Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
I'm on dark mode too for both phone and pad. Much easier on the eye! 2 x Duet, Radio, Touch Receiver with iPeng 7 SqueezePlayer served by HP N36 running FreeNAS/SlimNAS/LMS 7.8 HeadBanger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38024 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
I'm currently using a laptop with 4 external 2 TB drives for storage of 215,000 Flac and MP3 files. Things are a bit unwieldy and backup is time consuming. Each drive takes 12-24 hours to backup over USB 2.0. I need to add another drive soon as I am running over about 7 TB of actual files. Any ideas as to what would be a more efficient system for storage and backup (and possibly the server)??? I've thought about getting a custom-built server computer with at least 10-15 TB of internal storage and backup via a USB 3.0 external hard dock. The hard drives would be of the slower energy efficient variety and get a energy efficient processor. I'm not crazy about a NAS because of the vagaries of running LMS on a nonstandard OS and a very low-power processor. Let me know your thoughts. Happy Holidaze. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 215,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
I like the dark look, too. I have a question to all users and to pippin (I also asked him in an email): Mrs Datja wants an Airplay speaker for Christmas present, to use via LMS - iPad w iPeng 7 playback. (She wants a new stereo with LMS connection in a new room, and SB being discontinued, I felt that using one of our existing iPad/iPengs would be smartest.) Will this work in a wife-friendly manner. Does anybody know? Will streaming sound from the LMS youtube plugin (provided that it works [not at present]) through Airplay to the speakers work? We don't have Apple TV -- is that needed? I wish that pippin adopted the youtube plugin -- that is my only suggestion. datja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
audiomuze wrote: Slightly OT, but has anyone managed to install Vortexbox from a USB stick? not that I know of. frequently requested. Andrew says the next major update to Vortexbox software will allow installation from USB stick. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ok to sell Squeezebox equipment here?
Priced drop 12-17-2013. mudflap5's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52304 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100263 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
datja wrote: I like the dark look, too. I have a question to all users and to pippin (I also asked him in an email): Mrs Datja wants an Airplay speaker for Christmas present, to use via LMS - iPad w iPeng 7 playback. (She wants a new stereo with LMS connection in a new room, and SB being discontinued, I felt that using one of our existing iPad/iPengs would be smartest.) Will this work in a wife-friendly manner. Does anybody know? Will streaming sound from the LMS youtube plugin (provided that it works [not at present]) through Airplay to the speakers work? We don't have Apple TV or Airport Express -- is either of those necessary? I wish that pippin adopted the youtube plugin -- that is my only suggestion. does airplay work at all with LMS? Why not just have any sort of powered speaker system connected to a dock, and use ipeng and player function sitting in the dock to mimic a squeezebox player? Why the need for airplay? *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
Thank you but that was not what my wife wanted. Docking is so 00s ;) - for example one can't use the iPad for other stuff when docked. I have to order these speakers today for Christmas to be Merry. datja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
datja wrote: Thank you but that was not what my wife wanted. Docking is so 00s ;) - for example one can't use the iPad for other stuff when docked. I have to order these speakers today for Christmas to be Merry. OK. But as I noted, I'm not sure airplay works with LMS. Someone else will need to confirm whether I'm correct about this. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
Hi, you must decide which way you wanna die... ~138 MB/s is the fastest SATA Harddisk thats aviable for Money - if you wanna go higher you have to chosse SSD. But 9 TB made of a bunch of SSD is a bit expensive? Small Backuptimes and real Big Disks are not possible. For this Case a good Networker always uses identical Storage Systems that rsync permanetly to solve that Problem. Permantent Rsyncing and energy efficient processor is boring cause of a energy efficient processor is capable to minimize the Power if its not needed - but rsyncing needs Power. SO which way you wanna die and what size of Money you wanna spend? Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
garym wrote: not that I know of. frequently requested. Andrew says the next major update to Vortexbox software will allow installation from USB stick. There are instructions somewhere on how to install from USB, but they were so convoluted that I gave in and burned a CD. Usually I burn to CDRW if I think I'm only going to use it once, but unfortunately the ISO is too large to fit on CDRW. If USB install is coming, it's not a day too soon. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
Well it's not LMS itself that'd use airplay but ipeng playback to airplay receiver. datja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58514 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
datja wrote: Well it's not LMS itself that'd use airplay but ipeng playback to airplay receiver. Are you saying that the above does work? Or are you asking whether that will work? *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
OK, I've answered your mail with a bit more detail but let'S do the short version here, too, to avoid confusion: AirPlay does of course not work directly with LMS but it DOES work just fine with iPeng's playback. Under iOS 7 some people have even been successful in using synchronization although that's still clearly not as good as with a Squeezebox or an iThingy wired to the speakers. Although that could also have been caused by the downstream audio chain on my AppleTV, I have to experiment a bit more with this. The limitations of AirPlay are in the way AirPlay works: you only get 44.1/16, everything else will play but get re-sampled by iOS. And iPeng has to run for the Audio to play. On an iPad that's probably feasible due to the large battery and the large RAM. Still... if you've got a spare iThingy I'd dock it and use it as a dedicated player. Makes for a nice, permanent NowPlaying screen and definitely syncs well (if it's at least a 3rd generation device). --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
Regarding the time it takes to rip a single CD: among other factors like quality of your CD drive and your CD, it also depends on whether it's a real Audio CD or not: it feels like decades ago but in fact it is not so long ago that parts of the music industry tried hard to prevent copying a CD. For such CDs (sometimes there is a remark on the back cover) the ripping process might take really long to succeed. reinholdk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36070 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] JASONRPC errors, and Unable to get players from SN: malformed JSON string ??
I'm trying to get MusicIP running on a QNAP, and looking through logs for clues I am finding a bunch of errors as below, consistently appearing. Are these indicating a serious issue, and how do I find out what is causing them?.. Code: [13-12-17 15:17:39.6508] main::init (355) Starting Logitech Media Server (v7.8.0, 1385035599, Mon Nov 25 19:18:59 PST 2013) perl 5.01 [13-12-17 15:17:40.3024] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1311) Warning: [15:17:40.3022] DBIx::Class::ResultSet::update_or_create(): Query returned more than one row. SQL that returns multiple rows is DEPRECATED for -find and -single at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Schema.pm line 1891 [13-12-17 15:17:44.0087] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, at character offset 0 (before \htmlntheadnttti...\) at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Networking/SqueezeNetwork/Players.pm line 97. , retrying in 2580 seconds [13-12-17 15:17:46.2725] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (443) request not dispatchable! [13-12-17 15:17:46.7050] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: malformed JSON string, neither array, object, number, string or atom, at character offset 0 (before \htmlntheadnttti...\) at /share/MD0_DATA/.qpkg/LogitechMediaServer/var/home/SqueezeboxServer/Slim/Networking/SqueezeNetwork/Players.pm line 97. , retrying in 2640 seconds It then retries every 3000 seconds or so. Error seems to come from Players.pm, line 97? yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] JASONRPC errors, and Unable to get players from SN: malformed JSON string ??
Try to restart the server (software). That usually helps. But only do it, if you really have a problem, otherwise it's harmless. A problem would be that you can't access online services. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
reinholdk wrote: Regarding the time it takes to rip a single CD: among other factors like quality of your CD drive and your CD, it also depends on whether it's a real Audio CD or not: it feels like decades ago but in fact it is not so long ago that parts of the music industry tried hard to prevent copying a CD. For such CDs (sometimes there is a remark on the back cover) the ripping process might take really long to succeed. or not succeed at all. I remember this from first time around with the MP3 rips. Wasn't it the case that some CDs wouldn't play on a computer? Maybe particularly ones on the Sony label?? Struggling to remember with any accuracy I'm afraid. I think though that I only ended up with a small handful of really difficult to rip CDs, most did go through OK, even if they did take a while. Going back to the tagging thing, as this is one of the key reasons I'm starting over, I think I'm going to have to do a bit more research on the file tags somewhere. Can anyone recommend a good 'executive summary' of the issue? Something that covers the topic without too much 'tech-speak'? Ta. D SB user since 2000... 2 x SB1 ; 2 x SB3 ; 2 x Boom ; 1 x Touch ; 1 x Controller Windows 7 and LMS Version: 7.7.3 - 1375965195 Next step... a Vortexbox? donmacn's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36036 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
I use Windows Home Server 2011 with a product called DriveBender and specify duplication for my music folder. DriveBender maintains duplicate files on separate drives on the same server. This way I only have offsite backup to address. DriveBender takes a group of drives and makes it appear as a single drive to the OS and applications. If the server itself crashes I can just read the drives on another PC as native drives without additional software. With the duplication specified for the music folder I'm protected from a individual drive failure. Just my 2ยข 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs Rock Solid with LMS 7.7.4 and WHS 2011 w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
donmacn wrote: or not succeed at all. I remember this from first time around with the MP3 rips. Wasn't it the case that some CDs wouldn't play on a computer? Maybe particularly ones on the Sony label?? Struggling to remember with any accuracy I'm afraid. I think though that I only ended up with a small handful of really difficult to rip CDs, most did go through OK, even if they did take a while. Going back to the tagging thing, as this is one of the key reasons I'm starting over, I think I'm going to have to do a bit more research on the file tags somewhere. Can anyone recommend a good 'executive summary' of the issue? Something that covers the topic without too much 'tech-speak'? Ta. D http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Tagging *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.2) LMS 7.8 Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) LMS 7.7.2 Touch Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) LMS 7.8 SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Transition to Vortexbox - hoping to do it 'right' from the start
Sony was putting out CD's that would install a rootkit on a windows PC IF autoplay was enabled (this was the default, but can be turned off). DBPowerAmp has a setting for reading these discs as long as your drive supports it. Check in the DBPA Options for the Defective By Design setting. 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs Rock Solid with LMS 7.7.4 and WHS 2011 w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100549 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
What I did was get an aluminum case (the one I bought is not made any more, but there are others) with a wind tunnel of drive mounts with a fan at both ends of the tunnel to keep drives cool. A medium type motherboard (no need for super graphics etc). I put vortexbox software on this and it became the server for the house. I left it on 24/7, the wind tunnel in the case kept the drives cool for very long life. It sat in an out of the way spot in the spare bedroom. It does make some noise, but really not very much. For backups you have some choices. The easiest is just build another system the same as the first and rsync over ethernet between them. This gives you a good local backup. Then do a rotating backup off the secondary on external drives stored offsite. Since you are essentially building your own NAS, you can put whatever hardware interfaces you want on it such as multiple USB3 ports, whatever. The backup server does not have to run 24/7, just enough to handle the rsync, which is probably not much once a full copy has been done. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
As DJanGo asks, SO which way you wanna die and what size of Money you wanna spend? What works for me is a master / slave two server combination. Both systems run Win 7/64 The master is an old Antec P182 case with a quad core Intel chip and a bunch of 2GB drives, 2 for music, one for video and one for TV series. All new music is ripped, tagged, processed by MusicIP etc and stored on the master. New versions of LMS 7.8 are also run there. This system is powered down when not in use. The slave is a mini-ITX system with a low power AMD motherboard and 2 2TB drives. Power draw during a rescan is about 35 watts, normal LMS playing power draw is well below that. This system starts with Wake on Lan and is shut down by the Server Power Control plugin. It lives under the 40 TV and plays Video and DVDs when needed. The music library is kept in sync using Syncback - http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/ . Backup is also done by Syncback and Seagate USB 2TB Desktop Expansion Drives. I suggest that a dedicated server will be better for you than utilising a laptop that is surplus to requirements. You could keep using the laptop as the Master like I do for processing new music and use the dedicated server as the slave. I would replace the 2TB USB drives with Seagate 4TB drives. Now the reading list - This case looks good - http://www.silentpcreview.com/Fractal_Design_Node_304, pick a motherboard from - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/z87-motherboard-roundup,3656.html, disks from - http://www.storagereview.com/wd_black_4tb_desktop_hard_drive_review_wd4003fzex . All the decisions - Single system or Master / Slave, then Operating system, CPU, motherboard (my next one will be a mini-ITX with an onboard mSATA 120GB SSD for drive C), HDD size, HDD speed (and therefore power draw) await you. Happy reading. A camel is a racehorse designed by a committee. Wirrunna's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3225 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I keep getting the popup to update squeezebox
jojopuppyfish wrote: 1) Disable the checking for s/w updates setting in WebUI Settings/Advanced/Software Updates ? 2) Goto folder C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Squeezebox\Cache\updates Stop services and delete everything in this folder. then restart On windows 7 folder is C:\ProgramData\Squeezebox\Cache\updates jojopuppyfish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9400 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85056 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] JASONRPC errors, and Unable to get players from SN: malformed JSON string ??
pippin wrote: Try to restart the server (software). That usually helps. But only do it, if you really have a problem, otherwise it's harmless. A problem would be that you can't access online services. Thanks, I have restarted several times. I also have 2 x NAS (1 as backup) and both have the same issue, and it appears have for quite some time. But not so for the Windows server, so I do not think it is a local network issue. Also, one of the machines is on a DMZ so not going through the router firewall, and they are on different WANs yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
jimzak wrote: I'm currently using a laptop with 4 external 2 TB drives for storage of 215,000 Flac and MP3 files. Things are a bit unwieldy and backup is time consuming. Each drive takes 12-24 hours to backup over USB 2.0. I need to add another drive soon as I am running over about 7 TB of actual files. Any ideas as to what would be a more efficient system for storage and backup (and possibly the server)??? I've thought about getting a custom-built server computer with at least 10-15 TB of internal storage and backup via a USB 3.0 external hard dock. The hard drives would be of the slower energy efficient variety and I would specify an energy efficient processor. I'm not crazy about a NAS because of the vagaries of running LMS on a nonstandard OS and a very low-power processor. Let me know your thoughts. Happy Holidaze. I have 6TB but not all is taken as I prune video rather quickly, however my setup might be of interest to you. I've got Mediasonic Raid box that can take up to 4 drives, I know they have enclosures that can take up to 8. In a common raid 5 configuration with 3TB drives that will give you potentially 20TB give or take. This enclosures have their own raid controller and connect to a PC either via usb3 or eSata. I have my 6TB connected to a simple Acer nettop which serves it to the network as a NFS storage via gigabyte (it could be served via Samba for Windows). You do not need a lot of power to run network storage. My slim server runs on another server (with more horse power) so scans and directory browsing is snappy. Acer nettop runs linux. Mediasonic Raid enclosure that I have does not provide great write speeds after a while when data is fragmented among the drives, but after initial backup, rsync should (or the other canned programs that do the same) relatively quickly sync your backup and main storage as it only goes after the differences and not a mirror backup. You could use Mediasonic as your backup device, I'm using it as a main storage server and have rsync backups to docked drives via usb2. Would like to purchase another Mediasonic just for the backups but I'm trying to economize. Good luck and how many hours do you need to listen to all that flac that you have ? :-) George Transporter-Pathos Logos-Triangle Celius Touch-Yamaha RX-V673 - Paradigm Monitor 7 2 Duets, 1 Boom, 1 SB3, 1 Touch, 1 Radio, Transporter Samsung Galaxy IIS - Sennheiser HD 380 Pro 2 servers - Arch Linux, Ubuntu Linux matka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34878 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
I would recommend a good NAS for such storage needs. USB drives are probably the worst storage means, especially for large storage needs; and 8 TB is huge. A decent NAS has plenty of power these days, technology has improved a lot. There are different ways to backup a NAS and the great part is that they can be automated and running during the night. The first time you backup the entire 8 TB will take a long time but consecutive backups will be very fast. Rsync will be your friend. I always recommend ReadyNAS; they are packed with great features (such as fast and easy storage growth) and they provide great value for the money. If I were you I would have a look at the ReadyNAS 314. 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard behind the bedroom ceiling ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPod Touch. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
matka wrote: Edit - I just checked newegg user comments, Cannot use RAID5 using all 8 disks, only option is to use RAID 50 which is 2 sets RAID 5 in RAID 0.. Still an option though. Raid is just another thing... All -my- Raid Adapters (did i wrote that my job is managing servers and networks already?) have more Power than any lightweight or called here - more efficient system- Processor just for the XOR doing things thats needed for a raid. Another issue why energy efficient is just a -buzz word-. He should get a NAS with Red WD Disks. And just again... You cant backup a bunch of disks on one disk - if they are all the same size. So Backup and and Production System / Disks have to match each other (usualy the Backupdisk should be bigger) Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
A headless Linux or Windows server. For Windows, it doesn't need to be a server OS - Windows 7 Pro would be my recommendation if you go that route, with native Remote Desktop Server rather than using VNC. If you'd like some disk pooling and perhaps disk redundancy, I would use 'flexRAID' (http://www.flexraid.com/) (on Windows) instead of hardware RAID. More flexible, easier to manage, and MUCH less prone to user f***ups when you lose a drive. For backup, a mirror computer system. It could have identical specs as the server above, then could be used in its place if the first system fails. Or, it could have lesser specs to save a few dollars and be used solely for backup. With that much data, a significant percentage of the cost will be in the hard drives themselves, so building a second system for backup should be reasonable. Make sure you have a gigabit network, as you'll be doing backups across the network. The time to do backups shouldn't be a concern any more, as you won't be swapping drives. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 8 TB Storage and more...
jimzak wrote:
I'm currently using a laptop with 4 external 2 TB drives for storage of
215,000 Flac and MP3 files.
Things are a bit unwieldy and backup is time consuming. Each drive
takes 12-24 hours to backup over USB 2.0.
I need to add another drive soon as I am running over about 7 TB of
actual files.
Any ideas as to what would be a more efficient system for storage and
backup (and possibly the server)???
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but my general thoughts are that you
should separate:
1. LMS server
2. Storage
3. Backup
These three things have very different needs.
For LMS server, you want to use a computer for best performance. It can
be a small, silent computer or a old used cheap computer, both these
alternatives are generally significantly better than running LMS on a
NAS. Even if the NAS is powerful today, you will eventually end up in a
situation where you need to purchase a complete new NAS just because you
need more CPU or memory and this gets expensive.
For storage, a NAS is perfect, it's extensible and it's easy to add more
storage when you need it. Just make sure you select one with enough
drive slots so it's easy to extend it with more storage as you need. I
would personally warn you a bit regarding using RAID, with RAID you
typically need exactly the same hard drives in all slots and while this
is easy when you initially set it up, it can be hard to purchase new
drives later since the ones you purchased initially might no longer be
sold at that time. Look for JBOD support, which most NAS boxes support,
that makes it possible to expose the drives as individual drives and you
can add drives of different types to the NAS box when you need more
storage. RAID sounds good, but it does NOT replace backup as some people
seems to think. Also, pretty much all times I've been involved in a
setup with RAID where a disk has crashed it has result in that the
system has become more or less useless during the time it takes to
re-build the RAID when you replace a crashed disk. It might be that the
setups I've seen has been setup the wrong way or have incapable RAID
support, but I just want to warn you a bit about it so you don't think
RAID solves all the problems. If you are willing to purchase all the
storage initially, using RAID can make a bit more sense because then you
can always make sure to purchase exactly the same drives, just be a
aware that you have to be a bit selective when you select the hard
drives because some have issues in RAID setups.
For backup you want to use something different than the original NAS.
Main reason for this is that you don't want the backup to be in the same
box as you main storage in case of fire or power malfunctions as it can
easily destroy both your main storage and your backup at the same time.
It can be a good idea to use a NAS also for backup if you need a lot of
storage, but separate USB/e-SATA drives is also a solution. It's
important that you have an incremental backup scheme so you don't need
to backup everything every time, backing up just the changes will be a
lot faster and then it's also feasible to do the backup over the network
or a slower USB connection.
My personal setup consists of:
- A Linux based server computer running LMS in a VirtualBox virtual
machine
- A QNAP 409 Pro NAS storing the music files, drives configured as
single drives (JBOD), mounted via NFS
- An external USB drive where the music files are backed up using an
rsync based backup solution(dirvish) automatically every night
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(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
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and 'RSS Photo Show'
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Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
Eh just tried it on my phone , feeling somewhat stupid . How do you get away from the multiplayer menu to say any other menu ? I'm stuck there ? No buttons no arrows no gestures ? Edit: Ok a restart cured it , all controlls at the bottom off the screen where missing :confused: They returned after the restart , wonder if I ever can reproduce this one , it was on the first start ever of the app ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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datja wrote: Well it's not LMS itself that'd use airplay but ipeng playback to airplay receiver. Alternatively, you could use Bluetooth speakers connected to your iThing. For travel I use UE Boombox speakers with my iPhone. Works great and no need for Airplay. [image: http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/08/28/Logitech_portablespeaker_35419329_01_620x433.jpg] If this is for an iPad, make sure you have at least an iPad 3 (wifi + bt doesn't work well together on an iPad 2). 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard behind the bedroom ceiling ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPod Touch. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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erland wrote: For storage, a NAS is perfect, it's extensible and it's easy to add more storage when you need it. Just make sure you select one with enough drive slots so it's easy to extend it with more storage as you need. I would personally warn you a bit regarding using RAID, with RAID you typically need exactly the same hard drives in all slots and while this is easy when you initially set it up, it can be hard to purchase new drives later since the ones you purchased initially might no longer be sold at that time. Look for JBOD support, which most NAS boxes support, that makes it possible to expose the drives as individual drives and you can add drives of different types to the NAS box when you need more storage. RAID sounds good, but it does NOT replace backup as some people seems to think. Also, pretty much all times I've been involved in a setup with RAID where a disk has crashed it has result in that the system has become more or less useless during the time it takes to re-build the RAID when you replace a crashed disk. It might be that the setups I've seen has been setup the wrong way or have incapable RAID support, but I just want to warn you a bit about it so you don't think RAID solves all the problems. If you are willing to purchase all the storage initially, using RAID can make a bit more sense because then you can always make sure to purchase exactly the same drives, just be a aware that you have to be a bit selective when you select the hard drives because some have issues in RAID setups. With a decent NAS there is no need to use all the same hard drives. That's also a thing of the past. Of course, you do need to look at the NAS manufacturers hardware compatibility list when selecting a suitable hard drive. But in general WD Red hard drives are a good choice (and supported by most decent NAS's). I personally would recommend using RAID for your primary NAS because that gives you drive redundancy; if one drive fails you don't loose data. Where you do loose data with JBOD. I would only use JBOD in a second NAS that you use to backup your primary NAS. 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard behind the bedroom ceiling ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPhone. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100561 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
