Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread slartibartfast


Man in a van wrote: 
> As referenced in post #15
> 
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109713-Squeezebox-suddenly-stopped-working-help-please=924839=1#post924839Absolutely.

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread Man in a van


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Exactly that. When Logitech brought out the Revue which streamed Audio
> and Video they changed the name to Logitech Media Server. You can find
> the latest version here.
> 
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9
> 
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As referenced in post #15

https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109713-Squeezebox-suddenly-stopped-working-help-please=924839=1#post924839



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread slartibartfast


NE5 wrote: 
> maybe that is right, I initially left it alone as I was so relieved it
> just worked, but I've also came to a similar conclusion. 
> 
> Are you saying that SB server BECAME Logitech Media Server ? I must
> admit, I hadn't thought of that. I thought they were 2 seperate entities
> performing different functions. It wasn't me who installed Squeezebox
> onto my computer 3 years ago. I WAS going to install the new version
> anyway, I looked on the logitech site for the newest version but
> couldn't find anything so I input the SB exe file first (and as I said
> it worked).Exactly that. When Logitech brought out the Revue which streamed 
> Audio
and Video they changed the name to Logitech Media Server. You can find
the latest version here.

http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


slartibartfast wrote: 
> What do you mean you have installed Sqieezebox software not Logitech
> Media software? Surely you want to install LMS 7.9.2 which is the latest
> and greatest. That would explain why it is 7.5.6.
> 
> Edit. If you originally had Squeezebox Server and then installed
> Logitech Media Server then Squeezebox Server would have been replaced by
> LMS. 
> 
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maybe that is right, I initially left it alone as I was so relieved it
just worked, but I've also came to a similar conclusion. 

Are you saying that SB server BECAME Logitech Media Server ? I must
admit, I hadn't thought of that. I WAS going to install the new version
anyway, I looked on the logitech site for the newest version but
couldn't find anything so I input the SB exe file first (and as I said
it worked).



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread alfista


Man in a van wrote: 
> I have run LMS from all types of Windows OS with just the default
> firewall and Microsoft anti-virus without these sort of problems.
> 
> i have never had need of a static IP or anything else. Just kept it
> plain a simple without programs like Avast, Zone Alarm or CCC which have
> all caused me grief in one way or the other.
Agreed. Currently don't have it running on any windows machine but never
had to jump through any hoops when I did. Just the default stuff and it
never missed a beat.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread slartibartfast


NE5 wrote: 
> I've uninstalled Avast, installed MSE, as Man In A Van said, restored my
> windows firewall, uninstalled the squeezebox software reinstalled it and
> it is all running properly.
> 
> I'm very puzzled by a few issues though. 
> 
> How did it run perfectly, or mostly, for nearly 3 years with AVast and a
> windows firewall ? Why is it not running 7.7.6 anymore but instead
> running 7.5.6.I am getting the bubble again saying an update is
> available but for the moment I don't think I'll bother thanksbut
> I'll do it in a few days or so now I've set this up again I have more
> knowledge so I know if it messes up I can put it right but I have a
> feeling it will be fine.
> 
> I couldn't possibly have left my firewall open all day with my hifi on
> so I am really pleased it seems that the new config is working and now
> that I have MSE I will stick to it too. MSE might not have a "bank mode"
> like Avast free version does but it is giving me real time protection
> instead, and everything is working.
> 
> Thank you to everybody for all the advice and help so far.
> 
> One other thing, is that I have installed the squeezebox software but
> not the Logitech Media software. Previously I used them both, but it
> worked using the squeezebox only so I'm leaving it alone for the moment.
> I would have installed both programmes but the SB programme came on as
> soon as I input my audio tracks into it.What do you mean you have installed 
> Sqieezebox software not Logitech
Media software? Surely you want to install LMS 7.9.2 which is the latest
and greatest. That would explain why it is 7.5.6.

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


I've uninstalled Avast, installed MSE, as Man In A Van said, restored my
windows firewall, uninstalled the squeezebox software reinstalled it and
it is all running properly.

I'm very puzzled by a few issues though. 

How did it run perfectly, or mostly, for nearly 3 years with AVast and a
windows firewall ? Why is it not running 7.7.6 anymore but instead
running 7.5.6.I am getting the bubble again saying an update is
available but for the moment I don't think I'll bother thanksbut
I'll do it in a few days or so now I've set this up again I have more
knowledge so I know if it messes up I can put it right but I have a
feeling it will be fine.

I couldn't possibly have left my firewall open all day with my hifi on
so I am really pleased it seems that the new config is working and now
that I have MSE I will stick to it too. 

Thank you to everybody for all the advice and help so far.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread Man in a van


Steve, as yet you have not confirmed if Windows firewall is the source
of your problem.

Apparently you are still running Avast.

Have you yet uninstalled  Avast (not disable) rebooted and then run with
the default Windows firewall and MSE.

It seems to me you are approaching the problem from the wrong end.

I have run LMS from all types of Windows OS with just the default
firewall and Microsoft anti-virus without these sort of problems.

i have never had need of a static IP or anything else. Just kept it
plain a simple without programs like Avast, Zone Alarm or CCC which have
all caused me grief in one way or the other.

ronnie



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread Paul Webster


On a similar track ...
If you remove LMS from the firewall, set LMS to not restart on boot ...
then reboot and then when stabilised ... start LMS.
The firewall might then prompt to allow access.
Then set LMS to auto start (ready for the next boot).



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread bpa


NE5 wrote: 
> I've got to do something and I see this as a bit drastic but I've been
> thinking about that too and don't really think I have much choice. I
> can't leave my firewall down every time I put the hifi on.

Less drastic is to delete the LMS specific entries and then create new
entries with new executables - needs more preparation but overall less
work.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


bpa wrote: 
> Typo - I was in a hurry - fingers were faster than my brain  -"in case
> something is cached"   Windows caches executables for fast startup.

I've got to do something and I see this as a bit drastic but I've been
thinking about that too and don't really think I have much choice. I
can't leave my firewall down every time I put the hifi on.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread bpa


NE5 wrote: 
> what does "Reboot the system in cache something is cached". mean ?

Typo - I was in a hurry - fingers were faster than my brain  -"in case
something is cached"   Windows caches executables for fast startup.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You could turn off Windows Firewall and install Zonealarm instead.
> 
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I used to use Zonealarm years ago, when I first started using the
internet ie in the days of 56k dialups etc probably. It was quite good
and tbh this thought has crossed my mind.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


bpa wrote: 
> I don;t use Windows on a daily basis - only to test plugin so I can't
> say if that file is the right one unless you show the full directory
> path.
> 
> If you want to be thorough.
> 1. Uninstall LMS using LMS uninstall facility
> 2. Delete all LMS and Squeezeserv stuff in the firewall
> 3. Reboot the system in cache something is cached.
> 4. Install LMS - why use an old version ? why not 7.9.2 ?   For example,
> 7.7.6 may not able to fully handle HTTPS stream or URLs and so you may
> get "odd" errors.

what does "Reboot the system in cache something is cached". mean ?



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread slartibartfast


You could turn off Windows Firewall and install Zonealarm instead.

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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread bpa


NE5 wrote: 
> I also found this, which must be when I did the update, it can't be
> anything else.
> 
> Do you think I could remove the entries in the firewall, re run this
> installation, or restore old version 7.7.6 
> 
> 25999

I don;t use Windows on a daily basis - only to test plugin so I can't
say if that file is the right one unless you show the full directory
path.

If you want to be thorough.
1. Uninstall LMS using LMS uninstall facility
2. Delete all LMS and Squeezeserv stuff in the firewall
3. Reboot the system in cache something is cached.
4. Install LMS - why use an old version ? why not 7.9.2 ?   For example,
7.7.6 may not able to fully handle HTTPS stream or URLs and so you may
get "odd" errors.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


I also found this, which must be when I did the update, it can't be
anything else.


25999


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Re: [slim] Tidal - problem with HIFi subscription not playing FLAC

2018-11-15 Thread jamesrfisher


Paul Webster wrote: 
> Is it too old to have the upgrade
> https://www.vortexbox.org/forum/main-forum/789-squeezebox-server-7-9-1-for-vortexbox
> or is the problem that update would wipe your local music?

I am running an old version of Vortexbox, possibly 1.6, not upgraded to
v2 at all as beyond my know-how, even if an upgrade wiped my music I
have it backed up on an external USB drive. At the time i purchased I
was considering a NAS but went for Vortexbox due to the ripping software
and didn't really consider the expert need for updates etc. Incremental
updates were fine but it was the overhaul that moving to v2 required as,
if I recall, it needed an update to the Linux OS as well.

As regards this comment 'FLAC support was only added in 7.7.x', I assume
that simply relates to the Tidal app running FLAC as my SBT plays FLAC
files from the Vortexbox without any problems.



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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


the first 2 are what I have ticked in my firewall 

25995 

25996



and these 2 photos are files that I have which I could put into my
firewall allow list 

25997

25998


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox suddenly stopped working help please

2018-11-15 Thread NE5


bpa wrote: 
> No you'll need to tell Windows explicitly that LMS is a good
> application.  IIRC the LMS firewall entry is made as part of the install
> process, after you delete you need to manually add a "new rule" for a
> program and then detail the LMS executable.
> 
> Before deleting the current LMS rule or rules  - look in detail at how
> the LMS rule is currently setup - it should be something like Genral Tab
> - "allow Logitech media server to accept inbound connections" and other
> tabs may be fairly lax (i.e. all ports).  Then you'll know how to
> re-create the rule.

I went into the windows firewall settings, "allow a program or feature
through windows firewall" and it lists all the programs allowed. I
unticked "Logitech Media Server" and "Squeezebox Server" then tried to
make new entries, but neither are in the list in the sub box to create a
new entry,as you just need to click on the program you want to make a
new entry for.

While there, I opened and closed my firewall while the squeezebox was on
and my hifi running. It confirms definitely that this is what is
stopping it working, the situation being that if I want to use my
squeezebox to listen to the hifi I have to turn off my windows firewall.

Does this mean I will have to uninstall my LMS and install it again, for
the firewall to let it through ? And if this is the case, it would mean
it would be without the recent updatebut at the moment I couldn't
care less about that I wish I had never updated it.



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Re: [slim] Tidal - problem with HIFi subscription not playing FLAC

2018-11-15 Thread Paul Webster


Is it too old to have the upgrade
https://www.vortexbox.org/forum/main-forum/789-squeezebox-server-7-9-1-for-vortexbox
or is the problem that update would wipe your local music?



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Re: [slim] Tidal - problem with HIFi subscription not playing FLAC

2018-11-15 Thread jamesrfisher


mherger wrote: 
> > I am using LMS 7.6.1 and have not updated as I am using an old
> Vortexbox
> 
> Well, that won't do it. You'll have to update. FLAC support was only 
> added in 7.7.x
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Thanks, simple answer but more difficult to implement



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