Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Finding a software player or codec usually is not the problem for a hardware manufacturer. Licensing and patents are. This is less of an issue for open-source software players because you download and use them yourself as a user but a hardware vendor can't just ship these players, he would still have to get the licenses. Also, VLC is under GPL which means you can't integrate it with proprietary software. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Though I see the VLC library is moving to LGPL http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl.html andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Certainly glad to see another serious and experienced competitor uping the ante a bit, in both form and function. Sexy looking player too. That said, Olive One is definitely following more closely to the Sonos model. I looked into Olive and the (then) very similar Yamaha MisicCast system years ago prior to coming to SqueezeBox. Back then both were way over priced and very limited in features and customization. Looks like the Olive One is a nice step in the right direction. But she ain't no SqueezeBox. ;) My personal reservations: - don't need a player with built in amps (i.e. SB3 or Touch) - don't need another hard drive for my music collection (music must reside on the Olive HDD as additional hardware purchase, unless you want limited DLNA playback) - don't need a cloud service in place of my existing PC HDD, but nice to offer it indeed, being third party Google cloud to boot - price, I'd bet by release date the prices might be much higher (based on previous Olive pricing comparisons) - need clarification on playing same music on multiple players, likely is true Sync, but I'd like that confirmed - need clarification on the Miracast (whatever that is)? i.e. TV must support Miracast to utilize DLNA functions (pics, videos, music)? I think a smart move for Olive is to add an additional Touch like player where they take their existing player, remove the amps, and add the digital outs. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
andynormancx wrote: Though I see the VLC library is moving to LGPL http://www.videolan.org/press/lgpl.html Do you know more about the status of this? So far, the code is still under GPL, not LGPL and this decision was more than a year ago. I think _all_ developers who have ever contributed have to agree to this and this was already the problem why they had to pull it from the App Store. VideoLAN had approved the App but some developers did not. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
db122 wrote: I'm working on a solution for this. Thanks for your patience! Great! Thanks, db122. Now I will keep my piehole shut and wait. :-) slimhase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31958 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Another good audiophile alternative: iDevice (if you don't already own one - MANY already do - a 3rd gen iPod Tough can be had for little £££) iPeng! + the playback add on. One of the many digital dock / iPod USB enabled devices, or Airplay receiver. That'll give you all the lurvely Squeezebox functionality / brilliance + bit-perfect playback (just like the touch). So ye, not as dead as you might think! ;) ReValveiT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANN: Orange Squeeze 1.3.0 released!
slimhase wrote: Great! Thanks, db122. Now I will keep my piehole shut and wait. :-) Please, keep your piehole filled with pie. Tis the season. Are you using the preview builds? Any fix will make it's appearance there first. db122's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97467 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
I've just installed Squeezeplayer for Android on my Archos Home Connect (I know, useless name!) internet radio. Working without issues! Nice. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
castalla wrote: I've just installed Squeezeplayer for Android on my Archos Home Connect (I know, useless name!) internet radio. Working without issues! Nice! Do you listen using the speakers built into the Archos, or did you connect it to a more serious stereo amp and speakers? wus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57771 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
wus wrote: Nice! Do you listen using the speakers built into the Archos, or did you connect it to a more serious stereo amp and speakers? Just the internal speakers - used as a bedside radio. castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
There aren't that many decent digital iPod docks on the market. Best I have come across is an Onkyo DS A5 but its well pricey! d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] BBC Radio titles
Triode wrote: I'll ask the BBC about this again - last time I was told that RadioVis was the strategic solution, but there still doesn't seem to be any useful data there other than for Radio1 and 1Xtra. Also its not really parsable for now playing information. Thanks Triode. Fingers crossed. It's not exactly rocket science to add dynamic metadata to a stream... Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
That depends on what you consider well pricey. The Squeezebox Touch retailed around the £200 (UK) mark. The Onkyo can be got for £140. If you already own an iDevice you can add around a tenner for iPeng and the playback, and you're there for £150 - £50 less than a Touch (was). Plus you have the benefits of Airplay, and the vastly superior (to the Squeezebox version) Spotify IOS app that can be streamed over Airplay. Wouldn't mind giving the Onkyo a try myself. ReValveiT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
The more I read about the Olive One on their website the more appealing it is looking. I can see myself getting one next year. The blurb says that that all you need to do to log on to your home wi-fi network is press a single button with no WEP/password activation required. That could be a game changer if true as I'm sure a lot of people are put off buying this sort of product because the idea of fiddling around with setting up a network scares them. It's also made of aluminium glass which is better than plastic! Olive specialise in network music players so hopefully this will be a great product. Regards, Nick Nick_G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38427 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Have an iPod Touch and iPhone 4S with iPeng + Playback on both. The Touch is second gen so a bit limited. I regularly use the iPhone as a remote player and stream from my home system when in hotels etc but to if I had a 3rd gen Touch then I would experiment with that as a player using initially a Cambridge Audio analog dock and use the iPhone as the controller which is what it is generally used for. At present I don't need another player but if I did I would consider the following (no particular order):- A Raspberry Pi An iDevice with Onkyo dock (because it has both digital and analog output) A netbook running Squeezeplay and USB DAC An eBay SB3 or Touch There are plenty of options that will allow me loads of years worth of listening. d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
d6jg wrote: Have an iPod Touch and iPhone 4S with iPeng + Playback on both. The Touch is second gen so a bit limited. I regularly use the iPhone as a remote player and stream from my home system when in hotels etc but to if I had a 3rd gen Touch then I would experiment with that as a player using initially a Cambridge Audio analog dock and use the iPhone as the controller which is what it is generally used for. At present I don't need another player but if I did I would consider the following (no particular order):- A Raspberry Pi An iDevice with Onkyo dock (because it has both digital and analog output) A netbook running Squeezeplay and USB DAC An eBay SB3 or Touch There are plenty of options that will allow me loads of years worth of listening. Yep, all sounds good to me! Having sold my Touches (financial reasons) I'm now looking into new ways to stream. I have an iPhone 4 and iPad 3, but neither device comes anywhere near the SBT on sound quality (all devices analog out). My real choices are : PC running Squeezeplay into a good USB DAC, or, iDevice running iPeng into a good digital DOCK. Either way I want to stay in the Squeezebox ecosystem mainly because iPeng is so good. Currently playing CDs from my Sony BD player, which actually sounds surprisingly good! If only it had a Squeezeplay type app, I'd probably stick with it! ReValveiT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
Oh dear ... spoke to soon Now I can't get any sound out of the damn thing on internet radio streams - it did work previously! Local music library plays. Help! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
For you the Onkyo dock would be a good move as its also an Airplay adapter. A rare beast. You could use the ipad as a player either docked (is ipad3 30 pin?) or via airplay - I assume you have some kind of hifi from your comments. d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
castalla wrote: Oh dear ... spoke to soon Now I can't get any sound out of the damn thing on internet radio streams - it did work previously! Local music library plays. Help! Hmmm seems it'll play only mp3 formats - no AAC ??? castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
I've heard good things about using an iDevice with iPeng and the Pure i-20 dock ( $100) which serves as both a DAC with analog outs or using its digital output to your own DAC -- both options better than just using the iDevice headphone output. It would seem that Logitech abandoning the manufacture of Squeezeboxen is of far less concern than that of ongoing dev and support of LMS. The question I have is whether LMS can ultimately be supported and improved upon by an open source community... Is there anything that would prohibit that? mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
mdconnelly wrote: I've heard good things about using an iDevice with iPeng and the Pure i-20 dock ( $100) which serves as both a DAC with analog outs or using its digital output to your own DAC -- both options better than just using the iDevice headphone output. It would seem that Logitech abandoning the manufacture of Squeezeboxen is of far less concern than that of ongoing dev and support of LMS. The question I have is whether LMS can ultimately be supported and improved upon by an open source community... Is there anything that would prohibit that? I don't think so. LMS *is* open-source. Most of the concern I've heard is from people who rely on mysqueezebox.com for functionality they care deeply about. The EOL announcement means the writing's on the wall (eventually) for mysqueezebox.com. azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
castalla wrote: Hmmm seems it'll play only mp3 formats - no AAC ??? Hi castalla, as written per mail: SqueezePlayer indeed does only support mp3 and FLAC natively. BUT: it depends on your Squeezebox-Server, whether it supports more formats, as the Squeezebox-Server is able to transcode almost everything to FLAC and/or mp3, which is why most users don't need to care for the actual file format. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Nick_G wrote: The more I read about the Olive One on their website the more appealing it is looking. I can see myself getting one next year. The blurb says that that all you need to do to log on to your home wi-fi network is press a single button with no WEP/password activation required. That could be a game changer if true as I'm sure a lot of people are put off buying this sort of product because the idea of fiddling around with setting up a network scares them. It's also made of aluminium glass which is better than plastic! That probably just means it has WPS compatibility which is great but it's hardly a killer feature as I've always found it more fiddly than passwords (WPA, WEP etc). I guess if it is useful to some that's great, these types of devices should be as get on a network as a desktop printer. smiggs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35768 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
mdconnelly wrote: It would seem that Logitech abandoning the manufacture of Squeezeboxen is of far less concern than that of ongoing dev and support of LMS. The question I have is whether LMS can ultimately be supported and improved upon by an open source community... Is there anything that would prohibit that? It is completely dead, they have the UE line. If they produce a UE Touch to go along with the UE Radio some folks would be happy? I guess most will miss all the 3rd party apps? It would be nice if Logitech would let us know if they plan on a UE Touch? -Bob Bob bobm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
ReValveiT wrote: Another good audiophile alternative: iDevice (if you don't already own one - MANY already do - a 3rd gen iPod Touch can be had for little £££) iPeng! + the playback add on. One of the many digital dock / iPod USB enabled devices, or Airplay receiver. That'll give you all the lurvely Squeezebox functionality / brilliance + bit-perfect playback (just like the Touch). So ye, not as dead as you might think! ;) Did you mean? That'll give you all the lurvely Squeezebox functionality - (brilliance + bit-perfect playback (just like the Touch)). I though bit-perfect was not confirmed on an iDevice? Thanks Bob bobm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...
bluegaspode wrote: Hi castalla, as written per mail: SqueezePlayer indeed does only support mp3 and FLAC natively. BUT: it depends on your Squeezebox-Server, whether it supports more formats, as the Squeezebox-Server is able to transcode almost everything to FLAC and/or mp3, which is why most users don't need to care for the actual file format. This is strange ... after I restarted LMS (as it had locked up), the Archos is now playing a BBC aac stream (I guess it's now being transcoded to flac). I'll play around over the w/end to see how it goes! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87364 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
Bit perfect works with iPeng but depending on the dock hardware you use, you might have to set the volume to 100% It's also limited to a maximum of 48kHz/24bit except on iPad when using the camera connection kit in which case you can go up to 96/24. A few people have done the full round trip bit comparison, it does indeed work. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
pippin wrote: Bit perfect works with iPeng but depending on the dock hardware you use, you might have to set the volume to 100% It's also limited to a maximum of 48kHz/24bit except on iPad when using the camera connection kit in which case you can go up to 96/24. A few people have done the full round trip bit comparison, it does indeed work. Thank you, good information. -Bob bobm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19401 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
Looks like they are trying to raise capital, too. $200k, which doesn't seem like much to me. Cool concept and design. I'm interested. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech abandoning Squeezebox?
azinck3 wrote: LMS *is* open-source. This is good news in the storm. djfake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8111 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97532 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
smiggs wrote: That probably just means it has WPS compatibility which is great but it's hardly a killer feature as I've always found it more fiddly than passwords (WPA, WEP etc). I guess if it is useful to some that's great, these types of devices should be as get on a network as a desktop printer. And the router must have it to . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is Olive One the answer?
pippin wrote: Do you know more about the status of this? So far, the code is still under GPL, not LGPL and this decision was more than a year ago. I think _all_ developers who have ever contributed have to agree to this and this was already the problem why they had to pull it from the App Store. VideoLAN had approved the App but some developers did not. I'm afraid not. I just remembered the seeing announcement somewhere and so Googled for it when I read this thread. andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97539 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
