Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?
RonM wrote: Buy. It's only money Thanks Ron, I followed your advice and ordered my spare Touch, although I'm still thinking it's quite paranoid to buy a Touch as a spare. :-) If my Touch in use runs as long as the only CD player I ever bought (a Denon, bought 25 years ago and used daily until the Touch came along), then I will probably never need to make use of the spare. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB Classic ( sentral third of the screen brighter the left/right) ?
Hi all ! I have 2 sb classic for many years ( 6 or 7) which have been worked flawlessly all this time. Couple of days ago, I paid attention, that on one of them a cehtral third on the screen is a little brighter then left and right thirds ( I am not sure it's exactly thirds , look like one). It doesn't bother me , but I wonder if it's a sign that screen might die soon. Has anybody else expereinced similar problem ? Is it software/hardware related ? Has anybody managed to get spare screen and change it ( I hope it will not come to it though) sl789's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Return to Slimdevices??
Logitech did not invent SB, Slimdevices did it, didn't it? may be possible some company like slimdevices buy squeezeboxes line or mysqueezebox? maybe not, if logitech keep on producing something like UE smart radiobut i keep on dreaming! nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
Well, my father lives in Toronto, if that can help :) In anycase, I was in the opposite situation: I have a wired SB2 in my living room setup and it's the only model that I can easily fit in my cabinet. Considering Logitech quitting on us, I was afraid that once mine broke... I wouldn't have a replacement. It's funny the low, low prices that the guy has sold them before for. gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
nervoteso wrote: Logitech did not invent SB, Slimdevices did it, didn't it? may be possible some company like slimdevices buy squeezeboxes line or mysqueezebox? maybe not, if logitech keep on producing something like UE smart radiobut i keep on dreaming! If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. However, I doubt it will happen through someone buying anything from Logitech, especially since I don't think Logitech have anything of value which they can or are willing to sell. Most of the source code, both in firmware and server is still used in the UE Smart Radio product, it's just that it has been modified a bit. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
erland wrote: If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. However, I doubt it will happen through someone buying anything from Logitech, especially since I don't think Logitech have anything of value which they can or are willing to sell. Most of the source code, both in firmware and server is still used in the UE Smart Radio product, it's just that it has been modified a bit. just a curiosity: where are people from slimdevices now? are they in logitech o somewhere? nervoteso's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30262 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
nervoteso wrote: just a curiosity: where are people from slimdevices now? are they in logitech o somewhere? Some are within Logitech in other departments, some are within Logitech and still working with Squeezebox or UE Smart Radio and some have moved on and works for other companies. Even though I know where a few of them are I prefer not to post that kind of personal information in a public forum for privacy reasons. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
Ya know the funny thing (at least from my perspective)? Around 6 years or so ago I bought a 2nd SB2 right after Logitech acquired Slim Devices. My thinking was that I couldn't be sure that they would keep the line alive, or wouldn't dumb it down to some lowest common denominator. It took longer for that to happen than I expected, and in the meantime Logitech's hardware beta program greatly expanded the number of SBs in my house. So I probably shouldn't complain about the latest developments. But I do. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB Classic ( sentral third of the screen brighter the left/right) ?
Any chance the dimmer part of the screen is the most used area of the screen? EQ meter? Most common text? Clock in standby? If yes, then it is likely just wearing faster than the less used portions of the screen. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
erland wrote: If there is a need and a market, someone will eventually fill the hole. Exactly! Very well put! It is for this reason I've chosen not to get too upset about the situation. And I agree that there isn't anything Logitech would be willing to sell at this point since UER contains lots of the SB code. maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
They didn't even want to sell when they had decided to shut down the product line a few years ago. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
autopilot wrote: Putting the fact that we can still run our hardware in the short term aside for now; To me, it seems like the only real alternative solution is Sonos. Opinions? What would you buy now and why? My solution is to go the Airport Express/iPeng route in conjunction with LMS. I want to stay with an LMS setup because I like the BCC iPlayer plugin, and there is no iPlayer iOS app that works in the US currently. Using the iPeng playback feature, in conjunction with Airplay and the Airport express I get to keep the iPlayer functionality and also get access to all of the iOS apps that support airplay but that don't have LMS plug in support. I have been running this for a couple of weeks now and so far I like it as it seems to me to be the best of all worlds for the type of listening I do. formula155's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10467 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
pippin wrote: They didn't even want to sell when they had decided to shut down the product line a few years ago. I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts and probably depress share price (e.g. destruction of shareholder value). Keeping the prodct line in house and letting it diminish over a longer period would not have such a loss. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
gorman wrote: Well, my father lives in Toronto, if that can help :) In anycase, I was in the opposite situation: I have a wired SB2 in my living room setup and it's the only model that I can easily fit in my cabinet. Considering Logitech quitting on us, I was afraid that once mine broke... I wouldn't have a replacement. It's funny the low, low prices that the guy has sold them before for. I did correspond with the vendor, and it was indeed a case of the shop having acquired several some years ago, and still had them in inventory, albeit in a cupboard. I'm sure from their point of view any sale is a good sale. r. RonM's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17029 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I've been running J River on a dead silent Atom based PC. JRemote on the iPad to control it. Really happy with the results, only missing feature for me is playlist management from JRemote. A limitation of the J River web service apparently. Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
I am ebaying a Squeezebox 2 (version w/o WiFi) here if anyone is interested. Used but in fine shape and works perfectly: http://r.ebay.com/SMvI4O mattfusf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
mattfusf wrote: I am ebaying a Squeezebox 2 (version w/o WiFi) here if anyone is interested. Used but in fine shape and works perfectly: http://r.ebay.com/SMvI4O A pic of the bottom of the SB2 would be nice so that we can verify it's an SB2 rather than an SB1. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Espn 1050
They moved to FM...98.7 in New York fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Espn 1050
ESPN 1050 plays for me on my SB Radio, stream data says 32k mp3, but it is hit miss, seems to stop frequently, or have trouble starting. Might be as simple as their servers only allow xx number of connections and it won't play when that number is exceeded? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96452 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
bpa wrote: I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts and probably depress share price (e.g. destruction of shareholder value). Keeping the prodct line in house and letting it diminish over a longer period would not have such a loss. Could the continuation as UER be a simple matter of sustaining the fair value of the asset ? I'm not exactly clear as to when fair valuation applies. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB Classic ( sentral third of the screen brighter the left/right) ?
On my SB2, I saw uneven screen wear after a couple of years (though mine was dimmer in the middle due to a lot of displaying the time when in standby). I now use the FuzzyTime plugin on my SB Classics to reduce the possibility of this uneven wear. bwaldron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96465 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
Jeff Flowerday wrote: I've been running J River on a dead silent Atom based PC. JRemote on the iPad to control it. Really happy with the results, only missing feature for me is playlist management from JRemote. A limitation of the J River web service apparently. I love and have used JRiver for many years. For me, the key missing feature is the lack of support for third-party services (I mainly use TuneIn and SiriusXM). bwaldron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
epoch1970 wrote: Could the continuation as UER be a simple matter of sustaining the fair value of the asset ? I'm not exactly clear as to when fair valuation applies. When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash, inventory, buildings. The premium that one pays over book value is called goodwill, this is the buyer's estimation of what they percieve to be the extra value of, (or what they are prepared to pay for), all the intangible assets such as key personnel, brand names, trade marks, patents and customer loyalty. Book value is like hardware (any accountant can add it up), whereas goodwill is more like vaporware (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). In the deal, the acquirer effectively reduces the amount of cash (retained earnings) on its balance sheet by the amount of money it paid to the prior owner, but it compensates this by adding back both the book value and goodwill of the acquired company; these three (cash-, book value+, goodwill+) all cancel out, but they appear under different headings in the balance sheet. The difficulty is that the goodwill amount is really a virtual number not reflecting any hard assets, and investors, lenders and regulators tend to penalize companies having too high a proportion of goodwill on their books. Therefore companies are obliged to depreciate it (write it off) over a period of time. But this depreciation has a negative impact on real profits, so companies do the depreciation but try to stretch out the process as long as (legally) possible. Now the crux of the matter is, if you buy a company and pay a high amount of goodwill, and then sell it again later with a low amount of goodwill, then you are obliged to immediately write off the missing goodwill from your books. This cuts immediately your profit in that fiscal year by the same amount. And no investor likes that. I don't know if Logitech bought Slim Devices with an over- optimistically high amount of goodwill (but I suppose so). In that case, rather than re-selling their acquistion and being forced potentially to take an immediate hard profit hit, the management may prefer not to re-sell the acquistion, and thus not to take a hard profit hit. That way you avoid upsetting your investors. Although, probably 20% of the investors are canny enough to see that the two options (re-sell and take the hit, or don't re-sell and put off the hit) are essentially the same. But the difference is that in one case you upset 100% of the investors, whereas in the other one you only upset the 20% who are canny... AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
AndrewFG wrote: When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash, inventory, buildings. The premium that one pays over book value is called goodwill, this is the buyer's estimation of what they percieve to be the extra value of, (or what they are prepared to pay for), all the intangible assets such as key personnel, brand names, trade marks, patents and customer loyalty. Book value is like hardware (any accountant can add it up), whereas goodwill is more like vaporware (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). In the deal, the acquirer effectively reduces the amount of cash (retained earnings) on its balance sheet by the amount of money it paid to the prior owner, but it compensates this by adding back both the book value and goodwill of the acquired company; these three (cash-, book value+, goodwill+) all cancel out, but they appear under different headings in the balance sheet. The difficulty is that the goodwill amount is really a virtual number not reflecting any hard assets, and investors, lenders and regulators tend to penalize companies having too high a proportion of goodwill on their books. Therefore companies are obliged to depreciate it (write it off) over a period of time. But this depreciation has a negative impact on real profits, so companies do the depreciation but try to stretch out the process as long as (legally) possible. Now the crux of the matter is, if you buy a company and pay a high amount of goodwill, and then sell it again later with a low amount of goodwill, then you are obliged to immediately write off the missing goodwill from your books. This cuts immediately your profit in that fiscal year by the same amount. And no investor likes that. I don't know if Logitech bought Slim Devices with an over- optimistically high amount of goodwill (but I suppose so). In that case, rather than re-selling their acquisition and being forced potentially to take an immediate hard profit hit, the management may prefer not to re-sell the acquisition, and thus not to take a hard profit hit. That way you avoid upsetting your investors. Although, probably 20% of the investors are canny enough to see that the two options (re-sell and take the hit, or don't re-sell and put off the hit) are essentially the same. But the difference is that in one case you upset 100% of the investors, whereas in the other one you only upset the 20% who are canny... But can Logitech make a profit with the UER alone? If they don't they would lose less if they sell what they can sell? signor_rossi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2
azinck3 wrote: A pic of the bottom of the SB2 would be nice so that we can verify it's an SB2 rather than an SB1. Its a SB2 :-) I've added a photo of the bottom of the device to the auction page. mattfusf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96399 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
I'm looking into the PS Audio Perfect Wave DacII plus the bridge option. I don't know what the software interface is like, but you can use an iPad to control the streaming. sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
bluegaspode wrote: Anyone who didn't upgrade their phones into a Squeezebox might be interested in the fact that *This weekend SqueezePlayer is available at a 50% discount*!!! I don't know how fast the prices update, but you should be able to get it for 1,99 (2,49$) now until Monday. Together with Orange Squeeze this bundle makes up a great stand-alone Squeezebox on your Android device. You won't get a new Squeezebox cheaper anywhere else ;) Spread the word and enjoy your music! Darn! I missed it! TimT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
AndrewFG wrote: When one acquires a company they usually pay more than book value, this being the value of tangible assets like cash, inventory, buildings. The premium that one pays over book value is called goodwill, this is the buyer's estimation of what they percieve to be the extra value of, (or what they are prepared to pay for), all the intangible assets such as key personnel, brand names, trade marks, patents and customer loyalty. Book value is like hardware (any accountant can add it up), whereas goodwill is more like vaporware (beauty is in the eye of the beholder). In the deal, the acquirer effectively reduces the amount of cash (retained earnings) on its balance sheet by the amount of money it paid to the prior owner, but it compensates this by adding back both the book value and goodwill of the acquired company; these three (cash-, book value+, goodwill+) all cancel out, but they appear under different headings in the balance sheet. The difficulty is that the goodwill amount is really a virtual number not reflecting any hard assets, and investors, lenders and regulators tend to penalize companies having too high a proportion of goodwill on their books. Therefore companies are obliged to depreciate it (write it off) over a period of time. But this depreciation has a negative impact on real profits, so companies do the depreciation but try to stretch out the process as long as (legally) possible. Now the crux of the matter is, if you buy a company and pay a high amount of goodwill, and then sell it again later with a low amount of goodwill, then you are obliged to immediately write off the missing goodwill from your books. This cuts immediately your profit in that fiscal year by the same amount. And no investor likes that. I don't know if Logitech bought Slim Devices with an over- optimistically high amount of goodwill (but I suppose so). In that case, rather than re-selling their acquisition and being forced potentially to take an immediate hard profit hit, the management may prefer not to re-sell the acquisition, and thus not to take a hard profit hit. That way you avoid upsetting your investors. Although, probably 20% of the investors are canny enough to see that the two options (re-sell and take the hit, or don't re-sell and put off the hit) are essentially the same. But the difference is that in one case you upset 100% of the investors, whereas in the other one you only upset the 20% who are canny... Yes ,but is the squeezebox department noticeable at all when compared to the rest of Logitech, would any investor or current owner notice at all or actually even know of the existence ofthis product line :) the loss is probably more of internal prestige for the ones that did this acquisition or the ones that currently run's it ;) Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?
reinholdk wrote: Thanks Ron, I followed your advice and ordered my spare Touch, although I'm still thinking it's quite paranoid to buy a Touch as a spare. :-) If my Touch in use runs as long as the only CD player I ever bought (a Denon, bought 25 years ago and used daily until the Touch came along), then I will probably never need to make use of the spare. I don't think you get 25 years due to the display , maybe if one opens it up and disconnects the dead display :) using a phone or pad for UI It's a cellphone'ish kind of display and that kind of longivety is not in that kind of product, but sure the usefull,life span is probably prolonged if ones uses blank screensaver as much as possible ,but it kinda takes out some of the fun. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
signor_rossi wrote: But can Logitech make a profit with the UER alone? If they don't they would lose less if they sell what they can sell? Not necessarily. It depends on the math. Let's take the hypothesis that Slim Devices had (say) a book value of $100, and Logitech paid (say) $250 for it. If they would now sell it for only book value $100, then they would certainly get this $100 coming in, but they would still have to write off the $150 goodwill, thus putting them out of pocket in this fiscal year by -$50 ... AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
In the grand scope of Logitech, Slimdevices was a very, very small worm. Others may be able to erupt on why they even bought the company. The only logical reason was a stimulation by the Slim folks that would have resulted in cash. Innovation at that point was also very cheap for Logitech. My thinking is a lack of marketing of the Release Your Music at that point was not followed-through by making it easy for non-technical types. At this point, having everything available from anywhere has been accomplished without iShit, so I am happy. bfl banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
You people are whacked if you think Logitech is going to sell SqueezeBox (rights, intellectual property, etc..) to anyone. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
bpa wrote: I suspect the couldn't sell the product line because this would crystallise a big loss (e.g. sale price vs purchase price of Slimdevice) and would have had to be shown on accounts and probably depress share price (e.g. destruction of shareholder value). Keeping the prodct line in house and letting it diminish over a longer period would not have such a loss. More trivial. They probably simply didn't have a process for it. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mysqueezebox.com account name
Because is saw the note: Please note: if you change your account email address, you will be immediately logged out and required to reactivate your account. It looked like a pain, so if it doesn't matter, then i won't bother - so that is my question: does it really matter? Thanks, Roger rambo89's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57273 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96451 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out are: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? Could Slim Devices have manufactured anything beyond the SB3 and Transporter? Did they really need Logitech's money to make the other form factors? sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
sander wrote: 2 details I've been curious about and I don't know if they've come out are: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? I actually found a report from '06 that says they paid $20 million. I'd provide a link but I'm too lazy to go search for it again. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
sander wrote: How much did Logitech pay for Slim Devices? The press release is here: http://www.logitech.com/en-gb/172/2763 Which says: $20 million in cash plus a possible performance-based payment, tied to reaching certain future revenue targets. sander wrote: Could Slim Devices have manufactured anything beyond the SB3 and Transporter? Did they really need Logitech's money to make the other form factors? Hard to say since none of us know how bad the economics were, but my very personal suspicion is that they had a need for money and realized it wasn't possible for them to grow to the world wide market without a partner like Logitech, so it's unlikely that you would have found a Squeezebox in your local store without the acquisition and due to that it's also unlikely that their sales without Logitech would have been anywhere close to the number of units they have sold after being acquired by Logitech. However, all this is just guesses, none of us have access to the internal economical information so we can say for sure. Also, very few of us have the business experience to interpret the numbers even if we would have access to them. I suspect Logitech have earned back a significant part of the $20 million on the Squeezeboxes they have sold after the acquisition and I also think it would have been impossible for them to release UE Smart Radio with support for all streaming services it supports without the acquisition, so even if they decided to stop selling devices under the brand Squeezebox it doesn't necessarily mean that the acquisition was a failure, they are still using most of the software in the UE Smart Radio devices and also the hardware from the Squeezebox Radio which is almost identical to the UE Smart Radio hardware. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Return to Slimdevices??
+1 squeezeboxes appeared in at least 2 large nationwide retail store chains here in Sweden , I guess slimdevices would never had the organisation for that , my radio is for example bought in a store 1,5 km from my home . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96466 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
