Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
bobertuk wrote: I was concerned about scanning music files on LMS being slow because of disc I/O being compromised by a slow USB connection but that appears not to be the case. You mention a SATA to eSATA adapter - do you mean a simple cable adapter or something else? Bob Scanning music files doesn't actually involve reading the whole file. That would take forever! LMS merely pulls off the tag and any associated artwork which is only a few kB per track. My impression in the past has been that slowness in scanning was down to manipulation of that data before storing it in the SQL database. Richard Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Reeshar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35996 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
Reeshar wrote: Scanning music files doesn't actually involve reading the whole file. That would take forever! LMS merely pulls off the tag and any associated artwork which is only a few kB per track. My impression in the past has been that slowness in scanning was down to manipulation of that data before storing it in the SQL database. Richard Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk I can confirm that LMS scanning through a USB connection is quite fast. I build a self contained music system based on CSOS and a Wandboard Dual. It contains a USB to SATA converter for the internal hard drive. Works very well. More info 'here' (http://www.msqueeze.co.nf/). 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard Dual behind the bedroom ceiling 1 x Wandboard Dual for 'msqueeze' (http://www.msqueeze.co.nf/index.html) project ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPhone. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
Will MOG shut down? Yes. After April 15th, MOG will no longer be available in the US. Monthly billing will stop on March 15th and yearly subscriptions will be refunded on a prorated basis. And there you have it. 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/waynefullerton/) wpf7's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
wpf7 wrote: Will MOG shut down? Yes. After April 15th, MOG will no longer be available in the US. Monthly billing will stop on March 15th and yearly subscriptions will be refunded on a prorated basis. And there you have it. Right, except that excerpt omits the part about the new service that is replacing MOG. See http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100758-Goodbye!p=768656#post768656 for more info. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
Hm, call me a cynic, but that human curated music part is the one I like the least, it sounds like we will try to bring the old 'record companies buy their way to user's ears' business model back to the modern age' I do listen to music curated by actual humans I know and trust - my friends with a taste as well as music blogs - and all I need for that are services with an open API so that these people can openly share links. Something currently delivered by SoundCloud and Spotify. For this reason already MOG - who where asking for an NDA to allow me to share their links, probably the reason nobody ever does it - was a brain-dead service from my POV and probably one of the reasons they failed. --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
Just got this from Beats Music: Thanks sincerely for your loyalty to MOG. It means everything to us that you stuck with us while we created the next generation of streaming music services, Beats Music, using the great foundation of the MOG team and product. As you may know, Beats purchased MOG more than a year ago because we too were in love with its fidelity, simplicity, and mobile capabilities. Our goal was to go a step beyond where MOG or any other service had gone, to be more than a server, to be of service to the listener. We wanted to build an app that helped us discover music the way we discover music, through trusted curators, but that uses computers for what they#8217;re good at, personalizing an experience to bring the right song, right now. The result is Beats Music, an app now available for *iPhone, Android, Windows Mobile, Web, and Sonos*, an app that not only has all the on-demand subscription features you came to love in MOG but also more ways to find the right song to listen to right now than any other app on the planet. With Beats Music you should always be one hand and a maximum of five seconds away from something great to listen to without needing to think or type in a search box. If you#8217;d like to search or build your own playlist, please do. But on those many moments when you#8217;re looking for a quick fix, Beats Music delivers. My reply: Dear Mr. Rogers There is a substantial group of MOG subscribers who chose the MOG service because of a smart decision that MOG made a couple of years back. This decision was to provide a way to interface the MOG service with the Logitech Squeezebox music server system that would provide control and listening through the Squeezebox hardware. Basically it was a plug in that could be activated in the users local server (computer) that then allowed you to access MOG directly through any Squeezebox in your house. MOG did this at the request of Squeezebox users and we have remained loyal. When MOG goes dark, I suspect this capability will not extend to Beats music. If that is correct, then that entire group of MOG users will switch to the only other service with 320k files that is Squeezebox accessible. And that service is Spotify. I don#8217;t even know if it#8217;s possible for Beats to create such an interface today, because Logitech#8217;s support of the Squeezebox architecture has suffered dramatically. Still, there#8217;s a huge universe of these network streamers worldwide and a lot of people loved listening to MOG over them. Maybe you can check with your network group to see what plans there are (if any) to keep these customers. Thanks for your consideration. John S. A loyal MOG listener Can't say we didn't try! jmsent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
wpf7 wrote: Will MOG shut down? Yes. After April 15th, MOG will no longer be available in the US. Monthly billing will stop on March 15th and yearly subscriptions will be refunded on a prorated basis. And there you have it. Yeah one of the reasons I switched to Spotify is because of Triode's Spotify plugin .I switched about a year ago because I knew this was gonna happen jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LUA dev docs?
cparker wrote:
Hi,
Are there any LUA docs around for LMS? Or is it a case of trying to
unravel the source code on the Touch?
I've done a search but couldn't find anything helpful
Cheers
It's probably easiest to start with the DoomsDay applet example which is
documented on the wiki if you want to learn some lua.
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Applet_Guide
I'm not 100% sure the sample is accurate, but I think it should be
reasonably correct if you want to start learning.
Erland Isaksson ('My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info))
(Developer of 'many plugins/applets (both free and commercial)'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/User:Erland).
If you like to encourage future presence on this forum and/or third
party plugin/applet development, 'consider purchasing some plugins'
(http://license.isaksson.info))
You may also want to try my Android apps 'Squeeze Display'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.squeezedisplay)
and 'RSS Photo Show'
(https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.isaksson.rssphotoshow)
*Interested in the future of music streaming ? 'ickStream - A world of
music at your fingertips'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98467-Pre-Announcement-ickStreamp=743516)*.
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Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
pippin wrote: Hm, call me a cynic, but that human curated music part is the one I like the least, it sounds like we will try to bring the old 'record companies buy their way to user's ears' business model back to the modern age' I do listen to music curated by actual humans I know and trust - my friends with a taste as well as music blogs - and all I need for that are services with an open API so that these people can openly share links. Something currently delivered by SoundCloud and Spotify. For this reason already MOG - who where asking for an NDA to allow me to share their links, probably the reason nobody ever does it - was a brain-dead service from my POV and probably one of the reasons they failed. Yes ,yes and yes. jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
If you want Beats Music to get the message to support Squeezebox, send them an email. The address is hi @ beatsmusic.com The more people they hear from, the higher creating the integration will become on their to do list. Do it now while it's on your mind. maxmingus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62402 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
I did read somewhere but can't remember where, that Beats do intend to have an open API, just not straight away. This could be good for a potential 3rd party plugin in the future. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
maxmingus wrote: If you want Beats Music to get the message to support Squeezebox, send them an email. The address is hi @ beatsmusic.com The more people they hear from, the higher creating the integration will become on their to do list. Do it now while it's on your mind. That is what I did, and I copied the response here a few posts up. I agree. The more they hear from us, the more inclined they will be to take action. I'm just concerned it won't be possible due to lack of resources on the Logitech side of the equation. jmsent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
iPeng 7.0.2 finally reached the App Store. The update - fixes some artwork issues, you no longer have to open Albums to make sure album artwork gets correctly loaded - greatly improves the scrolling performance. Some of the system blur effects (not the ones on the NowPlaying screen) are removed which helps a lot with performance, also, a bug killing scrolling performance with synced players on iPad is fixed in 7.0.2 - has a better compatibility with VoiceOver. It's still not as good as the old iPeng versions here, especially on iPad, the more flexible UI makes this much kore difficult, but it's getting closer. - fixes a startup bug on iPhone 4 where the play - finally brings back the Preserve Connection setting some have missed in iPeng 7 - features a new, extended URL calling scheme to integrate iPeng with other Apps, for example for whole house control Apps. https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/wiki/URLScheme - and finally: again, features a number of new icons. Have fun! --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
pippin wrote: iPeng 7.0.2 finally reached the App Store. The update - fixes some artwork issues, you no longer have to open Albums to make sure album artwork gets correctly loaded - greatly improves the scrolling performance. Some of the system blur effects (not the ones on the NowPlaying screen) are removed which helps a lot with performance, also, a bug killing scrolling performance with synced players on iPad is fixed in 7.0.2 - has a better compatibility with VoiceOver. It's still not as good as the old iPeng versions here, especially on iPad, the more flexible UI makes this much kore difficult, but it's getting closer. - fixes a startup bug on iPhone 4 where the play - finally brings back the Preserve Connection setting some have missed in iPeng 7 - features a new, extended URL calling scheme to integrate iPeng with other Apps, for example for whole house control Apps. https://trac.penguinlovesmusic.de/trac/ipengnat/wiki/URLScheme - and finally: again, features a number of new icons. Have fun! Wauw, you have been very busy! Just installed the update. First thing I notice is that there is a lot of album art flickering going on. Even images who are already on the screen rapidly flicker until all images are loaded. 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard Dual behind the bedroom ceiling 1 x Wandboard Dual for 'msqueeze' (http://www.msqueeze.co.nf/index.html) project ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPhone. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
It's not until all images are loaded but until the whole table is loaded (the list of albums) so it will get better once that's cached. It's actually the result of a fix for another problem (the index bar often being missing) looks like _that_ fix deserves more tweaking... --- learn more about iPeng, the iPhone and iPad remote for the Squeezebox and Logitech UE Smart Radio as well as iPeng Party, the free Party-App, at penguinlovesmusic.com *New: iPeng 7, the Universal App for iOS 7* pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
pippin wrote: It's not until all images are loaded but until the whole table is loaded (the list of albums) so it will get better once that's cached. It's actually the result of a fix for another problem (the index bar often being missing) looks like _that_ fix deserves more tweaking... Well, it is not a show stopper for me. I just noticed the flickering at first use and thought I would mention it. It seems that the flickering behavior goes away after a while (table loaded). On a positive note, the images appear a lot faster now. I guess that is the most important part. 1 x SB3, 1 x SB Boom, 1 x SB Radio and 2 x SB Touch - all wireless 1 x Wandboard Dual behind the bedroom ceiling 1 x Wandboard Dual for 'msqueeze' (http://www.msqueeze.co.nf/index.html) project ReadyNAS NVX running LMS 7.7.3. w iTunes plugin iPeng 7 on iPhone. SqueezePad iPeng 7 on iPad. http://www.last.fm/user/phibon Pascal Hibon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7969 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [Announce] iPeng 7, the iOS 7 Squeezebox App for iPhone and iPad
Pippin thanks for the update, really improved performance in so may ways, much faster, gocubs42's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47125 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100515 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Moved music folder - how to tell iTunes?
I moved my music folder to my NAS a while back. All is well from a Squeeze standpoint. However, I was running Itunes on my PC with music on the PC. So now iTunes cannot find the music. If I re-load my library using iTunes, then it will also want to re-copy all my music to my Ipods. Bad idea.. I found that the music location is defined in the iTunes Music Library.xml file, so changed the path statements in all of those, but this does not fix it. All of the web searches yield solutions to get iTunes to move the music, or to move the library loacation, whereas what I need to do update the iTunes libray with the new pointers. There is a file called iTunes Library.itl which is an iTunes database file, and I suspect is created from the xml file. I am sure some other forum members must have had the same issue, so any advice would be welcomed. yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100806 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moved music folder - how to tell iTunes?
I haven't used iTunes in a long time, but I recall there was a place in the preferences boxes where a user may set the library location. All without messing with configuration files that are meant to hold the settings, not be manually edited. Naturally, you should have your NAS share mounted on your PC before you try directing iTunes there for your music library. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100806 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moved music folder - how to tell iTunes?
Yes, you can tell it where the library is, but if the music files are not stored in the iTunes library (there is no way i would let iTunes manage my music files/tags/structure) then the library basically just has a pointer to the physical location of the music file (this is an entry for each and every music file). This is in addition to a lot for metadata about each music track. So.. I am not moving the iTunes library, but I have moved the music which the itunes library records point to. I have discovered that the .itl file appears to be the master, and that it creates the xml file when itunes loads - so changing the xml file with a different location is futile because it just creates a new one at the next startup.. yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100806 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech SqueezeBox replacement for under $30
paulster wrote: Here's how I do it: cd /usr/sbin rm squeezelite-armv5te wget http://squeezelite.googlecode.com/files/squeezelite-armv5te chmod 755 squeezelite-armv5te mv squeezelite squeezelite.old mv squeezelite-armv5te squeezelite reboot If anything goes wrong you have your existing version left as squeezelite.old Worked perfectly now my VAMPbox sounds much better and responds better. Thanks so much. Dirk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3750 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97721 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Moved music folder - how to tell iTunes?
Sorry for the mixup. I meant that you could tell iTunes where the _files_ are stored (to me, the library is the tracks, not the metadata/catalog, which is what you are calling the library). In other words, within the iTunes interface you could set that pointer to the directory branch containing the music files. Maybe that's no longer the case with newer versions of iTunes. Do you need iTunes for anything other than loading iPods? If not, the shortcut to sanity would be to use one of the iTunes alternatives and cut iTunes out of the equation all together. On Windows, CopyTrans Manager is great for loading iPods sans iTunes. Sorry I couldn't be more help, but I expect another iTunes-using forum member will have an answer for you. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100806 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Beats Music to replace MOG..Where does that leave Squeezebox?
I wrote to them as well, pointing out that I'd simply be moving to Spotify rather than giving Beats a chance if they aren't going to continue support for Squeezebox. My vote alone won't count for much, but hopefully lots of people will get in touch with them. Two track 1's and no track 2 after a scan for new and changed? Please vote for serious scanning bug '17782' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17782) Receiver stuck at blue LED state after reboot? Please vote for bug '17462' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17462) paulster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23073 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100477 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
