Re: [slim] So will there be any new products with Digital Outs.....
agillis wrote: VortexBox also still has digital outputs and 24/192! Does it have the standard SB features, such as gapless, replay-gain, sync and remote SB control ? Ideally, you would want a SqueezePlay port for the VortexBox to make sure everything is properly supported. Bonus points if you can use the VortexBox itself as a controller. Jean jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96205 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Advice on where to go next
bigsur78 wrote: I'm very proud of the system (and sound) that I've been able to achieve on a pretty tight budget. You should ! bigsur78 wrote: Thing is, I've now realized that there's always something better to strive for, isn't there. The grass is always greener on the other side, isn't it ? Please don't fall into that trap, it's an addiction. bigsur78 wrote: So hoping for a little advice on my next upgrade, keeping in mind that any purchases over $500 are pretty much impossible given my current financial situation. It seems that with audio, price increase exponentially for diminishing returns. As you are happy with your current system, just enjoy it and forget about this need to always upgrade. Especially if money is tight, this usually means that there are other essentials where you could use that money. Now, this is where I would spend some of that money : 1) A backup solution. You don't want those track to disappear and all the hard work that went into creating your collection to be reduce to nothing. 2) A battery for your Radio. Your radio does not want to be tethered, it wants to go in the garden when you play with the kids and in the garage when you are repairing stuff what the kids broke. 3) A few CDs you have been lusting after for a long time. It's about the music. 4) A SB Radio for the kids. They want to listen to music in the bedroom. Have fun... Jean I figure I have a few options, and am wondering what would give me the biggest boost in sound (on the living room system) 1. I could upgrade to a Squeezebox Touch. 2. I could keep the SB3 and add a cheap DAC, perhaps a used Cambridge Audio DAC magic 3. I could upgrade my amp (something used in the sub-500 range... not sure what I'd be looking for.) I am not throwing parties so don't need things to go too loud... really I'm looking for optimum detail/soundstage/etc. Any ideas on where to go next? Cheers (and sorry for the long post!) b jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can a SB3 play streamed ogg-flac ?
I believe it's coming, but not on SB3 : http://svn.slimdevices.com/repos/slim/7.8/trunk/server/Changelog7.html Jean jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time is off
nicolas75;670569 Wrote: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17164 The bug was supposed to be fixed, but it was reopened. My Touch loose several minutes a week with latest software when running TinySBS. A workaround is to temporarily connect to mysqueezebox.com to fix the clock. An alternative workaround is to setup NTP on the touch : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87588highlight=ntp I did that when I was on TinySB 7.5.4. Since upgrading to 7.7.0, I did not put NTP, because I did not notice enough drift yet (my drift is not that bad). I'll try to check if my NTP instructions works with TinySB 7.7.0 this week end, as well as how much drift I see. I looked at the bug 17164, and I was puzzled that the description of the bugfix seemed to relate to only a small part of the issue, but I did not dig deeper. In other words, it make sense to me that the bug is not fixed in 7.7.0. Regards, Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91673 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Macro to resize artwork images
staresy;658105 Wrote: Easy enough but a bit labourious. Has anyone got a macro or exe that I can run, point to the jpeg to be processed and it will do all the work for me? A useful tool if it exists. Just a thought. DrS Personally, I alway save it in the folder at max resolution, and I have a script that makes a smaller copy for SBS (TinySB in my case) in the same directory. Max resolution is useful because you may change your mind later on, and screens seems to always get bigger. The trick is that SBS reads file in a certain order, so you create the small file as a file SBS would read before the big file. More in here, including PHP script : http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82070 Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90401 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
wt0;652186 Wrote: However, I'll still fix any bugs that may crop up. Thanks for fixing the bug I found, now it's working properly with TinySBS 7.6.1. Regards, Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NEW SB hardware?
Mnyb;636461 Wrote: I'm unsure if any upgraded Touch could be big enough to run the server, this could be wasted resources to have so much cpu in each player... The Touch can not do 192 kHz because of the CPU, the rest of the HW could do it, to support 192 kHz you probably would need twice the amount of CPU of the current Touch. 192 kHz is essential for bragging rights. From my experience, what is sucking CPU and memory is usually not the server functions, but the user interface. I've put a web server, PHP and a database on the first gen Gumstix, which is slower than the current Touch. On the other hand, if you want smoother VU meters and frequency analysers, you will want more CPU and memory. Same for smooth coverflow. Moore's law always work in your favor. Every 18 months, you get double the CPU and memory for the same price. What goes today in your cell phone will trickle to your Touch. Mnyb;636461 Wrote: better a logitech branded base station who is an atom based server. From what I can see, normal people don't buy infrastructure. Geeks have a long term plan and invest in infrastructure, because they see the value. Normal people want instant gratification of their emotional purchase. This is why everybody goes with a Cloud approach, it's far easier to sell infrastructure as a service. In other words, a device that does nothing by itself is to me a non starter, unless you bundle it as a useful package. bluegaspode;636471 Wrote: Guess they'd need to implement some new special features (hopefully that doesn't cost much in development, but can be printed in large letters on the package). 1) Bigger screen. Those tablet/PMP screens are reaching large volume, making them more affordable. 7in should be the new sweet spot. 2) 192 kHz support. It's bigger, it must be better. The only way to put it on the cover of Stereophile and TAS. 3) USB DAC support, two USB ports. Same as above. 4) Offer web server interface when running TinySB. Access it with any browser, any device, no app required (unless you care about usability). 5) Facebook integration (I would prefer Skype integration, but that would be too difficult) I believe all those are not difficult and would improve the appeal. But I also believe the Touch2 would not come soon, the Touch is not that old. Regards, Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88170 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
A mix of logical extrapolations and wishes. Boom2 : Basically a Radio with two speakers. Same screen as Radio if they want to keep cost down, or maybe the Touch touch screen if they want market differentiation (most likely not). Make sure audio quality is there to differentiate from the Radio. Classic2 : Basically a Radio without the speaker nor the battery but with both RCA and digital output, in a small package. It still has the buttons and the screen of the Radio so can be used and configured standalone (no controller needed - addresses shortcomings of Receiver). It maxes at 44.1/24 and has a normal quality DAC, to differentiate it from the Touch. With the removal/addition, and because it uses the same volume parts as the Radio, its price should be similar to the price of the Radio, and consequently similar to the price of the Receiver. It replaces both the Receiver and the Classic, and extend in the low end of the market and compete with upcoming products in that space. Touch2 : twice the CPU, twice the memory, twice the audio spec (192 MHz), twice the screen size, twice the USB connectors (for USB audio out). TinySB with web-interface and plug-ins. Move further upmarket. Controller2 : get an unbranded OEM phone from HTC, put Logitech custom firmware on it. That would be probably the most efficient way to move forward with the controller, as dedicated hardware will end up either too expensive or underpowered, and also not as power efficient (volume is key). The loss of the scroll wheel and buttons is the big challenge UI wise, but the Touch shows they may be able to pull it. Transporter2 : License SqueezePlay platform and protocol to one or two established super-high-end audio vendor competing with Linn and Olive. Brand name and funny marketing is the ticket at the high end, and Logitech won't do it. And of course, we should hope for something more revolutionary, but I'm too realistic for that... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Time for a speculation thread...
JJZolx;614564 Wrote: My bet is none. We've reached the end of the line. Do you have facts to back that up ? Logitech SqueezeBox are selling well : http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/322215011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_1_3_last http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172633/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_2_3_last http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/172681/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_3_3_last Those rankings have been fairly consistents over the last months. The most amazing to me is the portable radio and boombox category, where the Radio is competing effectively against $30 radios ! Second, if Logitech was not making money, and its products were not successful, the competition would not try to emulate them : http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/30/grace-digital-adds-color-displays-on-new-solo-touch-bravado-x/ Facts are : First, according to one of the largest US retailer, Logitech products are selling well. Not as much as iPod, obviously, but I don't think it's possible. Second, the SqueezeBox line is seen as sufficiently successful and generating enough profit that competitors are jumping in, not the sign of a dying market. It's true that Logitech could decide to stop here, but the signs are that Logitech is successful with the SqueezeBox line and will continue to try to serve that market and sell more boxes. And, because of competition raising the bar, this will mean new products. Now, the communication and actions of the company may not be that clear, but all big companies are like that. Logitech may make blunder short term, but long term they can not ignore what the market is telling them. Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hail Mary time for Logitech with its Google TV?
toby10;593770 Wrote: Comparison and review of AppleTV vs Logitech Revue http://windowssecrets.com/2010/12/09/02-Set-top-boxes-match-up-Apple-TV-vs.-Google-TV/#story1 Video Killed the Radio Star I hope Logitech will remember that the Radio, Boom and Touch are quite high in sales ranking on amazon.com. Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82366 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now Playing screen for classical music
Co1;577274 Wrote: To use the Now Playing screen with classical music, the COMPOSER, CONDUCTOR, and BAND tags are used. The various ARTIST tags should be used for soloists. The ALBUM tag is used to show the Work, but can also be used for a collection of short pieces. Then the piece, and movement should be tagged in the TITLE tag. I'm using exclusively FLAC file and I'm therefore using the FLAC standard to tag my classical music, i.e. ARTIST for Beethoven and PERFORMER for Karajan. How difficult would it be to modify your screen to support that ? By the way, the FLAC tagging standard : http://xiph.org/vorbis/doc/v-comment.html http://flac.sourceforge.net/faq.html#general__tagging Regards, Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82062 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] OT: extending wifi via WDS vs. simple access point
aubuti;577716 Wrote: I'm invoking the kitchen sink subtitle of this forum to ask a question about networking that is only tangentially about SBs, because I know a lot of the folks here will know the answers. There is no right answer, it's only about options ;-) aubuti;577716 Wrote: Option 1 is to replace it with another router that can run Tomato or DD-WRT, and use Wireless Distribution System to use the second router as an AP, though I'm not clear yet whether it would be bridging or repeating. Given that I have the ethernet in place to wire the two together, I'm not sure of the advantages of WDS to me in this setting, since I understand that for wifi devices WDS effectively halves the bandwidth. I don't see any point in using WDS if you already went through the trouble of laying out an Ethernet cable. WDS is more complicated, more brittle and lower performance, and you may potentially run into compatibility issues. aubuti;577716 Wrote: Option 2 is basically to replicate the setup I have now, using the second router as a simple access point. In fact, for this option I could buy an AP, except they usually cost more and are useless as backup routers in case my router suddenly dies. If you find something compatible with OpenWRT/DD-WRT/Tomato, any router can be configured as an Access Point trivially. The difference between an router and an access point is only in the software running on top of it. I have not tried that, but if you configure your two router with the same ESSID on different channel, your clients should be able to roam between the two. It used to work with 802.11b and WEP, but WPA may get in the way. aubuti;577716 Wrote: For either option, I would seriously look at getting an N-capable router so that the current -- and now doubt future -- N devices can take advantage of it. It appears that there is at least one N-capable router out there (WRT160NL) that supports DD-WRT, so Option 1 would still be a possibility. Any advice? Thanks. If I were to buy a device, I would pick one of the two options. I'm not overall impressed by the quality of the hardware out there, no point in paying 802.11n money to get 802.11g performance and range. First option is another WRT54GL, because it's cheap and very well supported by all the alternate firmware, and I could swap it trivially with all my other WRT54GL. Second option is a NETGEAR WNDR3700, because it's one of the few 802.11n routers to get very good review, because it support 5GHz, has good range, and because it's supported by OpenWRT. http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30925-start-your-buying-netgear-wndr3700-reviewed http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/wndr3700 At then end, it really depend on *your* usage patterns. If your usage is mostly toward the Internet, your broadband provider (DSL, Cable...) is likely the bottleneck so no point in getting beyond 802.11g. If you have lot's or internal traffic (file sharing, backup...), then install CAT6 Ethernet cable or get the best 802.11n router you can get. Personally, I'm a cheap guy and I salvaged another WRT54GS in the trash. But I promised myself to install CAT6 one day. Have fun... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82108 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Touch - exclusive to Logitech website?
To continue on the theme it does not make sense whatsoever. The Touch is still listed on logitech.com (USA) as Exclusive for $299. And it is now available on featured Amazon affiliates (USA) for $329 or more, and various other affiliates as low as $259. In other words, don't take all of this too seriously... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81228 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Powered bookshelf speaker for bookshelf ?
Thanks all for your quick answer, it definitely helps ! SuperQ;479347 Wrote: As long as you keep some air gap behind the A5 speakers you shouldn't have to worry about the bass. That's the issue, the speaker will be squeezed between the books, pushed to the back of the shelf cabinet, so not much of an air gap. NewBuyer;479404 Wrote: If you can, consider the 'NHT M-00 powered monitors' (http://store.nhthifi.com/M-00-Powered-Mini-monitor?sc=12category=1213). These are an acoustic-suspension design, so no worries placing on a bookshelf. You will probably require an attenuator. That is probably a nice option, however the attenuator and the connector types would make things more complex than I like. Actually, seeing those XLR and jack reminded me time at the university... NewBuyer;479404 Wrote: If you want more bass and thus also add a subwoofer, you will have a very nice sounding full-range system. I don't really want to add a subwoofer, but I may have to. urbanshepherd;479434 Wrote: Due to some reshuffling in the living room, I currently have my A5's at different heights, and one on a table and one in a bookshelf, very snuggly at the side. So, does it sound different to when they'd been painstakingly positioned to give the best acoustics to the room? Yes. Does it sound different to the wife or anyone else that comes to the house? No. I think the A5's are fantastic speakers, and am very happy with their sound to this day. Definitel one of my better purchases (along with the Classic of course!). This is very good to hear. Yeah, I bet my wife and kids would not know better. At certain stage in life, you have to be practical and can't really go for the optimal solution. Actually, priority number one is to protect investment from the kids. I started ripping my CDs when my older kid managed to stuff two CDs together in the CD player and badly scratch another one. Also gone are all the remote controls, which is why I'm waiting for the Touch. bhaagensen;479575 Wrote: I think that usually it is actually the opposite. You'll get more, albeit of lesser quality, bass by placing rear-vented speakers closer to the wall. My belief is that with the speaker stuck in the cabinet and squeezed between books, with virtually no space behind, you will have no bass extension at all. bhaagensen;479575 Wrote: Nonetheless another option, if you insist on the AE route, could be the A2's (which afaik are not rear-vented) and the accompanying sub. I would prefer to avoid a sub if I can, as I would need to find a place to put it, out of reach of my kids... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Powered bookshelf speaker for bookshelf ?
Hi, I'm looking forward to buy a SqueezeBox. I don't want to keep my old hi-fi around, as I want to keep things simple, and it's not that special anyway. So I'm looking in into powered bookshelf speakers. The gotcha is that my current speaker are in a bookshelf cabinet, with books on the side and top, and this is the obvious place to put the new speakers. With kids running around, I can't really consider other options. I searched the forum, and it seems that one of the favorite is the AudioEngine 5. It's in the price range I was considering. The dimension are also similar to my old speakers. What worries me is that the bass-reflex is at the back (my current speaker has it in front). My feeling is that I would be loosing all the bass extension of the bass-reflex, and that may also impact the response of the bass woofer. First question : are my worry about the AudioEngine 5 bass-reflex overblown ? Has anybody tested the AudioEngine 5 against a wall or in a shelf ? Second question : is there alternative speakers in the USA, similar in price/size/feature as the AudioEngine 5 but more compatible with bookshelf use ? Thanks in advance... Jean -- jean2 jean2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33946 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70600 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
