Re: [slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-04-11 Thread bloemert

My CD-player had no digital output, but my recently bought DVD-recorder
(Sony RDR-HX750) has a digital coax output and can also play audio
CD's.
I burned my test track to an audio CD and played it on the
DVD_recorder.
The result was the same click-problem in combination with the blinking
NOLOCK.
I also tried original bought CD's and they gave the same problem.
So the Primare processor must be the cause of the click-problem.

There is unfortunately no option to force the input to PCM or
Stereo mode and disabling auto-detection of surround sound formats.
See
http://www.sumikoaudio.net/primare/manuals/spa21_manual.pdf


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Re: [slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-04-03 Thread bloemert

I use a Profigold s/pdif cable.
Yesterday I have bought a profigold toslink cable (35 EUR) and the
problems are the same with this cable.
According to Sean’s suggestion I have modified a track via “CoolEdit”
and changed some parts for 10 or 20 seconds “silence”.  Some other
parts I have changed the amplitude to 0%. Visually the results for
“silence” and “0% amplitude” are the same in “CoolEdit”
Via the squeezebox in digital mode during the “silence” periods the
input mode switches to blinking NOLOCK and gives the click at the first
time NOLOCK appears. It stays blinking during the silence period and
changes back to PCM (without a click) at the end of the silence period
and the music is coming back again.
The 0% amplitude parts gave no problems (no click), only the expected
silence for these parts.


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Re: [slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-04-02 Thread bloemert

I have investigated via Cool-edit the wave-form of the flac's and the
flac's seem perfect.

Further on I discovered that
- live-albums gave no problem
- if track x ends quiet and track x+1 starts immediately with
music/singing a hick-up takes place (repeat of the first second music
with a small pauze inbetween). 
- The problem disappeared when I used the analogue output of the
squeezebox or duet-receiver. (I have both a squeezebox and a duet) 

I have a Primare SPA-21 processor and I use the DAC of this processor
via the digital input of the squeezebox/duet.
In the main-menu of the SPA-21 a strange effect takes place during the
click.
Normally: 
Input-mode = PCM
surround-mode = PARTY

but during the click or hick-up:
Input-mode = NOLOCK (short blinking)
surround-mode = AUTO (short blinking)

After a second these settings change immediately again to their
original settings PCM and PARTY.

If I change PARTY via the input-settings in 2-channel the problem still
exists.

It seems that the communication between the digital output of the
squeezebox and the PRIMARE DAC is not correct.


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Re: [slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-04-02 Thread bloemert

I have tried the 2 digital SPDIF inputs on the PRIMARE processor.
Their are also 2 digital optical TOSLink inputs, but I haven't tried
these because I do not have such a cable.
But do you expect that connecting to the TOSLink solves the problem ?
If so, then I will immediately buy such a cable.


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Re: [slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-04-01 Thread bloemert

I run slimserver on windows-XP.
I have changed the sound to none following the suggested advice, but
the problem still exist.

I found something related to my problem in:
http://forum.inguzaudio.com/index.php?showtopic=3pid=138st=20#entry138

It stated that:
The loud click at the start of the song is due to -wavo sending the
WAV file header (a hundred bytes or so) and Squeezebox interpreting
that as playable data... without -wavo, ony the raw data is sent.
Unfortunately with only sending the raw data, Squeezebox doesn't have
any way to tell the bit-depth, and assumes it's 16 even if you have
InguzDSP output 24-bit data... hence the white-noise experience...

But I have tried different settings in the convert.conf file, but
without success.

So if someone has another suggestion, it would be greatfull
And who knows what are the possible settings and meanings of these
settings in convert.conf


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[slim] How to avoid the 'click' when a track starts

2008-03-31 Thread bloemert

I have a classic squeezebox and a duet.
I only play flac music files.
A new track starts always with a short click and then after a split of
a second the track starts. The problem exists on both squeezeboxes.
After updating Squeezecenter 7 to version 7.0.1 the problem still
exists.

Does someone know how to solve this problem ?


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