Re: [slim] Logitech divesting from some product lines
I've been using an iPhone/iPad app called Roomie Remote (www.roomieremote.com) to control my AV kit and this works with an adaptor from www.globalcache.com for devices that still use IR. I think Roomi is great - really easy to set-up and use. I think the future of dedicated remotes like Harmony is quite limited. mikerob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97925 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
Another way too answer your question: I store embedded and folder.jpg for all music (mainly flac and mp3). I tend to try to find the highest resolution artwork I can (typically in the 800x800 to 1500x1500 range unless it's obscure). It doesn't cause me any performance issues AFAIK. What is your server? If it's is very slow/underpowered then you might have issues. I'm running this on an HP microserver, but used to also run it on an aged XP box. It was also OK on that. Are you looking at using the Touch in standalone mode? If you are then you need to consider what to do as the touch is apparently slow with art. There are threads about this, but haven't tried/experienced this myself. Louis 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw) lrossouw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
Embedding artwork into every track rather than storing one single cover.jpg must increase the storage size required for your library? Granted they are not big files but over time and many CDs I would have thought that they would add up to a relatively significant amount of HDD space. 2 x Duet, Radio, Touch Receiver with iPeng SqueezePlayer served by HP N36 running FreeNAS/SlimNAS/LMS 7.8 HeadBanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
flimflam wrote: Thanks. So when scanning the library, LMS cross-checks the embedded art for each track and if it is a repeat of another track, they share the same cached files? only if they are from the same album And therefore once scanning is complete, there is no difference in storage or workload compared to a single folder.jpg with no embedded artwork? In practice, there shouldn't be. I looked long and hard for some basic info in layman's terms about this but couldn't find much. I think LMS when scanning the library makes one small and one large pre-cached image (potentially up to two cached images per track if they were all embedded with different images) - is that right? And these are ready-made for the thumbnail and Now Playing views in Players? I was wondering then what exact resolution are these images and where/in what form does the server store them? Well, it's not really a topic the average user cares much about, I'd guess. Pre-generated sizes are: Code: 100x100_o, # Web UI large thumbnails '75x75_p', # iPeng '64x64_m', # Fab4 10'-UI Album list '50x50_o', # Web UI small thumbnails '41x41_m', # Jive/Baby Album list '40x40_m', # Fab4 Album list Recent versions of LMS 7.8 allow 3rd party extensions to register additional sizes, see the thread Registering custom resizing specifications to be pre-cached in the Developer's forum. Additionally, if another size is requested by an application (e.g. SqueezePlay uses 240x240px, the web GUI 96x96px), it will be generated on-the-fly and cached as well. As mentioned, the images are stored in a database (artwork.db), which can grow to a large size (see 'this' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98776-Registering-custom-resizing-specificiations-to-be-pre-cachedp=749287viewfull=1#post749287) and subsequent posts for a detailed analysis an why this is happening). Short version: Due to an issue in LMS, full-sized pictures will also be cached. Additionally, if the image isn't perfectly square (e.g. 801x800 instead of 800x800), it will be (under certain circumstances) cached as a png, no matter what the original format is (see above linked thread for details), effectively doubling the size. This happens both for embedded and standalone artwork. That being said, the size of the database shouldn't really affect performance (my artwork.db at one point was 5.3 GB, and I never noticed any issues). What is noticeable for large full-size covers, though, is the increase in network transmission time, as a 1.5mb jpg gets converted to a 12mb png, which is then sent from the LMS server to your browser. [ extGUI4LMS - an alternative web interface: 'forum' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98186-Announce-Alternative-Web-Interface-(beta)) / 'homepage' (http://code.google.com/p/extgui4lms/) ] Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Using Radio headphone out to connect to powered speakers. Sound quality?
of the Squeezebox radio is stereo, rather than mono. Has anyone used the radio headphone jack to run powered speakers? What is the quality compared to say, a Squeezebox Classic? I was using a Classic to run some powered speakers and also hooking it up to a PA system. The Classic died and the prices on eBay for all the components are so high that they are approaching Sonos cost. I can pick up a Squeezebox Radio cheaply. Will it do the job or is there a significant quality difference using the radio headphone jack? Viventis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Using Radio headphone out to connect to powered speakers. Sound quality?
I tried this... The quality is fine, though not quite up to Touch quality. You'll find the Radio output at 100% volume is lower than the Classic/Touch (2.0vrms) at around 1.3vrms, around the same as the average PC soundcard. But yea, it sounds just fine. :) ReValveiT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=55767 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99005 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
Thank you everyone, especially Roland0 for your brilliant answer - v helpful, really. flimflam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
HeadBanger wrote: Embedding artwork into every track rather than storing one single cover.jpg must increase the storage size required for your library? Granted they are not big files but over time and many CDs I would have thought that they would add up to a relatively significant amount of HDD space. Given I use lossless encoding, and the average length of a track - it would be about 1% of my library with 'hi-res' artwork, which I think isn't too bad of a hit. I am contemplating this approach for reasons outside of Squeezebox. For example, in iTunes on my Mac I can't find any other way for the tracks in one album to display the Now Playing artwork other than to embed each and every file (any clever person know how to do this?) It also means I can just copy files to my USB stick which I still use in my car and other places, and artwork shows up without fuss mostly flimflam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56891 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
flimflam wrote: Given I use lossless encoding, and the average length of a track - it would be about 1% of my library with 'hi-res' artwork, which I think isn't too bad of a hit. I am contemplating this approach for reasons outside of Squeezebox. For example, in iTunes on my Mac I can't find any other way for the tracks in one album to display the Now Playing artwork other than to embed each and every file (any clever person know how to do this?) It also means I can just copy files to my USB stick which I still use in my car and other places, and artwork shows up without fuss mostly I use a single file in album directory for my lossless but I embed the art in each mp3 file (i.e., the mp3 copies I make of my lossless FLAC files for use on iphone, etc.). In terms of embedding art in each file (I assume you use Apple Lossless if using itunes), you can use mp3tag or dbpoweramp to embed art in a batch manner. But these run on Windows machines. On a manual basis, within itunes, just right click the file(s), [and from memory] go to file properties, etc. click on the artwork tab, then right click and paste the art you want to be embedded. *Location 1:* VortexBox Appliance 6TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.7.2 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.7 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Embed art vs folder.jpg?
flimflam wrote: Possibly a dumb question, but if I embed folder.jpg into each file of, for example, a 10 track album (to make life easier outside of Squeezebox), does this cause ten times the work for LMS artwork resizing and caching (and use up ten times the cache storage)? I'm not positive, but I believe that it does increase both the work done by the server when pre-caching resized artwork during a scan, plus the amount of storage required for the cached images. Like I say, I'm not 100% certain, but it would take some effort to tell if images embedded in different files are the same, and it would have had to have been done specifically to decrease the cache size and/or the work done. Does Andy still read the forums? I've always preferred to simply use a cover.jpg image in album folders. It's easy to maintain, easy to see how big the existing artwork is, requires less space. The only time that I ever _had_ to use embedded images was when I owned an iPod. Thankfully, I've long since gotten rid of that thing. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98996 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
