Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-08-15 Thread chill

pippin wrote: 
 I've written a pretty long article on the new audio capabilities here:
 
 http://penguinlovesmusic.de/2012/08/14/ipeng-goes-audiophile/
 

I've just taken a look at your blog post.  I had somehow missed the
improved syncing that came with the previous release.  This is truly a
capable and impressive Squeezebox player now.  I'm holding out hope that
Apple will announce a 7 iPad in a few weeks time.  One of those sitting
in a USB dock and running iPeng would now make a very serious
alternative to a Squeezebox Touch.  Perhaps Logitech have seen the
writing on the wall and that's the reason they're not coming out with
any new players :)



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Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-08-15 Thread epoch1970

Heh. I came with a nasty idea to test the improved synching claim. I
hooked my iPhone to the line in port of my Boom, set it to always on
and then I synched the Boom and iPeng on a few songs I know perfectly
well. Both devices are on the wifi network, test songs were FLAC.

I expected disaster using this ridiculous setup. I found one or two
awkward moments, an occasional noticeable echo when skipping, and
otherwise normal sound. It suppose that leaving the iPhone alone is
better, although the iPhone seemed quite immune against my attempts at
putting it out of synch by doing other things (web surfin' with Safari)
while playing music.

I did not try the same test with a hardware player instead of iPeng.
This has made me curious. I think I'll try some more synching using a
regular setup.

You have my go to start making an iThing dock that looks as good as the
SB3 :)



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread toby10

Software player is something like SqueezePlay which runs on your
computer.  It emulates a hardware player, plays LMS audio through the
computer speakers, can be used to control other hardware players.  This
is different than the LMS web UI.

What is your LMS version?  LMS  Settings  Information



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Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-08-15 Thread pippin

After skipping it may take a moment until it sync back completely. If it
gets out of sync during skipping, the server needs to process the
resulting timestamps to find out how much it's wrong and to compensate
for it.
Normal drift during playback should not get that far but be compensated
away much earlier.



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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.2 released

2012-08-15 Thread Wiredcharlie

Wiredcharlie wrote: 
 Ralphy,
 
 Thanks for your hard work!
 
 Regarding the Raspbian port for the Raspberry Pi - I can't get it to
 work. If I use the -I switch, it correctly reports my server. If I use
 the -L switch it sees audio devices. But if I actually try to connect
 with an ip or -F, it closes after a few seconds.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Tony

Hi Ralphy - thanks for getting back.

With command line:
pi@raspberrypi /usr/bin $ squeezeslave  -dslimproto -dslimaudio_http
-Y/home/pi/closes.log 192.168.1.100

closes.log:

proto_thread: state=1
proto_thread: PROTO_CLOSED cond_wait
slimproto_connect: (192.168.1.100, 3483)
proto_close: state 1
proto_close: not connected
http_thread state 2
proto_thread: state=2
proto_sigpipe: MSG_NOSIGNAL
proto_connect: connected to 192.168.1.100
proto_thread: state=3
proto_send: cmd=HELO len=36
proto_recv: cmd=vfdc len=174
proto_recv: cmd=vfdc len=174
proto_recv: cmd=vfdc len=174
proto_recv: cmd=audg len=24
proto_recv: cmd=vfdc len=174
proto_recv: cmd=vfdc len=174
proto_recv: (1) n=0 msg=Success(0)
proto_close: state 3
proto_thread: state=1
proto_thread: PROTO_CLOSED cond_wait
proto_close: state 1
proto_close: not connected






pi@raspberrypi /usr/bin $ squeezeslave -L
Output devices:
0: (ALSA) bcm2835 ALSA: bcm2835 ALSA (hw:0,0) (11/46)
1: (ALSA) sysdefault (11/46)
* 2: (ALSA) default (11/46)

pi@raspberrypi /usr/bin $ squeezeslave -I
music:9000 (192.168.1.100)

I don't understand the log file!

Thanks

Tony



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Re: [slim] Squeezeplay Mountain Lion Install

2012-08-15 Thread mozzer503

I have a mid 2010 imac and mini, both are too old to run airplay. I also
have a generation 2 ATV which does support airplay.
The silence is killing me. I've voted for the bug.



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Re: [slim] Wireless networking problem, can any explain this to me...

2012-08-15 Thread phycomp

Maybe try changing the wireless network channel?



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Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-08-15 Thread pippin

chill wrote: 
 I'm holding out hope that Apple will announce a 7 iPad in a few weeks
 time.

Don't hold your breath, I don't believe this is going to come this
year.
Released now, they would have no software for it and as opposed to
Google, Apple usually doesn't do stupid things like that.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread MrClive

Thanks Toby

I think I know where you're coming from

Going into the LMS that's installed on the old desktop that's running
Vortexbox software In Server SettingInformation I have the following
(which looks like an older version of the software.

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.1 - r33751 @ Sat Jan 14 13:31:51 EST
2012
Hostname: vortexbox.localdomain
Server IP Address: 192.168.0.7
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Red Hat - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: i686-linux
Perl Version: 5.14.2 - i386-linux-thread-multi
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 2



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[slim] Crackling between tracks

2012-08-15 Thread NigelD

I have recently bought a Synology DS212j NAS server and have transferred
my music to it from my Mac. 

I'm now streaming from the NAS over my wireless network to a Squeezebow
receiver into a DAC.

Since using the NAS to distribute I'm getting an annoying crackling at
the end and very beginning of each track.  Never had it before when
streaming direct from Mac. I don't get the crackling when streaming
Spotify using the plugin so my guess is it's the NAS itself that's the
issue

Has anyone else had this issue or any guesses as to what the issue is?

Your help will be most gratefully received

Nigel



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Re: [slim] Can I stream my music over the internet?

2012-08-15 Thread ismarketing

I've been running AG for 2+ years with no problems - security or
otherwise.  It runs 24/7 on my mac mini and plays nice with with Mac
firewall.  The iphone app has also worked flawlessly.  Both the web and
mobile apps handle album art better than LMS.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread MrClive

I've just tried installing the newer version of LMS sofware. I'd guessed
that as Vortexbox has effectively converted the old desktop into a Linux
based server that I should choose the Linux RPM from the dropdown.
However when I try and do this windows (on the laptop I'm connecting to
the LMS on) comes up with

windows can't open this file

Logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-1.

If I download the Windows Version of LMS it tries to install it on the
laptop I'm connecting to the Vortexbox as opposed the Vortexbox PC.

Any suggestions?



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread garym

MrClive wrote: 
 I've just tried installing the newer version of LMS sofware. I'd guessed
 that as Vortexbox has effectively converted the old desktop into a Linux
 based server that I should choose the Linux RPM from the dropdown.
 However when I try and do this windows (on the laptop I'm connecting to
 the LMS on) comes up with
 
 windows can't open this file
 
 Logitechmediaserver-7.7.2-1.
 
 If I download the Windows Version of LMS it tries to install it on the
 laptop I'm connecting to the Vortexbox as opposed the Vortexbox PC.
 
 Any suggestions?

Why are you not simply using the vortexbox update which will also update
LMS to 7.7.2. Use the vb webgui. Or if you don't want to do this, see
the vortexbox website FAQs or howtos on how to only install latest LMS.



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Re: [slim] Crackling between tracks

2012-08-15 Thread pippin

That's probably because the Synology needs to transcode for the Receiver
and maybe it's not fully up to the task.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread MrClive

Thanks gary

After posting this I did try the vortexbox update but it didn't seem to
update lms. 

I logged in via using the vortexbox ip address if this is the same vb
gui that you mentioned.

do I need to connect a keyboard and monitor as an alternative way of
updating this? I can get one from work.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Touch Buffering

2012-08-15 Thread garym

MrClive wrote: 
 Thanks gary
 
 After posting this I did try the vortexbox update but it didn't seem to
 update lms. 
 
 I logged in via using the vortexbox ip address if this is the same vb
 gui that you mentioned.
 
 do I need to connect a keyboard and monitor as an alternative way of
 updating this? I can get one from work.

Don't need monitor and keyboard. Can access command line on vb machine
by using something like putty or cryptoterm from another computer on
your network. Info on doing this at the vortexbox site and links to
downloading these programs. 

What version of vortexbox are you on? 2.1?



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Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad

2012-08-15 Thread chill

pippin wrote: 
 Don't hold your breath, I don't believe this is going to come this
 year.
 Released now, they would have no software for it and as opposed to
 Google, Apple usually doesn't do stupid things like that.

Spoilsport.



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Re: [slim] What if Logitech pulls the plug

2012-08-15 Thread wildgoose

mortslim wrote: 
 Music access, not ownership, is the future

I don’t know. I’d rather pay the $120 every year to buy songs off iTune
rather than waste them on some music rental services. I have so many
monthly payments that, despite my love for music, I have not signed up
for any music rental services. Music accesses are definitely changing.
Consumers have more choices now than they ever did before. But I don’t
believe the vast majority will pay a monthly fee to listen to music. I
do however believe a far more majority will pay for video services. 

My guess is the original Slim devices people, those who had vision and
roadmaps of where they want the devices to go, are long gone. Logitech
just doesn’t quite know what to do with the product besides coming out
with incremental products/fixes/changes. The way the product has evolved
over the last few years is consistent with someone’s earlier comment
about 3 different generations of management for this at Logitech. No one
in charge has a good vision or bold enough to make big changes.

This is different from Sonos. For Sonos, it’s their main product. Either
they make it, or they die. So they put much more effort into it than
Logitech (advertising, RD, etc..). The survival of Logitech does not
depend on SB, the survival of Sonos depends on their products.

As for specifics, there are quite a few things Logitech could’ve done to
improve the SB experience, in no particular order:

- Replace Perl in SBS with Java or something less heavy. Perl is picked
because it allowed Slim devices to originally bring the product to
market fast, but it has far out lived its usefulness. Something more
lightweight and efficient will enable better product development in the
future and allow more efficient use of resources when SBS is run on less
capable hardware. Basically a SBS re-write focusing on
speed/feature/efficiency.

- Improve music library management. When you have lots of music, how do
you organize them? You can label them for example, my music, wife's
music, baby music, with ratings, smart playlist, etc. Something that
will enable more intelligent music playback that will impress the user.
Yes, I can do some of it with addons, and I can manually create
playlists. But what I really want is some integrated solution. Don’t
make the mistake of Palm which provided a basic OS and hopes 3rd party
software vendors will fill all the holes. You need to make improvements
to the products itself like Apple does.

- Switch to a common platform such as Android (heck, is there anything
else?). Provide video features. The first thing my brother in law asked
me when I gave him a SB Touch is, can I hook this up to my TV and watch
Netflix? ;) Can I see the playlist on the TV, etc..

Honestly, I think Logitech is the wrong home for SB. Google might be a
better choice. I’d love to see a combo device of Squeezebox and SageTV.
The SageTV server is a much better server and it shouldn't be that hard
to add SBS features to it.



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Re: [slim] Wireless networking problem, can any explain this to me...

2012-08-15 Thread autopilot

phycomp wrote: 
 Maybe try changing the wireless network channel?

Thanks, already did (1  11). But it would not work as wireless bridges
and repeaters need to be on the same channel as the router (as the
router can not use 2 channels at the same time.



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