Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread Pascal Hibon

My Wandboard should arrive Thursday. Looking forward to that.

Two quick questions:
1.  Is it possible to have the Wandboard output audio on SPDIF and analog
at the same time?
2.  Will the JS board come with trigger outputs?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread JohnSwenson

Pascal Hibon wrote: 
 My Wandboard should arrive Thursday. Looking forward to that.
 
 Two quick questions:
 1.Is it possible to have the Wandboard output audio on SPDIF and analog
 at the same time?
 2.Will the JS board come with trigger outputs?

All outputs can physically be on at the same time, whether they can in
actuality is a mater of software. Currently I don't think squeezelite
supports more than one output, BUT it can certainly be done using the
ALSA duplication technique used in the Touch. 

Which board? The csp1 board will not have dedicated control outputs.
They can easily be added using USB. . By using USB you can get exactly
what you want with drivers that already exist. There are literally
hundreds of USB to control boxes out there at very inexpensive price
points that can cover just about anything anybody may want. 

The complement of IOs on CSP2 has not been decided. My personal
preference is to not put dedicated connectors on the player for things
that can easily be done with USB. It's just that I'm having this
nightmare that the back of this thing keeps on expanding larger and
larger as I put more and more dedicated connectors on the back. The
problem with that is nobody is going to want to use all of those
different things simultaneously, I would rather have a couple extra USB
jacks that can be used for many different things. 

I'm not trying to brush you off, I'm very carefully listening to all
such requests, I'm just trying to come up with solutions that can
accommodate as many different interfaces as possible with the least
amount of back panel space and and development effort. Part of the
problem here is that If I add connector A at 3.3V, microseconds later
someone else will want 5V, Then someone else will want 12V, then someone
else wants connector B, then 18V AC, then  By saying all such things
are covered by USB, I need one jack with one set of electronics driving
it, the user can choose amongst the hundreds of available USB to control
interfaces available to get exactly what they want. 

John S.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread Pascal Hibon

JohnSwenson wrote: 
 All outputs can physically be on at the same time, whether they can in
 actuality is a mater of software. Currently I don't think squeezelite
 supports more than one output, BUT it can certainly be done using the
 ALSA duplication technique used in the Touch. 
 
 Which board? The csp1 board will not have dedicated control outputs.
 They can easily be added using USB. . By using USB you can get exactly
 what you want with drivers that already exist. There are literally
 hundreds of USB to control boxes out there at very inexpensive price
 points that can cover just about anything anybody may want. 
 
 The complement of IOs on CSP2 has not been decided. My personal
 preference is to not put dedicated connectors on the player for things
 that can easily be done with USB. It's just that I'm having this
 nightmare that the back of this thing keeps on expanding larger and
 larger as I put more and more dedicated connectors on the back. The
 problem with that is nobody is going to want to use all of those
 different things simultaneously, I would rather have a couple extra USB
 jacks that can be used for many different things. 
 
 I'm not trying to brush you off, I'm very carefully listening to all
 such requests, I'm just trying to come up with solutions that can
 accommodate as many different interfaces as possible with the least
 amount of back panel space and and development effort. Part of the
 problem here is that If I add connector A at 3.3V, microseconds later
 someone else will want 5V, Then someone else will want 12V, then someone
 else wants connector B, then 18V AC, then  By saying all such things
 are covered by USB, I need one jack with one set of electronics driving
 it, the user can choose amongst the hundreds of available USB to control
 interfaces available to get exactly what they want. 
 
 John S.

Thanks for the clarification John. I understand it is difficult to
address everyone’s whishes and dreams in such projects. 
I’ll soon have the possibility to play with the wandboard myself. I’m a
total Linux noob but I see this as an opportunity to get me more
familiarized with it.  

Maybe a thought: I guess we could divide the target audience of this
project into two larger groups. A first group who wants a single box
with a high quality internal DAC. A second group would want a box with
only digital outputs to be connected to a variety of external DAC’s. 
Maybe it is easier to just develop two different piggy back boards for
the Wandboard that addresses the needs for the audience in group A and
another board that addresses the needs for group B. This might be a way
to reduce the number of connectors on each piggy back boards?

I also like the “modular” approach and maybe USB is indeed another way
to achieve that.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread JohnSwenson

Mnyb wrote: 
 Meaning that the DAC kit will not include any wand board ?
 
 If that's the case I'll get one in 1-2 months , ( I will get into a
 period of a lot do to professionally will not be home much , will be on
 custommer sites ) .
 
 When the carrier board is released a link to what would be a proper
 power supply would be good too , or will it be included ?

In addition to what Jackofall mentioned, remember there are two phases:
csp1 which is a beta test, only a small number will be made and csp2
which will be a general release. Csp1 is going to just be a carrier
board, the users will need to buy a wandboard, case, PS etc. and
assemble the pieces themselves. The CPU module from the wandboard will
need to be swapped to the csp1 carrier. The only tool needed is a
screwdriver and maybe pliers if you want to use wifi. 

Exactly how csp2 is going to be distributed has not been completely
worked out yet. We would like to make available several options, such as
a kit and a fully assembled box. We might be able to offer the carrier
board by itself, or maybe a complete kit with all the pieces from one
place, or some intermediate method, we don't know exactly how this is
going to work out yet. It's going to take some time to get all this
worked out. We are trying to come up with multiple options so someone
can get parts and do the final assembly themselves, thus saving some
money, or spend a little more to get the fully assembled box. We are not
trying to be secretive, the details simply have not been worked out yet,
there are no concrete details at this point. 

So IF you are planning on being on the csp1 beta test group you will
definitely need to purchase your own wandboard, the dual model. If you
plan on using wifi you will need the antenna, the csp1, will NOT use the
wandboard plastic case, it is using a specific Hammond aluminum
extrusion case.  The power supply used for a wandboard will be usable
for csp1. Be careful, some wandboard distributors include a PS, many do
not. Csp1 will include a micro USB port as a power port, you can use
either the barrel or the USB port for power (just not both at the same
time)

If you get a wandboard now, can you reuse it's cpu for later releases?
Maybe, we don't know yet whether we will be releasing the later products
without cpu modules.  

BTW there is no official beta group yet, no official list. When csp1
is getting closer to being available we will do that. So don't start
trying to jockey for position in the list just yet, any such requests
are going to be ignored (at least by me) at this point. I want to focus
my attention on getting boards designed and working first. 

For everybody, please be patient, this project is being worked on in
people's spare time, it's going to take some time to get the different
pieces of this done correctly. I know a lot of you are excited about
this, but don't expect a finished product immediately, there is a lot to
do and it IS going to take some time to get it all done. 

John S.



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Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30

2013-04-16 Thread valnar

I saw it only briefly mentioned in this forum, but Cubox has a
Squeezebox player install.  Has anyone used it?  If you only need S/PDIF
it seems perfect.

I was going to buy one anyway for XBMC, but might end up using it for
this if it works well.
http://www.solid-run.com/projects/52-how-to-turn-your-cubox-into-a-diy-squeezebox-music-player



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Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30

2013-04-16 Thread castalla

valnar wrote: 
 I saw it only briefly mentioned in this forum, but Cubox has a
 Squeezebox player install.  Has anyone used it?  If you only need S/PDIF
 it seems perfect.
 
 I was going to buy one anyway for XBMC, but might end up using it for
 this if it works well.
 http://www.solid-run.com/projects/52-how-to-turn-your-cubox-into-a-diy-squeezebox-music-player

It's probably overpriced compared with other options - no wifi, no
bluetooth, no analog audio out.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread bpa

JackOfAll wrote: 
 We cannot commit to this until third-parties agree (if they ever do) to
 supply us bare CPU boards without the default Wandboard carrier board.

As far as I can make out the CPU module that comes with the Wandboard
baseboard is the Technexion EDM1-CF-IMX6 ( see
http://www.technexion.com/index.php/products/edm/edm-som/edm1-cf-imx6 )
and seems to be distributed by a number of companies such as Review
Display Systems in the Uk  ( see
http://www.review-displays.co.uk/acatalog/EDM_Standard__Pin_Compatible_Solutions.html
) or es-france  http://www.es-france.com/produit7053/product_info.html
or at worst talk to Technexion themselves.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread enestu

Hi,
Do you know cubox  http://www.solid-run.com/cubox ?

It's stable, well finished,  come with esata, spdif, 2x usbsupport,
support lot of linux distribution like xbmc...
There's already a french audiophile project based on cubox+upnp+airplay
http://www.forum-audiophile.fr/musique-demat/un-streamer-audio-drive-reseau-sur-cubox-t35758.html

It could be perfect for a touchbox replacement, more expensive  than a
rasberry pi but cheaper than Wandboard.



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Re: [slim] Pre-Announcement: ickStream Music Platform

2013-04-16 Thread erland

As some people might have guessed already, some of the poll threads I
have been posting during the last year was really related to ickStream.

So as an example, if you didn't answer the playlist management related
poll previously, it might be a good idea to go back and answer that
thread now if you are interested in ickStream and saved playlists
containing local or online music, you will find the thread here:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?94988-How-do-you-want-to-create-manage-playlists

Also, if there is anything special you have always wanted LMS/Squeezebox
to do which it doesn't support yet, please let us know through this
pre-announcement thread and we will consider if it's something that fits
ickStream. Generally we will consider all ideas but we will of course
have to prioritize which ones we implement and in which order we
implement them.



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Re: [slim] FreeNAS v8.3 installation possible?

2013-04-16 Thread wilbert-vb

http://www.xenopsyche.com/ip/lms/ReadMe.txt
http://www.xenopsyche.com/ip/lms/



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Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze

2013-04-16 Thread albertone74

Hi Triode,

I have got a FLIRC device today. As I would like to use the SBT IR
remote control, can you please let me know how I can use this file

CommunitySqueeze Flirc Configuration.zip

that you are referring to, in post #4?

Many thanks.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread eLR!C

The purpose of John  others is to build a true audio platform in which
wandboard chip will be the core as it is meant to be integrated in
different systems (which is not the purpose of the cubox). Moreover, a
nice HW audio interface is currently being built.
This is a long thread, but it is worth reading to understand the choices
which have been made.

btw, cubox is $119 (including power adpter and case) which is not
significanlty cheaper than a wandboard ...



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Re: [slim] Announce: Community Squeeze

2013-04-16 Thread albertone74

albertone74 wrote: 
 Hi Triode,
 
 I have got a FLIRC device today. As I would like to use the SBT IR
 remote control, can you please let me know how I can use this file
 
 CommunitySqueeze Flirc Configuration.zip
 
 that you are referring to, in post #4?
 
 Many thanks.

Triode,

It is working! I have just followed the FLIRC instructions on the
screen. It is s nice with jivelite :)



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread Triode

enestu wrote: 
 Hi,
 Do you know cubox  http://www.solid-run.com/cubox ?
 
 It's stable, well finished,  come with esata, spdif, 2x usbsupport,
 support lot of linux distribution like xbmc...
 There's already a french audiophile project based on cubox+upnp+airplay
 http://www.forum-audiophile.fr/musique-demat/un-streamer-audio-drive-reseau-sur-cubox-t35758.html
 
 It could be perfect for a touchbox replacement, more expensive  than a
 rasberry pi but cheaper than Wandboard.

Yes I have a cubox and it works well with external usb dacs.  Its lower
powered than the wandboard, but perfectly ok as as player and potential
display.  However what it does not offer is the ability to add high
quality audio electronics to the base player which is what the purpose
of the project is.  We chose the Wandboard as it has a cpu module which
can be unplugged from the default carrier card and used in our carrier
card which will have more audio electronics on it - suggest you read the
rest of the thread.



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread bernid

Congrats, Great plans!!!
Will there be an option to connect external DAC via I2S interface?
Will I be able to connect an external MasterClock?



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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2013-04-16 Thread simi

I recognised a problem when I tried to save my WPA2 password. It
includes ' which is ignored when I set the password. ' misses in the
passoword when I list the settings. Is there any solution for this
issue?

Many thanks!



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread Alcaudon

bernid wrote: 
 Congrats, Great plans!!!
 Will there be an option to connect external DAC via I2S interface?
 Will I be able to connect an external MasterClock?

I didn't dare to bother John with it, but that would be great (and if it
could be with U.FL connectors... man, that would be awesome!)



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Re: [slim] Net::UDAP - SqueezeBox Receiver configuration tool

2013-04-16 Thread garym

simi wrote: 
 I recognised a problem when I tried to save my WPA2 password. It
 includes ' which is ignored when I set the password. ' misses in the
 passoword when I list the settings. Is there any solution for this
 issue?
 
 Many thanks!

can you change your router WPA2 password so that it doesn't include such
characters?



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2013-04-16 Thread JohnSwenson

bpa wrote: 
 As far as I can make out the CPU module that comes with the Wandboard
 baseboard is the Technexion EDM1-CF-IMX6 ( see
 http://www.technexion.com/index.php/products/edm/edm-som/edm1-cf-imx6 )
 and seems to be distributed by a number of companies such as Review
 Display Systems in the Uk  ( see
 http://www.review-displays.co.uk/acatalog/EDM_Standard__Pin_Compatible_Solutions.html
 ) or es-france  http://www.es-france.com/produit7053/product_info.html
 or at worst talk to Technexion themselves.
 
 edit:
 This forum post looks relevant as it seems to say wandboard org is
 organising packs of CPU modules  
 http://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/wandboard/wand$20board$20som/wandboard/1gk3sfSI0lA/NeayympRr-YJ

No it's not the EDM1-CF-IMX6. That module has NAND flash on the module.
The wandboard module does not have the NAND flash but instead has a
micro-SD card slot. There are some very good reasons for prefering the
SD card rather than NAND flash. 

That said the Technexion module probably WILL work, as long as you have
the necessary setup to program the NAND flash. 

John S.



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Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?

2013-04-16 Thread Wirrunna

erland wrote: 
 To anyone that currently uses static playlists:
 1. How many static playlists do you have for your library ?
 2. Is a static playlist typically something you make, use for a single
 event/party and deletes afterwards ? 
 3. Is a static playlist typically something you make once and never
 change afterwards ?
 4. Can you give some examples of static playlists which you currently
 have and use continuously ? (name + when you use them)

1. 19, all generated by MIP based on specific 'seed tracks', lightly
edited by removing an occasional track, 50 tracks long.
2. No
3. Yes
4. Walking In The Air playlist, generated by MIP from Walking in the Air
from Forest CD by George Winston. My wife likes this as background music
for drawing. Other similarly used playlists are Faure - Pavane, Adagios
and Gwenlaise.

Like bakker_be says, bakker_be wrote: 
 I'm a very happy user of MusicIP through Spicefly Sugarcube, which
 perfectly covers normal listening  and bakker_be wrote: 
 When I'm doing serious listening, I always pick specific albums and
 the add to end-function, mainly using my tablet or the GUI. If I am in my 
 study (Boom) I usually have the GUI open on
the SugarCube Live View and occasionally add one or more tracks from the
list of MIP Track Recommendations. I very rarely listen to Internet
streams. Serious listening is in the lounge room (Touch, NAD amp and
K-Horns) and tablet as controller. My wife has a small amp and speakers
in her studio, connected to the Tape Out on the NAD amp.



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