Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Sike

A am sure that ignoring this thread would be ignorant...


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Goodsounds

Labarum;430494 Wrote: 
> Much of what you say is unanswerable; and yet I have this nagging doubt
> that behind the "objective" analysis in your post..

I think dogberry's comments are quite clear, and perhaps you're either
ignoring his points (and others' too, for that matter) or you don't
understand them. I think it's the latter.


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

Dogberry2;430459 Wrote: 
> There's really nothing to discuss . . . 

Much of what you say is unanswerable; and yet I have this nagging doubt
that behind the "objective" analysis in your post, and in some of the
others, is a subjective and deep attachement to the product. (Which I
too like and enjoy.)

Had I posted a similar question on a Mac forum "Are all Macs
overpriced" I would have seen a similar strong reaction.

Some HiFi forums are chat-rooms for devotees of particular products -
ask the wrong question in those forums at your peril!

But I do note that my SB3 cost a fraction of my Quad FM Tuner, and
trounces it when working through and external DAC. What value?


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Dogberry2

Labarum;430005 Wrote: 
> Does it still cost too much? Probably, looking at what other boxes do
> and contain.  And yet the quality of construction is far better than
> many cheap boxes . . .
> 
> Let the discussion continue.
There's really nothing to discuss. You ask if the SB costs too much.
That's like asking "how long is a piece of string?" Since what you mean
by "too much" is obviously nothing more than "more than I think it
should" nobody can dispute that; you're free to think whatever you
like.

But your claim that a low-end PC should be the price point of reference
is simply silly. The SB isn't a PC, and isn't intended to be. No
bottom-end PC is going to produce the sound that the SB does. The point
that a PC "can do more" than the SB is also silly. A cheap toaster can
do things neither the SB nor the PC can do, but so what? I have dremel
tool that can do lots of different things, and it cost less than the SB
or a PC. But I don't base my notion of the value of either of those
around the cost of a dremel tool.

Ultimately, the concept of "costs too much" is nothing more than a
personal opinion of the value of an item. If you're willing to pay the
price for it, then by definition it doesn't cost too much. If you're not
willing to pay the price, then it costs too much. That's the only
definition of "too much" that has any meaning. Any attempt to discuss
whether something "costs too much" in any other terms is sheer
amphigory.


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread iPhone

Labarum;430324 Wrote: 
> Yep. This thread is a runner!

"Run Tread Run", "See Thread Run" Its now got legs. Reached page two
with 11 posts and 179 views. Its truly being ignored! "Go Thread Go"


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread klgray

Bump (sorry, I had to do it).


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Re: [slim] iriver Lplayer

2009-06-08 Thread jh901

^^^hey, thanks!


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Re: [slim] Rhapsody Error for the last 2 days

2009-06-08 Thread Krishna

Thanks. No issues today. I wonder what Squeeze does differently compared
to Sonos. My friend has the same service, but streamed through Sonos,
and he has not seen any issues for more than a year (since he setup).


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Peter314

What's going on here? Have I missed anything?


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Re: [slim] iriver Lplayer

2009-06-08 Thread radish

Try here: http://www.misticriver.net/forums/


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

Amauta;430386 Wrote: 
> Best thread ever!

Who knows about computers? What is "multi-threading"?


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Amauta

Best thread ever!


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Re: [slim] Visually Impaired

2009-06-08 Thread jo-wie

I've filed an enhancement request

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12306


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Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!

2009-06-08 Thread ziggyb63

And me too Sean, thanks! Could not imagine the house without my SB3s...


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Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!

2009-06-08 Thread syburgh

Want to add my thanks for a terrific product


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

rocketdmc;430344 Wrote: 
> OK - I'm ignoring this thread right now.

No you are not!


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread rocketdmc

OK - I'm ignoring this thread right now.


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Re: [slim] Music library won't complete scan, can't play any music from Squeezebox...

2009-06-08 Thread Teus de Jong

If you're using McAfee, look here for a solution:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56785

Teus


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

Yep. This thread is a runner!


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Mnyb

It's even more impossible to ignore this tread when people are replying
to it :) have you tried not looking at car crash when passing by...


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread iPhone

Labarum;430294 Wrote: 
> How can anyone ignore such a tantalising thread title?

All to right! Like somebody found Transporters on sale for $500
someplace and changed their mind and now doesn't want to share the info.
At least its in General Discussion which this has now turned into. Let
your imagination run wild with this thread title in other Forum
sections.


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Re: [slim] Keep having to rescan library

2009-06-08 Thread Mnyb

make sure that the external HD (wherever it is) is mounted properly to
the OS *before* SqueezeCenter starts, otherwise I think SC will remove
the database and consider the music "gone". And never unmount that disk
while SC is running.

If I got this correctly SC is on the Asuss EEE, music is on the NAS.

I suppose this can be bit unstable what if you get wifi problems while
the EEE is on.


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[slim] Keep having to rescan library

2009-06-08 Thread regalma1

First I should say that I have been using my SB2 for several years, and
in several configurations. I am not a rooky. My current configuration is
an Asus EEE running XP Pro with SqueezeCenter and my library is on a
NAS. The NAS and the SB are connected via ethernet and the Asus is
wireless.

When everything is working I am very happy with it. It is close to
exactly what I want. 

But for some reason with this setup I lose my library every once in
awhile. When this happens everything seems normal except when I press
Play nothing happens. The SB says NOW PLAYING, I can create on my
computer a playlist. All my music is listed in SC but nothing happens.
The only solution I have found is to clear out and completely rescan my
library. The last two times I acutally had to retype the location of the
library into SC, though the correct location was already in the box.

Since it takes over half an hour to do all this, this is obviously not
acceptable.

When I had an HDD containing my library connected directly to my laptop
I did not have this problem. I had plenty of other problems, but not
this one. 

Anyone have any ideas? Please don't suggest I buy anything. I have
spent hundreds of dollars and countless hours trying to create a robust
SB system. I have sworn off spending even one more penny until the
system works. 

Thanks or any help you may have.


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Re: [slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

How can anyone ignore such a tantalising thread title?


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread browellm

Mushroom_3;430285 Wrote: 
> Every now and then you can find a deal (in UK at least) that makes the
> SB3 price OK. 
> On the other hand I think the Transporter is over priced.

At £1080?  I disagree.


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Mushroom_3

Every now and then you can find a deal (in UK at least) that makes the
SB3 price OK. 
On the other hand I think the Transporter is over priced.


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread badbob

Have you factored in a operating system, and software? What about a
display? Please. A PC is far more expensive than a Squeezebox.

I've got a few computers, and use a HTPC but for music the Squeezebox
clearly wins in cost, usability & flexability.

Try and build a fully working PC for £165, zero noise, low power, with
large VFD, operating system, plugin for VFD. IR remote control.

A Mac Mini may come closest, but you still need VFD, remote control,
and VFD plugin/itunes support.


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

browellm;430258 Wrote: 
> That's why there was a smiley on the end.  I didn't realise you were
> such a delicate flower.  Humble apologies.

 I did see the smiley, but two can play at that game!


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[slim] Ignore this (sorry)

2009-06-08 Thread DaveyB

Sorry, just needing to post a message so that I can then post a SC log
(forum software is picking up a URL in the log and it won't let me post
that forum message until I have 1 post already made!!).

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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread browellm

Labarum;430250 Wrote: 
> Thank you for your kindness and your courtesy. Last time I looked they
> were selling for close to £100.

That's why there was a smiley on the end.  I didn't realise you were
such a delicate flower.  Humble apologies.


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

browellm;430248 Wrote: 
> Google it, ya lazy oik ;-)
> 
> http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/3876

Thank you for your kindness and your courtesy. Last time I looked they
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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread browellm

Labarum;430241 Wrote: 
> Best I have seen is £100. Who is selling at £85? That is a good deal.

Google it, ya lazy oik ;-)

http://www.superfi.co.uk/index.cfm/page/moreinfo.cfm/Product_ID/3876


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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread Labarum

rickwookie;430226 Wrote: 
> the SB Receiver is only £85

Best I have seen is £100. Who is selling at £85? That is a good deal.


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Re: [slim] Audiobooks UI Enhancement Request

2009-06-08 Thread funkstar

Although I don't ahve any audio books I still think it's a great idea. 

You are right it isn't a trivial thing to do, but in my opinion it's
something that would be good to have.


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Re: [slim] PDA controller solution

2009-06-08 Thread Locuth

So, to summarize:

With Softsqueeze and SqueezeBox:
After the mobile/PDA Wifi connection has been lost, SControl reconnects
to the server after several seconds.

With SqueezePlay:
After the mobile/PDA connection has been lost, SControl dies when
reconnecting to the server. Also, SqueezePlay dies.

I am suspecting something and I will check that...


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Re: [slim] Audiobooks UI Enhancement Request

2009-06-08 Thread mick_w

I've not added an enhancement request to Bugzilla yet, I thought I'd try
to get some comments first.

After reading the wiki regarding the NewSchema, it looks encouraging.

I'm assuming displaying audiobooks separately isn't a trivial change to
the way SC works, and introducing a method of bookmarking (saving the
playlist/track/position in track) would require quite a bit of effort.

As with all enhancement requests, as the proposer I think it's a great
idea, but the majority of other uses might have a different view.

Mick


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Re: [slim] PDA controller solution

2009-06-08 Thread arztde

rickwookie;430227 Wrote: 
>  If I leave 0.92 running for a long period of time, it eventually just
> dies/exits. 
I was also see this in 0.92 and i did seperate it last night. It
depence to the ülayer you use.

With softsqueeze was not any problem in this. Softsqueeze was stable
and reconnection after a time was possible. Squeezeplay dies with an
offer of a bug report. In this moment also SlimControl dies.
I run SC at a eeeBox with XP

If you use a Logitech hardware its the like with softsqueeze you can
reconnect and Slimcontrol does not die. So i can not reproduce
something.
I can reproduce it only with Squeezeplay. Maybe you run in this way, or
with a duet.


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Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?

2009-06-08 Thread andynormancx

Apart from the player functionality, the other advantage the Controller
has is its hardware buttons for pause, track skip etc

However in practice they aren't as much of an advantage as you might
think. 50% of the time that I pick up the Controller it has been idle
long enough to go to sleep, which means it takes 10 seconds or so to
wake up before I can use the hardware buttons.

I can turn on my iPhone and launch iPeng in less time than it takes the
Controller to wake.

If I was starting afresh now I wouldn't bother buying a Controller, I'd
just get a Touch/iPhone.


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Re: [slim] PDA controller solution

2009-06-08 Thread Locuth

If the network fails, either the artwork or the songinfo will stop
updating.
0.94 will provide better feedback if any of the connections fail.

BTW that is a good bug report :-)
Does this happen after the device went to sleep or into any other
energy savings mode?

Cheers
Sebastian


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Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?

2009-06-08 Thread DoomWolf

No, the iPod is much faster with long lists because you can flick to
scroll quicker. There's also an alphabet list on the side you can use to
jump to parts of the list (example at
http://webdiary.com/i/content/ipeng2.jpg). On the Controller, the more
you spin the wheel the faster it scrolls, but it does have a tendency to
overshoot.

A touchscreen is just a better interface overall.


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Re: [slim] PDA controller solution

2009-06-08 Thread rickwookie

Well, of course if you let us all have a bash at 0.94 then we can all
provide feedback. ;-)

There seems little point reporting any more bugs when you may have
already addressed many of them. One quick one. If I leave 0.92 running
for a long period of time, it eventually just dies/exits. Could this be
the memory problem that has already been reported? One thing I noticed
is that just before it dies, it fails to display the latest track's
album art, just a black square. Are you properly cleaning up all the
memory used by these bitmaps?


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[slim] Nice deal on a Transporter...

2009-06-08 Thread Howard Passman

Crutchfield has the Transporter at 10% off, a free Controller and free
shipping.  Pretty nice deal and the Transporter probably ought to come
with the SBC anyway.

Price good through 6/20/09.

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Re: [slim] SB far too expensive?

2009-06-08 Thread rickwookie

Labarum;430005 Wrote: 
> I simply observe that a small cheap PC will do more for less.

But it doesn't do 'more'. If it has no display and no remote, on its
own, there's lots it can't do. It may be able to do a variety of things
being a PC and not a dedicated audio device (although for most them
you'd need to purchase a display, which could easily add another £100)
but the phrase is - 'Jack of all trades, master of none'.

You seem to be of the opinion that you don't use/need the VFD for the
most part, and prefer to use your laptop as an interface. Fine, then I
draw your attention again to the fact that the SB Receiver is only £85,
so the SFF being cheaper, whatever way you look at it, is simply not
true.


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Re: [slim] Comparison between iPeng and Controller?

2009-06-08 Thread gorman

I guess I'll wait for today's announcements from Apple and take it from
there.  I would have thought that for long lists, scrolling with a wheel
(as with the Controller) would have been easier/faster.


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Re: [slim] last.fm - a few questions

2009-06-08 Thread Siduhe

1. No - this is not normal behaviour.  I don't use Vista, but this may
be to do with the user account that Squeezecenter is running under. 
Have a search of the forums or contact supp...@slimdevices.com if you
can't get this sorted.

2. See
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64018&highlight=last.fm
for the best explanation I can give.  There are a good few other
threads on the forums which discuss this.

3.  What configuring do you need help with?  If you're using the
official plugin, it's a question of entering your account details in
Squeezecenter and then in Squeezenetwork (and authorising your account
to access Last.fm) then everything is set up - no further configuration
required.


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