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Mnyb wrote: The cassete things is nice :) thats cool ,but will everyone get that ? No, I didn't until someone called it cassette erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I received the following examples back from Bronwyn incorporating changes suggested by feedback received. community in blue. [image: http://www.communitysqueeze.org/Bluecommu.jpg] community in blue and moved above squeeze. [image: http://www.communitysqueeze.org/MoveBluCommu.jpg] community in red and moved above squeeze. [image: http://www.communitysqueeze.org/MoveCommu.jpg] JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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didjean wrote: I quite like the cassette thing. It is just a funny reference to the music devices evolution. Every time I look at that cassette logo, I think I'm looking at an advert for a kiddies tape recorder manufactured by Fisher Price. Or maybe I just don't get it, being the wrong side of 40, rather than a lovestruck teenager. ;) [image: http://www.fisher-price.com/en_GB/Images/landing-page-fp-logo_tcm169-11731_tcm174-11731.png] JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JackOfAll wrote: Or maybe I just don't get it, being the wrong side of 40, rather than a lovestruck teenager. ;) Maybe even, a lovestruck teenager 40 years ago:-) For me, if the desire is to evoke thoughts of historical music players, then the HMV type image is much more attractive than that of the cassette. Vinyl tends to promote a wistful smile; the thought of cassettes brings to my mind magnetic tape getting jammed in the player, and of a short lived technology. kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
ajkidle wrote: . I'm looking for something low power that I can tuck away in a closet somewhere. It just needs to be able to run Vortexbox, have gigabit ethernet, and 2 hard drive bays minimum (4 preferred.) Oh, and it needs to support RAID 1. Or at least have a PCI slot so I can add a controller card. Used laptop running VortexBox + USB HDD's toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
Hi, In article ajkidle.5sj...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com, ajkidleajkidle.5sj...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: I've been running my Vortexbox on a headless Atom based MSI Nettop 100 box for the past few years, and recently have gotten the itch to protect my data by setting up a RAID 1 configuration. The on-board controller on the MSI doesn't seem to support this, and there are no expansion slots available for adding a 3rd party card, so I'm investigating new hardware. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something low power that I can tuck away in a closet somewhere. It just needs to be able to run Vortexbox, have gigabit ethernet, and 2 hard drive bays minimum (4 preferred.) Oh, and it needs to support RAID 1. Or at least have a PCI slot so I can add a controller card. Isn't VortexBox linux based? If so, presumably you can so Software RAID? It might be as easy to build your own system based around an ITX motherboard. There are a number of ITX cases specifically aimed at NAS use. Where in the world are you? I'm in the UK and have used http://www.linitx.com to buy components for a number of small Atom based systems in the past. They're generally very helpful, support over IRC is excellent for putting a system spec together. Andy ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
The image of the cassette is off course a reference to music and music devices lost in time. It's a device that revolutionised the way we listened (and recorded) audio at home just like the Slimdevices did for music files. For me personally it's nostalgia to think of the days i spend recording radio on cassettes and making my own mix tapes for friends, in a way like i use my squeezeboxes to play radio streams and compose playlists. The hearts are symbolic for the communities love toward a product that's been taken away from us and the passion for music we all share. The orange colour works well with dark colours like black and grey when using in hardware enclosure and software, but also works good on white. It's also the inverted colour of the original squeezebox teal. The orange is fitting for the hearts as well, red would be a bit much in my opinion. You can also squeeze an orange, a joke that's been used as the name for an android squeezebox remote Orange Squeeze. The shapes and aesthetics are inspired by the original squeezebox hardware and software. The cassette is a bit the shape of the squeezebox touch, the rounded corners are similar to the shapes of all the squeezebox hardware and also the squeeze server interface. The typeface is also rounded and matching the thickness of the logo's lines and shapes. The design language can be translated to all sorts of uses like icons, buttons, interfaces, hardware and more to make it 1 matching and recognisable concept. The total image is friendly like the squeeze ecosystem is to it's users (user friendly, accessible) and the community towards it's new product. Making it look like a device that is not to hacker but usable for the whole family. In a way the look and feel is about listening to the music you love in an easy way. 14630 +---+ |Filename: squeezeOS-mockup004.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14630| +---+ Jubarend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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OK, that kind of makes a bit more sense to me now. (Which might be me anyway, maybe everyone else got it without any explanation.) And I think that using orange and black as the primary 2 colors works, when you put it in context. (My initial reaction to the orange was that I didn't like it.) JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
I'm convinced! castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sorry to spoil but I really don't like that cassette logo. This is sooo last millennium. What should the message be? We are so retro we don't just not accept the death of that darn old Squeezebox thingy, we would wish we even could get cassettes back? In this context I believe it's not a good idea. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
aubuti wrote: RAID 1 only protects your data from one very narrow risk, and that is HDD failure. It's useless for other risks such as data corruption or deletion because of software or user error (RAID 1 just mirrors that to the other disk), zapped HDDs because of power surges, and other common risks such as fire and theft. If you really want to protect your data, you need a separate backup drive. Or multiple separate backup drives. It/they could be an external USB drives or network drives. And you should store at least one copy in a different location, such as your workplace or a friend's or relative's place. +1, RAID is almost worthless in the context of media backup (unless you're running a business that uses this info and you need instant data access if there is a data failure). RAID is *not* a backup plan. Almost any low power modern computer will run Vortexbox. They work best with internal HD, but with some command line knowledge one can use external HDDs, etc. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
pippin wrote: Sorry to spoil but I really don't like that cassette logo. This is sooo last millennium. Yep, and just to be clear, I get what the idea is behind it now, (the cassette), but don't like it one bit. Orange and black colour schemes, I'm warming to. JackOfAll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3069 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I also don't like the cassette logo too much, but I must admit that it makes a very recognizable logo, even without text. If we could find another item instead of the cassette... reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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reinholdk wrote: I also don't like the cassette logo too much, but I must admit that it makes a very recognizable logo, even without text. If we could find another item instead of the cassette... If the logo was based on a number of images like the stylised cassette, but including, say, CD, Radio and Vinyl, would that work? Would it be obvious that this device represents the convergence of all these devices? chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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chill wrote: If the logo was based on a number of images like the stylised cassette, but including, say, CD, Radio and Vinyl, would that work? Would it be obvious that this device represents the convergence of all these devices? No, I don't think it would work :) reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
A small power led is a good idea. If some users want something facier then perhaps buy one of these http://shop.thingm.com/blink1/ and put it on a USB cable and add some s/w support. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Mnyb wrote: The whole point with a power only led is that it is not software dependent , if it where software dependent it would provide no info about what's dead supply or device ? Agreed. Some things need to function independently of the software. I dislike software-controlled power buttons for instance - if the software crashes you have to disconnect the power source, or worse, wait for the battery to die! chill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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OK, let's make it an 8-track... 14631 +---+ |Filename: 8track.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14631| +---+ simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Jubarend wrote: In a way the look and feel is about listening to the music you love in an easy way All very well sorted IMHO. I still don't like the cassette and would go with a rectangle w/ rounded edges and a single heart. Also, I think the font face works better with small letters than large ones. In the 1st images you posted I think the larger text, on white background, doesn't work as well as the smaller text on black bg. I like the color(s) fine, and I suppose John S. can find this design actionable if he wants to perform a bit of PCB art :) Details, as you see. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
bpa wrote: A small power led is a good idea. If some users want something facier then perhaps buy one of these http://shop.thingm.com/blink1/ and put it on a USB cable and add some s/w support. +1. An array of USB ports is good for expansion, and I would well see some home automation relays or leds or Vu-meter or fancy audio outs be located in their own box connected via USB. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JackOfAll wrote: Yep, and just to be clear, I get what the idea is behind it now, (the cassette), but don't like it one bit. Orange and black colour schemes, I'm warming to. +1. Avoid the cassette, please. Even a simple (black) box would be better. Guido F. guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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A bit off topic, I wonder how Custom Clock applet with the following cassette style with turning wheels is going to look on a 1080p TV screen: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/uploads/9/9f/CustomClock_Cassette.png :-) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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If you're paying homage, in spirit, should the imagery lean towards an 'accordion' (http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/lenm/lenm1211/lenm121100121/16552952-mascot-illustration-of-an-accordion-pressing-the-keys-of-its-keyboard.jpg) or concertina? I also was reminded of a child's toy when I saw the hearts. MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Jubarend wrote: The image of the cassette is off course a reference to music and music devices lost in time. It's a device that revolutionised the way we listened (and recorded) audio at home snip Very well articulated explanation for the thinking behind the design. The rationale sounds great, I like the color scheme, and I'm ambivalent about the cassette shape, but the hearts are way (way!) too cutesy for my tastes. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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aubuti wrote: Very well articulated explanation for the thinking behind the design. The rationale sounds great, I like the color scheme, and I'm ambivalent about the cassette shape, but the hearts are way (way!) too cutesy for my tastes. A bit like my first Sony google that for pics if you managed to forgot those . Well a cute little heart *could* possibly do if the rest of the machine is a black rectangular box with sharp corners no rounded edges maybe even recessed front and back by some millimetres . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
OK, so what I'm going to do for Gen1 is nothing on the front panel, a green led on the back that is a real power led, it is directly across the incoming power feed. On the back I'll also put a small RGB led connected to 3 pwm outputs of the processor, that way the color and intensity is fully under software control. The control for these is available under sysfs so any program including an applet under jivelite can control it. By default the led will be off, it will only go on when some software does something to it. This will let anybody who wants to play with it do so to their hearts content. During phase one we can play with it and find out if there is any use for it and determine if it needs to be on Gen2. The Ethernet jack has the fairly standard gigabit two leds, one of which is dual color. The brightness is going to be the same as on the wandboard. (I'm just using the wandboard schematic for this) So any of you that already have a wandboard can look at the Ethernet leds and see if the brightness is what you want. If feedback gets in in time I can change the leds for Gen1. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually like Johns idea of a pure power LED on the back and a separate RGB LED on the back under software control. I have nothing but Duets and appreciate the LED on the front. This might be because I've reviewed and understand what the different meanings of Duet LED colors and brightness indicate and have found them useful when I had to debug a receiver on one occasion. w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: OK, so what I'm going to do for Gen1 is nothing on the front panel, a green led on the back that is a real power led, it is directly across the incoming power feed. On the back I'll also put a small RGB led connected to 3 pwm outputs of the processor, that way the color and intensity is fully under software control. The control for these is available under sysfs so any program including an applet under jivelite can control it. By default the led will be off, it will only go on when some software does something to it. This will let anybody who wants to play with it do so to their hearts content. During phase one we can play with it and find out if there is any use for it and determine if it needs to be on Gen2. The Ethernet jack has the fairly standard gigabit two leds, one of which is dual color. The brightness is going to be the same as on the wandboard. (I'm just using the wandboard schematic for this) So any of you that already have a wandboard can look at the Ethernet leds and see if the brightness is what you want. If feedback gets in in time I can change the leds for Gen1. John S. Sounds like an excellent plan to me. Guido F. guidof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40448 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
w3wilkes wrote: I know I'm in the minority here, but I actually like Johns idea of a pure power LED on the back and a separate RGB LED on the back under software control. I have nothing but Duets and appreciate the LED on the front. This might be because I've reviewed and understand what the different meanings of Duet LED colors and brightness indicate and have found them useful when I had to debug a receiver on one occasion. You will get many more options for debugging - ssh, www, hdmi ui etc. No need to rely on a single led to know what it is up to! Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
JohnSwenson wrote: OK, so what I'm going to do for Gen1 is nothing on the front panel, a green led on the back that is a real power led, it is directly across the incoming power feed. On the back I'll also put a small RGB led connected to 3 pwm outputs of the processor, that way the color and intensity is fully under software control. The control for these is available under sysfs so any program including an applet under jivelite can control it. By default the led will be off, it will only go on when some software does something to it. This will let anybody who wants to play with it do so to their hearts content. During phase one we can play with it and find out if there is any use for it and determine if it needs to be on Gen2. The Ethernet jack has the fairly standard gigabit two leds, one of which is dual color. The brightness is going to be the same as on the wandboard. (I'm just using the wandboard schematic for this) So any of you that already have a wandboard can look at the Ethernet leds and see if the brightness is what you want. If feedback gets in in time I can change the leds for Gen1. John S. A good plan , the tricolour led could be developed by someone else to do something usefull. what comes to mind is low level stuff that are not easy to deduce by the web user interface . OS is booted without problems all necessary software is running I'm correctly conected to the network after that the web UI should be able tell if it can find servers or if it is playing something etc. Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] LMS Synology Issue Please help - 6 days to scan!
Any ideas - been without any SB radios and touch for 3 weeks. Have all my music on Synology NAS but now when I run LMS it takes forever, moves very slowly and cannot even display progress during scan. I stopped it after 6 days but my SB are not playing any of my local music (although seem to see the albums). Logitech tell me its due to changes in Perl and offer me a 35% reduction off future purchases - not likely in my present state of mind. Synology been trying to help but still no answer. Have taken off LMS package and re installed but made no difference. This set up worked great for a year but now its hopeless. Please has anyone any ideas as close to throwing Touch through window - an action I now I will regret :( Cheers Tim tmb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98355 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
garym wrote: +1, RAID is almost worthless in the context of media backup (unless you're running a business that uses this info and you need instant data access if there is a data failure). RAID is *not* a backup plan. Almost any low power modern computer will run Vortexbox. They work best with internal HD, but with some command line knowledge one can use external HDDs, etc. What then *is* a backup plan? I'm not sure I understand this line of argument. If my HDD fails, I lose my FLAC library ... which I have spent countless hours ripping, tagging, etc. How is a secondary back-up drive a more robust solution than RAID 1? And although I understand the off-premise argument, I'm not interested in taking it that far. If my house burns down, I'll have bigger problems to worry about. ajkidle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
ajkidle wrote: I've been running my Vortexbox on a headless Atom based MSI Nettop 100 box for the past few years, and recently have gotten the itch to protect my data by setting up a RAID 1 configuration. The on-board controller on the MSI doesn't seem to support this, and there are no expansion slots available for adding a 3rd party card, so I'm investigating new hardware. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm looking for something low power that I can tuck away in a closet somewhere. It just needs to be able to run Vortexbox, have gigabit ethernet, and 2 hard drive bays minimum (4 preferred.) Oh, and it needs to support RAID 1. Or at least have a PCI slot so I can add a controller card. Assuming that you want a Raid 1 for HD failure (other pointed out that this is not a backup) I see that your box has 2 SATA controler and from the picture I can also see a pci expansion slot. If you could add an eSata controler (or maybe somehow hookup esata cable to existing controler ?), then you can add an external array box like this http://tiny.cc/r4dbuw. I have it hooked up to an older Aspire Nettop and is working fine, don't feel the need to replace. I'm running in a Raid 5, same hd failure protection but more space than Raid 1. 6TB. matka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
I recomed an external USB backup drive ,the main thing is that it is not powered and does not run all time but you back up regularly better to have 2 usb drives (if your really OCD) so that you can take one drive even weeks/months and the other one odd weeks/months if some corruption or tagging mistake have crept in you can take two steps back . I think Abuti clearly laid out why in his post in this tread as the data is immediately mirrored to the other drive you get the same corrupt data on both drives . So when you discovers the the files are rubbish they are equally rubbish on both drives . http://www.2brightsparks.com/resources/articles/RAID-is-not-a-backup-solution.html http://serverfault.com/questions/2888/why-is-raid-not-a-backup RAID is mostly a protection against downtime not data loss the server survives a disc failure , if you run a business with 24/7 uptime this is necessary but even if you do you still need an external backup , so why not just settle for the external backup in a home setting ? https://www.google.com/search?q=RAID+is+not+a+backup Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
I was reminded of a lady's front side (think Hooter's) logo when I saw the two orange hearts. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Vortexbox NAS hardware recommendations?
ajkidle wrote: What then *is* a backup plan? I'm not sure I understand this line of argument. If my HDD fails, I lose my FLAC library ... which I have spent countless hours ripping, tagging, etc. How is a secondary back-up drive a more robust solution than RAID 1? And although I understand the off-premise argument, I'm not interested in taking it that far. If my house burns down, I'll have bigger problems to worry about. RAID 1 is fine for protecting against HDD failure, which will eventually happen. RAID 1 is also good for avoiding downtime, because if one HDD fails you can immediately switch over to the other. I fail to see the need for zero downtime for a home music library, but your mileage may vary. And RAID 1 is automatic, which is good for people who don't have a real system for regular backups. Beyond those few specific things, RAID 1 won't help you. A good backup plan protects against more than HDD failure. Because even though HDD failure is inevitable, a lot of other bad things can happen long before the HDD dies. A good backup plan protects against: - user error. Say you're doing a mass re-tagging operation and you screw up. Under RAID 1 that screw up is automatically replicated on the 2nd drive, and you're screwed. With a separate backup, you can recover from the mistake easily. - software error. For example, a bug in some program corrupts all your FLAC files. Again, RAID 1 immediately replicates that error to the 2nd drive. With a separate backup you can recover. - other hardware failure. Sometimes RAID controller cards go ka-blooey, and you end up with crap on all your RAID discs. - outside events, like power surges, fire, flood, theft, etc. Even if you use a separate external drive, don't leave it always plugged in to the computer, so that one power surge takes out the primary and the backup. If you don't want to store it off-premises, at least store it in another room. Same for theft - I had a student who was finishing his dissertation and was burglarized, and the thief took his laptop, the USB drive sitting next to the laptop, and threw in the computer bag (also sitting next to the laptop) and ran off, taking several months of the student's life as he reconstructed his work. Personally, I fail to see the logic of -If my house burns down, I'll have bigger problems to worry about.- If you value those countless hours of ripping and tagging, or if you have any other digital documents that are important to you (photos, videos, financial documents, emails) then what you're really saying is If my house burns down, I think I'll compound the problem by throwing my digital files on top of the flames. If you're the type who does infrequent backups, then RAID 1 _plus_ a separate backup disk kept in another location would be the best solution. The RAID 1 will take care of any changes in-between backups to the separate drive, and the separate drive will give you protection against the many things that RAID 1 does not protect against. I also use an MSI nettop 100 for my server, running Debian instead of Vortexbox -- it's a good little machine. For my backup purposes I regularly do backups from all the computers in the house including the music server to a NAS that I have tucked away in a closet in another part of the house. I also have an external USB drive that I keep at my workplace. Every month or so I bring the USB drive home and sync it with the NAS, and take it back to work the next day. It's not bulletproof -- but it offers me a good degree of protection and most of all, it is easy to maintain. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98350 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Good Squeezebox alternative?
Mnyb wrote: Maybe it is the notoriously hard to get gapless on dlna , that throw of developers of other platforms to not think about it ? Well, the founders are from Linn, as are a few others at the company, so that may well be the case. I must say, it is kind of cool spending time chatting with Martin Dalgleish about audio. -= Jim JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91090 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
I have access to CNC millers fully capable of routing aluminium (aluminum for you US guys :)) cases. Once you have the exact final board dimensions I can sort out a proto? Offer's there if it's wanted/needed. :) ReValveiT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wanted: a Few Can-do FLAC Testers / p2p Streamers
TheOctavist wrote: damnit any ideas?? ive tried with VLC foobar, and potplayer.. [image: http://i673.photobucket.com/albums/vv97/luxaeternaaudio/DAMN.gif] My most important idea is to get guide right (this time), which see above. Good hunting! Memford's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98327 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
pperse wrote: How about a more simplified logo like this? 14625 I like these a lot. They are very simple and could be easily used in a lot of different places. It would be nice to have a symbol that could be used as an icon for community projects. Not just stylized text. agillis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21140 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeeze Logo
pperse wrote: How about a more simplified logo like this? 14625 This. The colors and fonts harken back to the original Slim Devices logo. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98339 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Squeezebox: The Name Vote (Round 2)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 Question: What should we call this new device? - Open Music Box - Melodia - Phoenix - Harmonic - None of the above Can anyone say for certain that the word 'Squeeezebox' cannot be used for an open source project? With Logitech deep-sixing the entire product line, do they even care about the trademark any longer? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
