Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast


Apesbrain wrote: 
> Sonos backtracking:
> https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/23/21079269/sonos-ceo-patrick-spence-apology-legacy-products-software-updatesNot
>  really.. Still the same outcome.

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Re: [slim] Spotty errors on desktop / RDP?

2020-01-23 Thread FredFredrickson


mherger wrote: 
> > I don't know what I did, but I tried updating spotty and now it won't
> > show up in active plugins. I've checked the "Enabled" box a couple
> > times, it prompts for restart but won't work after restarting.
> 
> It's always worth checking server.log for any hints...
> 
> Are you using my test repository?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I don't know what happened during the upgrade, but i wiped out LMS and
taskmgr forced end task to spotty.exe to close it. Then I reinstalled
and then installed spotty.  the plugin came in just fine. My guess is a
reboot would have solved my problem... (but who reboots ever!?)

To give more info on the spotty.exe errors, I noticed on reinstall and
reconfiguring the spotty that when i tried setting up with the wrong
password, the minute I clicked save on the wrong password, the similar
spotty error box came up. When i finally submitted the right password it
didn't happen.

This might be specific to my machine since I have .net debugging tools
installed. Maybe not. No idea. Win 10 64



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Re: [slim] Spotty errors on desktop / RDP?

2020-01-23 Thread Michael Herger

I don't know what I did, but I tried updating spotty and now it won't
show up in active plugins. I've checked the "Enabled" box a couple
times, it prompts for restart but won't work after restarting.


It's always worth checking server.log for any hints...

Are you using my test repository?

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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread Apesbrain


Sonos backtracking:
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/23/21079269/sonos-ceo-patrick-spence-apology-legacy-products-software-updates



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Re: [slim] Spotty errors on desktop / RDP?

2020-01-23 Thread FredFredrickson


I don't know what I did, but I tried updating spotty and now it won't
show up in active plugins. I've checked the "Enabled" box a couple
times, it prompts for restart but won't work after restarting.



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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread FatPete


castalla wrote: 
> A gentle hint I made yesterday about 'other ways to use Sonos devices'
> was promptly put down as 'nonsense' by one of these characters.

Let me guess... user "jgatie" ;) Whenever I've tried talking about how I
use LMS to get around Sonos' 65K track limit and limited 24 bit support,
he's usually the one to go on the attack about LMS! You'd think he'd be
happy that his precious Sonos brand is being used by people who'd
otherwise be hit by their limitations. I've stopped visiting the Sonos
forums now due to my frustration whenever jgatie starts being a keyboard
warrior in the vast majority of his posts...



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Re: [slim] Spotty errors on desktop / RDP?

2020-01-23 Thread FredFredrickson


mherger wrote: 
> > Any ideas? Does it have anything to do with redirected audio because
> of
> > RDP?
> 
> I don't think so. Spotty doesn't touch the system's audio output. If you
> 
> sat in front of that computer and logged in locally, wouldn't you see 
> the same messages?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

It's very possible I would get the same error locally. However I do not
use it locally often so I couldn't say. I am attaching the error I get. 
Again, this doesn't seem to interrupt actual performance, the spotify
stream seems to play just fine. But the errors only produce when spotify
is playing on one of the players (a boom in this case).

29137


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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread d6jg


mandryka wrote: 
> Is there a good app for this? I downloaded squeeze control but I just
> can't get it to see my server.

Have you tried Material skin plugin running in app mode?



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread mandryka


Man in a van wrote: 
> yep the link is dead from here also
> 
> https://angrygoatapps.com/sqzctrl_uwp.html
> 
> drop the dev an email or pm him from this forum (there is a thread
> somewhere).
> 
> Edit:
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96757-Annouce-Squeeze-Control-a-squeezebox-remote-app-is-now-available-for-Android=squeeze+control
> 
> i remember the loopback thing, I had to do it for another Windows app (
> can't recall either the app or procedure :o:o:p lol)
> 
> ronnie


Thanks, I've sent him a PM.



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread kidstypike


Paul Webster wrote: 
> There is also Squeezelite-X

Another vote for Squeezelite-X free from the Microsoft store.

Install the LMS "Material skin" plugin, two flavours below.

29134

29135

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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread Man in a van


mandryka wrote: 
> I get this
> 
> 
> 
> But when I go to 
> 
> https://angrygoatapps.com/downloads/WindowsLoopbackManager.exe
> 
> it says "Page not found"


yep the link is dead from here also

https://angrygoatapps.com/sqzctrl_uwp.html

drop the dev an email or pm him from this forum (there is a thread
somewhere).

i remember the loopback thing, I had to do it for another Windows app (
can't recall either the app or procedure :o:o:p lol)

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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread mandryka


Paul Webster wrote: 
> There is also Squeezelite-X

Yes, in fact it won't do what I want. I want to be able to enter some
search text and then search in my music, and my apps -- qobuz, youtube,
spotify etc. Squeezelite 10 is no better than opening a window with the
LMS address. 

And anyway, it keeps crashing on me.



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread Paul Webster


With JiveLite you can go back to the home menu and into Settings and
then Choose Player



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread mandryka


Man in a van wrote: 
> 29131
> 
> I have squeeze ctrl' I'll check it out
> 
> ronnie

Oh yes, I have it. As far as I can see it won't allow me to control
different players, it just makes my PC into a player (which is very
useful, I use it all the time.)



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread mandryka


Man in a van wrote: 
> Squeeze Control working here, click on the three horizontal dots, top
> right hand corner for the menu
> 
> 
> 29132

I get this

29133

But when I go to 

https://angrygoatapps.com/downloads/WindowsLoopbackManager.exe

it says "Page not found"


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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread Paul Webster


There is also Squeezelite-X



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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread Man in a van


Squeeze Control working here, click on the three horizontal dots, top
right hand corner for the menu



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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast


castalla wrote: 
> I could but probably won't!Yup it would probably attract more abuse. 

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Re: [slim] Controlling players on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread Man in a van


29131

I have squeeze ctrl' I'll check it out

ronnie


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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla


slartibartfast wrote: 
> You could post a link to the relevant thread on here. There only seems
> to be one  member over there who thinks it is "nonsense".
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

I could but probably won't!



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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla


chill wrote: 
> Well done for spreading the word in such an environment.  I saw your
> post demonstrating the integration of your Sonos Beam, and as others
> have noted, this could be a good time to pick up 'legacy' Sonos speakers
> for use with LMS.  Can you comment on your experience using Sonos
> devices with upnp/dlna - any drawbacks compared to other devices/plugins
> (e.g. synchronisation)?
> 
> I was also interested in picking up one of the so-called 'bricked'
> legacy devices (i.e. one that's been disabled as part of the 'trade-up'
> programme) - I thought it could make a good basis for a SqueezeAMP
> conversion.

Can't comment on synch. - don't use it.  Otherwise the bridge works
fantastically well.  Haven't had any issues with plugins either.   

The Beam has good sound and Alexa/Google built-in: also airplay2, but
I've never got the airplay2 to work with the airplay plugin.  I have 2
Play 1s - they work fine.

The worst aspect I've found (and Sonos are to blame here) is the
'native' conroller software.  You need a recent Android/iPad smartphone
to set the sonos device up (the Win PC controller has been crippled &
can't be used for setup - there's no web browser access nor a linux
controller).   Moving to a different network or a new router is a
version of 'black magic' - makes LMS almost plug'n'play by comparison.



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[slim] Controling LMS on Windows 10

2020-01-23 Thread mandryka


Is there a good app for this? I downloaded squeeze control but I just
can't get it to see my server.



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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast


castalla wrote: 
> 1 out of thousanda!
> 
> Some others have gone off on a hunt for 'alternatives' - most of which
> seem to be in github 'cold-storage' and appear amazingly complex to
> implement.
> Quite bizarre.
> 
> Bluesound and Bose come up quite frequently as replacement systems.You could 
> post a link to the relevant thread on here. There only seems
to be one  member over there who thinks it is "nonsense".

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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread chill


castalla wrote: 
> 
> The Sonos forum and community is a strange and often unwelcoming
> phenomenon!  There is a substantial number of 'fanboys' who will attack
> anyone who has even constructive criticism to offer.  A gentle hint I
> made yesterday about 'other ways to use Sonos devices' was promptly put
> down as 'nonsense' by one of these characters.
> 

Well done for spreading the word in such an environment.  I saw your
post demonstrating the integration of your Sonos Beam, and as others
have noted, this could be a good time to pick up 'legacy' Sonos speakers
for use with LMS.  Can you comment on your experience using Sonos
devices with upnp/dlna - any drawbacks compared to other devices/plugins
(e.g. synchronisation)?

I was also interested in picking up one of the so-called 'bricked'
legacy devices (i.e. one that's been disabled as part of the 'trade-up'
programme) - I thought it could make a good basis for a SqueezeAMP
conversion.



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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread castalla


slartibartfast wrote: 
> One of the forum users seemed to be interested. 
> 
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

1 out of thousanda!

Some others have gone off on a hunt for 'alternatives' - most of which
seem to be in github 'cold-storage' and appear amazingly complex to
implement.
Quite bizarre.

Bluesound and Bose come up quite frequently as replacement systems.



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Chromecast Audio, Home Mini & Nest Hub, Amazon Echo 2,3 and Show5,
Pioneer WX-SMA1, Roberts S1, O2 Joggler, Cisco Joggler, Avantree Priva
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Re: [slim] Sonos dropping support for older equipment

2020-01-23 Thread slartibartfast


castalla wrote: 
> I've done that many times (including yesterday) ... surprisingly little
> interest.
> 
> The Sonos forum and community is a strange and often unwelcoming
> phenomenon!  There is a substantial number of 'fanboys' who will attack
> anyone who has even constructive criticism to offer.  A gentle hint I
> made yesterday about 'other ways to use Sonos devices' was promptly put
> down as 'nonsense' by one of these characters.
> 
> In the current threads about the 'legacy' issue I am quite amazed by the
> amount of $$$ some people have spent on their systems - quite a number
> are threatening to sell their equipment and move off to other equally
> overpriced and proprietary closed systems as a solution.One of the forum 
> users seemed to be interested. 

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