opera Mini for managing the SqueezeCenter. Can I set a fixed IP for my mobile so that I dont have to change the playlist every time I move from one location to another? dsjovik -- dsjovik dsjovik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21386 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39363 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't play radio, writing a plugin will solve problem?
toby10;362474 Wrote: http://radio.internode.on.net:8100/ Sorry, my mistake. That :8100 station is public, non-restricted. *Any other station doesn't work* with noscan or not. -- Kramer Kramer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55361 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
I just set up my Squeezebox and the first thing I wanted to be able to do is listen to the same music on my computer as what was being played in the other room. I have installed squeezeslave and am probably missing something rather obvious. I did not fully understand this instruction: 5a) Append a space, plus the name of you SqueezeCenter server (plus any other command options you might want) My Target looks like this: C:\Program Files\squeezeslave-0.8-12-win32\squeezeslave.exe Thank you writing this program, I am looking forward to being able to use it. -- toddrc toddrc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21384 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
toddrc;362965 Wrote: I just set up my Squeezebox and the first thing I wanted to be able to do is listen to the same music on my computer as what was being played in the other room. I have installed squeezeslave and am probably missing something rather obvious. I did not fully understand this instruction: 5a) Append a space, plus the name of you SqueezeCenter server (plus any other command options you might want) My Target looks like this: C:\Program Files\squeezeslave-0.8-12-win32\squeezeslave.exe Thank you writing this program, I am looking forward to being able to use it. I assume that's the target of a shortcut? You have to tell Squeezeslave where the SqueezeCenter server is, unless both are running on the same computer. Something like: C:\Program Files\squeezeslave-0.8-12-win32\squeezeslave.exe 192.168.1.2 -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
JJZolx;362970 Wrote: I assume that's the target of a shortcut? You have to tell Squeezeslave where the SqueezeCenter server is, unless both are running on the same computer. Something like: C:\Program Files\squeezeslave-0.8-12-win32\squeezeslave.exe 192.168.1.2 That was the target to the shortcut to Squeezeslave. My SqueezeCenter is on the same computer as Squeezeslave and all my music files. I only have one computer and one Squeezebox. I may be missing a step. While the SqueexeCenter is running and music is playing in the other room, I start Squeezeslave hoping to listen to the same music on my computer. Please forgive my ignorance, this is very new to me and I am more of a spreadsheet and AutoCAD guy. -- toddrc toddrc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21384 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
When you run squeezeslave, it appears as another player in the web interface and on the controller (if you have one of those). To listen to the same music on you PC as on your other player, you need to synchronize them. This can be done either through the web interface or via the menus on the squeezebox. Have fun. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 and SqueezeSlave. (No MusicIP for now since it throws a segmentation fault when started on SuSE 11.0) http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
C:\Program Files\squeezeslave-0.8-12-win32\squeezeslave.exe 127.0.0.1 space between the .exe and the 127. -Chris On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:27 PM, maggior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run squeezeslave, it appears as another player in the web interface and on the controller (if you have one of those). To listen to the same music on you PC as on your other player, you need to synchronize them. This can be done either through the web interface or via the menus on the squeezebox. Have fun. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 and SqueezeSlave. (No MusicIP for now since it throws a segmentation fault when started on SuSE 11.0) http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Annouce: New Squeezeslave 0.8 release availabe on sourceforge
By default, it listens to the local loopback adress (127.0.0.1). On my server where I use squeezeslave, I use the command line squeezeslave -s -r3. This means run in background mode and retry every 3 seconds if squeezecenter is not running. It doesn't hurt to be explicit about the IP address, but it isn't really needed when running on the same machine as the server. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 11.0 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 and SqueezeSlave. (No MusicIP for now since it throws a segmentation fault when started on SuSE 11.0) http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54124 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 wireless bridge?
cak;362928 Wrote: OK thanks - I'll give that a try... though I would have thought that the bridging doesn't reuse the MAC address (that's why it's a bridge), so it doesn't look like the same place ... The frame comes from the bridge, because that's the device which is actually connected to the switch or AP, and it has to be that way so the server knows where to send the response. The DHCP spec has a way of dealing with that (the server should use the MAC from a field inside the message, not where the message appears to be coming from) but I've seen servers get confused by that and do it wrong. Google dhcp wireless bridge and you'll see a bunch of posts about it with various routers. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55425 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Strange Duet issue - need some input
I have 1 SB3, 3 Booms and 2 Duets. One of my Duets is paired with a T-Amp and drives some speakers on my patio. I tried to play some music this afternoon, and I could select from my local library or Rhapsody just fine, but when it played, it would play 1-2 seconds of the music, then make a scratching noise, then play another second, then make a scratching noise. I suspected the wireless signal - checked it from the Controller - it shows solid 100%. I also tried playing the other Duet in the house - works fine. Lastly, I tried rebooting the Duet Receiver and reset the T-Amp. Same problem. What should I look at next - thanks in advance for your input. -- damager damager's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15940 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55471 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 - entering password w/ remote?
We just moved to a new house, and new wireless routers have been installed. The SB2 finds the new router fine, but when it comes to entering the password key with the remote, I'm stumped. Pressing the 0-9 keys doesn't result in any response on the SB's display, and even if they did, how can I access letters? What about uppercase letters? The manual at http://www.slimdevices.com/documentation/Squeezebox2-Owners-Guide.pdf skips right over this detail. Need Dummy's Guide to entering WPA passwords with remote. -- rocket j squirrel -- rocket j squirrel rocket j squirrel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4595 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 - entering password w/ remote?
New routers? As in, more than one router? Is your new house in Frostbite Falls, by any chance? -- Goodsounds Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
AndrewFG;362840 Wrote: Don't get me wrong. I don't dispute that lossless is lossless. The word lossless is a definition of meaning and it simply CANNOT be disputed... I am not talking about theory, I am talking about practice. I am simply stating that, in real world systems, as you insert more processing stuff onto a lossless chain, you will eventually reach a level where things start to go pear shaped, and eventually the chain fails. e.g. the CPU can't handle the processing load, and has to drop or reschedule stuff in order to keep up; or the network has to drop packets. Even with your VERY large scale computer systems, I bet that it is eventually quite possible to add enough overhead to the system, to bring it down. C'mon you know this yourself :-) And when things like this do happen, the lossless chain becomes transformed into something that starts to look an awful lot like lossy, where the only question is whether it becomes a total loss (the system freezes or crashes), a partial loss (dropped bits or packets), or a time loss (the data gets through eventually, but not in real time). Andrew, We are talking about two different things. I'm talking about lossless in the sense that no data is discarded or altered in the software chain so that what is presented to the DAC is what was in the original source. This has been proven in practice (not theory) by using HDCD or DTS material which simply won't work properly if the bits are altered. Yes, the software stack might be so deep that the CPU struggles and the systems slows to an unusable crawl. I say that's not lossy - it's broken. The music will eventually stutter and stop. The ethernet protocols ensure network retransmission of lost/corrupt packets containing many bytes (individual bits themselves can't be dropped as that is not a unit that the computer deals in at an access/transport level). The buffer in the SB is quite big and will cater for a lot of packet retransmission for wi-fi purposes - again though, if the buffer empties prematurely or fails to fill this is broken, not lossy. Finally, there is nothing real-time about any of this (unlike a CD player). The entire process is asynchronous. Timing issues can only begin to arise downstream of the SB (e.g jitter). I replied to your OP because I thought you were concerned that the software path length might affect sound quality and I've tried to explain that it doesn't. That is completely different to saying that running too much software on the server PC might bring the system to it's knees performance-wise. Regards Phil -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods)- Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Outdoors: Boombox+Creative Sub (If I remember to turn it on...) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Settings | Advanced | File Types Settings | Player | Audio?
Phil Leigh wrote: Yes, the software stack might be so deep that the CPU struggles and the systems slows to an unusable crawl. I say that's not lossy - it's broken. The music will eventually stutter and stop. Flac was designed to be asymmetric on the processing load for compression and decompression. You compress a given tune once, and play it back lots of times, so flac takes a lot longer to compress, and is fast to expand. It can be expanded real time on slow processors, such as the one in a SB2 Finally, there is nothing real-time about any of this (unlike a CD player). The entire process is asynchronous. Timing issues can only begin to arise downstream of the SB (e.g jitter). That is why the gods made buffers. And the reality and impact of jitter is still open to argument. For them, go to the audiophiles section. That is completely different to saying that running too much software on the server PC might bring the system to it's knees performance-wise. And if one checks the third party and unix forums, you will find that nearly any PC made in this century is fast enough to be a SqueezeCenter server. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC7 not support file name with double-byte character?
I have a similar problem. my music files are stored on an Airlink NAS (a saamba server) with UTF8 support. I could see chinese and japanese characters correctly from windows, but these are not displayed correctly in SC7,2,1. would like to find out how to fix. thanks, mmc -- mmc mmc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is there a way to clear menu list positions?
I've been setting up my learning remote for various things, and I got around to the task of having a marco automatically start up my SB3 and other stereo equipment each morning to my desired 'net station. I've You should teach it the press-and-hold-number action. Then assign your station to one of the buttons. No need to emulate key presses to navigate the menus. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SC7 not support file name with double-byte character?
I have a similar problem. my music files are stored on an Airlink NAS (a saamba server) with UTF8 support. I could see chinese and japanese characters correctly from windows, but these are not displayed correctly in SC7,2,1. Where are you running your SC? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 VFD Luminosity (beloved one can not sleep)
vrobin wrote: lanierb;362380 Wrote: For the SB3 in my bedroom I just have the display turn off when it's not playing music. That will solve your problem. Thanks for the hint, I already did this. The problem is that when the display is turned off... I can't read the time on the SB3 in the middle of the night :). Yeah, I know that problem. I bought a cheap green Ikea alarm clock with big LCD digits (which helps cause I'm -4). It has a big button on top which lights the LCD for about 5 seconds. I don't use the alarm function; that's what the SB3 is for. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
