[slim] Squeezepad or iPeng for better Mog control?

2012-03-28 Thread cacophony555

Does Squeezepad or iPeng for the iPad give better Mog control ability
than the native Squeezebox Touch interface? 

The Touch interface is very frustrating for any type of music
exploration. For example, if you search for a certain song to play all
you can do is play the track. There's no way to browse the album or
artist associated with the track (without doing a separate search), add
the track to favorites, etc.

Does iPeng or Squeezepad improve this or does it just present the same
functionality?

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Squeezepad or iPeng for better Mog control?

2012-03-28 Thread Michael Herger
 The Touch interface is very frustrating for any type of music
 exploration. For example, if you search for a certain song to play all
 you can do is play the track. There's no way to browse the album or
 artist associated with the track (without doing a separate search), add
 the track to favorites, etc.

Just press  hold the item to bring up the context menu. From there you  
can browse the track's artist, album, save to favorites etc. It's  
basically the same on the smartphone apps.

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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread pz1

bpa;697917 Wrote: 
 
 /volume1/@appstore/SqueezeCenter/Bin/faad -h
 /volume1/@appstore/SqueezeCenter/Bin/flac -h
These are the toplines of the headers on DS212+:

*** Ahead Software MPEG-4 AAC Decoder V2.7 **
Build: Dec 28 2011
Copyright 2002-2004: Ahead Software AG
http://www.audiocoding.com
Fixed point version

===
flac - Command-line FLAC encoder/decoder version 1.2.1
Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005,2006,2007  Josh Coalson

Both seem to run, but may be the versions are to old? I assume faad and
flac are not part of the LMS package, but come from Synology?


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread bpa

pz1;698004 Wrote: 
 Both seem to run, but may be the versions are to old? I assume faad and
 flac are not part of the LMS package, but come from Synology?

The versions look right.

The should come with LMS and they are in the SqueezeCenter directory.
IIRC The LMS version need patches and so standard version will not
work.  They may have been rebuilt for the NAS by Synology.  So both
should have a recent Build date in the banner and also a Patched for


The end of file or error on socket message now means AAC stream data
is either not reaching the faad for decoding or the transcoded AAC is
not being received by LMS from flac.  Can you repeat the logging on the
faulty system with player.source set to DEBUG this will give some more
info and may help pinpoint the source.


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread pz1

bpa;698007 Wrote: 
 Can you repeat the logging on the faulty system with player.source set
 to DEBUG this will give some more info and may help pinpoint the
 source.

Thanks for the time you are spending on this. Log attached. The log is
a bit longer I also left older entries in it. My experiment with the
problem URL started at about 10:14h today.


+---+
|Filename: PlayerSourceDebug.zip|
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13202|
+---+

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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread Mushroom_3

My wife has just purchased an iPad. I was reading this thread to help
decide which app to purchase and my decision has been made easy by
pippin's antics. I would not purchase anything from someone who would
stoop to such petty tactics. SqueezePad looks fine to me and it's
author appears honourable.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread DaveWr

mherger;697986 Wrote: 
  Well, as I said: just tell me when it's out or provide a screen sho
 and
  I change it.
 
 FWIW: the controller app didn't need an update for full resolution Now 
 
 Playing screen images, did it? No comparison there. I wonder why...
 
 C'mon pippin, your app is great. No need play this sort of silly
 games.
 
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It's called competition and marketing - something Logitech could do
with learning a little about.  iPeng has been a lifeline to Squeeze
stuff in the early days, well before ALL the other apps, so cut the guy
some slack.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread pippin

mherger;697986 Wrote: 
  Well, as I said: just tell me when it's out or provide a screen sho
 and
  I change it.
 
 FWIW: the controller app didn't need an update for full resolution Now 
 
 Playing screen images, did it? No comparison there. I wonder why...
 
 C'mon pippin, your app is great. No need play this sort of silly
 games.
 

OK, maybe this has obviously come through as a resolution-only thing
which is not what the intention was.In the very first place, there is a
very considerable size difference.

And: will you change the resolution and size? Ever?

On the big ones i't also quite simple: for most cases it will simply be
the same for quite a while since most people don't have any artwork that
will show in retina resolution on the big cover display. In all Apps.
But most people have artwork that can look good as a thumbnail.

bluegaspode;697992 Wrote: 
 Hi virgiliomi,
 ... 
 I guess I'll need about two weeks to be really pleased with the next
 even more Retina improved version of SqueezePad (then add one or two
 weeks for Apples review queue).

OK, abut that didn't keep you from pointing out in posts in the forum
and in the App Store, that SqueezePad is now Retina Ready and how
gorgeous is looks like on the retina display and so on.
I'm actually not the first one doing that here.

virgiliomi obviously caught that spin and thought he had a retina App
already.
And actually myself, I also did not even imagine that you consider your
App to be inferior and not ready for retina, yet, you do sound different
yourself.

And also, the point is not only resolution, it's also size, which
simply just matters more now that the big cover thumbs also look good
in high resolutions.
This has been a difference between the Apps ever since they came out. I
actually spent month optimizing the views so that they perform well with
biug artwork. Not now but already before iPeng for iPad came out.

bluegaspode, you yourself have never shied away from bold comparisons.
You are quick to point out differences if they are in your favor, for
example that SqueezePad would load artwork faster because it uses the
small scales (which is not even true, with most servers it's even
slower than iPeng even with the small artwork, no idea why) and you
never had an issue with posting threads that stick around for years and
that did hold even clearly false claims, what was with §6UWG when you
claimed that SqueezePad brings Playback to the iPad? Playback is
built into the iPad and even if it comes to Squeezebox streaming to the
iPad your App was the 4th that worked on iPad and even the second one of
the dedicated iPad Apps (Squeezey was first). That thread also sticks
around for years.
Stop whining about things you do yourself.


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread bpa

The relevant part of the log is 

Code:

12-03-28 10:15:02.0228] Slim::Player::Player::_buffering (1169) 
Buffering... 0 / 261120
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0465] Slim::Player::Pipeline::sysread (282) Pipeline 
doesn't have pending bytes - trying to get some from source
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0500] Slim::Player::Pipeline::sysread (304) Attempting to 
write to pipeline writer
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0523] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (347) readlen 
undef: (Broken pipe) 32
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0544] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (374) end of 
file or error on socket, song pos: 0
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0564] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (379) 
00:1a:92:59:ea:5c mark end of stream
  [12-03-28 10:15:02.0584] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (387) Didn't 
stream any bytes for this song; mark it as failed



It looks like LMS got initial data from the station and then when it
tries to get transcoded data from the faad/flac process - the socket
connection has been closed. This usually means faad/flac have
crashed/stopped for some reason.  This is odd and need to think awhile
on how to find out what's happening and why.


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Re: [slim] Squeezepad or iPeng for better Mog control?

2012-03-28 Thread pippin

As Michael said, a long-touch gets you a context menu and actually it's
the same thing in SqueezePad, iPeng and also the Squeezebox Controller
App. Just that, of course, you can shore more stuff at the same time on
the iPad so that it's easier to browse and iPeng and SqueezePad also
have some features to give you additional artist info but the browsing
actually is the same in all three cases.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread pippin

OK, since obviously Michael and bluegaspode felt offended by the full
resolution comparison, I have now scaled down the screen shots in the
first post, if you want to see full-resolution shots of iPeng, you can
download them from http://penguinlovesmusic.com


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread Jeff Flowerday

bluegaspode;697992 Wrote: 
 Hi virgiliomi, 
 when the new iPad arrived it turned out that SqueezePad had an option
 set, which made the previous version look really bad on iPad3. Not even
 the fonts did scale automatically, this is what has been fixed in
 version 1.9.4 of SqueezePad, which gives a huge boost for SqueezePad on
 Retina display already.
 Yet there is a lot of work and areas left, which I'm working at in this
 very moment, for instance all icons need special treatment (they also
 haven't been updated in iPeng yet) and in iPeng pippin now was just
 faster with album art handling than me.
 
 But this is only a temporary effect and this is why I am not really
 amused about the type of advertisement pippin started right now. 
 As a developer you don't get the devices faster than any normal
 customer (and due to problems I even only got the iPad on Wednesday
 last week). One just needs to have a real device to see, how e.g.
 different types of album art scaling really work out with the new
 possibilities of the iPad.
 I guess I'll need about two weeks to be really pleased with the next
 even more Retina improved version of SqueezePad (then add one or two
 weeks for Apples review queue). I'm only working on SqueezePad my free
 time, and actually we are moving right now, so my wife rather wants me
 to get some paint on the wall, which makes Apples release date of the
 new iPad a bit complicated for me ;)

I told you well over a year ago that the art in squeeze pad looked like
crap in comparison to iPengHD, but now that pippen announces retina art
it first you are crying foul.  Come on.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread Jeff Flowerday

mherger;697986 Wrote: 
  Well, as I said: just tell me when it's out or provide a screen sho
 and
  I change it.
 
 FWIW: the controller app didn't need an update for full resolution Now 
 
 Playing screen images, did it? No comparison there. I wonder why...
 
 C'mon pippin, your app is great. No need play this sort of silly games.
 
 -- 
 
 Michael

There must be at least a few of the 100s of LMS bug reports that have
to be a higher priority than the worrying about comments on the
rudimentary Logitech iOS app?


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread Mushroom_3

DaveWr;698021 Wrote: 
 It's called competition and marketing - something Logitech could do with
 learning a little about.  iPeng has been a lifeline to Squeeze stuff in
 the early days, well before ALL the other apps, so cut the guy some
 slack.

I have no problem with him highlighting his product - there's no need
to criticise someone else's product. Especially a fellow forum member.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread pippin

Mushroom_3;698039 Wrote: 
 I have no problem with him highlighting his product - there's no need to
 criticise someone else's product. Especially a fellow forum member.

Please show me where I did that.
I just pointed out that iPeng uses bigger graphics and that they are
retina quality. I did not criticize anybody.


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread epoch1970

pippin;698030 Wrote: 
 OK, since obviously Michael and bluegaspode felt offended by the full
 resolution comparison, I have now scaled down the screen shots in the
 first post, if you want to see full-resolution shots of iPeng, you can
 download them from http://penguinlovesmusic.com

So now you imply that half a Penguin is better than a full of the other
apps ?
Decidedly. You're going too far ;)


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread pippin

epoch1970;698053 Wrote: 
 So now you imply that half a Penguin is better than a full of the other
 apps ?
 Decidedly. You're going too far ;)

No, half a penguin is better than half of the other Apps ;)
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[slim] Disappearing players and iRadio randomly?

2012-03-28 Thread drewski300

I'm fairly new to Squeezebox so bare with me. I installed a new
converted computer to a vortexbox and have 3 streams of audio setup
(one headphone out and 2 USB outs). Those all work fine. The problem
I'm having is I believe network related and I'm not sure how to fix it.
Essentially, we are constantly losing player 1 stream and the local
radio would disappear from the squeezebox GUI on all three players.
When I go to the local radio the channels won't populate and then 20
mins later they show up. This happens on all three streams. Player 1
would also randomly show back up in the player selection as well. When
local iRadio shows up, whenever I make a selection it would indicate
This station is not available in your country once or twice then
begin to play the stream without interuption. mysqueezebox.com won't
show players even though the GUI shows my apps loaded. I don't believe
it's a VB issue.

??

All of this screams firewall issue on the network but I don't know if
there are incoming or outgoing ports that need to be opened for these
services to work properly. Does anyone have a recommendation or
advice?

Currently using Netgear Prosafe FVS336G VPN gigabit router with 2 24
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Re: [slim] Android tablet app for logitech boom

2012-03-28 Thread bj999

Hello logitech experts.

I now updated my readyNas firmware with file
LogitechMediaServer_7.7.1-sparc-readynas.bin

I hope this is the latest version. Does anyone know?

However since the update non of my players work correctly. I was asked
to logon to mySqueezebox.com and chose location of my music (on my NAS)
and other things.

I stoppend and restarted the streaming service via my ReadyNas and
currently re-boot the NAS.

Could there be an error with the update? I got the message it should
have been fine.
Where can I actually see the latest firmware version?
Should I do a roll-back to the older firmware?

Any tips and guidance is highly appreciated :-)

Cheers, 
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Re: [slim] Android tablet app for logitech boom

2012-03-28 Thread slate

FYI if you are on the European mySqueezebox.com server then it have had
some downtime today. But appears to be up running again.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94336

Besides that 7.7.2 was supposed to be released the other day… but it
appears that it is not quite out there yet


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread bpa

Do you have the same problem if you play aac/m4a audio files rather than
internet streams  ?


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Re: [slim] Want Retina Artwork on iPad? Check out iPeng for iPad 1.3!

2012-03-28 Thread Hofstede

My 2 cents: I stopped using iPeng a few months ago. I didn't even
install it on my new iPad 3. Why? Because in my personal opinion it
gets more and more extra's I don't want/need/use. I only want a program
to control my players. This was iPeng's functionality on it's original
release. For my taste it is getting pretty close to the edge of
bloatware. But as it's creator Pippin has the right to change his app
as he sees fit.
I much prefer the simplicity of Squeezepad and that is the app I
recommend to friends when they ask me for my opinion.


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread pz1

bpa;698132 Wrote: 
 Do you have the same problem if you play aac/m4a audio files rather than
 internet streams  ?

I don't such files, can you give me a pointer where I can download a
track. (Google only gives loads of software for conversion)


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Re: [slim] Internet radio problem with v7.71 SPK not with v7.7.1 SSODS

2012-03-28 Thread bpa

Here is a test file on the Hydrogenaudio website - download the file at
the URL below
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?act=attachtype=postid=2073


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Re: [slim] Disappearing players and iRadio randomly?

2012-03-28 Thread pski

drewski300;698094 Wrote: 
 I'm fairly new to Squeezebox so bare with me. I installed a new
 converted computer to a vortexbox and have 3 streams of audio setup
 (one headphone out and 2 USB outs). Those all work fine. The problem
 I'm having is I believe network related and I'm not sure how to fix it.
 Essentially, we are constantly losing player 1 stream and the local
 radio would disappear from the squeezebox GUI on all three players.
 When I go to the local radio the channels won't populate and then 20
 mins later they show up. This happens on all three streams. Player 1
 would also randomly show back up in the player selection as well. When
 local iRadio shows up, whenever I make a selection it would indicate
 This station is not available in your country once or twice then
 begin to play the stream without interuption. mysqueezebox.com won't
 show players even though the GUI shows my apps loaded. I don't believe
 it's a VB issue.
 
 ??
 
 All of this screams firewall issue on the network but I don't know if
 there are incoming or outgoing ports that need to be opened for these
 services to work properly. Does anyone have a recommendation or
 advice?
 
 Currently using Netgear Prosafe FVS336G VPN gigabit router with 2 24
 port gigabit Prosafe switches.

Hi and welcome to the fun help

I think I understand you have a computer running VortexBox?

When you say radio disappears does that mean a hardware player (SBR
is something everyone understands) or network radio playback?

We will try to help.

Paul


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Re: [slim] Disappearing players and iRadio randomly?

2012-03-28 Thread pski

Do you know about DHCP? It might be a relatively new devices is
grabbing an ip that goes to sleep.

DHCP leases on your home network should usually set as long as
possible.

See Networking 101 here:

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Enjoying_your_music_from_another_place

P


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Re: [slim] Moderating the forums

2012-03-28 Thread pski

Mnyb;586229 Wrote: 
 pfff :) 
 Fanboys ;)
 
 And a variant of justice obsession syndrome people that can badmouth
 the product for years instead of A: get another product B: get a life
 or C: A  B .
 
 Or look at for example the audiophile forum where people daily claims
 things about the product performance or behavior that's simply not true
 .
 
 

I appreciate both of these.

Ignorance is bliss and there are seemingly popular folks in the
Audiophile area that simply do not understand HTTW. How These Things
Work

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[slim] Live Music Archive Ap

2012-03-28 Thread melsbree

I have been using a Squeezebox Classic for the last couple of years, and
it's terrific.  Just the other day the Live Music Archive Application
seemed to stop being able to find any users.  I am wondering if others
have experienced the same issue and/or have any thoughts as to why I am
not getting content from LMA any longer through the Squeezebox?


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Re: [slim] Live Music Archive Ap

2012-03-28 Thread dasmueller

I also could not access this app. I do not often use it but there
appears to be a potential issue. I created a new password and that did
not help. Kept going back to the login page


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Re: [slim] How to hide forum threads

2012-03-28 Thread andy_c

Soulkeeper;697480 Wrote: 
 I found a Greasemonkey script 'on this page'
 (http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/eat-drink-man-woman-16/hide-those-annoying-threads-3056566.html),
 and made a single modification (the @include parameter) to make it work
 on forums.slimdevices.com.

Excellent, thank you very much!


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Re: [slim] Disappearing players and iRadio randomly?

2012-03-28 Thread drewski300

Thanks Paul for the help.

Currently the Vortexbox is set to static and we did an IP scan to
ensure their wasn't two devices using the same address. So I don't
believe it's a network conflict.

As far as SBR, the streams work fine however the local radio is the
issue. The local stations will intermittently disappear and reappear
randomly from the squeezebox server even though the the SBR will still
work. The message stating the station cannot be played in this country
only happens with local radio stations. All of them!

By your networking wiki above it does mention needing to set up two
port forwarding rules. I believe because the router has a firewall
built-in these two rules need to be setup to work properly. I'll try
that on Friday and report back.

Thanks


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Re: [slim] Live Music Archive Ap

2012-03-28 Thread Mnyb

yes it's dead maybe time for a bug report ?


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