Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
philippe_44 wrote: then I'll see how to hack Squeezelite and a simple streamer. Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http streaming Flac only streaming MP3 and possibly other lossy audio. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
philippe_44 wrote: In fact, I was thinking that is I can get a multiple instance of SqueezeLite, all feeding different streams connected to Sonos controller, it might be an interesting solution. In other words SqueezeLite:1 == Stream:1 == Sonos device:1 SqueezeLite:2 == Stream:2 == Sonos device:2 .. . . . SqueezeLite:N == Stream:N == Sonos device:N So, from LMS, each Sonos device would be a separated SqueezeLite entity, so it would be independently controllable as far as volume and what is played on to it. From Sonos controller, what is needed is to play a different stream on each device. Synchronization is not likely to work, but it can be achieved by connecting multiple Sonos devices to a single stream Sorry, am I missing something here? It seems to me what's being proposed is a way of using Sonos devices as Squeezeboxes, and getting them properly integrated into LMS. Why would anyone do that? Why would they use expensive Sonos devices to emulate what can be built for a fraction of the cost using things like RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc? Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
cliveb wrote: Why would anyone do that? Why would they use expensive Sonos devices to emulate what can be built for a fraction of the cost using things like RaspPi/Odroid/Wandboard/etc? Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezster - A remote control for the Nokia N900 (Maemo)
I'm still using Squeezter on a Nokia N9 connecting to LMS 9.1. It's sometimes slow but great that it still works. stuarty's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32294 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87605 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
bpa wrote: Probably no need to hack squeezelite as it already does output to stdout and has been used in other threads to pipe audio into other applications. In this case possibly VLC but it does not support http streaming Flac only streaming MP3 and possibly other lossy audio. That's what I'm doing now for test. I started with FFmpeg to directly do RTP but unfortunately Sonos does not support RTP. So I will either use FFServer or VLC. But, for going beyond just the test that would proove feasibility, I was more concerned about the CPU required by multiple transcoding, i.e Squeezelite decoding then VLC re-coding, that x times number of streams ... pretty inefficient, no ? philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
bpa wrote: Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security Exactly - this is about transition. SOmetimes, you'll go native Sonos, but not at the begining. I agree that if the objective is to keep LMS for ever and for a guy that like tinkering, this is not an issue - but most users don't want to do that philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
philippe_44 wrote: That's what I'm doing now for test. I started with FFmpeg to directly do RTP but unfortunately Sonos does not support RTP. So I will either use FFServer or VLC. But, for going beyond just the test that would proove feasibility, I was more concerned about the CPU required by multiple transcoding, i.e Squeezelite decoding then VLC re-coding, that x times number of streams ... pretty inefficient, no ? If mp3 is acceptable, the simplest way would be to point the sonos devices to http://lmsserver:9000/stream.mp3 (see 'here' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Remote_streaming) for details) [ extGUI4LMS - an alternative web interface: 'forum' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?98186-Announce-Alternative-Web-Interface-(beta)) / 'homepage' (http://code.google.com/p/extgui4lms/) ] Roland0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56808 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
kipeta wrote: CHANGES ON THE SEPTEMBER 16TH 2014 VERSION: - Player control application on local UI (optional) - File manager tool in web interface - Kernel upgrade to the latest stable version 3.16.2 - Power saving improvements (eg. dynamic CPU frequency option) - Other minor changes (eg. RAM Disk) - Bug fixes Update via your Daphile web UI or download from www.daphile.com. Any feedback is warmly welcomed! Previous release (Sep 16th 2014) had a bug related to CIFS mounting when a username is used. It is now fixed and the new version is available. Kimmo www.daphile.com kipeta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
I'm not going to upgrade to LMS7.9 yet. 7.9 has quite a lot changes all the time. Is it stable already?. Not stable as in officially declared stable. But while you're correct, there are quite some changes every now and then, overall I'd consider it pretty stable. I can't remember the last crash. A hiccup now and then, which I'm usually trying to fix asap. I actually haven't had time to try it even. What would be the benefits? Faster scanning (very much with larger collections and enough memory), faster web UI browsing, faster Browse Music Folder, some new features like Browse by Album Artist, Browse Random Albums, return of Browse Music Folder while scanning, browse folders without importing them into the database... http://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Logitech/slimserver/public/7.9/Changelog7.html The best LMS ever ;-) -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Web based streaming squeezebox client?
Currently I've been streaming music from my LMS server at my house using the following: Windows 7: Squeezeplay Squeezelite Android: Squeeze Player Orange Squeeze Is there a web client or something that doesn't require installation? For example, my girlfriend asked if she can stream from her computer at work but she doesn't have admin rights to install anything. Is there a java based or html5 based player over a webbrowser to stream to for this? Thanks! kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102146 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web based streaming squeezebox client?
kllngtme wrote: Currently I've been streaming music from my LMS server at my house using the following: Windows 7: Squeezeplay Squeezelite Android: Squeeze Player Orange Squeeze Is there a web client or something that doesn't require installation? For example, my girlfriend asked if she can stream from her computer at work but she doesn't have admin rights to install anything. Is there a java based or html5 based player over a webbrowser to stream to for this? Thanks! Plugin: SoftSqueeze Is a Java app. When enabled (show all 3rd party plugins,) an install dialog is present on the HOME/Extras menu. banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102146 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
bpa wrote: Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security It's not that with LMS, DIY is the only option left. You can employ Android (or iOS) based devices. Getting the client running is as easy as installing an app. It doesn't get much more user-friendly than that IMO. dafiend's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60637 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web based streaming squeezebox client?
banned for life wrote: Plugin: SoftSqueeze Is a Java app. When enabled (show all 3rd party plugins,) an install dialog is present on the HOME/Extras menu. Okay cool. Is there something else that might be more standalone or easier? I don't want to have to give her my login to the server. Plus it gives her access to the LMS server itself and the settings. I don't want it to be messed with by accident or something. kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102146 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web based streaming squeezebox client?
Okay cool. Is there something else that might be more standalone or easier? I don't want to have to give her my login to the server. Plus it gives her access to the LMS server itself and the settings. I don't want it to be messed with by accident or something. How do you want her to use your server without giving her access to it? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Web based streaming squeezebox client?
mherger wrote: Okay cool. Is there something else that might be more standalone or easier? I don't want to have to give her my login to the server. Plus it gives her access to the LMS server itself and the settings. I don't want it to be messed with by accident or something. How do you want her to use your server without giving her access to it? -- MichaelWell, I want her to be able to play music and that's it. haha. So I was just looking for a player. Squeezeplay is a nice interface without getting involved with the server settings. It's more so a player so it's easier for people who have no idea what they are looking at. Otherwise, I'm thinking she might think settings at the bottom is actually settings for her player or something.. I dunno, I don't care if she has the login to the server, I just would rather her only see a player, and not get confused by the actual server settings and stuff. kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102146 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
bpa wrote: Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security Roland0 wrote: If mp3 is acceptable, the simplest way would be to point the sonos devices to http://lmsserver:9000/stream.mp3 (see 'here' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Remote_streaming) for details) Great ! I did not remember that LMS feature. Tried quickly and Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS recognizes the Sonos client - I'll see how sync works (i'not home currently so a bit difficult to listen to the result) but if it works, then it might be more than good enough - Thanks ! philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech invests in the smart home with Harmony remote and hub
https://gigaom.com/2014/09/17/logitech-invests-in-the-smart-home-with-harmony-remote-and-hub/ Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1410276236 @ Wed Sep 10 04:02:02 UTC 2014 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.18.2 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Audio::Scan: 0.95 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radio wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
I use DaPhile on a network connected Atom based pc. It works perfectly playing locally but sometimes there are problems streaming to Squeezelite running on my desktop. I have upgraded Squeezelite to 1.6.4 but still have the same problem. After booting my desktop and starting Squeezelite with: ./squeezelite-x86-64 -n WildDog -z I open DaPhile page and mark a few tunes for play. Nearly every time, after 6 to 8 minutes, The audio stops and I get a puttering noise from my speakers. The only fix is to kill that instance of Squeezelite and start a new one. This problem disappeared with oone of the earlier versions of DaPhile but has been back for a while now. I am not sure though if the problem is with Squeezelite or Daphile. Does anyone have any troubleshooting tips to help find the cause? Daphile Server: Atom MoBo with 4G Ram, 1TB WD HDD, wired network. Desktop: I7 870 on a Gigabyte MoBo with 8G Ram, multiple HDD, onboard sound card, Linux Mint 64bit. Zomby Woof's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=62369 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech invests in the smart home with Harmony remote and hub
Oh, boy. Logitech jumps on another bandwagon. BFD. JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
mherger wrote: Faster scanning (very much with larger collections and enough memory), faster web UI browsing, faster Browse Music Folder, some new features like Browse by Album Artist, Browse Random Albums, return of Browse Music Folder while scanning, browse folders without importing them into the database... -- Michael Sounds good! - I'm ready to help test a Daphile version with LMS 7.9 :D I think Browse Random Albums would become one of my most used features, as exploring your full library in new ways is always fun and often, revealing. pufnstuf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10295 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
kipeta wrote: I'm not going to upgrade to LMS7.9 yet. 7.9 has quite a lot changes all the time. Is it stable already?. I actually haven't had time to try it even. What would be the benefits? For me the benefit would mostly be the better treatment of artists. Nothing pressing, though. Perfectly willing to wait. I am very happy with Daphile as it is, already. vanye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Call for testers! Daphile
kipeta wrote: CHANGES ON THE SEPTEMBER 16TH 2014 VERSION: - Player control application on local UI (optional) - File manager tool in web interface - Kernel upgrade to the latest stable version 3.16.2 - Power saving improvements (eg. dynamic CPU frequency option) - Other minor changes (eg. RAM Disk) - Bug fixes Update via your Daphile web UI or download from www.daphile.com. Any feedback is warmly welcomed! Can you explain about the player control application and the file manager tool? vanye's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech invests in the smart home with Harmony remote and hub
I recently bought the Harmony Hub, including the remote. It's designed primarily as a smartphone app, which is reasonably well designed, but I wanted a remote with buttons to replace my Harmony One. I like having a remote that doesn't have a screen that can break (as occurred with both my Harmony Ones), but the one aggravating negative to the remote that comes with the Hub is there is no backlighting of the keys. It's almost an afterthought, as if everyone is just clamoring to use their iPhones as remotes. I might be tempted to step up to the new remote if they remedied that problem, but otherwise I don't see much of a need for a 'home automation' remote. Although, if I ever upgrade my thermostats to wifi models 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller of choice. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
bpa wrote: Transition strategy - making sure some LMS facilities are still accessible. RE Raspberry etc. alternatives some people only want proper products not DIY perhaps as a sense of security I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand. 2-SB3s, 1-Duet, 1-Touch. Mac Mini as a server. iPeng is my controller of choice. GeeJay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Question about signal strength
What would be the minimal signal strength to provide a stable stream? Is there any way to boost signal strength? I have an SB Boom powering a subwoofer and when it is synced to my main Touch Stereo system I tend to get cut outs. The signal strength for the Boom is between 38 and 43. Is there anything, other than moving the Boom, that I can do to increase the strength? Thank you. Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/LMS V7.7.3; Benchmark DAC1 USB;Marantz Pre-amp; SAE Amplifier;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com;Rhapsody; Sirius.com;CalmRadio Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about signal strength
I have a Touch in the other room currently showing 80% that occasionally drops out. There are many factors at work here including how many other wireless devices are in your household, how many wireless networks are in your local area, and how many are on the same channel as yours. First try changing your wireless channel to 1, 6 or 11. Here are a few other things you can try: 1. Put a 'reflector' (http://urbanwireless.info/antennas/parabolic-reflector) on your wireless router antenna(s) 2. Get some 'high-gain antennas' (http://www.monoprice.com/Product?seq=1format=2p_id=8748aid=cseCA_6C15C=1565856890) for your wireless router 3. Move your wireless router to a position closer to your Boom or one that is higher in elevation 4. Get a new, 'more powerful wireless router' (http://www.amazon.com/RT-N66U-Dual-Band-Wireless-N900-Gigabit-Router/dp/B006QB1RPY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pcie=UTF8qid=1411000866sr=1-1keywords=asus+wireless+router) 5. Install a 'wireless extender/repeater' (http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA850RE-Universal-One-button-Indicator/dp/B00E98O7GC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1411001108sr=8-1keywords=wireless+signal+extender) mid-way between your router and the Boom 6. Use 'Powerline devices' (http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Powerline-XAVB1201-200Mbps-Starter/dp/B008LTPEXU/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronicsie=UTF8qid=1411000901sr=1-4keywords=netgear+powerline) to run a wired connection to your Boom via your electrical grid. They are listed somewhat in order of impact. In my experience if a wireless Squeezebox is operating ok (but unknowingly is close to the signal strength limit) setting it to sync with another unit will push it under the limit. One other thing you can try is to enable bitrate limiting on your Boom (Settings Player (Boom) Audio). MP3 at 192kbps requires just 15% of the bandwidth needed by FLAC. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Question about signal strength
Thank you. Ikabob Squeezebox Touch w/LMS V7.7.3; Benchmark DAC1 USB;Marantz Pre-amp; SAE Amplifier;ESS Heil Speakers(main listening speakers plus various additional speakers). Multiple players: SqueezeBooms,SqueezeRadios; SB3; Services:Slacker;Sky.com;Rhapsody; Sirius.com;CalmRadio Ipeng remote controller. Ikabob's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32088 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102149 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
GeeJay wrote: I'll probably try to figure out all this Raspberry Pi stuff one day, out of necessity, but I try to follow all those threads and I don't understand most of what you guys are talking about. Someone tells me I can plug a box into my stereo system and get music...that I understand. a SB receiver ... and LMS (staying in that line - I guess we do not take about Sonos here) philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Replacement system recommendations
philippe_44 wrote: Great ! I did not remember that LMS feature. Tried quickly and Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS recognizes the Sonos client - I'll see how sync works (i'not home currently so a bit difficult to listen to the result) but if it works, then it might be more than good enough - Thanks ! Bummer ... Sonos recognizes the stream and LMS shows it as a device. That's cool but that device cannot be synchronized. So that's a good start, but the missing sync is making that a less interesting feature than my hardware bridge philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102119 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
