Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Have read the up a bit more on it , it seems like its a high risk that the AES paper behind this is junk science , missunderstanding the Gibbs effect again , using contorted test to fit pre existing beliefs about filter ripple . Their clams are not uncontested. Also evident is that it is a lossy system , this is not lossles anymore . That would not matter much in 24 bit you would not hear that . If you think that the HF content >20kHz is so important that you can scrap the losslesnes of the signal why not use OGG or any other lossy codec that can support 96kHz sample rate . It can be used in 16 bit signals too I can see the interest from the streaming industry , if the format has other properties that facilitates streaming and is lossy ( that would be liked by record companies ) it's good for them . It would be interesting to see if a high end company actually will be able to market a lossy system to audiophiles :) I'll stop ranting about it now . What matters is how the Tidal service will implement this and if and how it will effect the solutions we have for Tidal . It's good to hear that it can be used in flac with probably only an insignificant detoriation of SQ even on non MQA equipment Also if other services will implement it , we might have to deal with it somehow . But if the signal can be like HDCD ignored by equipment not supporting it then we might not need to deal with at all , we have our music anyway . Then the old question about content content and content if there is only a slim selection off audiophile chestnuts it will not succeed . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Good video to learn more about MQA. http://youtu.be/r_wxRGiBoJg I can confirm MQA works with FLAC. R1200CL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Get total playing time with cli
mherger wrote: > > Hi Michael I'm a newbie to the LMS CLI and have only just discovered > the > > API for the Web server ( which is v impressive ) but yes it would be > > What are you referring to as the "web api"? Just use the CLI commands > over /jsonrpc.js. > > -- > > Michael OK I told you I am a newbie - thanks for that - what is Jsonrpc.is ? I assume it's a Remote Procedure Call ? We can't stop here this is bat country. RIP Hunter S Thompson. pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104748 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] LMS and Windows 10?
Using 7.9 latest with Win 10 since Win 10 was released and have had no problems at all. And while 7.9 is 'beta', it is rock solid with many nice features over the earlier versions. Should be no problems with plugins. Mike (1 SB3, 1 Duet, 1 Boom, 2 Touch, 1 Radio & heavy use of iPeng on various iThings) mdconnelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104699 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Get total playing time with cli
mherger wrote: > status 0 10 tags:DD ;) 4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) Squeezebox Server 7.9 (linux) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix, Music Walk With Me, What Was That Tune? by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld ShairTunes2 by disaster123 Local Player, BBC iPlayer by Triode Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104748 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Get total playing time with cli
but yes it would be useful to me as I'm rewriting my documenter to utilise the web api instead of the db I've committed the change to 7.7 onward. status 0 10 tags:DD should return an element "playlist duration" which returns the total playtime in seconds. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Get total playing time with cli
Hi Michael I'm a newbie to the LMS CLI and have only just discovered the API for the Web server ( which is v impressive ) but yes it would be What are you referring to as the "web api"? Just use the CLI commands over /jsonrpc.js. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Mnyb wrote: > OK but then it has to be streamed as 24 bit files Indeed. > LMS or Squeezebox does not even have to be aware . if you keep volume at > 100% the MQA enabled DAC conected to your squeezebox willl find the > secret sauce and do it's thing . > > So to support this nothing have to be done in LMS or the plugin ? Hopefully. Still remains to be seen how it works in practice. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
kidstypike wrote: > Are all your pets called Eric? I wonder if he has a bee (or half a bee :) ) LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > There's nothing so odd about that: Kemal Ataturk had an entire menagerie > called Abdul! Didn't! kidstypike LMS on Raspberry Pi 2 model B/max2play/HiFiBerry DAC+ > AVI DM5 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x Raspberry Pi/max2play/HiFiBerry kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
kidstypike wrote: > Are all your pets called Eric? There's nothing so odd about that: Kemal Ataturk had an entire menagerie called Abdul! "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > My understanding is that it can be, as the additional bits to make your > pet bat Eric happy are hidden as noise in the lowermost bits of a 24-bit > stream or file. But the decision to actually do that is a > commercial/licencing decision... > > > > Just a bit, yes. They make it sound like they have come up with a way to > break the laws of physics, when all they do is use the extra space of a > 24-bit file (as no real recording has any meaningful data in the lowest > bits) to encode HF information. A bit like the good old steganography > programs that hide a secret message in the background noise of picture > files. OK but then it has to be streamed as 24 bit files , embedding in the LSB's of a 16 bit is imho making more damage than god , But the good thing is that if is done in a flac or wav container anything not supporting MQA can just discard the information . LMS or Squeezebox does not even have to be aware . if you keep volume at 100% the MQA enabled DAC conected to your squeezebox willl find the secret sauce and do it's thing . So to support this nothing have to be done in LMS or the plugin ? However an analog out on a RasPI or something ,then someone has to write an player supporting it , to keep the pet bat happy :) eric would not be pleased otherwise. Suppose people want some transcoding solution for their existing Transporter or Touch and its analog out (would be piontless on any other squeezebox as they only do 48k) Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Julf wrote: > ... make your pet bat Eric happy ... Are all your pets called Eric? kidstypike LMS on Raspberry Pi 2 model B/max2play/HiFiBerry DAC+ > AVI DM5 1 x SB3 - 1 x Boom - 1 x (Squeezebox) Radio - 2 x Touch - 2 x Raspberry Pi/max2play/HiFiBerry kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can Raspberry Pi, HiFiBerry, Max2Play, PiCorePlayerOS etc save the Squeezebox system?
Julf wrote: > - it is smaller > - it uses less power > - it is always on > - it doesn't run a legacy closed desktop office operating system - you can add a whole bunch of expensive cables to it Gruss Jan DJanGo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1516 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104714 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Meridian MQA - Breakthrough? LMS possible?
Mnyb wrote: > But can this be embedded in a normal flac or wav file or is it going to > be a special file format? My understanding is that it can be, as the additional bits to make your pet bat Eric happy are hidden as noise in the lowermost bits of a 24-bit stream or file. But the decision to actually do that is a commercial/licencing decision... > MQA marketing is a bit deceptive Just a bit, yes. They make it sound like they have come up with a way to break the laws of physics, when all they do is use the extra space of a 24-bit file (as no real recording has any meaningful data in the lowest bits) to encode HF information. A bit like the good old steganography programs that hide a secret message in the background noise of picture files. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=102648 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can Raspberry Pi, HiFiBerry, Max2Play, PiCorePlayerOS etc save the Squeezebox system?
2string1 wrote: > How can PI be any better then my desktop computer? If you want to string around multiple players around your house or have a really small server . Big clunky desktops are big and noisy and energy consuming so using one as player, nah. Diffrent is the word not better . IF you got a narrow fixation on audio performance they do the "same" here the word is equal , but in small energy efficient package . PI's can be built together with multiple kinds of dacs or external spdiff or USB dacs or digital ouput boards endless possibilities . Just as you can equip a desktop with USB dacs different soundcards etc . So the PI can act as a hardware squeezebox or/and as a tiny server you dump in the closet . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104714 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can Raspberry Pi, HiFiBerry, Max2Play, PiCorePlayerOS etc save the Squeezebox system?
2string1 wrote: > How can PI be any better then my desktop computer? - it is smaller - it uses less power - it is always on - it doesn't run a legacy closed desktop office operating system "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104714 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
