Re: [slim] More reasons to love DRM
Eric Seaberg;294940 Wrote: up to 8-channels of interleved audio. I don't think FLAC can do that. I've only used FLAC for 1 and 2 channel applications so far, but it claims to handle up to 8 channels. I'll be interested if I pick up the Classic Records Everest 35 mm mastered 3.0 Bert Whyte recordings. Not sure which player is best for multi-channel FLAC. I have used FLAC at sample rates of 44.1, 48, 96 and 192 KHz. The only problem I've encountered so far is that it can't calculate ReplayGain above 48 KHz. My work-around is encoding a down-sampled copy at 48 KHz and copying the ReplayGain tags to the 96 or 192 KHz original. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] can SB do lossless FLAC 5.1?
radish;295215 Wrote: Huh? The majors haven't sold anything analog in years...and if you look at the world of video the copyright holders are forcing a move away from analog (component) to digital (hdmi) in order to add DRM. I think Pat's referring to post-CD digital formats such as SACD and DVD-A. If I understand correctly, Sony mandated that no consumer SACD player would output an unencrypted digital signal. And DVD-A defines a down-sampled unencrypted digital output. All ways the industry attempts to keep the digital information locked up on the disc and give you access to only an analog output. The average consumer seems quite content to live with analog interconnection. Since consumers, by and large, aren't asking for it, and the industry doesn't seem to want it anyway, I think the motivations are AGAINST developing and/or deploying multichannel digital interconnection. HDMI *may* continue to gain ground, not because it's digital, but because it eliminates to rats-nest of analog cables. So far as DRM, the only legitimate thorn in the industry's side is consumer's desires to rip content for their iPods. Apple has so far been somewhat successful at putting their fingers in the DRM dike with the tight integration of the ITMS, so DRM concerns are handled automagically. But market forces, such as Amazon's non-DRM MP3's, Micrsoft turning off the plays for sure authorization servers, and the number of people who have non-Apple MP3 players are starting to breach the industry's DRM dike. However, I'll be surprised if this has any effect on multichannel and/or HiRes DRM anytime soon... -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43025 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] More reasons to love DRM
The problem with Apple iTunes: the latest version does not install on W2000. It's likely I'll never use a version past W2000; I've been moving to Ubuntu linux! In reality, Micro$oft DEPENDS on the fact that they can use incompatibility to FORCE you to upgrade, so they are definitely full of it when they do something like stop supporting DRM servers and tell you that you have to authorize a computer forever. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46690 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] can SB do lossless FLAC 5.1?
atrocity;294724 Wrote: Even if the hardware could deal with the signal, there's no way to output it: S/PDIF lacks the necessary bandwidth. True, the S/PDIF standard does not define 5.1, however Alesis is able to pack 8 channels (24 bit X 48 Khz) of uncompressed audio onto Toslink (they call it lightpipe). A consumer standard IS possible, but given the mood of the industry, not very probable in the near future. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADAT_Lightpipe -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43025 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New York Times Article on Digital Music
jfalk;271558 Wrote: Not to say that this guys experience is common, he seems to have rejected the Slim solution only because commercial services to convert CDs are too expensive. This problem will eventually work itself out. In the future, CD will not be the delivery vehicle. IMHO the iTunes music store is one reason the iPod is popular, you can buy the music ready to go, no ripping required. I just hope that FLAC (or some lossless) becomes popular before CDs go extinct. There are several problems which must be worked out before music-on-the-hard-drive, be it Slimserver, Itunes/iPod or another solution is ready for prime time. Besides ditribution, there's tagging. The wide variations in online tag databases with popular music, not to mention that the tagging schemes are do not really handle classical all that well, and with FLAC only the most basic tags have been de-facto standardized, these are other problems which need to be dealt with. And there's the problem of what to do with gapless playback. And, while this is mainly a problem for audiophiles, how to handle various resolutions of source material on various playback devices. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43724 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why Squeezebox sucks...
Seems to me that an undo feature to get back playlists accidentally wiped out would satisfy both groups. Those who want to use it can. Those who don't want to use it can kick themselves for accidentally clearing their playlist. And it won't get it anyone's way... -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43291 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] softsqueeze on ubuntu
I haven't had much luck running softsqueeze on my new linux system... Firefox doesn't seem to know what to do with a JNLP file, nor does it let a user add to it's list of file types. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MP3 stream error syncing to stream
bobharp;262458 Wrote: Ubuntu/Debian users. Make sure you have lame installed. That was it! Apparently, the Debian SqueezeCenter apt-get is missing the lame dependancy. I did an apt-get install lame and it's streaming OK now. It took a while to verify that it was working end-to-end; there was over 2 minutes of buffering somewhere in the stream (probably Windows Media Player) so WMP was playing silence for a long time after SC said it was actually streaming the first track. Right now WMP Network Buffering is set to Use default; maybe I should set it manually when using SC on a local connection. Not a problem now I know it working, though. With all that got loaded automatically with SqueezeCenter, it never occurred to me to check if something was missing. Thanks for the tip! -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] MP3 stream error syncing to stream
I get this error from Winamp (on my Windows machine) when I try to connect to SqueezeCenter on my new linux box. Running SqueezeCenter Version: 7.0 - 16678 - Debian - EN - iso-8859-1 on Ubuntu Gusty... Is this a known bug with the beta SqueezeCenter? -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MP3 stream error syncing to stream
Thanks for the quick response... -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing the Squeezebox Duet
mvalera;254681 Wrote: Some really really big pics for those who want them (The LCD is simulated): http://www.slimdevices.com/images/jive/jive_beauty_large.jpg Good choice of music! -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41813 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Legality question... boo... hiss......
JimC;212519 Wrote: It's not the RIAA, it's Congress, and no one cares about the CD. The CD merely represents the license you have to listen to the music you purchased on that medium. When you purchase music online, with or without DRM, the file represents the license granted to you by the copyright holder. OK, it's Congress at the behest of the RIAA. The RIAA, for the most part, claims to represent the copyright holder's interests before Congress. To be more explicit about the token that represents one's license to use the copyrighted work, the stamped CD, LP or pre-recorded tape is that token. In the case of DRM downloads, a virtual token is generated to represent the listener's playback device(s) and is stored in the DRM provider's database. The file itself is not the token, just as a burned copy of the CD or a home-recorded cassette is not the token, since they are easily duplicated by the listener. With non-DRM downloads there is no token; there is only the receipt the seller and buyer keep of the purchase. If you resell a non-DRM download, unlike with a used CD or a book, there is no token that can pass to the buyer (at least that I'm aware of) to indicate that he has assumed the license. You're right that we have always been on the honor system to erase all copies when we sold the token. But, with non-DRM downloads we're REALLY on the honor system, because so far as I can see, there's no way for the copyright holders to even know who, other than the original purchaser, owns the token that represents the license. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Legality question... boo... hiss......
JimC;212637 Wrote: Actually, the tracks sold on the Apple iTunes Music Store have at the username and e-mail address of the purchaser embedded in them (this is for -both- DRM and non-DRM tracks). You can see part of the story here: http://tinyurl.com/yty75n The EFF speculates that additional copies of that information, or other unique identifiers, may also have been embedded in the file. I've yet to find confirmation that has been done, but it is technically feasible to do that. Apparently, Apple is using the trust, but verify version of the honor system. Being a parent of three children, I'm rather familiar with that system. -= Jim Yes, I know that. Unfortunately only one of my 100 or so iTunes tracks is upgradable, so far. :( However, as I was trying to point out, the embedded information is not a token that can be passed on as is a physical CD, or even as a virtual token when one deauthorizes/reauthorizes computers to the DRM provider. The embedded information can only identify the initial purchaser, not the current owner of the license. Maybe part of the downloading model is that, unlike with CDs, one is not ever allowed to resell his downloads; that once downloaded, they are his in perpetuity. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Legality question... boo... hiss......
Apparently the RIAA, at least as demonstrated by their actions, feels that one has to have the CD in their possesion to be allowed to play the sounds from that CD. XM Satellite Radio has a huge hard disk music library and they made an explicit agreement with the RIAA to broadcast the music over their satellites. Interestingly enough, the RIAA agreement requires XM to store all the physical CDs, even though XM pays the RIAA when they air them, anyway. (I don't remember normal radio stations being under that restriction from my days in radio.) I guess the RIAA wants to be able to point to XM as an example that they expect us to retain all of our CDs. It gets interesting when one gets to the area of legal downloads, especially DRM-free. One pays for the download and ends up with a file on their hard drive, but no physical token like the CD. I guess more progressive recording types realize that, for most intents, we're on the honor system anyway these days. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36487 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
