Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-01-20 Thread Stoker

norderney wrote: 
 Sorry but I've not been able to read through all the posts on this
 thread, but I was just wondering how easy it is for someone who is
 completely non technically minded to get this new community squeezebox
 installed and working?

Its fairly straight forward. Take a look at the Quick Start guide:
http://www.communitysqueeze.org/ for instructions on getting it all up
and running.

norderney wrote: 
 Is it still in development or is it ready for release?

The hardware and software are still in development, see here
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99395-Community-Squeeze-OS-F19-Release-1
for latest CSOS information.



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[slim] RiP - Steve Fromholz

2014-01-20 Thread garym

Not well known outside Texas, but a giant in his own way. You've heard
his songs covered by Willie Nelson (I'd Have to be Crazy), Lyle Lovett
(Texas Trilogy), etc. I enjoyed many evenings of live entertainment by
him back in the 1970s.

http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/texas-country-legend-steve-fromholz-passes-away



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-01-20 Thread JackOfAll

norderney wrote: 
 Sorry but I've not been able to read through all the posts on this
 thread, but I was just wondering how easy it is for someone who is
 completely non technically minded to get this new community squeezebox
 installed and working?
 Is it still in development or is it ready for release?

Hmmm. How to answer that. I'd be fibbing if I didn't say that we're
still in the development cycle, but assuming you have a little patience,
can download a software image, follow the on-line instructions, (which
are targeted at the non-techy user with a Window$ desktop, rather than a
Unix guru), could a non-technical user end up with a working set-up
today, the answer is, yes. If you expect a shrink-wrapped product, I'm
afraid it isn't that, and in some places the software is still a little
rough around the edges, but for the most part it already works pretty
well! ;)

norderney wrote: 
 
 As LMS is open source are there any plans to continue developing LMS?

Michael, (Logitech developer), is still maintaining LMS on a day to day
basis. Whilst one could argue that it isn't being actively developed,
there is no arguing that it is actively maintained. Having said that,
there has been a little development going on recently to add DSD support
by the community and that should be finding it's way back upstream to
the Logitech 7.8 trunk git, and be available to all, sometime soon.



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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread RioTubes

pippin wrote: 
 
 iPeng can play 24/96, and it will also output 24/96 through USB if (and
 that's a big if) your dock supports it.
 

Thanks, this is what I was after.

One other Q. My understanding is that iPad Air (iOS 7) does not support
AptX Bluetooth. Is hardware required, or does iPeng 7 Player support
AptX? Ultimately, I plan to stream to my iPad Air from server via
LMS/iPeng and then stream from iPad to receiver via AirPlay and/or aptX
(the receiver supports both). 

Regarding the exchange above regarding the dock, my understanding is
that my receiver (NAD D 7050) is capable of 24/96 via its USB dock
(type A USB connector) from iPad Air.



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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread pippin

RioTubes wrote: 
 My understanding is that iPad Air (iOS 7) does not support AptX
 Bluetooth. Is hardware required, or does iPeng 7 Player support AptX?
 
Neither. The Bluetooth stack needs to support the codec. Apps can't
change Apple's Bluetooth stack so if iPad doesn't support the codec, you
can't use it.

 
 Ultimately, I plan to stream to my iPad Air from server via LMS/iPeng
 and then stream from iPad to receiver via AirPlay and/or aptX (the
 receiver supports both). 
 
Don't know about AptX but please be aware that AirPlay only supports
16/48 so if you use AirPlay, iOS will downsample your stream to that
(the 16 bit don't hurt as much as with other transmissions because
volume will be sent separately). The stream uses lossless ALAC.

 
 Regarding the exchange above regarding the dock, my understanding is
 that my receiver (NAD D 7050) is capable of 24/96 via its USB dock
 (type A USB connector) from iPad Air.
Well, the iPad doesn't have a USB port so you need a Lightning-to-USB
adaptor. Also, the iPad has to act as a USB host. Lightning generally
supports that but whether your DAC is compatible is something I don't
know. AFAIK the DAC needs to be part of Apple's MFI program for that.

With the old iPads you could use the CCK but I am not sure that will
still work to full resolution (it might, I just don't know) since you
would put up quite an adapter stack (Lightning-30-Pin-USB).



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Re: [slim] Logitech Media Server 7.7.3 released

2014-01-20 Thread Dieter6581

mherger wrote: 
  Simply copying files will not work.
   From 7.7.2 to 7.8 what is going wrong.
 
 You might need to replace or rename the main script. I don't know what 
 Synology is doing. But check the startup script in /etc/init.d for the 
 actual file LMS is running. That file is either a copy of slimserver.pl
 
 or a link to it. You might need to fix that as well.
 
 -- 
 
 Michael


Had someone find a solution for this?
Only copying does not do the trick and i couldn´t find a startup script
nor this init.d-file.

Dieter



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Re: [slim] Mip: R.i.p?

2014-01-20 Thread schiegl

I was able to get the GUI (MusicIP Mixer) working again after i created
a localhost (127.0.0.1) entry for music.predixis.com in my W7 hosts
file. After scanning the songs, the fingerprint is going to be stored in
the files and the headless version (which is used as backend for my
squeeze stuff) is then able to pick up the imprinted tracks. I was not
able to get genpuid running again using this method.



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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread RioTubes

pippin wrote: 
 AirPlay only supports 16/48 so if you use AirPlay, iOS will downsample
 your stream to that (the 16 bit don't hurt as much as with other
 transmissions because volume will be sent separately). The stream uses
 lossless ALAC.

OK, most of my library is 16/44 so this will work.

pippin wrote: 
 
 Well, the iPad doesn't have a USB port so you need a Lightning-to-USB
 adaptor. Also, the iPad has to act as a USB host. Lightning generally
 supports that but whether your DAC is compatible is something I don't
 know. AFAIK the DAC needs to be part of Apple's MFI program for that.

The manual says applicable for direct playback of iOS device only. 
Using applicable Apple USB connector, connect your device to this
input. I just assumed that the lightning cable will work since it has a
USB connector on one end.



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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread pippin

Hm, that does at least definitely sound like they are part of the MFI
program.
How old is the device?



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Re: [slim] Mip: R.i.p?

2014-01-20 Thread cparker

schiegl wrote: 
 I was able to get the GUI (MusicIP Mixer) working again after i created
 a localhost (127.0.0.1) entry for music.predixis.com in my W7 hosts
 file. After scanning the songs, the fingerprint is going to be stored in
 the files and the headless version (which is used as backend for my
 squeeze stuff) is then able to pick up the imprinted tracks. I was not
 able to get genpuid running again using this method.

Offline mode still works ok with the GUI; I added 4x albums this
weekend and it took approx 15mins to scan them so its liveable.. If you
were starting from scratch on a large library then it would suck but I
guess it depends if you have a system on 24/7 anyway you could just
leave a couple of your CPU cores dedicated to it and let it roll in the
background and come back in a few weeks ;)



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[slim] LUA dev docs?

2014-01-20 Thread cparker

Hi,

Are there any LUA docs around for LMS?  Or is it a case of trying to
unravel the source code on the Touch?
I've done a search but couldn't find anything helpful

Cheers



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Re: [slim] LUA dev docs?

2014-01-20 Thread Triode

cparker wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 Are there any LUA docs around for LMS?  Or is it a case of trying to
 unravel the source code on the Touch?
 I've done a search but couldn't find anything helpful
 
 Cheers

Look in the source code is the only real reference I know - perhaps some
old stuff on the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay



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Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?

2014-01-20 Thread JohnSwenson

gstew wrote: 
 John,
 
 Thanks for the status updates. Very exciting that this is getting closer
 to HW.
 
 John, I've been watching both the Community Squeezebox development and
 the DAC you're doing for Bottlehead and weighing which would be better
 for me. Since my main digital source is from a computer music player,
 Community Squeeze seems to be the best option.
 
 I remember you saying awhile back that the Wandboard/CSPx will require a
 good PS for the best SQ. Would it be a good bet to build up the 5v
 version of your choke-filtered design for that supply? Also, for us
 DIY'ers always trying for a little more, do you expect it will make any
 difference to separate the rails and use multiple supplies, say one for
 the Wandboard and another for the CSPx, especially with all the design
 tricks you are using?
 
 Also, will there be an option to select the appropriate settings in the
 SW (mainly the SoX resampling) or will they be the preset default, or
 will that be a separate configuration step when using a full CSPx setup?
 
 Besides the good power supply, I'm as prepared as I can be... got my
 Wandboard Quad loaded with the Community Squeeze OS F19 and the
 designated Hammond case waiting for a CSPx board!
 
 Again, thanks!
 
 And also thanks to Triode, JackofAll, and all others doing the SW side!
 
 Greg in Mississippi

Hi Greg,
the Bottlehead and CSP have the same DAC topology the differences are
that the CSP is JUST a squeezebox player, the BH does USB and S/PDIF. So
if you are a SB person, going with CSP gives you a more focused option.
For the BH DAC the filter parameters are built in to the FPGA, you can't
change them, for CSP the filter is done in software on the wandboard,
you can change the parameters via a webGui any time you want. 

On the PS front the BH comes with a battery which gets the best out of
it. The CSP has a jack, you can plug whatever you want  into it.  I had
not thought about using separate supplies with the  CSP. In order for it
to work there will have to be some changes to the board layout and some
way to select single or double supply. There is no way to do this with
the boards as they are currently layed out. I will have to think about 
this one and see if there is any way  to do this.

John S.



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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread Mnyb

Ok if AirPlay only support 16/48 what does it do with 16/44.1 content ?




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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread pippin

16/48 is the maximum, everything having higher sample rates will get
downsampled.
16/44.1 will be left as it is.

That said If your AirPlay receiver is an AppleTV which only has an
HDMI output which only supports 16/48, the 44.1 material will obviously
get upsampled by the AppleTV.



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Re: [slim] Mip: R.i.p?

2014-01-20 Thread SlimChances

cparker wrote: 
 Offline mode still works ok with the GUI; I added 4x albums this
 weekend and it took approx 15mins to scan them so its liveable.. If you
 were starting from scratch on a large library then it would suck but I
 guess it depends if you have a system on 24/7 anyway you could just
 leave a couple of your CPU cores dedicated to it and let it roll in the
 background and come back in a few weeks ;)

I know your Spicefly web site has instructions for MusicIP and Linux but
as you note it doesn't work for Ubuntu 12.04 or later. Have a look at my
post (#34) 'HERE'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99235-MusicIP-Mixer-server-statusp=767835highlight=#post767835)
as I have it working on a 12.04 64 bit system (fingerprinting and
working with LMS



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Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?

2014-01-20 Thread Ron Thigpen

From MOG's Twitter account: MOG will not be shut down on Jan. 21st.

More news to follow.

https://twitter.com/mogdotcom

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Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?

2014-01-20 Thread Michael Herger

 From MOG's Twitter account: MOG will not be shut down on Jan. 21st.


...but only on the 22nd. Just kidding :-).

Short as it is, that phrase must be the result of never ending meetings 
with marketing and legal. How do we tell the truth without saying anything?


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Re: [slim] Can iPeng or Squeezepad integrate/control MOG or Spotify?

2014-01-20 Thread RioTubes

The NAD D 7050 came out this past summer 2013. Although it's on back
order, I think the iDevice dock will be one way to stream 24/96. It also
is UPnP compliant. But the UPnP controllers are no iPeng! So I will use
iPeng with AirPlay or the dock for 16/44 material, which is 99% of my
library.



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Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?

2014-01-20 Thread Ron Thigpen

Yeah, hard to say what's going on.

Guessing they've been too slammed putting together the new service to 
give much thought to the old MOG.


I hadn't seen any communication about what they were planing, and if 
they shutting down MOG, how they were planning to transition those 
customers.


It seems good that they're giving it a bit more time.  That sure beats 
(Beats!) just doing a reflexive, thoughtless shut down.


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Re: [slim] Boom bust

2014-01-20 Thread ModelCitizen

Thanks chaps. I couldn't find the replacement Boom psu on the Logitech
web site (the search facility iscvery poor) so in the end* I ordered the
12v 2.5amp one from the UK Mouser store. I didn't bother getting the UK
power fitment as it looked the same as the one on the original beta Boom
supply (fingers crossed then!).

I have say I feel entirely ripped off. The Mouser PSU at £13.40 seems
reasonable enough but to then add an incredible £12 for postage just
makes you feel cheated. I will try to avoid Mouser in future if I can.

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Re: [slim] Shortcuts in the Playlist Folder

2014-01-20 Thread M7CC

Mnyb,

Yes I can, but I have to pick one folder (without shortcuts).  So
currently I only have access to one of my playlist folders from the
player menu.

I can't recall how I came up with this workaround.  It was like 8 years
ago. I'm willing to do it however it takes, as long as I can segregate
m3u files by folder.  For me it's 1000 times easier to maintain
consistency and control over the naming of a few thousand playlist files
than managing tens of thousands of individual tags -- even with MP3tag.



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Re: [slim] Shortcuts in the Playlist Folder

2014-01-20 Thread M7CC

reinholdk, 

I'm talking about the player (and server) menu under Music Library
(which contains folders for Artist, Album, Playlist etc etc, and Music
Folder).  Until now I was able to user Music Folder but now I get the
cannot request error I mentioned above.  I am only partial to Music
Folder because it retains whatever folder structure I want.  The
Playlist folder only lists the contents of a single folder.  Assuming
the shortcuts did work -- I would still want to keep them broken out by
folder.  I guess I'm a weirdo -- but this seems perfectly logical to me
(maybe not the means, but the end does anyway).  :o

In any case I was not aware of this symbolic link thing and will give it
a try and report back.  Fingers crossed... If anyone else is able to
pull off what I'm trying to do please chime in.

Thanks all...



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Re: [slim] Shortcuts in the Playlist Folder

2014-01-20 Thread Mnyb

M7CC wrote: 
 reinholdk, 
 
 I'm talking about the player (and server) menu under Music Library
 (which contains folders for Artist, Album, Playlist etc etc, and Music
 Folder).  Until now I was able to user Music Folder but now I get the
 cannot request error I mentioned above.  I am only partial to Music
 Folder because it retains whatever folder structure I want.  The
 Playlist folder only lists the contents of a single folder.  Assuming
 the shortcuts did work -- I would still want to keep them broken out by
 folder.  I guess I'm a weirdo -- but this seems perfectly logical to me
 (maybe not the means, but the end does anyway).  :o
 
 In any case I was not aware of this symbolic link thing and will give it
 a try and report back.  Fingers crossed... If anyone else is able to
 pull off what I'm trying to do please chime in.
 
 Thanks all...

Have you actually tried to set up the actual playlist folder as playlist
folder NOT as music folder to see if all playlists apear under playlists
? and the music folder as a music folder ?

I would also consider experimenting with scanning only the  playlist
folder , if we want to tinker with unorthodox ways of using this
software .

The files themself ? Are they reasonably tagged ? This is essential for
a usable experience with LMS .




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