Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread Mastiff

Because a home automation colleague here in Norway who's been using
these boxes for years and years thought it would be the easiest and most
cost effective way of doing it. ;) I asked in a home automation forum
here, and I have asked in several other audio forums before, and nobody
has ever been able to tell me a system that can do exactly what I need.
All other things that can output analogue audio can only output their
own system (Samsung, Philips, Yamaha, Sonos... none of them have a
analogue audio input, good enough sound quality and a price that isn't
in the pro range, like Bluesound, which costs around £500 for the input
node alone and would be around £1700 for a system with two good speakers
or 1100 for one with two merely OK speakers). Of course if you know
something that can work, please let me know! Then I can use that
instead, and just sell the Sqeezebox again, or find something else fun
to use it for.



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Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread Mnyb

But why squeezeboxes ? If your not interested in LMS and it features ?

Sure you can have some other endpiont running on an rpi3 , all Hat dacs
out there are not expensive and you get new stuff not >10 year old
hardware .




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Re: [slim] What are the keyboard controls

2018-01-17 Thread ryangodammit

Paul Webster wrote: 
> Aha - you had already started a new thread.
> 
> To summarise the responses in other posts ... when using a keyboard with
> pCP it is driving Jivelite (the UI).
> 
> The starting point for keyboard usage is as documented for SqueezePlay
> at
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Developers_FAQ
> 
> However, I can see that it is not exactly as described there ... for
> example using a USB attached keyboard the "I" seemed to map to "Power
> Off" rather than "Up".
> 
> Update:
> JiveLite souce from Ralphy's GitHub ...
> https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite
> Take a look at /share/jive/jive/InputToActionMap.lua
> (which does indeed show "i" mapped to "Power" along with the rest)

Awesome thanks Paul. I felt like I was starting to push my luck chasing
you guys around the internet with this. 
I'll research those links and see if I can't get it up and running



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Re: [slim] How to ear vlc or chrome(NETFLIX) or over multimedia reader by LMS (KDE 14.04 lts)

2018-01-17 Thread bpa

thevanihingman wrote: 
> But today WaveInput is not working here (so I am not yet in sync
> issue).
> Do you want to say that the only way is to use waveinput to feed with my
> local players my squeezelite boxes ?

All wavinput does is copy an audio source and feed it as a 44.1Khz PCM
stream into LMS.

If your system uses pulseaudio then obtaining the correct "device" to
act a source can be very tricky.
If your system uses ALSA  No pulseaudio) then it is usually
straighforward by using aplay.

Before using wavinput - make sure you have a command that when executed
at a shell prompt under your LMS userid can copy the desired audio
stream into a WAV file.  No point using Wavinput until you have such a
command.



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread ToddeSwe

pippin wrote: 
> Well, working on a big redesign right now so all feedback welcome!


I just want you to think on one thing when you redesign it, BIG
userfriendly buttons as well as a lot of options as it have now.
Long press and hold on the eg Radio Station logo will bring up your own
designed menu with things you use the most...



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread pippin

Well, working on a big redesign right now so all feedback welcome!



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread ToddeSwe

pippin wrote: 
> Yes. So definitely consider me biased!!

Ha ha ha 

Nice to meet you! Now we can get to work and improve it. :) 

Looking forward to the update.



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread ToddeSwe

pippin wrote: 
> Wow, I’ll investigate the crash and fix in the next update. Which device
> and iOS version is this?

I've missed something here, you are the guy who makes this app?! :)

It's iPhone 7 and latest iOS 11.2.2



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Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread Mastiff

Actually wifi has a range that's 10 times that of BT, at least regular
consumer units, so there's no reason wifi shouldn't work (which I've
already said it does - I never said that wifi was blocked!) in the room
even if I can't get BT to work reliably. Long speaker cables is, as I
said, my regular way of doing this, but there's nothing going through
the walls or floor in those rooms, and the ceiling is not practical.

As for getting the audio, that was my question, but I'll see when I get
a couple of these things running.



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread pippin

ToddeSwe wrote: 
> I've missed something here, you are the guy who makes this app?! :)
> 
> It's iPhone 7 and latest iOS 11.2.2

Yes. So definitely consider me biased!!



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread pippin

Wow, I’ll investigate the crash and fix in the next update. Which device
and iOS version is this?



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Re: [slim] What app for controlling Squeezbox Radio?

2018-01-17 Thread ToddeSwe

No, it's not. Sleep timer is one long-press on the big "pause" button in
iPeng, can't get it much easier :)
The small pause button at the top of the screen will do, too, but you
won't reach that with a thumb. But it means: wherever you are in iPeng,
sleep timer is always directly accessible.

Hi and thanks, but when i press the pause button as you describes it
terminates itself and i have to restart it. I've tried the small button
as well wit the same result.


Also ... even if you use the menu iPeng has one click less than
Logitech's App, that one was four clicks, iPeng is three (bring down
player list, tap "i", select "sleep"; and that's from wherever you are
in the app)

That was nice! :) Much better! Thanks!


So I think iPeng is actually pretty thumb-cruising friendly...

You may have a point here. :)

SlimLibrary is completely inconsistent here. In some menus swiping back
works in others it doesn't, even from the left edge.
Thanks for your help!



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Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread bpa

You have two issues.

Your original question was about multiple instances and I think
waveinput will still work but it will depend on the sources allowing the
command to get the audio (e.g. aplay).  Windows source may be different.


Your second problem was how to get a radio signal through 3 walls - if
the walls block wifi they will also block Bluetooth. So asI seeit, your
choice is 
1. have player connecting to speaker using long audio leads.
2. Have player very close to speaker and using homeplug over power
supply so that player can be networked on existing wiring.

I also live in an old hgouse with brock walls. I use a meshed wifi
(Orbi) in conjunction homeplug to deliver  networking to awkward rooms.
Placing wifi router/slave so that doors and windows are in the signal
path or reflected paths - avoiding paths through multiple walls/chimney
breasts..



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Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread Mastiff

I guess my question is to unusual to have any definitive answers. I have
bought a used V3 which should arrive either Friday or after the weekend,
so I'll go from there, with a test setup.



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Re: [slim] How to ear vlc or chrome(NETFLIX) or over multimedia reader by LMS (KDE 14.04 lts)

2018-01-17 Thread thevanihingman

bpa wrote: 
> Waveinput will not normally work with video as audio and video will be
> out of sync due to different network paths.
> 
> The only way to make it work is to use somehting like mplayer and to
> manually tell mplayer to alter the time gap between audio and video
> stream and even then sync may not be good.

Hi,

VLC can manage this very well too. 
But today WaveInput is not working here (so I am not yet in sync
issue).
Do you want to say that the only way is to use waveinput to feed with my
local players my squeezelite boxes ?

BR.



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Re: [slim] How to ear vlc or chrome(NETFLIX) or over multimedia reader by LMS (KDE 14.04 lts)

2018-01-17 Thread bpa

Waveinput will not normally work with video as audio and video will be
out of sync due to different network paths.

The only way to make it work is to use somehting like mplayer and to
manually tell mplayer to alter the time gap between audio and video
stream and even then sync may not be good.



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[slim] How to ear vlc or chrome(NETFLIX) or over multimedia reader by LMS (KDE 14.04 lts)

2018-01-17 Thread thevanihingman

Hi,

I have try with waveinput without success.
But read somewhere in this forum than waveinput for doing this is only
the last thing to do.
Could any body help me ?

I have Kubuntu 14.04 LTS (upgraded) with last LMS, Chrome(Netflix), VLC,
Audacity, ...
I will really appreciate to be able to use LMS as sound output of
Chrome(Netflix, Youtube), VLC, (and if possible Audacity, ...).

Is it possible to do this without waveinput ?
How ?

Thanks for your help,
Sylvain.



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Re: [slim] What are the keyboard controls

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Webster

Aha - you had already started a new thread.

To summarise the responses in other posts ... when using a keyboard with
pCP it is driving Jivelite (the UI).

The starting point for keyboard usage is as documented for SqueezePlay
at
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezePlay_Developers_FAQ

However, I can see that it is not exactly as described there ... for
example using a USB attached keyboard the "I" seemed to map to "Power
Off" rather than "Up".



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Re: [slim] Can I use several Squeezebox with several instances of the WaveInput plugin?

2018-01-17 Thread bpa

Does this system partially exisst now ? or is this part of a design
exercise ?
Do you understand how a Squeezebox actually works and its relationship
to LMS?
Do you have a LMS ? Are you trying to use Squeezbox player without an
LMS ?
What are your Squeezebox player e.g. Sb3, SB Classic, RPi3 ??

if power is available in the bathroom. The Squeezbox player (e.g. rpi3)
could be located very close to the speakers in bathroom with network
connection to LMS server over homeplug.



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Re: [slim] Smart people will stay with Squeezebox

2018-01-17 Thread Redrum

+1 Great Thread. I echo the thanks not only to the many contributors of
their time and expertise, but to the entire community, because, if were
not for this family, support could have dwindled.

My story. Despite the "junior member" (low number of posts, I'm more of
a reader), I have put my years in, and my addiction has grown. I have
owned, and loved audio gear and music since the mid seventies. LPs, a
shot stint of 8-tracks, cassettes, then CD's. In 2009 I bought my first
duet for the sole purpose of ripping my collection and ease of playback
from my library. Pretty narrow objective as I found out...

..Then I discovered internet radio, including Radio Paradise, Pear,
Fuzzy and Groovy, and many morewowit's probably 75% of my
listening now.

...Then I started thinking of multi room capabilities, and that grew. I
now have 5 receivers, 2 controllers, and of course an android app

...I was intrigued by a touch for convenience and the audio improvement,
I now have one of those in my main listening room

...I retired a couple years ago (well, my company decided to buy my
retirement :rolleyes:) and I bought a run down cabin/camp on a small
lake in the woods in Northern New York to renovate. DSL was available
(yes!). I didn't want a stack of gear ("roughing it"), so I bought my
first boom, pretty beat up and "sticky". Wow, what a wonderful product
and perfect for the setting. I then found a nicer Boom, bought that, and
relegated the sticky boom to the garage/workshop at the camp. I can have
something like Radio Paradise or Pearadio playing and my friends will
say "where did you find this station!!!??? It's awesome!". Of course,
they are used to FM stations.

...Back at home, I have always listened to squeezeplay while in the
office. I realized I didn't have a Squeezebox Radio, so I thought I
would try one, found one, bought it. What an excellent product for the
desktop usage pattern. A hybrid of the radio UI and the boom audio would
be a neat product. I can dream...

so, that's 5 receivers, 2 controllers, one touch, radio in one house,
and 2 booms at the camp. Sound like I have an addiction? If so it's a
fun one. 

Only one Duet and one receiver bought through retail channels, the rest
on the secondary market (ebay).

Not once have I ever thought of changing platforms, but I do pray that
the hardware will stand up for many more years...

Again, thanks to all and long live the squeeze!

Jim



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Re: [slim] IMPORTANT: Stop forwarding your LMS ports to the internet!

2018-01-17 Thread ian_heys

mherger wrote: 
> >
> I think if you're using VPN to access your LMS at home, then you're on 
> the safe side. Nothing to log or investigate.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks Michael.



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Re: [slim] Smart people will stay with Squeezebox

2018-01-17 Thread thomashenrydavies

£350 for a Sonos Connect vs £35 for an RiPi with Squeezebox. 

No contest! Plus, the system does more (even if Sonos is good in some
ways).



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Re: [slim] IMPORTANT: Stop forwarding your LMS ports to the internet!

2018-01-17 Thread Michael Herger

I have been following, but not fully understanding this thread, for
quite a while and thought I'd better ask the question.


I think if you're using VPN to access your LMS at home, then you're on 
the safe side. Nothing to log or investigate.


--

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Re: [slim] Jivelite for Windows

2018-01-17 Thread Paul Webster

ryangodammit wrote: 
> 
> I've been searching around, and as far as I can tell, Windows jivelite
> is the only one with working keyboard control. I've got a MS multimedia
> keyboard which has some keys that work, but I'd love to have the ability
> to use all of those, and configure them how I want
> 
> Ryan

I have just tried a Microsoft Comfort Curve (has media control keys)
with pCP and it worked well.
The keys are not exactly as shown at the start of this thread, for
example the "i" key appears to function as Power Off.
But volume up/down and Mute worked (the Play/Pause key does not work but
can use Spacebar for that).

So ... how about starting a completely new thread about keyboard control
of JiveLite and can discuss it further there.



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Re: [slim] IMPORTANT: Stop forwarding your LMS ports to the internet!

2018-01-17 Thread ian_heys

I have been using my Synology NAS, which sits behind my cable TV router,
as a VPN Server for connections to my LAN from remote locations.

The only use I have for this is for using LMS/Player combinations,
usually but not exclusively on my Android Phone, on the rare occasions
that I am away from home.

The only port that is open on my router is that which is required by the
Synology NAS VPN plugin and this port is forwarded by my cable TV
router.

I have been following, but not fully understanding this thread, for
quite a while and thought I'd better ask the question.

I'm not sure I'm up to setting up and understanding all the logging that
is needed to examine this issue and it wouldn't be too much of a wrench
for me to simply stop doing this as I must admit my use is rather more
experimental than useful.

My only significant discovery has been that my free hospital wifi blocks
the Synology VPN port and I have to revert to a 4G phone connection
which can be expensive if used for any significant time.



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with synced music drive.
*Homeplug LAN Players: *Pi 3B piCorePlayer v3.22/HDMI/Jivelite,
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*UPNP Wifi Players:* Chromecast Audio/Video, Revo Super-Connect Radio,
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