Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
i despise linksys. my D-Link DIR-655 has been a champ, and got excellent reviews at tomshardware.com -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 (my home) / sbr (parent's home) / sbc (my home) - w/sc 7.3.3b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid - d-link dir-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
The DIR-625 Rev C has been the most robust and stable wireless router I have used. Great connection to the Duet Controller anywhere in the house, even 2 floors up. Never requires rebooting. I didn't have much luck with the WRT54GL: started dropping wireless connections after just 6 months. The Tomato firmware didn't remedy. Died completely within 8 months. -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about bridging
The way that it's supposed to work is that if you set up wireless networking with the ethernet cable attached, during the network configuration you're asked whether or not you want to enable bridging. The SB should still see your server. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Club1820;410920 Wrote: > Thanks for the recommendations! > > > As for the Netgear wnr854t, I also took a quick look on Amazon. > Unfortunately it has overwhelming bad reviews. Not just an avg rating, > but 2 on a scale of 5. I've learned my lesson the hard way in the past > when I've ignored bad reviews and then it turns out I get the same > problems others had stated. So I think I may pass on this one. But > thanks for the input Nonreality!!! Much appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks again! Wow I see what you mean. Maybe I got a good one. At least everyone seemed to like it before theirs died. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
http://www.polarcloud.com/tomato/ One of the more fascinating features of tomato is WOL over internet, but not in the usual way. You log in to your routers admin page via https from the *outside* and from a menu you can issue wake on lan to local devices. I use this to wake my server when I'm traveling to do remote streaming to my hotel room. I then have the admin page for the server port forwarded so i can turn it off when I'm done QoS is also a useful feature (when i figure out hove to use that) -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
This one http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000BTL0OA "Linksys-Cisco WRT54GL Wireless-G Broadband Router (Compatible with Linux)" The Amazon title is incorrect, all of the WRT54G models are "compatible" with Linux, the key to the GL model (see the ell) is that it runs Linux and its firmware can be altered. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Club1820 wrote: > I took a quick look at the WRT54G. It does indeed look like an older > Linksys model similar to mine, except with 2 ext. antennas. Will keep > this on my short list. You left off the final ELL. Its WRT54GL. The final ELL is important. > Also, did not realize you could swap out the mfg. firmware for a third > party fw. Tomato & dd-wrt I assume I can google and dl? Yes, the instructions on either site are clear. > By using either of these fw, it improves on the stock fw? Yes > version of the WRK54G, the WRT54G2. It has 2 internal antennas and can > be had for $46.95 (free shipping) on Amazon. Seems to have good > reviews. Any comments on this one? Get the one we keep talking about, the Its WRT54GL its about $10 more expensive than the non-ELL version The final ELL is important. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about bridging
You are on the money, that is what I am trying to achieve. The issue I am having, is that to setup the wireless bridge, you need to go down the wireless config - but my "server" is wired - so to connect, I need to go down the wired config! Help! -- mcgsxr mcgsxr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Club1820;410920 Wrote: > I took a quick look at the WRT54G. It does indeed look like an older > Linksys model similar to mine, except with 2 ext. antennas. Will keep > this on my short list. > > So are there no real advantages/disadvantages to external vs internal > antennas? > > Also, did not realize you could swap out the mfg. firmware for a third > party fw. Tomato & dd-wrt I assume I can google and dl? > > By using either of these fw, it improves on the stock fw? As Mnyb said, note that the WRT54GL is the model that supports 3rd party firmware. The current WRT54G models do not. Do some googling and you'll find plenty of info on Tomato and dd-wrt. But even with the stock firmware the WRT54GL is a very good router. I don't know if any of the newer Linksys models support 3rd party firmware, or for that matter, how good they are. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Thanks for the recommendations! I took a quick look at the WRT54G. It does indeed look like an older Linksys model similar to mine, except with 2 ext. antennas. Will keep this on my short list. So are there no real advantages/disadvantages to external vs internal antennas? Also, did not realize you could swap out the mfg. firmware for a third party fw. Tomato & dd-wrt I assume I can google and dl? By using either of these fw, it improves on the stock fw? Before reading your responses, I was actually considering the updated version of the WRK54G, the WRT54G2. It has 2 internal antennas and can be had for $46.95 (free shipping) on Amazon. Seems to have good reviews. Any comments on this one? As for the Netgear wnr854t, I also took a quick look on Amazon. Unfortunately it has overwhelming bad reviews. Not just an avg rating, but 2 on a scale of 5. I've learned my lesson the hard way in the past when I've ignored bad reviews and then it turns out I get the same problems others had stated. So I think I may pass on this one. But thanks for the input Nonreality!!! Much appreciated. I guess I should have given some info on my system. Running Windows Vista on Desktop & Windows XP on laptop. All wireless devices are G so I am content with a G only router. If any others can chime in, I would appreciate it. I think whichever choice I make, I will make it by tomorrow so that it can ship on Monday. Thanks again! -- Club1820 Rotel RSP-1068, Rotel 1060 DVD, Rotel RCC-1055, Rotel 1095 Amp, Rotel 956 Amp, Rotel RLC-1040, M&K VX-860 Sub, Whatmough M30s, Squeezebox 3 Rotel RX-1052, Rotel RCC-1055, Klipsch CF-1s, Audiosource Sub, Squeezebox 3 Squeezebox "Bedroom" Boom, Controller http://www.last.fm/user/Club1820/ Club1820's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about bridging
If you're saying there's an existing wireless network but the headless box isn't on it, then yes you should be able to use the bridging to have it join the wireless network (which is I think what you're asking for). The only unusual thing is that the SC server will be on the wired side of the bridge, but I think that should work OK. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Question about bridging
I am using my SB3 as a wired device, hooked to a headless XP Pro PC. I would like to use remote desktop capabilities in XP Pro, and there is wifi in the home. Can I use the SB3 as a bridge to allow a laptop on the wifi network to remotely access the headless PC? -- mcgsxr mcgsxr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Spotify on Squeezebox
Not sure whether this has been discussed here, but there is a useful guide to streaming Spotify via a Squeezebox: http://getsatisfaction.com/spotify/topics/can_you_stream_to_a_squeezebox?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_spotify About three quarters of the way down, Magnus gives detailed instructions for how to output Spotify from a pc to a SB. I am indebted to Simeon at pfm for pointing this out. It works really well! You have to use the pc to select the music, so it's not a perfect solution. But until official support for Spotify is made available, this will do me very nicely. :) -- Peter314 Peter314's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14028 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61891 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spare parts outside the US - FAO Sean.
As someone mentioned further up, and elsewhere in the forums, the stuff from WATT-POWER (now called Heading Power) here http://www.watt-power.co.uk is excellent, reasonably priced, and arrives PDQ. I bought some [Logitech]units in the US with US supplies (much cheaper when the dollar was 2:1) and got replacement UK supplies - also have replaced other power supplies that went faulty - don't bother with Maplin etc. - get the proper stuff from these people. I actually believe the quality of their power supplies is better than the originals supplies by Logitech. And no - I have no association with them other than being fortunate to be a customer. -- yeomanspc yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61676 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Native AAC Support
It's a nightmare for you to listen to but you still use AAC? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music Catalogue in PDF - Requirements?
I would also be interested -- fast eddie fast eddie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7826 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Home Server
This may seem insanely stupid to you folks but, with 7.3.3 installed on my WHS, what URL do I enter in my browser to open SqueezeCenter? I know that I can't just aim at 127.0.0.1:9000 but aiming at //hpserver:9000 is restricted to server configuration only. -- lapusey lapusey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20716 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=59433 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Playlists grow extra arms and legs...
Sorry, couldn't figure out how to word the title and had already tried this in the SC forum. Here's my issue: My playlists create duplicate songs by themselves. I can create a playlist with 30 songs and every time I open it, there are more songs in the form of duplicate entries. I've checked and double checked and that is what is happening. The only caveat is, it only seems to occur to checklists with large numbers of songs in them. 10 songs or so are fine. Much more than 20 and it starts ocurring. Anyone seen this behavior? Anyone cured it? SC 7.3.2 Windows XP Pro Howard -- Howard Passman Can I go home now? Howard Passman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16674 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61889 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Native AAC Support
probedb;410513 Wrote: > To you at least. > > Am currently at -V3 with LAME and can't tell the difference with the > source for most tracks. To you at least. :) I can hear the compression artifacts in any MP3 or AAC bitrate (even 320). Too many years of music training, I suppose. Makes it a nightmare to listen to off-key vocals (though tuned vocals drive me even crazier :D), lazy drummers ("OMG! These hi-hat 16ths are too fast! I'd best slow down the entire band for this section of the song!"), etc. Suffice it to say that there really are only two safe recommendations us users can make to one another: 1. keep a losslessly-compressed copy of your sources somewhere so you can recompress at will. 2. Use whatever lossy format/rate works for _your_ears_. Back to AAC for a moment: Bring on the FF/RW! I've just started with Squeezcenter recently and haven't yet done all my various transcoding to work with it best. In the meantime, I'd love to be able to seek within my AAC files. -- jeremygray jeremygray's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19155 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Mnyb;410687 Wrote: > The linksys WRT54GL (observe the L )with Tomato or DD-WRT firmware, not > linksys own fw. this is cheap and has 2 external antennas This is what I've been using and recommending for years. If you're content with G then the WRT54GL is tough to beat. -- jsprag jsprag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14437 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Spare parts outside the US - FAO Sean.
Moonbase wrote: > peter;409249 Wrote: > >> Everybody here uses credit cards […] >> > > "Everybody" would include me, which invalidates your statement :-) > I -do- use Paypal, though. Let's amend that for the literally minded: Everybody who is anybody... ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
I think the WRT54G is getting old indeed. Plus finding the right reference is tricky. I suppose the new generation is here : http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessGRouters/WGR614L.aspx Looks like this will run Tomato and so forth. Have *not* tested it. -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music Catalogue in PDF - Requirements?
FYI, I came by the DirectPlayBookPDF plugin ( http://ultratrendy.com:31888/slim/ ). Direct access via barcode scanning is a great idea, IMHO. I *imagine* a built-in laptop/mobile camera could serve as reader ? -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61478 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Problem Reading Playlist with Unicode Generated by MM
Did you solve this? I have the same problem with Winamp playlists. -- iwok iwok's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47866 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
autopilot;410739 Wrote: > They have stated publicly (including an interview with the boss on > national UK TV news) numerous times that they will be realising an API > that will allow things like Network Streamers (i.e. Squeezebox's, PCH > etc) to use Spotify. That would be great. I'm not interested in Spotify until I can access it in the same way I can access last.fm and the like. At the moment it's nothing more than an iTunes kind of app but with a live stream and adverts (and I won't touch iTunes with a 50 foot barge pole either). -- deadkenny deadkenny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6722 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired Only Squeezebox v3 for sale $100
The ebay guy bought it back for $100. Keep an eye on ebay, it should show up there if anyone is interested. -- postage22 postage22's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14332 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61860 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
andyg;409752 Wrote: > I will find out how this affects us. Yes, please. I'd especially like to know whether paying subscribers from outside UK/US/DE would then be able to listen to last.fm streams through SN. If not, I don't really see why the f..k I would pay for something I can't use ... -- sebp System : Mac Mini for ripping to FLAC (XLD) > SqueezeCenter 7.3 running on a ReadyNAS NV+ Living room : Transporter > NuForce IA-7 v2 > KEF iQ9 Bedroom : Squeezebox 3 > Beresford DAC > NAD C315BEE > KEF iQ3 Kitchen : SB Receiver > Trends Audio TA10.1 > Celestion F10 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/sebp) sebp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
deadkenny;410717 Wrote: > Problem with Spotify is they seem to be insistent on using their own > client (tying you into Windows or Mac and their potential bloatware), > and I suspect the industry backing it is not going to let third parties > hook into their feeds for fear that they can get around the adverts or > optional pay element. They have stated publicly (including an interview with the boss on national UK TV news) numerous times that they will be realising an API that will allow things like Network Streamers (i.e. Squeezebox's, PCH etc) to use Spotify. -- autopilot Cheers, auto. -"don't call me Shirley."- autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
Mnyb;410687 Wrote: > The linksys WRT54GL (observe the L )with Tomato or DD-WRT firmware, not > linksys own fw. this is cheap and has 2 external antennas. > > Maybe this recommendation is getting old ? for *the* router to have in > a Squeeze situation, it will still work very well in a G network. +1 I've been very happy with the WRT54GL and Tomato firmware. I was also happy with the stock firmware, but the 3rd party firmware (Tomato or dd-wrt) opens up several new features. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wired Only Squeezebox v3 for sale $100
postage22;410645 Wrote: > I made a mistake and just bought this on ebay without noticing that it > was a wired only version. Unfortunately for me I need the wifi. Here > is the ebay listing. I have verified it does work via ethernet > connection. First $100 takes it. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250393962752 Is that white or silver? What it written on the faceplate? Doesn't look like the regular SD logo. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61860 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Last.fm becoming pay-service.
autopilot;410243 Wrote: > All i can say is, roll on Spotify support... Problem with Spotify is they seem to be insistent on using their own client (tying you into Windows or Mac and their potential bloatware), and I suspect the industry backing it is not going to let third parties hook into their feeds for fear that they can get around the adverts or optional pay element. I still like last.fm though. It's a different service to Spotify and others, in that it's all more about discovering different and new music, rather than listening to what you want (I have my archived CD collection and Squeezebox for that anyway). For me last.fm is at least free at home, but sadly it won't be at work due to the ownership of the company I'm currently working at. I can fully understand the position though, especially considering the legal complexity of clearing rights for every country in the world. Though I would have thought they could run adverts instead of charging a fee. As for last.fm support in SqueezeCenter, Squeezebox, etc. As it's officially in the product and has Logitech's name behind it, hopefully it will be seen as an official 3rd party app. I also listen to last.fm using a plugin to foobar, and via Mobbler on my Nokia N80 and I suspect they might get blocked. There have already been issues where last.fm changed the API and the 3rd party developers have mentioned that last.fm were talking about access rights to their newer APIs. -- deadkenny deadkenny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6722 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61752 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Router on Deathbed - Recommendations?
I have the Netgear wnr854t N router. I've been using lately with just G type wireless but it's been a perfect router for me for over a year now. I've had no problems with it what so ever since I had it. It's fast and my SB3 has never had a problem with it and not a single dropout or stutter. It was about 120 when I bought it but I think you can get it for about 70-80 US now. I went with it and was running a laptop with a N card but just using the g type now. After I went to it I saw improvements with all my G type stuff so it seems to be a good all around performer. I figured having the N type would be good for future devices also. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=61869 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beep tone when not connected to stream
Got the same annoying beep since a few days on my duet. will try the reset trick. -- Chrobrego Chrobrego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15230 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss